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Brewed by:
Central Waters Brewing Co.
Wisconsin, United States
centralwaters.com

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.05%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
De Kleine Dood is a Belgian inspired Weissenbock brewed as a collaboration between The Local Option and Central Waters Brewery in Amherst, Wisconsin. Originally released in summer 2012, De Kleine Dood will be available in spring 2013 on draft and in large format bottles.

When Central Waters decided to open its brew house for its first collaboration beer, Chicago’s Local Option was the obvious partner in crime. The resulting brainchild, De Kleine Dood - a Belgian inspired Weissenbock – maintains the traditional characteristics of its Bavarian forbearer, with the added complexity of Belgian ale yeast. De Kleine Dood is dark amber in color; maintains a rich, full-bodied mouth-feel augmented by caramel; mild and dark fruit; and vanilla and bourbon aromas as a result of six months of aging on Heaven Hill Barrels.. Rounded out by an unostentatious bourbon driven aroma from brief bourbon barrel aging, De Kleine Dood is a complex ale, a marriage of distinctive styles, and an orgasmic experience for the taste buds that revel in its glory.

Added by MasterSki on 05-25-2012

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Photo of gcasher
3.79/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours like root beer. Smells sweet. The bourbon taste dominates, but is very nice. There is a sweet malt backbone. There is also a delicate herbal yeasty fkavor.

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Photo of yesterdayfaraway
3.71/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

L: pours rusty brown with no head. Pretty dark in the glass though
S: bourbon, brown sugar sweetness, toffee but medicinal
T: tastes like bourbon ba barleywine. Sweet caramel, nice bourbon. The beer is just isn't robust, nor refined, needs some work
F: not smooth, fairly thin too.

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Photo of FriedSlug
3.98/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours a ruddy brown with tan head. The aroma is raisins, oak, booze, chocolate and vanilla. The taste is sweet, boozy, raisins, chocolate and vanilla notes. There is a bit of heat on this one but the booze is not overpowering. Pretty solid brew.

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Photo of stephens101
3.95/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Dark brown with two-fingers of compact tan froth. Smell is complex with bold notes of caramel, brown sugar, and plum followed by less prominent prune juice and charred wood. Tastes of brown bread, brown sugar, faint spice and caramel. Sweet for the most part but not cloying or unbalanced. Medium and syrupy in parts. A slight, tingly alcohol burn as it goes. Not as good as the real thing, but pretty damn enjoyable nevertheless.

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Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours crystal clear deep reddish brown color with a 1 finger fairly dense and fluffy khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light spotty lacing clings on the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of big caramel, brown sugar, toffee, brown bread, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, coconut, pepper, and clove; with lighter notes of raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, milk chocolate, cocoa, banana, and yeast/oak/toasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, bourbon barrel, and light-moderate fruity/spicy yeast notes; with great strength. Taste of big caramel, brown sugar, toffee, brown bread, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, coconut, pepper, and clove; with lighter notes of raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, milk chocolate, cocoa, banana, and yeast/oak/toasted earthiness. Light-moderate yeast and bourbon/oak spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, brown sugar, toffee, brown bread, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, coconut, pepper, clove, light dark fruit/chocolate, and oak/toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt, bourbon barrel, and light-moderate fruity/spicy yeast flavors; with a great malt, yeast, and bourbon/oak spiciness balance, and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full body; with a very smooth, moderately creamy, and lightly sticky/chalky/tannic balanced mouthfeel that is great. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warmth lingering after the finish. Overall this is an excellent BBA weizenbock. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/bready malt, bourbon barrel, and light-moderate fruity/spicy yeast flavors; very smooth and easy to sip on for the big ABV. This feels more like a doppelbock than a weizenbock due to lower yeast character; but still has great malt/barrel complexity and balance. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of StevieJoe
4.79/5  rDev +19.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Bought this beer without really knowing what to expect. The label describes it as a MALT BEVERAGE AGED IN BOURBON BARRELS. I did not see any other description to guide my initial expectation. Central Waters and Bourbon barrel aged were my purchase incentives.
When I started the pour, I was expecting this to be Pure Black and solid. Surprised by the light passing through and showing it to be a dark but not opaque brown pour. The head was thin but set up nicely.
The smell was wonderful. I love a beer that fulfills the advertised barrel aged statement from the label. I am a big fan of most bourbons and when a beer delivers that full nose of the barrel aging, it brings a warm spot and harkens back to my Kentucky visits.
I guess my palate is not tuned enough to embellish on the Belgian inspiration of the Weissenbock. I do know that I enjoyed the flavors. Although the nose was strong from the barrel aging, the flavors were extremely pleasant. Could be the Weissenbock softened and smoothed the flavors. There were definitely malty, vanilla, chocolate, coffee and caramel tones which I associate with a well aged whiskey. I picked up on some of the yeast flavors.
My lowest mark for this beer was the feel. 4.5 still not a low score. My first sip, I was not knowing for sure what I was drinking. When I had that full nose from the barrel aging, I may have been expecting more body and a longer lasting taste. I was expecting this to have a more solid and staying flavor.
I had purchased this one a few months back and had planned to share it with my son. Based on the Central Waters Production schedule, I may have missed my chance to by another or will have to wait and see when it is available again. For any fan of barrel aged beers, I do not think this one will disappoint.

