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The StoicThe Stoic

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Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

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Photo of yesterdayfaraway
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Light Amber color, white head fades fast. Smells sweet Belgian yeast. The taste is defenately Belgian, it's sweet. It's very thin but the flavors do coat my mouth well.

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Photo of Franziskaner
4.07/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Copper color with a haziness from the barrel aging. There's a fingernail of off white surrounding the rim and covering the majority of the top of the beer. Aroma is a complicated blend of pomegranate, oak, whiskey, and pinot noir. I was feeling good about guessing pinot noir as I did double check the Deschutes website. I'm not a wine guy and my guess is that had it been madeira or malbec I would have been hosed. The flavor is much more subtle than anticipated. The pomegranate gives the body a very light, crisp feel. It's remarkably smooth for the strength. The pinot noir notes are detectable. I get some warming sweetness from the whiskey barrels and oak provides dryness. Bravo!

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Photo of Prasm
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Smells of bread dough and yeast with hints of whiskey. Thick creamy mouth-feel, taste is dominated by yeasty characteristics turns freakishly sweet through the mid-palate with some licorice notes. Not bad, but borderline over the top with the yeast flavors.

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Photo of Wobbly
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Solid attempt at the classic Belgian style. In my opinion, very few American brewers ever learn to master this style. This is by no means as good as the Belgian originals, but still worth the effort. To date, the best American made Quads I have had are from Boulevard and Ommegang. Unibroue (Canada) is also solid with this and similar styles.

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Photo of BCraig
3.58/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Poured from bomber bottle into a nonic pint glass. Light copper color with a one inch white-tan head that quickly dissipates.

S - banana, clove, malt aromas, sour fruit, toffee, some oak as expected

T - caramel, toffee malt flavor with fruit tang/sour, warming alcohol sensation

M- Medium bodied, high carbonation

O - The fruit notes open up more as the Quad warmed; I wanted more Pom flavor and more from the aging barrels, but a good exploration of an enhanced quad. I'm curious about "not the Stoic" that seems to almost be more popular.

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Photo of Jjski
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Interesting white wine and oak notes abound. I don't get a lot of rye whiskey but maybe that's the tartness and bite.

Little quad character in look or taste. More of an orange scented ale with Belgian yeast and white wine.

I liked NOT the Stoic a bunch more. Bought more of NOT, but won't get anymore of this

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Photo of stevoj
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

On tap at Albertsons. Pours out a medium golden with red tinge. Aroma is pit fruit, prunes. Taste comes on strong with fruit sweetness, sugar and a copious amount of alcohol warmth. Body seems a bit light, but flavor makes up for that shortcoming.

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Photo of jds16
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Honey colored, which Ive heard bothers some people, but looks tempting. White head with big bubbles doesn't last long, and that turns out to be the only thing that disappointed me. Aromas of honey, cherries, vanilla, grapes dominate the nose with a hint of spice. I taste peaches, honey, grapes, vanilla, oak, caramel, cloves, and just a hint of whiskey. Mesium-full body, but goes down dangerously easily.
If you want this beer to be just like the big-name Belgian quads (e.g. Abt 12) you'll be disappointed. If you're willing to let it just be itself, I think this is a phenomenal beer.

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Photo of justinp444
4.55/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter this beer is a semi clear slight amber orange with a foamy white inch thick quickly dissipating head. Smell of pomegranate, apple, cherry, caramel, white grape juice, and some sweet malt. Taste is oak, cherry, pomeganate, vanilla, dried fruit, figs, orange, bit of whiskey, caramel, sweet malt, apple, honey, grape juice, spice at the end with some nice warming alcohol. It has a moderate to full mouth feel with a medium body. Very complex and very well balanced with a nice overall sweet fruity taste backed up by heavier oak and malt characteristic. Best by date is 05/08/16, I'm having this one fresh (08/05/15) and then trying one aged on that date.

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Photo of chrisjws
4.06/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass at Stuft Crust Milpitas

A: Caramel, light brown in color. Very cloudy, almost turbid.
S: Caramel, sweetness, dark fruit, some vanilla oak coming through
T: Caramel again upfront, sweet in the middle mouth with a bit of tropical and dark fruits
M: Medium mouthfeel, low carbonation. Coats the mouth and lingers for quite awhile
O: Solid quad, didn't blow me away but was very enjoyable.

