The Stoic | Deschutes Brewery

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States
deschutesbrewery.com

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

Added by msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

BEER STATS
Ratings:
800
Reviews:
271
Avg:
3.81
pDev:
13.91%
 
 
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83
Gots:
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Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

good beer, but not your father’s quad. Rather mid yellow with big lasting head, lace. Sweet, and some tartness from the pomegranate. Overall I get more berry than pomegranate.Complex, sweet dominates but it is not cloying. Smooth mouthfeel and good drinkability. Thanks Presario.

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Photo of Texasfan549
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.92/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Best by 8/4/12.

Pours a clear golden color with a 1 inch puffy white head that settles to a thin cap. Thin broken rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark fruits, banana, caramel, and malt. Taste is of dark fruits and banana, malt, some caramel, yeast, alcohol, and a tart flavor. I am not really getting any pomegranate or barrel aged flavors in the smell or taste. This beer has a higher level of carbonation with a crisp and prickly mouthfeel. There is an alcohol burn in the back of the throat with each sip. Overall, this is a good beer from Deschutes but not as good as I was expecting based on their other barrel aged offerings.

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

the stoic is one heck of an interesting beer. pours murky light amber color with a slight pink tint and an effervescent white head. looks much lighter than most quads ive had, coming in almost honey colored rather than that deep caramel color im accustomed to in these. it smells tart and sour, yeasty, and lots of fresh fruit. the flavor is much more tempered by the wood aging, and the rye flavors come through very nicely and compliment the tartness of the pomegranates. never really tasted anything quite like this, its oaky, almost sour, and even flowery in the yeast. feel is very excited carbonation and a lighter to medium body. alcohol flavor and feel is entirely absent. amazing. this would be quite drinkable except for the abv strength. overall another exceptional beer from deschutes. theyve got to be one of the finest operations in the country.

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4/5  rDev +5%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of Knapp85
3.82/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a light brown color with a nice looking white head on top. The retention is pretty good as well as the lacing. The smell of the beer gives off some quad like aromas, there is some fruity and bready aromas. The barrel aging aromas are prominent. The taste of the beer has a slight tartness to it. The flavors of dark fruits come out with some oak elements in there also. The mouthfeel had a solid amount to carbonation, the body is a little on the thin side. Overall it's a decent quad. The color is a little on the light side and is need a little more body.

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4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of nmann08
3/5  rDev -21.3%

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.51/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

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2.25/5  rDev -40.9%

Photo of metter98
4.1/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of BEERchitect
3.29/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

As the perversion of this recipe continues to sway in and out of the beer drinker's psyche, the latest version of The Stoic lands in the Deschutes brewer's lap with a thump of sweetness and a moderate fruit/spice blend.

Lighter than expected, the honey amber and peachy orange hues casts a short and creamy head to entice the nose with candied sweetness, apricot, nectarine, orange and date, with a tinge of clove. And once the beer layers upon the tongue, its simple sweetness is realized; slight of caramel, honey and maple.

Proceeding upon the middle palate, the full sweetness is realized in its candied, cola and toasty grain form. As elements of grilled fruitcake arise, its spicy rebuttal rises to meet the sweetness and fruitiness with white pepper, clove and vanilla all it's own.

Yielding to the beer's sweeter and more succulent side, a sweet tooth must be had to find great favor as the full bodied taste and long sweetness is labored on the finish. Warming but never hot, the beer trends port-like and hinting of mead and cola while an aftertaste of dried fruit and honey biscuit remain.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle - another American baby whale that has decided to come sniffing around up north.

This beer pours a slightly hazy, medium copper amber colour, with two fingers of puffy, loosely foamy, and certainly bubbly ecru head, which leaves some low-lying volcanic island profile lace around the glass as it swiftly abates.

