Seventeen | Central Waters Brewing Co.

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Central Waters Brewing Co.
Wisconsin, United States
centralwaters.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
17th Anniversary Barrel Aged Stout

Added by halo3one on 12-29-2014

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
62
Ratings:
682
pDev:
5.76%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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Reviews by ncketchum:
Photo of ncketchum
4.73/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Lots of bourbon in the nose. Taste is barrel heavy as well, a little heat, tons of chocolate with some coffee in the finish. None of the thinness like with the other CW stuff. Excellent, will get amazing with a year.

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Photo of Stevedore
4.33/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Central Waters' 17th Anniversary Party.

A- Dark black body, opaque. Leaves a bit of an oily sheen on the glass. Nice one finger mocha collar and lacing. For the most part, looks quite silky and smooth for a stout.

S- Rich bourbon, oak. Not as clean as Sixteen was, but definitely brings more oak and roasted barley malt than its predecessor did. Good amount of chocolate, some cocoa rounds things out. Not a ton of complexity but very smooth.

F- Rich chocolate flavours abound in the beginning; taken over by smoky, slightly hot bourbon flavours and oak tannins; more roast and bitter malt; not quite coffee in character but more of a smoky type of bitterness, on the finish. It is certainly more bitter than Sixteen was- but in a way it offers more complexity and a different experience.

M- Medium-thick mouthfeel, no thinness at all. Rich bourbon flavours remain on the palate, a bit stinging and a bit warm, but nothing I would call hot or fusel. Good carbonation on tap, smooth and rich, moderately bitter finish.

O- It's a very tasty BA imperial stout; certainly offers more bitterness and complexity than Sixteen did. However, it seems a bit more like any other BA stout. Sixteen was almost unique in how decadently chocolate-forward it was with the bourbon aromas complementing it perfectly. Here, Seventeen is a big blend of chocolate, bitterness, and bourbon that is blended well and quite tasty; but in all honesty it seems a bit messy in comparison to its older brother. I anticipate the bottles to do very well with some time on them- to allow the bitterness to meld in a bit better with the rest of the components.

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Photo of akrz47
4.85/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

So I judged each category on its own, and this is what it came up with. I do this for all beers. Surprised me it turned out so high. But on second thought, not that surprising. It is supremely great, and actually not that hard to get. Definitely trade for it!

On to the review...

Appearance: Perfect! Thick, dark dark brown body, starts with a big head and dwindles down to a thin foam that lasts FOREVER. Nice. Best lasting head of any stout I've had, honestly. Just constantly looks...appealing.

Smell: So complex. Hard to pick out at first. Biggest aroma is chocolate. Chocolate, chocolate, choklat. Next is vanilla. Big vanilla here. Then nice oak and booze, blended with coconut, which are all melded perfectly. The more it warms, the more the booze come out, though. But I let it warm to room temp, a little too much. Anyway, then we get some molasses, caramel, nuts...a little licorice , definitely. Very nice smell.

Taste: Well...so chocolatey! Nice! More chocolatey than BCBS, and less coconutty, but I'd say otherwise it tastes very similar and is of the exact same quality. I like the chocolate flavor and not the coconut so much, honestly, so I think I actually like this better than BCBS '14. Took me 3 bombers (not all at once!) to realize this, but I believe it is true after several side-by-side comparisons. Very high quality beer. Wisconsin beers are pretty underrated overall tbh, but that's a subject for another time :)

Feel: Well, perfect. Very thick and slick. More thick than most similar ABV beers. Similar to BCBS thickness.

Overall: I can't stop loving this. Had three in my time, and every time it impresses me more. Get this, trade for this, it's not hard. It will make your day if you like BBA stouts, and if you don't like them yet, this will change your mind.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.48/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Huge thanks to Duff27 for the bottle!

Served cold into a tulip and allowed to warm over the course of consumption.

BOTTLE: Great label art. Black pry-off cap.

Expectations are high given the brewery; these cats always do great barrel aging.

Reviewed live as an imperial stout per the label.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: None. Just a khaki colour ring. No lacing.

BODY: Opaque dark black. No yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible.

Appears well-carbonated. Not a great-looking stout.

AROMA: Bourbon barrel is a bit assertive, seemingly overwhelming the base. A hodgepodge of vanilla, bourbon soaked wood, and a kiss of toastiness. It's not the rich bourbon profile I've come to expect from Central Waters. The base seems comparatively inexpressive, bringing only chocolate malts and dark malts to the table, along with cream.

Suggests a beer in which the bourbon barrel overwhelms the base instead of accentuating it.

Aromatic intensity is mild.

No overt hops or yeast character is detectable, nor is any booze.

