The Stoic | Deschutes Brewery

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The StoicThe Stoic

Brewed by:
Deschutes Brewery
Oregon, United States

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
'Brewed with pomegranate with 16.5% being aged in oak wine barrels and 16.5% being aged in oak rye whiskey barrels'

20 IBU

August 2011 - Released in 22 oz. bottles and draught.

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Photo of megapyro6
4.12/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a Chimay chalice.

Appearance: Pours a hazy orange-amber. Half inch off-white head which fades quickly to lacing.

Aroma: Odor of belgian esters, caramel, and a little fruit. There is a slight alcohol aroma. Some honey type odors. Perhaps some floral hops or aroma peeking through as it warms. There is a lot going on, and it's a little difficult to hone in on particular components

Taste: Very belgian and complex. Esters, dark raisiny fruit. Caramel and honey sweetness blends well with the other flavors. Little to no alcohol bite. Not cloying at all. I'm not explicity getting any pomegranate, but it could be hidden in other flavors. There is a little bit of spicy and vanilla oaky flavors.

Mouthfeel: Full mouthfeel. Thick, but not cloying or sticky.

Overall: I enjoyed this. I didn't know much about this beer going in, and was expecting a dark ale going in. A little surprised by the relatively light color, but it's good. It's well balanced, and all of the component flavors combine for a very good beer.

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Photo of leaddog
3.74/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance - Pours an orange amber with a finger width of bubbly white head.

Smell - Vinous aromas, caramel, bready malts, dark fruit (grape, plum, raisin), hint of woodiness, honey.

Taste - Predominantly vinous along with grape, caramel sweetness, malts, and dark fruit. Not really picking up on the whiskey scale. Alcohol is well hidden.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth body with a lingering sweetness on the palate (close to cloying).

Overall - A Belgian quad that delivers on malts and vinous qualities, but lacks on some of the promised deliverables of whiskey barrel woodiness and pomegranate. I feel that the wine barrels take over. I would have liked to taste more fruity esters beyond grape. Not certain if this is worth the hefty price tag.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
4.09/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2015 Version, Best By Date of 05/08/16

Apperance - Pours slightly hazy and mostly copper in color with a half finger of head that fizzes away nearly before I can put the bottle down, leaving a barren surface with only a trace amount of bubbles around the edge.

Smell - Caramel, toffee and banana hit the nose first, then some tartness and musty grape. Distant clove spice.

Taste - Follows the nose. Prominent caramel and banana notes, with lesser clove spice. Big notes of 'white wine' character creep in by mid-taste. Dry, tart apple. Grape skin. Residual sugary sweetness. Finishes sweet with light, lingering tartness.

Mouthfeel - Medium to full in body with low, slightly tingly carbonation. Fluffy texture that dries quickly, almost like cotton candy.

Overall - Kinda tastes like a hefe with a splash of white wine and a spoonful of sugar. Between this and Not The Stoic, I prefer this, but I doubt I'd buy either again. Like most quads, I find too much residual sweetness for me to love past the first few sips, and the hefty price tag doesn't endear me to buying it again, either.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.73/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle - another American baby whale that has decided to come sniffing around up north.

This beer pours a slightly hazy, medium copper amber colour, with two fingers of puffy, loosely foamy, and certainly bubbly ecru head, which leaves some low-lying volcanic island profile lace around the glass as it swiftly abates.

It smells of strongly alcoholic phenols straight off, musty caramel malt, wan, yet still biscuity toffee, some wayward son yeast, a weak under your parents' basement stairs otherness, apple pie, poached pears, brown sugar, muddled baking spices, and some tame earthy, weedy, and perfumed floral hop bitters. The taste is rather sweet 'n gritty caramel/toffee malt, a heady sauced orchard fruitiness (apple, cherry, white plum, and bruised pear), well-behaved yeast, a bit of barrel oakiness (more or less indistinct between the wine and whiskey notes), lame spice, and a still understated by design earthy, leafy, and perfumed hoppiness.

The bubbles are pretty listless in their plainly quotidian frothiness, the body an average middleweight, and more or less smooth, only the hovering booziness proving any sort of immediate threat. It finishes sweet, but in a barely moderated sense - the malt and fruit characters letting themselves go just a wee bit too much.

Overall, this seems like the typical New World craft brewery way of fucking with traditional styles - were Quads not fruity or boozy enough in the first place, that they needed a double dose of barrel treatment as well? Not to mention the large serving size, the rest of which I will have to save for later (so not a bad deal, eh, future me?). In the end, not bad, but not worthy of the rather dear shelf tag, unfortunately.

