The Stoic | Deschutes Brewery

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States
deschutesbrewery.com

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

Added by msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

BEER STATS
Ratings:
798
Reviews:
270
Avg:
3.81
pDev:
13.91%
 
 
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83
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Photo of quirkzoo
3.62/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I have had this beer before but it still surprised me how light it pours, gold, with just a touch of orange and a very small white head that recedes quickly. The aroma is very sweet, lots of complex fruity belgian yeast esters, lots of berries, overripe strawberries, blueberries, slightly acidic smelling but not in a sour way. Some definite light caramel maltiness in the background and a touch of oaky tannins. The taste is nice, similar to the aroma but slightly more muted, not as bright. Very light bitterness, just enough to balance the high notes of the flavor. The mouthfeel is nice, very smooth, especially for 11%. Overall a friend shared a bottle of this a while back and I decided to pick up a bottle for myself, not quite as good as the top level Belgian quads but a very decent American attempt at the style.

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Photo of sandy408
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of vbiliyar
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of Souleman
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of Joshgonzales79
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of DWarcher
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of cisteve
3.25/5  rDev -14.7%

Photo of Tilley4
3.12/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Been loving some Belgians lately and I cracked this one open on a particularly muggy April evening...

Sweet boozy aromas are almost overwhelming right up front. The pomengranates are definitely prevalent as is the barrel aging as there is quite a bit of vinous quality to this. I'm getting some of the bourbon barrel as well but I'm not digging it like I do in Boulevard's version. Aromas all over the place...

Sweet and boozy... Vinous and raw... More bourbon burn than I was expecting and not as much flavor as I was hoping... A rare miss from this brewery for me... I like Deschutes a lot and everything I've ever had from them has been amazing but this doesn't do it for me. I finished but... it was work.

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Photo of DavidST
3.33/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a goblet, best by 8/04/12. This pours a slightly hazy golden color with a short lived white head. The smells are of belgian yeast esters, banana, brown sugar, other malts. The feel is medium a little tingly. The taste is disappointing, a little yeast, some sugar, some bitterness.

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Photo of txbrewer
3.94/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Apple juice with an off white head. No sediment in the bottle and it was quite clear in the glass.

S - Malty sweet, easy on the hops and bitterness.

T - Malty,raisins??, mild hop and an almost fruity note. Even though the bottle says 11 % ABV, it does not come through in the taste.

M - Light carbonation lets the malty sweetness linger with a very mild hop finish.

D - Yes, quite so. They should make plenty more of this.

A third of this was barrel aged (half wine and half rye) and I am guessing that is where the fruity and raisin taste is coming from. Quite nice for the malt and hop balance in this one. Picked this up at Whole Foods so I may have to go back and grab a couple more bottles.

UPDATE- Read some other reviews and something is off. Seems that some people got the cloudy with and without the yeast - mine was clear with nothing remaining in the bottle at all???

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Photo of claspada
2.78/5  rDev -27%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Pours a semi-clear peach/amber color with a small white head that is not typical for most Belgian ales; mild spotty lacing and a decent amount of chunky yeast which must have been aroused trying to get the wax off the bottle.

Aromas begin with all Belgian yeast phenols; bubblegum and banana are huge here. There are other light fruity esters in the background but I wouldn't be able to discern pomegranate if I didn't know from the bottle/research.

The taste begins super, super phenolic and estery as well. It features apple, pear and white wine grapes establishing dominance; it is followed by spicy yeast and more lighter vinous elements; slight oaky dryness, in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium-bodied with moderate carbonation and some warmth in the gullet. Finish is dry but not as dry as I would like and/or expect from a Belgian ale, which are usually dry, and one aged on oak should also be extra dry.

Overall, this is a decent Belgian Golden Strong but definitely not a quad to my palate. There is a lot that went into this beer but the sum is less than the parts. Too estery and phenolic with not enough pomegranate or rye barrel; probably could have used more time in the barrel and/or more fruit additions. I will have trouble finishing the second glass because this is just not flavorful/enjoyable for my tastes.

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Photo of kojevergas
4.06/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a 25 cl Leffe goblet at The Daily Pint in Santa Monica, California. Reviewed from notes. I'd had this before from the bottle and knew it was good already.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of nice cream, great thickness, and good retention for the style. Colour is a semitransparent copper. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Bretts, clean fresh malts, some funkiness, and bright esters. A moderate strength aroma. Very pleasant. Fresh and clean.

