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Central Waters / Local Option De Kleine DoodCentral Waters / Local Option De Kleine Dood

Brewed by:
Central Waters Brewing Co.
Wisconsin, United States

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.05%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
De Kleine Dood is a Belgian inspired Weissenbock brewed as a collaboration between The Local Option and Central Waters Brewery in Amherst, Wisconsin. Originally released in summer 2012, De Kleine Dood will be available in spring 2013 on draft and in large format bottles.

When Central Waters decided to open its brew house for its first collaboration beer, Chicago’s Local Option was the obvious partner in crime. The resulting brainchild, De Kleine Dood - a Belgian inspired Weissenbock – maintains the traditional characteristics of its Bavarian forbearer, with the added complexity of Belgian ale yeast. De Kleine Dood is dark amber in color; maintains a rich, full-bodied mouth-feel augmented by caramel; mild and dark fruit; and vanilla and bourbon aromas as a result of six months of aging on Heaven Hill Barrels.. Rounded out by an unostentatious bourbon driven aroma from brief bourbon barrel aging, De Kleine Dood is a complex ale, a marriage of distinctive styles, and an orgasmic experience for the taste buds that revel in its glory.

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Photo of ronricorossi
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Bottle purchased from The Good Hop, the new bottle shop/tap room sprouted up in Uptown Oakland.

Two qualities I prize in beers: malty sweetness, and bourbon barrel aging. They often go hand in hand (thank god), and La Petite Mort is no exception. Is it SO good as to merit its name, which is a euphemism for "orgasm" in French? I don't know, man, I don't know. It takes some balls to call your beer "orgasm". But it's damn good.

As has been mentioned by other reviews, how often do you see a weizenbock bourbon barrel aged? Or ANY style outside porter, stout, or quad? I applaud the idea, and the sweet weizenbock flavors sit comfortably on the BBA notes, all those sweet German dark purple fruits mixing really well with the vanilla and bourbon.

Is it perfect? Nah. But it's a damn good idea, and an interesting experiment. Well worth a try.

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Photo of Bosoxfan20
3.27/5  rDev -18.5%

Dark brown bark color with fair amount of light coming through. Faint, wispy head that settles into a ring quickly. 3.5

Lots of bourbon coming through, huge baverian malts, caramel, and toasted character. You have my interest…3.75

Intense bourbon paves the way for a mix of bready, malty notes with caramel and vanilla. The darker fruit from the Belgian aspects make for an interesting twist. 3.25

Soft and creamy. Lighter body resembling the weissenbock . Low carbonation 3.5

Unique to say the least. Some of it worked, but at times it seemed off. 3.25

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Photo of avalon07
4.25/5  rDev +6%

A: Poured from a bottle to a weizen glass. Had a dark brown color and a thick consistency. There was a two inch, creamy, off white, long-lasting head. Pretty good lacing.

S: A strong aroma of bourbon, wheat, and dark fruit.

T: Tasted of light wheat notes, a lot of bourbon, dark fruit (plums?), malt, and a hint of vanilla. Not your typical weizenbock flavor, but very robust and flavorful. The wheat element takes a secondary role to the bourbon, but that's a good thing.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a sharp finish. Medium-bodied.

O: An unusual beer. How often do you hear of a German-style beer being bourbon barrel aged? very complex and definitely drinkable.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.92/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

650 mL bottle pourd into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Deep reddish brown. Khaki head. Medium collar. Faint surface wisps.

Smell - Bourbon and tons of vanilla. Sweet caramel. I may be imagining a slight bubble gummy aroma.

Taste - Bourbon is nice. Vanilla as well. Caramel gets just a touch of wheat and darker chocolate malts. Slightly fruity. Very dry, unpleasantly so.

Mouthfeel - Rough finish. Very dry and slightly boozy. Everything else works.