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Photo of Dragginballs76
4.04/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours - Jet black with thin tan head, good lacing.

Smell - Big bourbon smell, dark chocolate, vanilla, roasted malts big boozy smell.

Taste - The bourbon is a little strong, dark chocolate and vanilla, oak and maple flavor.

Feel - Coating feel, little warming from the alcohol.

Overall - A very good beer, great flavor and smell could use a little age I think.

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Photo of Immortale25
4.21/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a teku pint. No freshness date.

A- Pours a dark brown color with a 1/2 inch tan head that retains decently before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and a mostly full sheet of sheer surface foam. Not-so-resilient lacing leaves tiny specs behind.

S- Rich bourbon aroma with a pronounced milk chocolate note. Moderate booze fume.

T- Great barrel presence with the expected vanilla notes and tannic woodiness. Very easy to drink for the ABV with additional notes of brown sugar, molasses and more milk chocolate. The weizenbock aspects are all but non-existent, also as expected since they were also absent in La Petite Morte.

M- Not as thick or creamy as I like my BBA beers but it makes sense given the style. Medium carbonation and a body leaning toward the fuller side.

O- So, upon closer examination, this seems to be pretty much identical to La Petite Morte in design. I'm not complaining, as the reason I bought this is because I liked La Petite Morte so much. Also, after having multiple offerings from Central Waters including Black Gold, I'll throw down money for anything that has their name on it anyway. But I digress: Great beer!

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Photo of BSiegs
4.37/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Extremely dark ruby and brown in color, with some tan head. Retains a ring around the glass and leaves minimal lacing. The aroma is fantastic. The rich vanilla, bourbon, and barrel hit first. Then slight banana, raisin, fig, and sweet dark malt characteristics come through. The taste follows, but the dark fruits, wheat, and malt notes are the initial taste. Then the barrel, vanilla, and bourbon notes dominate the aftertaste. This feels like it would be an easy style to overwhelm with barrel, but this balances it very well. Body is medium, with low-moderate carbonation. Extremely creamy and slight alcohol warmth on the finish. Excellent, not surprising that these two know their way around a barrel.

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Photo of bobv
4.21/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Nice, light tan head.
Slight raisin, slight toffee, slight nougat, slight bourbon on the nose.
Understated, but, it all seems to work very well together.
Taste follows the nose a bit with some chocolate as it warms. Very nice.
Creamy mouthfeel that enhances the experience even more.
Overall, I know a few people I can share this with that would really enjoy it.
I did!