T: The malts are layered and brilliant. Very fresh with wonderful orange citrus esters. Complex and subtle, but I preferred it out of the bottle when it was yeasty and more complex. A touch cidery. A bit appley. Very well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, crisp, and wet. Not too thick/thin. Smack-your-lips lovely. Delicately light on the palate. Quite pleasant.

Dr: Incredibly drinkable. This was better out of the bottle with the yeast. I'd have it again, preferably bottle-aged. A lovely quad from Deschutes. Hides its ABV insanely well. Give her a go, lads.

B+

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Review saved from the duplicate serving type review purge and copied below. This was my original review of the beer from the bottle on 12/11/2011. I've averaged the two reviews to yield the score I gave it.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with waxed-over pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are extremely high; I love deschutes and quads. This is a dream come true. Let's see if it stacks up.

A: Pours a half finger head of slight cream, pretty thin, and of okay retention when you factor in the high ABV. Colour is a nontransparent textbook copper. Appealing.

Sm: Wonderful. Impressive yeasty aroma with strong notes of candied sugar, pomegranate fruit tones, light oak, and whiskey. Really a lovely balanced aroma. Quite pleasant and inviting. Some sourness/bacteria is also of note, and maybe some light hints of white wine. It certainly smells complex. I hope it tastes as good as it smells. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Fruity tones - pomegranate, maybe light green apple, lovely tinges of sourness, full expressive yeast, a light oak tone, and a full malt foundation. The malt is wonderfully subtle, sort of the polar opposite of how it's used in crappy Spanish macro lagers (see San Miguel). The candied sugar is lovely and gives it a tingly sensation. Very complex yet wonderfully balanced, with a rare subtlety of flavour. Extremely well built. No note really dominates; they all layer and congeal to comprise an all around wonderful taste. No alcohol is detectable.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with just enough thickness to support the complex flavours and ABV without being overbearing. The tingly sensation produced by the candied sugar lends it the needed coarseness to coax out the flavours without lessening drinkability. Bravo.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the ABV, and very drinkable in general. I wouldn't call this a sipper like many Russian Imperial Stouts; it certainly isn't sessionable but it's of fantastic quality, quite enjoyable to drink, and allows swigs rather than sips. If I had to murder my grandmother to try this on-tap, I'd have to pause to think about it - and then I'd remember that bottle conditioning suits quads better - and I'd stop myself. Another home-run from Deschutes. It's a shame it isn't more widely available. I imagine it ages wonderfully. It would pair well with food that doesn't have too strong a flavour or temperature - perhaps a sandwich or salad. I'd like to see Deschutes brew a quad more akin to Westvleteren 12, using those wonderful dark fruit notes. A comparative analysis between the two is by no means fair, but nevertheless I'd like to see Deschutes attempt something similar. I think that's testament to the quality of their brews. I look forward to trying more beers from Deschutes; they seem to consistently satisfy me.

4.2

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Photo of Mebuzzard
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

At 11% abv, this is a nice drinking beer.
It looks pretty dog-gone good with a bright golden pour, and nice dense foamy head.

hints of apple, pear, caramel and pecan dance around the nose.

Flavors are those above plus some faint citrus and vanilla. Somewhat sweet in the middle but it dries out fairly well. Not sure about the Quad category, though. A bit light all around

Very nice beer and I drank it all in about 15 minutes. I was celebrating :)

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Photo of gtermi
3.95/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a nice orangish gold with a thin white head tht quickly fades.

S: There is a nice amount of "Quad" scents, but the pomegranate for sure sticks out on the nose. There is also a nice fruity smell that I seem to pick up the more I have my nose in the glass.

T: Again has a very nice quad flavor, but then it starts to really show the pomegranate flavors that dominate the flavor. It is very nice and different for a quad.

M: To me there is a little bit too much carbonation in this beer. It is very crisp and burns a little going down. With a high alcohol beer like this, I like it to be more of a smooth carbonation.

O: For 14 dollars I much would have rather bought a St. Bernardus 12, but its hard to compare to that. This is a very good beer from a great brewery. This isnt your typical quad and I respect Deschutes for stepping out of line with that.

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Photo of jar2574
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Debatable whether the black wax top adds to the experience or merely annoys the drinker by forcing them to work harder to get to their beer. The beer was poured into a Chimay goblet so the head was thinner than if it'd been put into a pint glass. The beer is a cloudy dark orange color.

The smell is citrus hops, Belgian yeasts, very nice.

The mouthfeel is pretty thick with a slight alcohol burn on the tongue and not that much carbonation.