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Photo of Slack
4.03/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Deep amber in color and a bit cloudy. Maybe ¼ inch of head and minor lacing in the glass.

Picking up a lot of fruit on the nose along with oak. Caramel is also present along with something floral.

Taste the same fruit with notes of alcohol, white grape/wine, oak, and sugar. Whiskey is absent.

Mouthful is medium with medium carbonation.

A departure from the typical quad. The lighter version is an interesting take. Lighter fruits really make the difference here. Very drinkable.

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Photo of HattedClassic
3.89/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a nice white head that dissipates quickly but still leaves an inner ring around the inside of the beer glass (an Ovila Chalice). The beer itself is an unusual color. The color is a fairly light medium amber instead of a much darker black or dark brown that usually defines the style. Regardless, it looks nice.

The smell is a very fruity smell even by the stylistic standards. The aroma seems to consist of a mix between a pomegranate smell with caramel notes and a light whiff of wood from the barrels. The wine barrel note definitely ties the different notes together while the oak from the rye whisky barrels adds a nice whiff. The rye whiskey notes are definitely subtle but there and it works primarily because the pomegranate notes are light as well and complement the whiskey notes. Also, the wine aging seems to have mellowed the pomegranate notes to help it mix well with the whiskey.

The taste has the same notes as the smell. The taste is a bit more fruity and whiskey than the smell. The oak notes from the wine and whiskey barrel are still there but are not as pervasive. Rather, the oak seems to be one strong note that stands out rather than bind the taste together. The pomegranate taste comes out as well but more as if it has been fermented rather than straight from the fruit; it's not as bitter as you would expect. In addition to the pomegranate, there is also a mild orange hop bitterness. Overall, the taste profile is certainly interesting and complex but is very different from the usual guidelines.

The feel is very good. It has a very nice smooth feel that would be similar to whiskey or wine. There is very little carbonation to speak of but enough that it gives the beer some texture.

Overall, a very complex and very interesting quad. It certainly doesn't follow any of the style guidelines but provides a must drink experience regardless because of how subtle and complex the beer smell and taste are. Go for it.

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Photo of stortore
4.07/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into a chalice.

Pours kind of an apricot color, a little hazy, with no head nor lacing to speak of. Smells of wine, grapes, light malt, yeast, a hint of smoke, a little black pepper at the pour. Taste seems to lead with wine, also light malt, some whiskey, some oak, caramel, hint of burnt wood. It's a touch sweet. Smooth, especially for the ABV, well carbonated, taste lingers.

Very enjoyable offering from Deschutes, well worth a purchase.

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Photo of imonhiatus
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

best by 8/4/12...oops...well believe it or not, this oldie is a goodie. nice transparent orange, weird for the style but she's a looker. look taste feel is all a bit syrupy but the age seems to have taken the bite out and it is an easy drinker esp at this abv. has some quad characteristics but this is no quad. pomegranate is evident, no booziness whatsoever though. I liked it!

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Photo of ccg
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours with a healthy foam that disappears quickly. Hazy, orange color.
When first poured, I can smell whiskey barrel and typically sweet, banana-like malty Belgian beer. The initial scent dissipates quickly, leaving a slightly acidic, citrus smell. After it warms up a bit more, it smells more like a sour than a Belgian.
It tastes relatively mild, compared to the way it smells. I can detect the wine barrel a little bit, but if it didn't mention whisky barrels on the label, I wouldn't have guessed it. As it warms, it's taking on more of a tart/sour/citrus character.
The feel is OK, but it has less body than I'd expect from a quad.
Overall: it's good, but I had higher expectations.

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Photo of beergoot
3.62/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2015 release.

Amber colored body; lots of fine, slowly rising carbonation; thick, fairly dense head. Toffee and vanilla scents; orange peel, peach and apricot; coriander. Sweet malt flavors; caramel; boozy notes abound; mild bitterness. Medium body leaning towards heavy; definite alcohol heat; semi-sweet finish with a sharp uptick of alcohol dryness at the end.

A fair quad that seems lighter in color and body and with too much of an alcohol burn to things. Still, the aroma is awesome and the palate can pick up some nice nuances of sweet fruit caramelized grain.

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Photo of jmdrpi
3.79/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

2015 vintage - served on draft, in a small wide glass

clear, dark amber in color, not really any head. very boozy aroma - fairly fruity. taste is fairly sweet, but doesn't quite have as much complexity as I hoped. medium bodied, a bit sticky, Overall, I was hoping for more dark malt flavor - quite a bit lighter than I expected.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
4.37/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2015 vintage poured from bottle into a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer pours a deep orange-copper color with a thick off white head. The head has a fantastic level of retention, very slowly fading over time to leave a bit of spider web lace on the sides of the chalice.