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Photo of bbtkd
4.11/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Central Waters De Kleine Dood on tap, 9.05% ABV, 38 IBU, Weizenbock style. Two fingers of head, one by the time I got a decent picture. Pours thin and brown, not much lacing. This is my first Weizenbock and it was really good. Nose is bourbon, taste follows. Another taste in there I couldn't place, perhaps leather. Opens sweet, some bitterness on close but not bad. Overall, would get it again - though not my favorite Central Waters beer.

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Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: A brilliant chestnut pour with ruby highlights supports a 1” tan foam collar that recedes moderately slow.
S: Mildly roasted dark malts with some chocolate notes, mild bourbon.
T: The bourbon and chocolate are expressed more strongly on the palate than on the nose. The bourbon and chocolate and bourbon move over the tongue in layers with a mild coffee and moderate sweetness in the background.
F: Very creamy and smooth with mild warming. Medium full body with very fine soft carbonation.
O: A beer to accompany country style ribs with a coffee rub or some chocolate after dinner.

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Photo of martyl1000
3.92/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

On tap at Greenbush Bar, Madison.

I loved this a year ago. Man, has my palate changed since then. It's much too sugary and rich. Quality through-and-through, but I just can't drink the big malt bombs like I used to. The sweet bourbon absolutely pushes it over the top, for me. Not getting the "Belgian" aspect.

Pretty thin in the mouth, really the only thing sub-par, here.

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Photo of Crubbsy
4.3/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

poured from bottle to tulip glass.

Look: dark brown pour, thin head that disappeared quickly. clear, but dark.

Smell: The barrel dominates the nose. Smelling toffee notes, and for some reason, I'm detecting cherries (?).

Taste: smooth, smoky, sweet, a little sweet, whiskey flavors woven throughout. Very well rounded flavor profile.

Feel: Not much weight to this one, but it's actually refreshing to drink a barrel aged beer that isnt super thick.

Overall: Very good beer. Very well rounded beer. Was surprisingly delicious, especially considering the price.

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Photo of CoreyC
4.19/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A - Nice dark with tan head
S - Strong bourbon aroma
T - Bourbon more subtle with nice leather and malt flavors
M - Medium
O - Very nice. I'm not sure about the Weissenbock styling, but this is a nicely barrel aged beer. Would recommend it if you like BA beers.

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Photo of RMelyon
3.14/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3

Not everything should be barrel aged, and this is a good example. Or, maybe weizenbock just isn't for me and I'm not appreciating this one properly. Anyway, I poured the last half of this bottle down the drain after forcing myself to drink a glass

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Photo of seedyone
4.24/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

On tap at Rattle n Hum, NYC. A big surprise. Ok, so the 9% should have been give away as this is a serious contender in the Big Boy club. Big booze, big taste, big everything. Don't hesitate.

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Photo of whataschlitz
4.47/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours deep burgundy/brown. Not fully opaque. Light brown head faded fairly quickly.

S: Smells like barrel and toffee. Strong malt.

T: Malty. Bourbon hits the palate first, then faint coffee, and rounds out with malt and toffee.

M: Silky smooth. Very nice in that regard. Very drinkable even with the higher alcohol.

O: A tasty aged beer that benefits from the added flavor of the barrel. Delicious maltiness.

Notes: If you're in WI, check out your local Costco for bombers of this delicious beer.

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Photo of jwc215
4.22/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle - Poured into an Aventinus weizenbock glass:

Pours brown a tan head that thins. Trailing lace.

The smell is of caramel/toffee, banana/clove, bourbon, some warming alcohol.

The taste is of caramel/toffee, bourbon/wood, alcohol. Banana/clove weave in and out. Sweet. (Just good enough to bump up the score a bit).

It is smooth despite noticeable alcohol.

A unique brew. Bourbon strong but not overwhelming Alcohol shows, but not raw.

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Photo of Pahn
4.77/5  rDev +19%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

On tap at Upright Brew House in Manhattan.

Appearance: Offwhite head with good retention. If this is a weizenbock, its more Aventinus than Vitus.

Smell: Smells exactly like Central Waters Bourbon Barrel Scotch Ale; caramely oak. This is always a "count me in" experience for me.