TASTE: The vanilla is lovely, but honestly the rest of the build is a bit forgettable. The bourbon barrel isn't even that expressive - some oak, sure, but no real toastiness or rich barrel sugars. The base beer is shockingly plain - some dark malts, chocolate malts, and cream - but that's it. Lacks any added intricacy; there's no coffee, vanilla bean, milk chocolate, et al. Pretty basic for a bourbon barrel aged stout. The barrel does overwhelm the base, but then the base doesn't bring much to the table. Balance is middling.

Not gestalt. Average depth of flavour. Average duration of flavour. Low intensity of flavour for the style.

I just want something more than this no-frills build. Some roasted barley, marshmallow, burnt sugars, more of a bourbon presence...something. I'd stop short of calling it bland, but it does have a plain flavour profile and leaves much to be desired in terms of complexity, subtlety, and depth.

TEXTURE: Smooth and wet. Slightly overcarbonated. Medium-bodied. Adequately thick. Creamy. Could be softer, but it's comforting on the palate. Unrefreshing (to style).

There's no harmony of texture to taste. Its smoothness does help highlight the vanilla - which is the best aspect of this beer.

OVERALL: I've adored the other Central Waters bourbon barrel aged beers I've had, but this offering is oddly lacking. A disappointment, but still a nice brew. I wouldn't go out of my way to find another bottle. Honestly, Central Waters' more widely available bourbon beers are preferable. Won't excite or impress the discerning drinker. But it's drinkable, sure, a sipper though it may be - and it does hide its ABV well.

Don't sit on bottles of this if you've got 'em. Drink now.

High B- (3.48)

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Photo of guityler83
4.72/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

A: Seventeen poured into a CW snifter on a cold February night - a beautiful thing - formed a discreet finger tall head. The foam contrived of tiny bubbles, chocolate milk like color and appearance, persisted for a minute before diminishing to a whisper on top of the beer and around the edge of the glass. The beer is midnight black with no signs of light. Agitation formed medium alcohol legs and a few spots of lacing on the side of the glass.

S: Bright bourbon character leaps from the glass. Oak and vanilla wood character is pleasant and sits just under the bourbon. A slight fruity (fruit roll-ups, cherry candy) sweetness that evolves into a candy raisin and prune malt character. Milk chocolate and semi-sweet chocolate chips at mild levels. Alcohol is apparent but mellow and not sharp or offensive.

T: Big bourbon character right off the gate. Dark chocolate, sweet caramel, toffee and raisins. Vanilla, tobacco and slight coffee notes from roasted malts. Middle of the taste comes the mellower chocolate flavors with sweet milk chocolate, cocoa and dark bakers chocolate. After taste is bourbon sweetness with caramel and milk chocolate. Balance is on the side of the bourbon and sweetness is moderate.

M: Mild carbonation with a medium alcohol warming in the chest. Also the bourbon / boozy tingling sensation is prominent in the cheeks and tongue (I enjoy it). Mild astringency that leaves the mouth a little dry with tannins . Body is big and viscous - without the bourbon probably too much, with the bourbon it cuts through nicely.

O: CW does what it does best. I need to try 16 side by side with 17 (which thankfully is possible) to compare, but If memory servers 17 had more bourbon and came off a little hotter then 16. The balance of chocolate to caramel malts also seemed slightly different. From memory I’m going to say I preferred 16, but I’ll alter this once that is tested.

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Photo of KellyScottMad
5/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

OMG!!! This is by far the best Imperial Stout in the world. No Joke. I have had my fair share of them, and once I tasted this I knew something was different. WoW! That is all I can say. Just WOW! You have to have one of these if you are a fan of the stouts. Have too!!!

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Photo of t2grogan
4.75/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of SkiBum22
4.69/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Photo of joemetric
4.66/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Ben7773
4.92/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Photo of lateralundertow
4.74/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of NWer
4.75/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of SD-Alefan
4.78/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Pours a deep, dark black with a thin dark tan head and some appealing lace along the glass.
The aroma features plenty of bourbon as well as dark chocolate, roast coffee, vanilla, and dark dried fruits.
Taste is phenomenal. Lots of bitter dark chocolate, booze, bourbon and oak with a nice, lingering bitter finish. As it warms, even more dark chocolate and a hint of figs and raisins.
Mouthfeel is smooth, thick and creamy. Luscious.
Just an outstanding stout, beautifully crafted and blended. So glad I have a few in my cellar!

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Photo of DaftPatrick
4.66/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of bohler06
4.81/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of tvenne
4.75/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of StoutFox
4.22/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of 77apm
4.48/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of mmcurran
4.74/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Photo of Chris_Panos
4.44/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of fenlop54
4.38/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A little bozziness to it at the moment. I was a fan of 16 a little more at first. This one might have to sit for awhile.

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Photo of Prospero
4.78/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of gibgink
4.24/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of MicroBeerMan1980
4.5/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of lawsonciv
4.71/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

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Seventeen from Central Waters Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 4.51 out of 5 with 682 ratings