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Photo of Catracho5
3.37/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

22 ounce bottle poured into a Deschutes snifter

A: Dark orange, amber color with a white head that disappeared pretty fast, not a lot of carbonation, some lacing, very clear, doesn't look like other quads I've tried.

A: Definitely getting some oak from the barrels, sweet, like citrus sweet, some rye, doesn't smell like a quad, it's missing that Belgian yeast characteristic.

T: Slight Belgian yeast, leans more on the sweet caramel, fruit side, oak comes through pretty strong, rye, some bitterness in the middle, it has a peach, apricot sweetness, slight spice, clove, finishes dry.

M: A little light, more than what I was expecting.

O: Not impressed, never had a quad like this, it's light in color, it's missing big Belgian yeast characteristics I have had in other quads, missing dark fruit notes, no spicy notes. It's more on the light sweet side, not so much dark sweet side, I've had Not the Stoic, enjoyed that more. Probably won't pick up another bottle.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.29/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

As the perversion of this recipe continues to sway in and out of the beer drinker's psyche, the latest version of The Stoic lands in the Deschutes brewer's lap with a thump of sweetness and a moderate fruit/spice blend.

Lighter than expected, the honey amber and peachy orange hues casts a short and creamy head to entice the nose with candied sweetness, apricot, nectarine, orange and date, with a tinge of clove. And once the beer layers upon the tongue, its simple sweetness is realized; slight of caramel, honey and maple.

Proceeding upon the middle palate, the full sweetness is realized in its candied, cola and toasty grain form. As elements of grilled fruitcake arise, its spicy rebuttal rises to meet the sweetness and fruitiness with white pepper, clove and vanilla all it's own.

Yielding to the beer's sweeter and more succulent side, a sweet tooth must be had to find great favor as the full bodied taste and long sweetness is labored on the finish. Warming but never hot, the beer trends port-like and hinting of mead and cola while an aftertaste of dried fruit and honey biscuit remain.

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Photo of ta_hagen
4.79/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Very sweet candy like taste, doesn't take like a Quad. Very fruity... Grapes, plums, cherry, and pomegranate. Clove from the aroma comes through on the tongue. Candied sugar. Probably from the Belgian yeast. Wine notes are more subdued them in the aroma but the whiskey comes through more, but very dry finish.. Caramel, toffee, and oak in the hinted background. Thumbs up for sure!!!

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Photo of ONovoMexicano
4.08/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a pint glass (I'm not complaining, that's more beer).

Arrives with a quarter finger of oatmeal-colored head that quickly dissipates. Carbonation is visible and constant through a transparent, copper-colored body. 4.25

Floral, date and plum heavy, caramelly and sweet. Thick with a syrupy aroma. 4.25

Flavor is a continuation of the nose but with a surprising hop presence and a taste of jelly and bread. It's flavors are fruity, granola-like and caramelly with a touch of spice. There seem to be some barrel-qualities (oak and rye mostly) but they're light. 4

The floral presence is pronounced as is the malt and some sort of subtly spicy ingredient. If this beer is high ABV it's not drinking as such. 4

It's got a unique quad flavor that's pretty damn enjoyable although it takes some adjusting to.

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Photo of leroybrown10
3.86/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a clear orangish-amber color. Very small cream color head disappears almost instantly. No lacing whatsoever. I've never seen a Quad this light in color.

Aroma is quite vinous. Grapes and plums. Belgian esters. Clove, pear, caramel. Hints of whiskey around the edges.

Taste is fruity, sweet, and mildly boozy. Grapes, plums, cherry, and pomegranate. Clove from the aroma comes through on the tongue. Candied sugar. Belgian yeast. Wine notes are more subdued them in the aroma but the whiskey comes through more. Caramel, toffee, and oak.

Medium body with medium carbonation. A bit cloying on the tongue. Booziness lingers. Just a bit of tartness transitioning to dryness on the back end.

This has a best after date of May 2016. I think the age will definitely help. The booziness needs to be tamed a bit and some of the flavors are a bit sharp.

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Photo of UrbanCaveman
3.69/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22 oz bomber, poured into an oversized wine glass at ~50 degrees F.

