Peruvian Morning | Central Waters Brewing Co.

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Brewed by:
Central Waters Brewing Co.
Wisconsin, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
2012 Release: Recalled due to infection
2013 Release: Recalled (at least in part) due to infection
2014 Release: Recalled due to infection
2015 Tap only release

Added by brdc on 01-29-2008

BEER STATS
Reviews:
456
Ratings:
1,444
Avg:
4.11
pDev:
12.65%
 
 
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Photo of Beginner2
3.81/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

That's scary.
All that infection stuff posted above. I cellared this for two years. I got very eager.
But, maybe this infection explains the off after-taste. Too bad because the initial aroma was arresting and the attack was interesting.
Too bad.
All that alcohol gone to waste.

I've heard of this infection happening to small brewers. Maybe the experimentation has gotten too wild.
Hopefully, the infections stay rare.

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Photo of rodbeermunch
4.12/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Talk about the unluckiest beer of all time. 3 straight years of infection. Has this ever happened before? Ashame, because its a damn good beer.

Came in with a substantially dark brown appearance, lighter brown 3/5" head. Dropped tons of coffee, lesser vanilla and oak in the aroma.

Alcohol well hidden, coffee pops, thick black patent malt, chocolate malt reigns supreme with a hefty dose of 2 row as well. Not overly bitter, the caramel and vanilla notes do really good in that region.

When this beer isn't compromised, its top notch, scores would be even higher. Thankfully, the one bottle I had was just a little bit of tart coffee. Never age these!

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Photo of mrk829
3.78/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Tried to do a vertical with a 2012, 2013, and a 2015 BCBCS. The 2012 was infected, but the 2013 was good. Coffee was gone body still a solid beer. I've had the 3012, 2013 ones before and remember them being good but never made notes and didn't rate or review them

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Photo of soze47
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Looks good in the glass - spotty lacing after not much head in a gentle pour - it belies its viscousness.

Smell is strong on bourbon and a bit one note. Hints of coffee, smoke, and dark chocolate, but the bourbon carries the nose.

Taste is much more balanced. All those same flavors come in waves - first is a burst of cold press coffee followed by a slight balancing sweetness. Bourbon then lays down as the lingering flavor.

Mouthfeel does its job, but it could have a bit more creaminess to it to allow the flavors a softer approach and lessen the slickness.

Very good beer that is on the border of being truly great.

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Photo of drpimento
3.36/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Came across a 2011 bottle of this. Poured with a small, short lived, fizzy head, no lace. Aroma is coffee, whiskey, black malt, tang. Flavor's very similar to nose with coffee surprisingly standing out as being still fresh tasting, strong tang as well as whiskey. Body seems a little thin. Kind of seems like it might be on the verge of turning.

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Photo of garymuchow
4.26/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at Lone Oak Grill.
This was very good. Not much of a head and what was there settled out nearly completely.
A nice smooth vanilla in both the aroma and taste with the bourbon taste more blended with a mildly rich roast with an apparent coffee flavor. All blended very nicely. Smooth and soft feel with a moderate feel.
This was enjoyable.

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Photo of dustinxmatos
4.62/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

So good. Overall I feel that it is an incredibly accurate BCBS clone if anything, but the more subdued alcohol content makes it it's own thing. Delicious brew and we'll worth chasing after. I'ma enjoy a second, cheers!

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Photo of stephens101
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Impenetrable blackness topped with a thin tan froth.

Smell is complex with coffee beans, dark chocolate, raisin, black licorice and burnt sugar.

Silky smooth to the tongue with waves of caramel and dark chocolate followed by a hint of espresso and herbal goodness at fruition.

Any noticeable alcohol heat is wrapped in pure goodness. A little bourbon is noticed quite late.

Fine dining without the fancy clothes is what I'm talking about.

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Photo of DoubleSimcoe
3.99/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A good coffee barrel stout, but not up there with Sunday Morning or Bourbon County. A little thin; great coffee-forward aroma and a nice touch of sourness. Glad it wasn't inffected. Would revisit, great drinkability too.

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Photo of tjk135
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

The smell of this beer is outstanding, however the bottle was infected and the taste was on the sour side. Would love to try the newer batch on tap as I sense there is an excellent brew behind the infection.