Smell – The aroma is of a dark fruit smell of cherry, plum, and raisin along with a whole lot of a caramel and molasses sugar smell. Along with these smells comes some great aromas of a spicy smell with the spice being a mix of clove and coriander and with some yeast bringing some banana and a little bit of grass along with it. Other aromas of vanilla and some lighter fruits of apple and pear are also there as well and mix with the rest and a bit of oakiness and booziness to produce a fruity and warming sorta wine like smell overall.

Taste – The taste begins with a with a nice fruity taste mainly of lighter fruits with a good deal of apple, pear, and peach, but containing some darker fruit flavors of plum and cherry as well. There are nice hints of vanilla and caramel sweetness which persist and complement the fruity tastes very well. These tastes remain throughout the brew, increasing in the middle of the taste and fading just ever so slightly at the end. Toward the middle of the taste some light yeasty and spice flavors of clove and coriander as well as a little bit of banana develop on the tongue. An oaky French wine taste develops on the tongue as the flavors progress further, matching the fruity and spice flavors very nicely. In the end, the booziness increases a bit and with the nice fruity and wine like characteristics of the brew, it leaves one with a sweeter and crisp flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is slightly light for a quad of 10.8 % with a carbonation level that is on the slightly higher side. The thin body was fantastic for the fruity and wine like characteristics of the brew with the higher carbonation giving a nice effervescent feel. Overall very well done.

Overall – This beer really rocks!!!! I am not sure I would consider it a quad, as its flavor (at least to me) was a bit more on the triple side of things with some hints of quad mixed within. Any which way you slice it however, this was a very nice brew and a very dangerously easy drinking brew overall.

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Photo of DrSpaceman
3.1/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Poured into snifter from wax sealed bomber. Clear golden amber, topped with thin head with little to no retention. Aroma is red wine and brett. Taste is buttery, quickly fading to tart fruit and spice. Body is very light, not what I would expect from a quad. Admittedly, I am not a sours fan. After initially kicking myself for not reading the barrels used in aging...I am pleasantly surprised with this bottle. Would I spend the money again on a wine barrel aged beer, not on your life. I however was able to drink the bottle, and not dump it down the drain.

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Pours a finger of head that quickly disappeared on a hazy straw body.
The aroma is lots of ripe fruit: plum, apricot and spices.
The taste is malt background with lots of fruit sweetness to the end.
The texture is softer.
It's really nice and fruity.

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Photo of plantshrub
1.98/5  rDev -48%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Looks great, if a little hazy. Brilliant lazy copper.

Aromas of peach, pineapple, pomegranate molasses, and olives.

This beer tastes like a Kalamata olive with the pit still in it. Tannic, vingegaric, intense, overbearing, and not pleasant. Oily in a rancid way, if only to characterize everything I just said.

Feels a bit slimy, almost like an overly diacetyl vibe, and just ends up tasting really like a Kalamata olive.

Would rather use it as a salad dressing than something to directly imbibe. My teeth sort of hurt, like I just unwittingly bit down on some hidden olive pits.

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Photo of MattyG85
4.45/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a waxed 22 oz. bottle into a chalice. 2015 Bottle.

Appearance: Pours a deep amber orange with a moderate amount of bubbles. About a finger of off white head that quickly fades away.

Smell: A yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian Quad style aroma with good hints of fruit, red wine, and whiskey. Belgian yeast with good hints of clove and pepper spicing. Sweet hints of Belgian candied sugar and molasses. Barrel hints of red wine and rye whiskey along with some vanilla and oak. Big fruit hints of pomegranate and banana along with other fruit hints of raisin, fig, cherry, dates, berries, apple, pear, and orange. Malt hints of biscuit, caramel, and cracker. Light earthy hops. A really good complex aroma.

Taste: Like it smells, a yeasty, fruity, and sweet Belgian style taste with good notes of fruit, red wine, and rye whiskey. Upfront Belgian yeast with notes of pepper and clove. Sweet taste of molasses and Belgian candied sugar. Nice barrel notes of red wine, rye whiskey, oak, and vanilla. Fruit notes of pomegranate and banana along with some cherry, fig, raison, apple, pear, dates, berry, and orange. Malt notes of caramel and biscuit. Subtle earthy hops. A very good taste.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with a moderate amount of carbonation. Creamy, juicy, and fairly slick. Alcohol is hidden very well.