Overall - Flavors are nice, despite the finish. Quite a bit of barrel.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
4.52/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours a very dark brown, appearing pitch black in the glass with a fine one finger light brown head with great retention and lots of lacing. Fine aroma of bourbon, caramel, vanilla, dark malt, dark dried fruit; not getting much wheat here. What an interesting flavor! Starts very much like a bourbon stout, but it quickly becomes clear that the body of this is not dark toasted malt, but lighter wheat. There is not time for for the surprise of the lighter body to register when great bourbon and vanilla flavors beging to dominate the flavor. Finishes with more vanilla, oak and bourbon. A hint of booziness, but enough complexity to cover it. Medium bodied. A complete surprise and not like anything I've tasted before. The depth and strength of the bourbon and barrel flavors seem too much for anything but a rich malt body to cover, but this is wonderfully balanced and somehow the wheat is up to the task. Little bock character here; this seems more like an Imperial hefeweizen (never tried one, but this is what I'd imagine) on bourbon steroids. An amazing production and trying reminds me of the pleasant surprise of trying a bourbon stout for the first time. Excellent and world class. Maybe I'm a sucker for bourbon flavors, but I loved this.

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Photo of clayrock81
4.03/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured a dark brown body with one finger head that stuck around forever in lace ring form. Aroma is bourbon/boozy, dark fruits like black cherry and figs. Smooth, crisp carbonation, fuller body from yeast, also has a creaminess to it and there is some nice sweetness to beer comprised of vanilla, toffee, fig, caramel. Good balance as the dark fruits (black cherry, figs, possible raisins) balance with malty sweetness, woodiness and slight booziness. Finishes slick and easy and hides the alcohol real well. More sweet than I thought a dopple could be and really works.

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Photo of notchucknorris
3.52/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a dark caramel brown color with a quickly receding khaki colored head.

S: Lots of sweet bourbon notes right away. Caramel, vanilla and some wet oak. I'm really not getting much beyond that, though. Maybe a little bit of hazelnut.

T: Lots and lots of bourbon without really becoming too hot. Beyond that though, I'm really not getting much here at all. A little bit of toasted walnut, oak, caramel, brown sugar and just a hint of dryness, but I'm thinking that all that is from the bourbon. The mouthfeel is really, really weak. The bourbon walks all over the beer here. It's not a bad beer, but I wouldnt go for this again.

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Photo of metter98
4.16/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is hazy ver dark brown in color. It poured with a short beige colored head that died down, leaving large wisps of bubbles on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate to strong aromas of bourbon are present in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is filled with flavors of bourbon and has lots of associated vanilla.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation. No warming from the alcohol is perceptible.
O: The wheat body of this beer makes it very easy to drink for a bourbon barrel aged beer. You can't tell that the underlying beer is a weizenbock. Although the bourbon is quite strong, it doesn't burn your mouth.

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Photo of ksimons
4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-a dark chestnut with a thin layer of khaki head

S-the smell is very nice, lots of bourbon sweetness, vanilla, caramel and even a bit of chocolate

T-taste is similar to the smell, starts and finishes with a bourbon bite, with vanilla and caramel, some dark fruits, and yeast

M-medium body, medium to high carbonation, bourbon sweetness finish

Overall very strong bourbon flavor, nice medium body. Have not been disappointed by Central Waters yet.

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Photo of SportsandJorts
3.34/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Appearance: pours a dark mahogany color almost black. a finger and a half of a tan head that sticks around forever and leaves a strong sticky lacing. Completely opaque and dark

Smell: strong bourbon, mixed with vanilla and hints of toffee. some clove-like aromas along with an estery alcohol.

Taste: opens with strong tastes of bourbon, vanilla, and oak. transitions into a mess of sweetness, with toffee, dark chocolate and some dark fruit. ends with a clove taste. little to no alcohol in the taste

Mouthfeel: cloyingly sweet but also dry.

Overall: I got this thinking it might be a good base beer to let the bourbon shine and add some complexity, but to me it comes of overly sweet and a mess of similar tastes.

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Photo of tigerbeer90
4.44/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle into a Allagash chalice

A: Brown with some red when the light hits it. Some murkiness with a small off-white head

S: Bourbon...a bourbon smell like I get off a fresh Founders BB. I guess instead of stating the obvious, I will break it down to vanilla, dark fruits, and a mild tinge of alcohol which was not off-putting at all.