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Photo of kkleu357
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

From notes on 3/5/14

Dark pour. Kind of looks like Coke. Bourbony coffee smell. You can tell just by the aroma this is a Central Waters beer. Must be the barrels. Tastes great. Great chocolaty toasty flavors. Very sweet. Nice touch of bourbon. A little tangy on the tip of tongue. The tangyness isn’t to pronounced. Have had 4 bottles so far and all have been fine. Will probably drink the remaining 4 soon because I hear the tangy taste will eventually sour the beer. I like this beer a lot. Would hate to see it retired, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see on the future status of it.

The other 4 did go bad, but CW refunded the money so I am still happy.

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Photo of Phelps
3.02/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Bottle into Lost Abbey stemware.

Like mixed paint, dark yet thin. One finger of fuzzy latte-colored head lays atop like a fleece blanket.

Smells like mocha of the highest quality. Crumbly cocoa, espresso, vanilla, graham cracker.

Tangy. Has this gone sour? Coffee bitterness quickly becomes sour dark cherries. Mocha and oak can be picked up, but the tartness is overpowering. It's not totally bad, but it definitely doesn't belong.

The fleece blanket descriptor I used before might be better here. The body is smooth and creamy, the fizz moderate and tingly.

Wish the sour stuff wasn't here -- I'm sure this is a great beer when fresh.

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Photo of buschbeer
4.09/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

12 FLUID OZ bottle
Served in a snifter
2013

A - It pour black with less than an inch of mocha head. There is some lacing.

S - The coffee was noticeable immediately. After some warming the bourbon begins to come through with caramel and vanilla.

T - The taste follows the same path. Initially, it was coffee. Approaching room temperature released the bourbon flavors. The coffee faded to the background while caramel and bourbon replaced it. A lingering bourbon aftertaste was the final result.

M - Smooth and full with low carbonation.

O - I haven't been this worried about an infection since that time I hooked up with a chick in the parking lot of a Red Roof Inn. Luckily, both instances were infection free. This is an excellent coffee stout, but the infection rumors had me apprehensive. I am enjoying this beer very much on a borderline chilly Independence Day eve.

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Photo of BMMillsy
3.66/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2013 bottle as an extra in trade. Pours black with a one finger dark khaki head. Aroma of chocolate, some coffee, vanilla oak, bourbon. Flavor is bourbon heavy though not boozy, barely any coffee, light chocolate, nice vanilla finish. Bit of a Jack and Coke flavor going on here, supplemented by the lack of body. Body is on the thin side with medium carbonation. Overall a nice flavor but seems to need a good bit more body. Doesn't seem like this one is infected so that's good! Not bad but I don't think I'll seek this one out again.

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Photo of xseanprimex
3.53/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got a couple bottles in a trade. I popped one and is infected. That aside, the color is beautiful for the style. The aroma is all coffee. Really enjoyed looking at and smelling this brew. No doubt about infection. Pretty damn sour in a bad way. Still pulled coffee in the flavor. Hoping the next bottle isn't bad. Plan to edit if it isn't.

Edit for second attempt. The fact that knew what I was getting myself into helps some. The sour flavor is not so off-putting as I originally described. Mixing with the obvious bourbon and coffee rounds it out. Even if this had been an intentional characteristic it wouldn't be grabbing high marks for taste.

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Photo of Davepoolesque
4.11/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Did a mini vert 2012 and 2013. Throwing caution to the wind with noted infection issues.

A: Both poured a very dark brown, with a good amount of white head.
S: 2012 initially smelled like straight up coffee and bourbon. 2013 smelled like a milk chocolate bomb.
T: 2012, yes, it was infected. It wasn't terrible though. It tasted almost like their BB Cherry Stout with that slight tang. Big bourbon flavor. 2013 tasted exactly like it smelled, all milk chocolate. As it warmed, lots of bourbon was coming to the forefront.
M: As with most Midwestern BB stouts(except BCBS), the body was on the thin side. Good carbonation pushed the flavors around my mouth.
O: Even though the 2012 was infected, it was still enjoyable. I found I was actually gravitating to it more when I need to take a break from the bourbon heavy 2013. To me, this is another BB stout from the Midwest along the lines of Blackout, Black Note and BA Siberian. I wonder if they use the same barrels.

