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The Stoic | Deschutes Brewery

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States
deschutesbrewery.com

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

Added by msubulldog25 on 08-03-2011

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#8,916
Reviews:
271
Ratings:
806
pDev:
13.44%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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Ratings: 806 |  Reviews: 271
Photo of billab914
3.47/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into my CBS snifter. It poured orange amber in color with just a trace amount of white lacing clinging to the edges of the glass.

The aroma is very floral, fruity and spicy with the Belgian yeast spices playing a big role in the flavors. The fruity, sweet, almost honey like pomegranate juice mixes with a little of the wine barrel character. The fruity, sweetness is a little too overpowering though unfortunately, and I don't get any of the rye whiskey barrel.

The taste is also dominated by the sweet, fruity, juiciness and the Belgian yeast spice. Again, I get some hints of the wine barrel, but none of the whiskey. The finish is dry with the spices and a little more of the wine barrel to it.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with carbonation being moderate. Overall it was a decent and interesting beer, but not one that really stands out. The sweet, sugary, fruitiness and spice dominated a little too much and seemed to overshadow some of the flavors I was looking forward to unfortunately.

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Photo of andrenaline
4.27/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From notes... Another gem that was a part of a recent trade from joemcgrath27.

A - Pours a slightly hazy copper brown colour, finger of head with some retention and no real lacing.

S - Cloves and bananas, juicy fruit gum, bubble gum and some yeast phenols.

T - Nice balance between sugary fruit sweetness and a sour bitterness. Bananas and cloves dominate alongside a hint of abv heat, the juicy fruit gum comes through and a hint of wooden oak and peat on the finish.

M - Medium bodied, but can come across as heavily carbonated, smooth going down adn a hint of dryness on the finish.

O - Complex and flavourful, incredibly (and dangerously) drinkable at 11%, and all around world class. Certainly a fruitier take on the style, so if you're not into the sweetness you might not find it as enjoyable. I on the other hand wish all quad's had this sweetness to them. Delicious!

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

the stoic is one heck of an interesting beer. pours murky light amber color with a slight pink tint and an effervescent white head. looks much lighter than most quads ive had, coming in almost honey colored rather than that deep caramel color im accustomed to in these. it smells tart and sour, yeasty, and lots of fresh fruit. the flavor is much more tempered by the wood aging, and the rye flavors come through very nicely and compliment the tartness of the pomegranates. never really tasted anything quite like this, its oaky, almost sour, and even flowery in the yeast. feel is very excited carbonation and a lighter to medium body. alcohol flavor and feel is entirely absent. amazing. this would be quite drinkable except for the abv strength. overall another exceptional beer from deschutes. theyve got to be one of the finest operations in the country.

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Photo of scott2269
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of DangerDawg
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of DarthGuitarHero
4.25/5  rDev +9.8%

Photo of OldPenguinHunter
3/5  rDev -22.5%

Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.5/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22 oz wax-dipped bottle poured into a snifter.
Best By 08/04/12, 11% ABV

Thanks to Wisrarebeer for this bottle!

A - Bright maple golden in color, The Stoic is a light-colored quad with just slight cloudiness hazing it. The densely-packed ivory head dots the snifter in lace as it settles slowly.

S - Abundantly spicy, The Stoic showcases Belgian yeast doin' it's thing; earthy clay, cardamom, coriander seed, and trances of banana Runt fruitiness. The complexity goes much deeper, however; fruity alcohol including raisin and light cherry, oak-infused white grapes, and a very faint vinegar-like wine aspect. Sharp rye whiskey is noticeable through the finish but almost as an afterthought in how complex the beer smells.

T - Yeast takes center stage again, pushing past all the other goings-on to provide light banana and spicy earth notes. Pomegranate is much more noticeable and serves the beer well with it's underlying wine characteristics. Sweet white grape and warm, boozy alcohol immediately follow and segue into the caramel-malty finish.

M - Warming phenol alcohol is strong in this one! Subtle-yet-gripping, it faintly things out the round, full-bodied mouthfeel that finishes with a tickle of higher carbonation. Lip-smacking dryness is welcome as it begs for another sip, quietly, without being bothersome.

O - Similar to a lightly spiced holiday dessert wine, The Stoic exudes significant complexity. Within it's extensive production process, this classic style undergoes a wonderful transformation into an elegant sipping beer with a broad depth of unique flavors to satisfy even the most discerning palate.

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Photo of quirkzoo
3.62/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I have had this beer before but it still surprised me how light it pours, gold, with just a touch of orange and a very small white head that recedes quickly. The aroma is very sweet, lots of complex fruity belgian yeast esters, lots of berries, overripe strawberries, blueberries, slightly acidic smelling but not in a sour way. Some definite light caramel maltiness in the background and a touch of oaky tannins. The taste is nice, similar to the aroma but slightly more muted, not as bright. Very light bitterness, just enough to balance the high notes of the flavor. The mouthfeel is nice, very smooth, especially for 11%. Overall a friend shared a bottle of this a while back and I decided to pick up a bottle for myself, not quite as good as the top level Belgian quads but a very decent American attempt at the style.