T: Up front I get a LOT of the bourbon taste. I really love BA beers, but I feel a slightly less amount of bourbon would help bring out the weizenbock base. I get some of the fruitiness, but I really wish there was a bit more balance there.

M: A light mouthfeel for such a bourbon forward beer. A great summertime BA beer

O: Aside from being a bit bourbon heavy, I will say I love bourbon aged beers and this is an excellent beer! This is my first from central waters and local option, and I've heard great things about Central water's barrel-aged beers and I can't wait to try more of theirs!

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Photo of akeiii
4.91/5  rDev +22.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

I love Belgium style of ales. I also love bourbon barrel aging. This is an excellent example of both. Full taste that feels good in your mouth and looks good. Good head that stays well without being excessive. I was pleasantly surprised to find a brew from a brewing company I hadn't heard of or tried that was this good. I will definitely be looking for more!

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Photo of smakawhat
4.54/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a curved wheat ale glass, because we can.

A coffee to light tan creamy head, two fingers and with some good staying power and no lacing. Settles to a half finger puck nicely and good thick collar. Body is a nice mahogany brown, thick looking with great red hues looking toward the bottom.

Fantastic nose. Hints of warm malted candy chocolate, nutty hazelnut like aromas and thick slightly boozy toffee caramel. Thick oak qualities. Slight spicy quality almost herbal as well, like a sharp tea or grass, with some mixing clove. Real nice and impressive.

Palate is real impressive. A great light feel, with a good amount of barrel aged oomph and power. Thick toffee, with spicy notes continuing on the finish, almost peppery and black. Very light quality to this almost a crisp sense of Crispy Crunch chocolate candy bar, mixed in with a nutty nougat softness. Great caramel and nut quality, as time comes there's even an almost Belgian dark raisin character to this. The mouthfeel is more unique, distinct, and impressive, as opposed to perfect, but it is stunning in it's light feel but malt thickness in contradiction.

I really wasn't sure how this would come out for a barrel aged whiskey weizenbock, but it's lightness and thick quality is astounding, with the flavors melding, and tasting unlike anything I have ever had even in this style. An extremely impressive brew.

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Photo of d5001986
3.97/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bomber poured into Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a dark, murky brown with small tan head.

S: Bourbon, caramel, vanilla, and brown sugar.

T: Bourbon, caramel, vanilla, metallic, and lightly buttery.

M: Medium body, higher carbonation. Provides a slight spicy burn. Not quite the smooth feel I get from the BA offerings.

O: I can't say I've ever disliked a BA offering from CW. Very good for the style, though I would still prefer a good BA stout or scotch ale. In the end, the price is right and absolutely worth the purchase.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.01/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A strong bourbon-barrel influence with a malty-sweet backbone ensures a masculine but whimsical taste that come together in the most enticing but unusual way. its delivery isn't exactly what's promised. It might just be better.

As its lavish sweetness layers upon the palate, waves of caramel, toffee, maple and vanilla meet that of sorghum, honey and faint chocolate- all ahead of a playful oak, fruit and spice undertow.

And as the highly complex taste rolls over the middle, it sheds its finesse banana, clove and vinous character and fixates on bourbon sweetness, wood caramels, vanillans, oak tannin and coffee. With any hop balance in far recession, the beer relies heavily on its sheer complexity and power for balance.

its lightly viscous finish makes this potent ale a sipping elixir rather than a "drinkable" ale. Meant to contend with port, sherry and madera, the taste and potency of a Petite Mort ensures a long, spicy, and savory finish that clings to the taste buds in strong dessert-like fashion.

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Photo of mjpolzin
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I already am of the opinion that Central Waters has one of the finest barrel aging program in the world. This beer did nothing to change my opinion.

I am not the biggest fan of Belgian beers so I can't say that I loved this beer. The barrel-aging flavor though that Central Waters has perfected is outstanding and seemingly turns just about any regular beer into a bourbon forward masterpiece.

La Petite Morte is very bourbon heavy and possibly masks some of the other flavors that are there but with me, that is okay. The bourbon and wood flavors are very well integrated with Central Waters beers and I haven't really come across one of their beers in which that doesn't work. Beyond that, this beer has a decent mix of candy, sugar and malts. As I said, I am not a huge fan of this style but the barrel aging of Central Waters makes this a beer that I will seek out again.