The taste is slightly acidic and very complex. Different fruit flavors - grapefruit, pomgranete and cherries. Oakiness from the aging process, I guess. And a little bit of sourness and funkiness, maybe from the yeasts.

This warmed up quite a bit as I drank the bottle and it was as good at room temperature as chilled.

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Photo of siradmiralnelson
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz wax dipped bottle into chalice.

A. Poured a half finger of head that disappeared very quickly. Very little retention. A little bit of lacing. Color is surprisingly a pretty vibrant orange color. Strange color for a quad.

S. Some dark fruit, a little bit of pear, some clove, and a little banana. Get a lot of different belgian aromas, not all quad smells though. Some candi sugar. Raisins, and pear are predominant. Has a little bit of bitterness. Smells a little bit more like a BSPA than a quad. A little bit of alcohol aroma, but not much.

T. Pear, light fruit, alcohol, clove, caramel, lots of flavors going on. Doesent really taste like a quad. Really a cross between a Belgian Strong Pale Ale and a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. When you get past the fact it doesn't taste like a quad, you can focus on all the flavors going on. Pretty sweet. Not much trace of alcohol. Actually drinks pretty easy.

M. Medium/full bodied. Low carbonation. Finishes sweet.

O. Overall this beer definitely misses the mark as a Quad. All in all though it is still a pretty tasty Belgian beer. Has a lot of the flavor components of a BSPA.

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Photo of joemcgrath27
4.07/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - hazy copper orange, thumb of head dissipated to a thin covering, lots of suspended floaties
S - fruity aromas of banana and tropicals, mild spice notes with some graininess
T - big tart tangy fruit flavours up front, a tropical fruitiness brings out the pomegranate infusion, mild touch of rye and woodiness from the barrel again, very unique
M - medium body with a slight creaminess, gives way to a tartness leaving a puckering feel, with the big ABV very well hidden
O - a very unique quad in terms of flavour mixing, the addition of fruits and different barrel aging is a nice touch, a must try

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Photo of conradh
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of Mordax
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%

Photo of DocJitsu
4.12/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a cloudy golden copper with a white head that attenuates quickly. This is not my style, but I was pleasantly surprised. The bouquet is characterized by raisin, green banana, and Fruity Pebbles. Flavors of sweet green banana and raisin that finishes with tart grape. This beer drinks like a Belgian without that usual undesirable yeast finish.

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Photo of Snikwad1020
4.75/5  rDev +24.7%

Photo of Duke
3.56/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

(From a tulip glass)

Appearance: The Stoic is almost clear, a dull amber in colour, with a tiny head that dissipated quickly, leaving no lacing. Lots of sediment.

Smell: Surprisingly bold, given the appearance. Pomegranate dominates my nose, with vanilla as a sidekick. It's sweet and floral. Banana become progressively more apparent. I don't smell any alcohol at all.

Taste: Very sweet. Quite malty. The flavours aren't as distinct as the scents, but I can taste the pomegranate, and perhaps some of that banana. One would never guess that this is 11% ABV. Never.

Mouthfeel: Gassy. Fizzy. It reminds me of Strongbow. The body is on the full side but the raw fizz is too much for my taste. There's a bit of a foamy finish too, and that's putting me off.

Overall: My nose liked this much more than my mouth did. I'm a big fan of the big quadrupels, so perhaps I might have been thinking too much of the great Trappistes. This is by no means a traditional quadrupel at all - it tastes more like a tripel with its spice and floral nature - but the beer just felt unbalanced and overly sweet, despite good promises from the nose.

There is a pleasant warmth that kicks in after a while, and that's very welcome indeed.

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Photo of zeff80
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with a one-finger, white head of bubbly foam. It some sudsy rings of lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of pomegranate and other fruits. Some wood-like aromas and caramel.

T - Nice pomegranate flavor with some yeasty/spiciness. Good caramel sweetness with a touch of oak to add some needed bitterness.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry finish.

O - By no means is this a traditional Quadrupel, but it still a tasty beer and worth a try.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a medium orange amber with a fine two finger white head with great retention. Aromatic aroma of Belgian spices, a bit of light fruit and light malt. Taste is light fruit, a hint of banana and cherry, pomegranite. Light bodied. A suggestion of the wine barrel aging, not very much oak presence. This seems less like a quadrupel and more like a Belgian strong pale ale. Nice looking and pleasant to drink, but maybe not quite for the premium series price. I am going to age one of these to see how time treats it. I has good potential.

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Photo of justinwright
4.75/5  rDev +24.7%

The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
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