Overall: A really good spin on a Belgian style Quad. Good mix of fruit notes with a nice barrel presence of wine and whiskey.

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Photo of superspak
4.2/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into chalice, best before 5/8/2016. Pours slightly hazy/cloudy deep orange/copper color with a small dense off white head with solid retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light spotty lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of big raisin, plum, fig, apricot, pear, apple, cherry, red grape, light banana, clove, pepper, vanilla, oak, light whiskey, honey, caramel, light toffee, and yeast/oak earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast, oak barrel, and moderate candi sugar malt notes; with great strength. Taste of big raisin, plum, fig, apricot, pear, apple, cherry, red grape, light banana, clove, pepper, vanilla, oak, light whiskey, honey, caramel, light toffee, and yeast/oak earthiness. Fair amount of yeast/oak spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, fig, apricot, pear, apple, cherry, red grape, clove, pepper, oak, honey, caramel, and yeast/oak earthiness on the finish for a while. Fantastic complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast, oak barrel, and moderate candi sugar malt flavors; with a great malt/oak/yeast spiciness balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very smooth and lightly slick/sticky mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light-moderate warmth lingering after the finish. Overall this is an awesome partial barrel aged pale quadrupel style. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast. oak barrel, and moderate candi sugar malt flavors; and vary smooth to sip on for the big ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Photo of yesterdayfaraway
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Light Amber color, white head fades fast. Smells sweet Belgian yeast. The taste is defenately Belgian, it's sweet. It's very thin but the flavors do coat my mouth well.

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Photo of Franziskaner
4.07/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Copper color with a haziness from the barrel aging. There's a fingernail of off white surrounding the rim and covering the majority of the top of the beer. Aroma is a complicated blend of pomegranate, oak, whiskey, and pinot noir. I was feeling good about guessing pinot noir as I did double check the Deschutes website. I'm not a wine guy and my guess is that had it been madeira or malbec I would have been hosed. The flavor is much more subtle than anticipated. The pomegranate gives the body a very light, crisp feel. It's remarkably smooth for the strength. The pinot noir notes are detectable. I get some warming sweetness from the whiskey barrels and oak provides dryness. Bravo!

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Photo of Prasm
3.65/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Smells of bread dough and yeast with hints of whiskey. Thick creamy mouth-feel, taste is dominated by yeasty characteristics turns freakishly sweet through the mid-palate with some licorice notes. Not bad, but borderline over the top with the yeast flavors.

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Photo of Wobbly
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Solid attempt at the classic Belgian style. In my opinion, very few American brewers ever learn to master this style. This is by no means as good as the Belgian originals, but still worth the effort. To date, the best American made Quads I have had are from Boulevard and Ommegang. Unibroue (Canada) is also solid with this and similar styles.

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Photo of BCraig
3.58/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Poured from bomber bottle into a nonic pint glass. Light copper color with a one inch white-tan head that quickly dissipates.

S - banana, clove, malt aromas, sour fruit, toffee, some oak as expected

T - caramel, toffee malt flavor with fruit tang/sour, warming alcohol sensation

M- Medium bodied, high carbonation

O - The fruit notes open up more as the Quad warmed; I wanted more Pom flavor and more from the aging barrels, but a good exploration of an enhanced quad. I'm curious about "not the Stoic" that seems to almost be more popular.

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Photo of Jjski
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Interesting white wine and oak notes abound. I don't get a lot of rye whiskey but maybe that's the tartness and bite.

Little quad character in look or taste. More of an orange scented ale with Belgian yeast and white wine.

I liked NOT the Stoic a bunch more. Bought more of NOT, but won't get anymore of this

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Photo of stevoj
3.96/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

On tap at Albertsons. Pours out a medium golden with red tinge. Aroma is pit fruit, prunes. Taste comes on strong with fruit sweetness, sugar and a copious amount of alcohol warmth. Body seems a bit light, but flavor makes up for that shortcoming.

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Photo of jds16
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Honey colored, which Ive heard bothers some people, but looks tempting. White head with big bubbles doesn't last long, and that turns out to be the only thing that disappointed me. Aromas of honey, cherries, vanilla, grapes dominate the nose with a hint of spice. I taste peaches, honey, grapes, vanilla, oak, caramel, cloves, and just a hint of whiskey. Mesium-full body, but goes down dangerously easily.
If you want this beer to be just like the big-name Belgian quads (e.g. Abt 12) you'll be disappointed. If you're willing to let it just be itself, I think this is a phenomenal beer.

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The Stoic from Deschutes Brewery
3.81 out of 5 based on 793 ratings.
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