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Photo of sandy408
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of vbiliyar
4.5/5  rDev +16.3%

Photo of Souleman
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of Joshgonzales79
4.5/5  rDev +16.3%

Photo of DWarcher
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

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3.25/5  rDev -16%

Photo of Tilley4
3.12/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Been loving some Belgians lately and I cracked this one open on a particularly muggy April evening...

Sweet boozy aromas are almost overwhelming right up front. The pomengranates are definitely prevalent as is the barrel aging as there is quite a bit of vinous quality to this. I'm getting some of the bourbon barrel as well but I'm not digging it like I do in Boulevard's version. Aromas all over the place...

Sweet and boozy... Vinous and raw... More bourbon burn than I was expecting and not as much flavor as I was hoping... A rare miss from this brewery for me... I like Deschutes a lot and everything I've ever had from them has been amazing but this doesn't do it for me. I finished but... it was work.

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Photo of DavidST
3.33/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into a goblet, best by 8/04/12. This pours a slightly hazy golden color with a short lived white head. The smells are of belgian yeast esters, banana, brown sugar, other malts. The feel is medium a little tingly. The taste is disappointing, a little yeast, some sugar, some bitterness.

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Photo of txbrewer
3.94/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Apple juice with an off white head. No sediment in the bottle and it was quite clear in the glass.

S - Malty sweet, easy on the hops and bitterness.

T - Malty,raisins??, mild hop and an almost fruity note. Even though the bottle says 11 % ABV, it does not come through in the taste.

M - Light carbonation lets the malty sweetness linger with a very mild hop finish.

D - Yes, quite so. They should make plenty more of this.

A third of this was barrel aged (half wine and half rye) and I am guessing that is where the fruity and raisin taste is coming from. Quite nice for the malt and hop balance in this one. Picked this up at Whole Foods so I may have to go back and grab a couple more bottles.

UPDATE- Read some other reviews and something is off. Seems that some people got the cloudy with and without the yeast - mine was clear with nothing remaining in the bottle at all???

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Photo of claspada
2.78/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Pours a semi-clear peach/amber color with a small white head that is not typical for most Belgian ales; mild spotty lacing and a decent amount of chunky yeast which must have been aroused trying to get the wax off the bottle.

Aromas begin with all Belgian yeast phenols; bubblegum and banana are huge here. There are other light fruity esters in the background but I wouldn't be able to discern pomegranate if I didn't know from the bottle/research.

The taste begins super, super phenolic and estery as well. It features apple, pear and white wine grapes establishing dominance; it is followed by spicy yeast and more lighter vinous elements; slight oaky dryness, in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium-bodied with moderate carbonation and some warmth in the gullet. Finish is dry but not as dry as I would like and/or expect from a Belgian ale, which are usually dry, and one aged on oak should also be extra dry.

Overall, this is a decent Belgian Golden Strong but definitely not a quad to my palate. There is a lot that went into this beer but the sum is less than the parts. Too estery and phenolic with not enough pomegranate or rye barrel; probably could have used more time in the barrel and/or more fruit additions. I will have trouble finishing the second glass because this is just not flavorful/enjoyable for my tastes.

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Photo of kojevergas
4.06/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a 25 cl Leffe goblet at The Daily Pint in Santa Monica, California. Reviewed from notes. I'd had this before from the bottle and knew it was good already.

A: Pours a 1.5 finger head of nice cream, great thickness, and good retention for the style. Colour is a semitransparent copper. No yeast particles are visible.

Sm: Bretts, clean fresh malts, some funkiness, and bright esters. A moderate strength aroma. Very pleasant. Fresh and clean.

T: The malts are layered and brilliant. Very fresh with wonderful orange citrus esters. Complex and subtle, but I preferred it out of the bottle when it was yeasty and more complex. A touch cidery. A bit appley. Very well balanced and built.

Mf: Smooth, crisp, and wet. Not too thick/thin. Smack-your-lips lovely. Delicately light on the palate. Quite pleasant.

Dr: Incredibly drinkable. This was better out of the bottle with the yeast. I'd have it again, preferably bottle-aged. A lovely quad from Deschutes. Hides its ABV insanely well. Give her a go, lads.

B+

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Review saved from the duplicate serving type review purge and copied below. This was my original review of the beer from the bottle on 12/11/2011. I've averaged the two reviews to yield the score I gave it.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with waxed-over pressure cap served into a N'ice Chouffe stemgoblet in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are extremely high; I love deschutes and quads. This is a dream come true. Let's see if it stacks up.

A: Pours a half finger head of slight cream, pretty thin, and of okay retention when you factor in the high ABV. Colour is a nontransparent textbook copper. Appealing.