Taste: Wow, it's like Bourbon County soaked banana bread! Genius! Just genius. Really well bourbon barrel aged moist banana bread with a little raisin thrown in as a highlight and a great mouthfeel. Come the hell on. How am I going to not order more of this?

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and creamy, low side of moderate carbonation with a nice dry finish that peps up the experience and reminds you that this is a "weizenbock" not a barleywine.

Overall: Fucking bourbon barrel aged banana bread. 5.0.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.35/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

On-draught at Rattle N Hum in NYC:

The bourbon presence is amazing, emphasizing vanilla but not overwhelming the base. Dark fruit and Caramel lend this fine ale a gooey warm presence on the palate.

Full bodied and heavy on the palate. Good carbonation.

Though it lacks the style's signature yeast esters (especially banana), it's best regarded as a beer that lies outside style conventions.

A weizenbock for the bourbon barrel imperial stout lover.

B-

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Photo of tigg924
3.92/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours opaque, black, with 1/3 inch head. Taste is dark fruit, raisins, figs, with vanilla, and bourbon at the finish. There is a bit of sourness. Tasty and complex brew. I prefer Central Waters bourbon beers more, but this is tasty.

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Photo of ThickNStout
4.4/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

22oz bottle from LambicPentameter (thanks man!). No bottling date but this has rested in my cellar for a year since I received it. Served in a Barrel and Barley teku.

Pours a deep but brilliant, nearly opaque burgundy with just under two fingers ecrue head. Once the foam subsides a full collar remains, leaving only a couple tiny splotches of lace.

Aromas of bourbon, toffee, caramel, bread and oak. Sweet and welcoming.

Flavor expounds upon that inviting nose. Bourbon, caramel, wet oak, toffee, hints of stone fruit, wheat bread, vanilla, sweet wheat malt, fruity yeast, cereal grain and a subtle booze heat. It all blends oh, so smoothly to create a delicious, enjoyable, malty sweet treat.

Creamy, medium full body with moderate carbonation. Bourbon, toffee, seared caramel and vanilla coat the tongue for a long, sweet finish.

Much to my delight, La Petite Mort combines weizenbock, Belgian yeast and bourbon barreling to produce a something very much like my favorite wheatwines. This is one of those rare collaborations that is truly outstanding and is worthy of a little effort to track down.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

From 10/17/15 notes. Big thanks to Dane for sending me out a bottle of this. 22 oz. bottle into a globe glass.

Pours a dark brown color with a reddish tint and low carbonation evident. Lots of bourbon, sweet dark fruits, toffee, caramel malts, and raisins. Medium body and low to moderate carbonation, not hot.

Overall a very nice BBA beer. Worth checking out for sure.

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Photo of ryan1788a5
3.81/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle poured into a chalice.

A: Very dark brown, nearly black. Beige head settles to a thin cap. Wispy and spotty lacing.

S: The bourbon barrel is forward with corny sweet bourbon aromas, charred wood, and chewy caramel. Faint whiffs of musty yeast, candied plum, and raisin. Bakers chocolate and chocolate wheat. Light char and whiffs of alcohol.

T: Bite of bourbon up front. Woody, chewy caramel, corny sweet bourbon. Bakers chocolate and charred malt flavors form a solid base. Plum and raisin. Yeast is fairly neutral otherwise. Pinch of black pepper. Spike of alcohol at the back. Dusty yeast and fading bakers chocolate on the finish.

M: Thick in body and big boned. The weight and heft press into the tongue very gently. Soft and a bit chewy. Creamy. Acute carbonation has a moderate prickle. Warming alcohol.

O: To be honest I don't know how you can call a beer a weizenbock if you aren't going to use the traditional German yeast. This tastes absolutely nothing like a weizenbock. Nevertheless, this is still a solid enough beer. The barrel doesn't feel fully integrated, but it isn't a nuisance either. It's really just a dry, chocolatey strong ale with some potent barrel character. Kind of fire-and-forget and on the simpler side, but likeable enough.

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