Appearance: Pours a brilliant, clear amber, forming no head, with no bubbles anywhere to be seen and thus, no lacing. At all.

Smell: Candi sugar and caramel, twined around a mixture of subtle fruits, dark and vinous.

Taste: Opens with sugars and caramel, with a supporting chorus of raisin and cherry, all of which remain strong through the entire tasting process. Some faint grape and berry whispers along the edges here and there, and there's a touch of herbs and spice as well. A mild tinge of hardwood, barely perceptible, meanders through the beer as well.

Mouthfeel: Slick, and on the lighter side of medium-bodied. This is also not as sticky as one might expect, given the style and the sweetness.

Overall: Not a bad example of the style - this is an 11% beer that completely disguises the ABV, and almost encourages quaffing quickly via the sweetness and the light body. That being said, I don't know that the various stages of barrel-aging mentioned on the label necessarily added much complexity not already found in other quad/BSDA examples. I don't regret this purchase by any stretch of the imagination, but at the same time, at this price point, I don't know that I would buy this beer again.

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Photo of AndyAvalanche
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

22 oz bomber poured into and oversized wine glass/goblet. Liquid comes out a bright blood orange with a lot of particles and sediment floating around in there. Glows a slightly lighter shade of the same color when held up to the light, but the light barley seeps through. Small fizzy white cap that goes away fairly quickly leaving just a ring around the edges of the glass. Not much in the way of lacing.

I initially didn't like the smell, but it grew on me quickly. Smells of vinous fruits, honey, oak, slight citrus and maybe a bit of a tart/acidic fruit like cranberry or pomegranate. A bit of sweet grain kicking around in the nose as well.

Taste is a step up, and slightly more representative of the style. Sweet maltiness comes out strong in the flavor, miixed in with the oak that has a strong presence and even a little bit of rye. Still theres's plenty of veinous fruits.

Mouthfeel is easily the best part of this beer. It's light bodied but it somehow works, because it still has a lingering flavor. Modest carbonation level the flavor cover all of your taste buds and it has a nice clean, semi-dry, bitter finish. Crazy drinkable, probably the most drinkable 11% beer I've had period.

Great beer overall. Maybe SLIGHTLY past it's prime, I slightly wish I had it this summer because it has a lot of refreshing qualities, but it's a good quad. I like it a lot. Thanks Geoff for the recommendation and trade, a solid brew that I'm really glad to say if've tried.

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Photo of SHODriver
4/5  rDev +5%

A: poured into a snifter to a clear and deep orange with a finger of dense white head that fades quickly to a small mat
S: smells of stone fruits, dark fruits, wine, oak, and caramel
T: taste is somewhat muted but notes of wine barrels, a little oak, some caramel, vanilla, pomegranate and some spicy yeast notes. swallow is a little alcohol, some phenols and spice, plus a lingering pomegranate and fruitiness. Rye whiskey becomes a little more apparent with each sip in a good way but the beer still has great complexity
M: fairly full in body with soft but present carbonation and a dry finish
O: This beer is one smooth sipper with great flavors that blend and play well together. It stood up well even though this one has a best before date instead of a best after date.

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Photo of LambicPentameter
4.06/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Enjoyed out of a 22 oz brown bomber with a "best by" date of 8/4/12, which is hilarious because all of Deschutes bigger, barrel-aged beers now come with a "best after" date. This is the third beer in sequence of my Conflux No. 1 deconstruction tasting. Poured into an old fashioned glass.

Appearance (3.75) - Pours a golden amber color, much lighter than you expect from a quad, with even some hints of goldenrod where the light passes through and refracts in the bottom of the glass. It was also hard to coax much of a head out on this one, building up to a half finger at best before almost immediately disappearing to leave a ringlet of white suds and a waif of film partially across the liquid surface.

Smell (4.0) - Pleasant notes of graham cracker and vanilla alongside some subtle hints of medium-fruit in the vein of figs and of course, pomegranate. The barrel is definitely present and imparts subtle vinous notes with some malbec-like spiciness and oak tannins.