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Photo of Resuin
3.99/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 ounce bottle into a snifter. This is a 2014 vintage.

Appearance: Pours very dark brown/nearly black and leaves a finger of dark tan/light brown head, which fades to a layer around the glass.

Smell: Big, roasty coffee beans up front, roasted malts, light fudge. Nice balanced aroma with some big flavors.

Taste: A bit of vinous, slightly sour flavor upfront, along with coffee beans, some dark chocolate, oak, malts. The sour doesn't help the flavor, but rather nearly dominates it.

Mouth-feel: Medium carbonation with a medium, creamy body. Finishes smooth, a bit sour.

Overall: Definitely a nice, coffee stout, but the sour in the taste is a bit offputting. It doesn't completely dominate the taste but does give it a twist. Still, a nice stout.

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Photo of Stevedore
3.94/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(FYI: My system only scores in whole numbers)

12oz bottle of 2013 vintage poured into a tumbler today, 1/26/2013.

Aroma- Vanilla and coconut really jumps out in the nose. There are hints of oak, black coffee and burnt toast, but the vanilla and coconut combination is incredibly strong. Very pleasing nose. (4)

Colour- Very dark cola, could be mistaken for jet black but holding it up to the light shows a very dark brown colour characteristic. Pours with a 1cm offwhite head, dissipates very quickly, nothing special. The lacing sticks in sporadic spots. Pretty standard for a double stout. (3)

Flavour- Follows the nose pretty well. Vanilla dominates throughout, with not-so-subtle hints of black coffee. There is a heavy roasted malt presence typical of stouts that impart a good chunk of chocolate and toffee- without it, I'd probably swear I was drinking spiked black coffee. Very complex and tasty- it beats a lot of the coffee stouts I've tried thus far.. and I'm a big coffee drinker. It's not quite BCBCS or KBS though. (4)

Mouthfeel- I guess I was comparing this to the BBS, but in comparison this actually boasts a thicker medium body with good carbonation for the style (BA double stouts typically don't come highly carbonated in my experience anyway). In the mouth, it feels somewhat creamy and very smooth- the best part of bourbon barrel aging. The aftertaste is black coffee with vanilla infused into it. Very good but still a bit watery. (4)

Overall- I'm much more impressed with this one than I was with the BBS. They did this one much better although I never got around to trying the 2012 vintage. Something tells me that this brew is probably best fresh, but I'll save 2 bottles from this 4-banger to drink a year from now. I'm actually thinking about finishing this 4-banger and going out and buying another one to cellar. It's very good and reasonably priced compared to BCBCS, but not quite at the level that BCBCS is. However, if you're not looking for pure motor oil but rather prefer a lighter brew (at 8.5% vs BCBCS' 15%) that delivers a similar boatload of complex flavors, this is a very good choice. (4)

Re-review: Had the 2014 vintage, poured into a Surly Darkness goblet today, 2/28/2014. So... not going to lie, this is clearly contaminated. I got no coffee, though I did get a bit of oak, vanilla and bourbon. But the mouthfeel is thinner than expected even for the base stout and there is a tangy fruitiness to this that reminds me of green apples. Simply not a good beer and I decided it wasn't worth finishing. I'm leaving the scores the same as it was from last year's vintage which was delicious.

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Photo of JayCheG
4.53/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Pour a solid, deep black with a one finger tan head that quickly dissipates to a ring around the glass. Not much in terms of lacing.
S: Yum, nice mix of bourbon and vanilla up front. Hints of coffee and chocolate.
T: I love how Central Waters blends their beers. They could put this in a bar form and sell it as candy! Lots of bourbon, coffee and vanilla very well blended. Hints of chocolate.
M: Slightly lighter body then a lot of other stouts but it works
O: Delicious, lots of flavors and mighty sweet. Central Waters knows how to do this kind of beer.

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Photo of Ri0
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

poured 12oz bottle into chalice. 2014 vintage

A - Very dark murky brown with a 1 finger light tan head. Fades quickly into a very thin ring and leaves behind small spotty lacing.

S - Notes of coffee and bourbon with some chocolate stout aroma.

T - Soft notes of coffee, bourbon, and caramel layered on top of a delicious dark chocolate stout. The coffee and bourbon seem to have some tangy flavors that grows over time. I feel this is why it starts to have a tartness to it after some months. There is also some wood on the finish.