Sm: Wonderful. Impressive yeasty aroma with strong notes of candied sugar, pomegranate fruit tones, light oak, and whiskey. Really a lovely balanced aroma. Quite pleasant and inviting. Some sourness/bacteria is also of note, and maybe some light hints of white wine. It certainly smells complex. I hope it tastes as good as it smells. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Fruity tones - pomegranate, maybe light green apple, lovely tinges of sourness, full expressive yeast, a light oak tone, and a full malt foundation. The malt is wonderfully subtle, sort of the polar opposite of how it's used in crappy Spanish macro lagers (see San Miguel). The candied sugar is lovely and gives it a tingly sensation. Very complex yet wonderfully balanced, with a rare subtlety of flavour. Extremely well built. No note really dominates; they all layer and congeal to comprise an all around wonderful taste. No alcohol is detectable.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with just enough thickness to support the complex flavours and ABV without being overbearing. The tingly sensation produced by the candied sugar lends it the needed coarseness to coax out the flavours without lessening drinkability. Bravo.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the ABV, and very drinkable in general. I wouldn't call this a sipper like many Russian Imperial Stouts; it certainly isn't sessionable but it's of fantastic quality, quite enjoyable to drink, and allows swigs rather than sips. If I had to murder my grandmother to try this on-tap, I'd have to pause to think about it - and then I'd remember that bottle conditioning suits quads better - and I'd stop myself. Another home-run from Deschutes. It's a shame it isn't more widely available. I imagine it ages wonderfully. It would pair well with food that doesn't have too strong a flavour or temperature - perhaps a sandwich or salad. I'd like to see Deschutes brew a quad more akin to Westvleteren 12, using those wonderful dark fruit notes. A comparative analysis between the two is by no means fair, but nevertheless I'd like to see Deschutes attempt something similar. I think that's testament to the quality of their brews. I look forward to trying more beers from Deschutes; they seem to consistently satisfy me.

4.2

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Photo of Mebuzzard
3.98/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

At 11% abv, this is a nice drinking beer.
It looks pretty dog-gone good with a bright golden pour, and nice dense foamy head.

hints of apple, pear, caramel and pecan dance around the nose.

Flavors are those above plus some faint citrus and vanilla. Somewhat sweet in the middle but it dries out fairly well. Not sure about the Quad category, though. A bit light all around

Very nice beer and I drank it all in about 15 minutes. I was celebrating :)

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Photo of gtermi
3.95/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: pours a nice orangish gold with a thin white head tht quickly fades.

S: There is a nice amount of "Quad" scents, but the pomegranate for sure sticks out on the nose. There is also a nice fruity smell that I seem to pick up the more I have my nose in the glass.

T: Again has a very nice quad flavor, but then it starts to really show the pomegranate flavors that dominate the flavor. It is very nice and different for a quad.

M: To me there is a little bit too much carbonation in this beer. It is very crisp and burns a little going down. With a high alcohol beer like this, I like it to be more of a smooth carbonation.

O: For 14 dollars I much would have rather bought a St. Bernardus 12, but its hard to compare to that. This is a very good beer from a great brewery. This isnt your typical quad and I respect Deschutes for stepping out of line with that.

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Photo of jar2574
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Debatable whether the black wax top adds to the experience or merely annoys the drinker by forcing them to work harder to get to their beer. The beer was poured into a Chimay goblet so the head was thinner than if it'd been put into a pint glass. The beer is a cloudy dark orange color.

The smell is citrus hops, Belgian yeasts, very nice.

The mouthfeel is pretty thick with a slight alcohol burn on the tongue and not that much carbonation.

The taste is slightly acidic and very complex. Different fruit flavors - grapefruit, pomgranete and cherries. Oakiness from the aging process, I guess. And a little bit of sourness and funkiness, maybe from the yeasts.

This warmed up quite a bit as I drank the bottle and it was as good at room temperature as chilled.

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Photo of siradmiralnelson
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz wax dipped bottle into chalice.

A. Poured a half finger of head that disappeared very quickly. Very little retention. A little bit of lacing. Color is surprisingly a pretty vibrant orange color. Strange color for a quad.

S. Some dark fruit, a little bit of pear, some clove, and a little banana. Get a lot of different belgian aromas, not all quad smells though. Some candi sugar. Raisins, and pear are predominant. Has a little bit of bitterness. Smells a little bit more like a BSPA than a quad. A little bit of alcohol aroma, but not much.

T. Pear, light fruit, alcohol, clove, caramel, lots of flavors going on. Doesent really taste like a quad. Really a cross between a Belgian Strong Pale Ale and a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. When you get past the fact it doesn't taste like a quad, you can focus on all the flavors going on. Pretty sweet. Not much trace of alcohol. Actually drinks pretty easy.

M. Medium/full bodied. Low carbonation. Finishes sweet.

O. Overall this beer definitely misses the mark as a Quad. All in all though it is still a pretty tasty Belgian beer. Has a lot of the flavor components of a BSPA.

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Photo of joemcgrath27
4.07/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - hazy copper orange, thumb of head dissipated to a thin covering, lots of suspended floaties
S - fruity aromas of banana and tropicals, mild spice notes with some graininess
T - big tart tangy fruit flavours up front, a tropical fruitiness brings out the pomegranate infusion, mild touch of rye and woodiness from the barrel again, very unique
M - medium body with a slight creaminess, gives way to a tartness leaving a puckering feel, with the big ABV very well hidden
O - a very unique quad in terms of flavour mixing, the addition of fruits and different barrel aging is a nice touch, a must try

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
Beer rating: 3.87 out of 5 with 806 ratings
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