It smells of strongly alcoholic phenols straight off, musty caramel malt, wan, yet still biscuity toffee, some wayward son yeast, a weak under your parents' basement stairs otherness, apple pie, poached pears, brown sugar, muddled baking spices, and some tame earthy, weedy, and perfumed floral hop bitters. The taste is rather sweet 'n gritty caramel/toffee malt, a heady sauced orchard fruitiness (apple, cherry, white plum, and bruised pear), well-behaved yeast, a bit of barrel oakiness (more or less indistinct between the wine and whiskey notes), lame spice, and a still understated by design earthy, leafy, and perfumed hoppiness.

The bubbles are pretty listless in their plainly quotidian frothiness, the body an average middleweight, and more or less smooth, only the hovering booziness proving any sort of immediate threat. It finishes sweet, but in a barely moderated sense - the malt and fruit characters letting themselves go just a wee bit too much.

Overall, this seems like the typical New World craft brewery way of fucking with traditional styles - were Quads not fruity or boozy enough in the first place, that they needed a double dose of barrel treatment as well? Not to mention the large serving size, the rest of which I will have to save for later (so not a bad deal, eh, future me?). In the end, not bad, but not worthy of the rather dear shelf tag, unfortunately.

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Photo of kojevergas
4.06/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a 25 cl Leffe goblet at The Daily Pint in Santa Monica, California. Reviewed from notes. I'd had this before from the bottle and knew it was good already.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of nice cream, great thickness, and good retention for the style. Colour is a semitransparent copper. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Bretts, clean fresh malts, some funkiness, and bright esters. A moderate strength aroma. Very pleasant. Fresh and clean.

T: The malts are layered and brilliant. Very fresh with wonderful orange citrus esters. Complex and subtle, but I preferred it out of the bottle when it was yeasty and more complex. A touch cidery. A bit appley. Very well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, crisp, and wet. Not too thick/thin. Smack-your-lips lovely. Delicately light on the palate. Quite pleasant.

Dr: Incredibly drinkable. This was better out of the bottle with the yeast. I'd have it again, preferably bottle-aged. A lovely quad from Deschutes. Hides its ABV insanely well. Give her a go, lads.

B+

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Review saved from the duplicate serving type review purge and copied below. This was my original review of the beer from the bottle on 12/11/2011. I've averaged the two reviews to yield the score I gave it.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with waxed-over pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are extremely high; I love deschutes and quads. This is a dream come true. Let's see if it stacks up.

A: Pours a half finger head of slight cream, pretty thin, and of okay retention when you factor in the high ABV. Colour is a nontransparent textbook copper. Appealing.

Sm: Wonderful. Impressive yeasty aroma with strong notes of candied sugar, pomegranate fruit tones, light oak, and whiskey. Really a lovely balanced aroma. Quite pleasant and inviting. Some sourness/bacteria is also of note, and maybe some light hints of white wine. It certainly smells complex. I hope it tastes as good as it smells. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Fruity tones - pomegranate, maybe light green apple, lovely tinges of sourness, full expressive yeast, a light oak tone, and a full malt foundation. The malt is wonderfully subtle, sort of the polar opposite of how it's used in crappy Spanish macro lagers (see San Miguel). The candied sugar is lovely and gives it a tingly sensation. Very complex yet wonderfully balanced, with a rare subtlety of flavour. Extremely well built. No note really dominates; they all layer and congeal to comprise an all around wonderful taste. No alcohol is detectable.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with just enough thickness to support the complex flavours and ABV without being overbearing. The tingly sensation produced by the candied sugar lends it the needed coarseness to coax out the flavours without lessening drinkability. Bravo.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the ABV, and very drinkable in general. I wouldn't call this a sipper like many Russian Imperial Stouts; it certainly isn't sessionable but it's of fantastic quality, quite enjoyable to drink, and allows swigs rather than sips. If I had to murder my grandmother to try this on-tap, I'd have to pause to think about it - and then I'd remember that bottle conditioning suits quads better - and I'd stop myself. Another home-run from Deschutes. It's a shame it isn't more widely available. I imagine it ages wonderfully. It would pair well with food that doesn't have too strong a flavour or temperature - perhaps a sandwich or salad. I'd like to see Deschutes brew a quad more akin to Westvleteren 12, using those wonderful dark fruit notes. A comparative analysis between the two is by no means fair, but nevertheless I'd like to see Deschutes attempt something similar. I think that's testament to the quality of their brews. I look forward to trying more beers from Deschutes; they seem to consistently satisfy me.