M - Not as smooth as it could be. It is pretty good, but it should be velvety. I'm not concerned by the medium light body, but it prickles the tongue. Carbonation is decent for the style.

O - A winter treat that is fun and easy to drink. I do not age this as it begins to turn tart over time. Enjoy it fresh for maximum flavor.

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Photo of don1481
4.56/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

2014 Vintage poured into pint glass. Good God, I hope I do not get sick from a third straight year of infected.

Appearance: Pours a deep, dark brown (almost black) with a beige head. No real sign of carbonation besides the head, but then again... even when I hold this up to the light, I can't see anything.

Smell: More bourbon-y up front than the barleywine, not quite as much of a hit as the bourbon barrel stout. Definitely has vanilla, chocolatey notes. Some coffee to pick up on.

Taste: Yeah, this is yummy. Smooth. Hits of vanilla, chocolate, coffee. Less of a bourbon taste than I was expecting, but it's there. The flavors melds together much more nicely than the bourbon barrel stout. Color me impressed.

Mouthfeel: Very clean. Heavier bodied than the barleywine or the bourbon barrel stout. No residue at all left behind.

Overall: Dangerously drinkable. I'm gonna cellar this as well and check on it next year. Provided, of course, these aren't infected and recalled.

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Photo of JerUrbans
4.26/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

This is a 2013, I aged for 1 year.

Very dark brown nice tan head, did not see a single bubble come up after pour. Smell of chocolate and light bourbon. Wow the flavors have blended so well. This beer is way better with some age on it. Drank one fresh last year and bourbon flavors were way over the top. I taste chocolate, bourbon, a little bitterness from the roast, and nice smooth vanilla finish. Mouthfeel is surprisingly thick, compared with other Central Water stout which tend to be on the thinner side. Nice and smooth.

Overall, this is a beer for ageing. I have two more bottles form 2013 vintage and I will drink one as a two year, and one as a three year. This is coming very soon to my local and I will be buying a case to age.

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Photo of deadonhisfeet
4.27/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a bottle into a Bruery snifter. The pour is dark and opaque with about a finger of light, frothy, short-lived foam. The nose is surprising. I expected coffee and got something very reminiscent of CW BB Stout. It's rich and malty with mild roasty notes, with hints of vanilla, oak, and candied fruit.

Nice full body, firm feel, and rich flavor. It tastes a lot like their CW BB Stout. I do get some coffee notes, but not as much as I expected. The coffee is not out in front. It is subdued and masked by malt, dark chocolate, oak, vanilla, and a hint of bourbon. There are no objectionable flavors or qualities and the beer (like the BB Stout) is very pleasant to drink. It is smooth and silky with no aggressive flavors. On the finish, I get hints of bourbon, mild alcohol warmth, and a little vanilla and sarsaparilla.

An excellent beer, but frankly a little bit of a let-down since I expected more of a coffee presence in this beer. I had to trade for this, so it's possible that the coffee is much stronger when it's fresh. I would definitely try this again some time if I can score some more in the future.

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Photo of gueuzedreg
3.89/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

2010 bottle into a CS snifter. My knock on CW is how thin their BA stouts are. I think I am going to lift my foot off of the pedal on trying to get them from here on out.

A- Transparent around the rim. Medium brown, with minor/medium lacing around the rim.

S- Chocolate, bourbon is faint, but the beer smell pretty good. Malt, toffee and dark fruits in the background.

T- Mild bourbon, pretty watery. Some chocolate. Some malty taste.

M- Waaay to thin for my liking.

O- It was ok.

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Photo of NeedBeerHere
4.63/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours out dark as night with a one finger head that is a dark beige or light brown. Smell is a tiny bit of vanilla, definitely some coffee, dark fruits, and no hop presence that I can smell at all. Taste is a little bit of bourbon, some decent coffee, vanilla, and the obvious dark fruits. Not sure if this is an old six pack as it isn't as coffee forward as this beer usually is. Mouthfeel is pretty nice and thick. It's no BCBS but it is thicker than most. Overall this is a great beer. I know it's better fresh. This must be an old six pack.

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Peruvian Morning from Central Waters Brewing Co.
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