Taste (4.25) - While the aroma left me a tiny bit wanting, the taste is really quite nice, with a pretty heavy presence from the pomegranate. Luckily, that fruity sweetness, which also calls to mind cranberry gives way to some richer notes of vanilla and clove spice, with some hints of the rye whiskey barrels in which it was partially aged, but pretty faint. I could do with a little more rye whiskey.

Mouthfeel (3.75) - Lighter bodied than I would have expected, but perhaps the extended time aging has allowed this beer to take a downward turn as far as body goes. Moderate to low carbonation at this point in it's life cycle and a slightly lackluster effervescence on the tongue.

Overall (4.0), an interesting take on a quad. At this point in time, I don't really get a lot of the quintessential dark fruits that you expect from a Belgian quad, but this one steps a little outside the box with the use of pomegranate molasses and being partially aged in wine and rye barrels. It's hard to compare with Not The Stoic, given the time lapse, but this one has held up quite nicely, especially for being over two years past the enjoy by date.

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Photo of BierJager89
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours an opaque orange with a white head.

S: Must, orange and stale malt in the nose.

T: Strawberry, orange, stale malt, must.

M: Medium bodied and smooth.

O: A bit of a disappointment, but it's still a pretty good beer. I would recommend this, but it doesn't really taste like you would think it would, based on the description (barrel aged quad).

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Photo of bizweasel
4.54/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Amazing. Belgian yeast (actually a pretty light touch) along with some strong sweetness from the malt. Sweet like a good barleywine would be, a sweetness that seems totally natural in this context. Most beers that are in the style don't choose to go so sweet, but for this beer it really, really works. Absolutely my new favorite.

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Photo of ccrida
4.21/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Lost review in browser, oh well. Cellared upon release, this was my first one. Not a quad by my book at all, but as BSPA, I really thought it was good. I liked the play of the fruit with the robust yet clean alcohol character. The barrel play was modest, but suited the malt bill. Not what I was expected, but solid Belgian style ale. I'm curious how my other bottle will age, but I probably won't want it to loose all the fruit, and therefore don't have high expectations for longer term. I'll check back in within 2-3 years.

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Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.14/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Best by 8/4/12 (about a year past that date)
The beer pours a hazy/speckled dark amber with a creamy off-white head that laces. The nose has huge notes of plumb, tart cherries, cherry blossoms, and malt. The taste presents the same bold stone fruits upfront with a blast of warm, booze soaked grains in the finish. The body is a bit lighter than other quads comparatively, but well carbonated, fruity, bready, and has masked booze in the finish. The aftertaste is bitter/rindy and a bit off putting, but certainly doesn't ruin the beer. Considering the price/availability and all additional components of this review, I'd say this quad is worthy of a try, but not more impressive than a 3 philosophers (for instance).

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Photo of Tone
3.79/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a cloudy, copper/golden color. 1/4 inch head of an off-white color. Decent retention and slight lacing. Smells of sweet malt, yeast, hint of grape, slight raspberry, alcohol, and a hint of wheat. Fits the style of a Quadrupel. Mouth feel is sharp and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, yeast, grapes, hint of citrus, sweet malt, and a hint of spice. Overall, alcohol is not over-powering, which I enjoy. The body at first, reminded me of a blend of Lindeman's Framboise and Kwak. Weak appearance and complexity, but good aroma, body, and blend.

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Photo of ESPNman
4.02/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Best-by date on the bottle 8/4/12
I had one before the best-by, and thought it was too hot.... I sat this one down a little while longer to see if the alcohol bite mellowed. It has not.

A - The appearance isn't that of your standard quad. It pours a light, almost strawberry-blonde. Very little head, zero retention, no lacing. The bubbles rise slowly from the bottom of the glass, making the beer look a lot thicker than it is. Overall, it's just not a normal quad color.

S - Pomegranate, sweet malts, syrup, a bit of oak, and a little bit of candied sugar on the nose. A little bit of pepper, and a lot of vinous alcohol.

T - More light fruit, lots of white wine flavors coming though. Moderately sweet, with a wine-like alcoholic finish that carries a surprising bit of tart with it. Finishes medium-dry.

O - Interesting take on the Belgian quad, but ultimately disappointing for what I was expecting. Good, but not great. For such a hard-to-find beer, you'd expect it to be a little more representative of the style.

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
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