4.2

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Photo of brentk56
3.82/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color; the modest head fails the Belgian test and fades away rather quickly, as well; it does manage to leave a few dots and dashes behind

Smell: Bubblegum phenols on top, but there is much more depth underneath, including a vinous fruity character and pomegranate esters

Taste: A fruit salad of flavor, up front, with apple, pear and white wine grapes establishing dominance; the pomegranate arriving with the alcohol at mid-palate, followed by spicy yeast and more vinous elements, after the swallow; oaky dryness, in the after-taste

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation and some warmth in the gullet

Overall: Not really a quad; to my palate, it is more like a BSPA; a lot went into this beer but the sum is less than the parts

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of zeff80
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with a one-finger, white head of bubbly foam. It some sudsy rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of pomegranate and other fruits. Some wood-like aromas and caramel.

T - Nice pomegranate flavor with some yeasty/spiciness. Good caramel sweetness with a touch of oak to add some needed bitterness.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - By no means is this a traditional Quadrupel, but it still a tasty beer and worth a try.

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Photo of largadeer
2.12/5  rDev -44.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Beddachedda shared this one. Thanks, Evan.

Appearance: The Stoic pours a clear golden color, not exactly quad-like but attractive nonetheless. The head is tall and lasting.

Aroma: The nose is overwhelmingly sweet, showcasing bubblegum and raw sugar, some tart fruitiness from the pomegranate I suppose, but really just overwhelming sweetness and yeast. Clove, breadiness, a bit vinous - plenty of depth but none of it is appealing.

Palate: Sweet, vinous, fruity. Cloying but also slightly tart. Dark fruit and red wine, clove, bready malt. Becomes more tannic and dry in the finish. Pretty mediocre and not particularly drinkable, I dumped my glass after a few ounces. Deschutes isn't doing so well with these reserve series beers this year.

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Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of superspak
4.2/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into chalice, best before 5/8/2016. Pours slightly hazy/cloudy deep orange/copper color with a small dense off white head with solid retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light spotty lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of big raisin, plum, fig, apricot, pear, apple, cherry, red grape, light banana, clove, pepper, vanilla, oak, light whiskey, honey, caramel, light toffee, and yeast/oak earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast, oak barrel, and moderate candi sugar malt notes; with great strength. Taste of big raisin, plum, fig, apricot, pear, apple, cherry, red grape, light banana, clove, pepper, vanilla, oak, light whiskey, honey, caramel, light toffee, and yeast/oak earthiness. Fair amount of yeast/oak spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, fig, apricot, pear, apple, cherry, red grape, clove, pepper, oak, honey, caramel, and yeast/oak earthiness on the finish for a while. Fantastic complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast, oak barrel, and moderate candi sugar malt flavors; with a great malt/oak/yeast spiciness balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very smooth and lightly slick/sticky mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light-moderate warmth lingering after the finish. Overall this is an awesome partial barrel aged pale quadrupel style. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast. oak barrel, and moderate candi sugar malt flavors; and vary smooth to sip on for the big ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Photo of mothman
3.2/5  rDev -16%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a white head. Color is a bright golden orange.

Aroma: A lot of fruits. Oranges and pomegranate. French oak with rye spice. Wine flavors. Belgian yeast, bananas, and cloves.

Taste: Mimics the nose, but it is very yeasty and bready. Reminds me of an amped up wheat beer.

Mouthfeel: Dry and spiced. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Ends really dry.

Overall, a unique beer. Not a quad in my book. No clue as to what this really is, style-wise. But, I kind of like it. Somewhat drinkable.

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
3.81 out of 5 based on 800 ratings.
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