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Photo of Czequershuus
5/5  rDev +24.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Updating my rating and adding a review for the current year and new name. This beer pours a deep ruby brow with a small, innocuous head. The aroma offers up a series of sweet but balances odors - raisin, prune, sweet bread, caramel - overall it smells like the best Christmas Pudding you have ever had. The flavor offers up some of the same dark fruits, prune, dried cherry, raisin, fig, as well as clove, mace, cinnamon, nutmeg, banana, sweet autumn squash, toffee, and caramel. The mouthfeel is full but not syrupy, the sweetness it well temper by the gentle carbonation and an almost wine like acidity. Overall this continues to be one of the best barrel aged beers out there, and Central Waters proves again and again that it's barrel aging program is top notch.

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Photo of joeseppy
4.12/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle from Spring 2013
Dense murky brown pour and decent head which recedes to the edges.

The nose is a masterpiece. Aromas of brandy, vanilla, rum raisins, Belgium sugars, caramels and molasses. Very rich indeed.

Bittersweet chocolate and now distinct mellow bourbon engages the conversation calling attention to barrel characteristics of vanilla and oak. Also picking up on some clove.

Full bodied and carbonation is sufficient.

I've had a few of these and this is my last one from the "cellar". I tried a Weizenbock, Vitus to be specific, to really enjoy what Heaven Hill barrels can do for this. I think this is harsher at colder temps and come to really dig this as it warms. The bitterness is a bit much for me on the onset but generally comes into its own. Bold and audacious!

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Photo of don1481
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap here at Stubbys, poured into a goblet.

Appearance: darkish muddy Brown, no head at all. No carbonation it seems.

Smell: bourbon, vanilla, some toffee notes. Definitely a sweet smell.

Taste: a sweet taste with some bourbon notes. Not an overpowering taste that slams you in the face but a more "hey, how's it going" vibe.

Mouthfeel: yeah, really no carbonation to speak of. Goes down cleanly, with only a slight aftertaste.

Overall: good, but the barleywine and bourbon barrel stout offerings are better from CW. Both offer more complex flavors and just stand out more amongst their peers for their offerings.

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Photo of portia99
4.18/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

22oz bottle courtesy of hoppymcgee poured into a Los Gatos Brewing weizen glass.

A - Pours slightly muddy with a somewhat dark medium brown color. Two fingers of frothy tan head cap this beer of a couple of minutes and leaves light foamy lacing on the glass.

S - Thick with caramel aromas, molasses, sweet bourbon, booze, lightly vanilla'd, toffee, butterscotch.

T - Quite a bit of vanilla up front - sweet, smooth and creamy. Nice hit of bourbon comes next with a mild warmth of alcohol accompanying the flavors. Lots of sweet malty contribution with plenty of caramel and toffee in the mix. Light twang of wheat giving just a hint of tartness. A touch of grainy malt - cereal-y and bready.

M - Medium body and a foamy, somewhat low level carbonation. Fruity and a touch bubblegum'y on the finish with a lingering presence after the swallow. Mild alcoholic warmth and big sweet malt presence. Despite all of the malt, this remains pretty well balanced. Flavors blend well without any one thing taking over the entire profile.

O - Very good beer. I would say this really trends towards a barleywine in character. Mild estery components to retain some of the weizenbock character, but the bourbon barrel seems to mute these a bit and bring out more of the sweet, caramelized sugary components. Quite smooth and drinks pretty easy.

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Photo of vette2006c5r
4.12/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

La Petite Mort pours a dark brown color, almost black with a small lacing head. There is strong burbon aroma, with hints of oak. Taste has a strong bourbon, strong oakey flavor, hints of vanilla, with strong dry fruit flavors. Good flavors, good body, nice sipping beer. Overall a very nice complex beer, lots of good aged like flavors.

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Photo of RoamingGnome
4.02/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Central Waters La Petite Mort

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a CBS snifter. Served chilled...

A) This is a murky brown, with some red on the edges. A thin tan head settled quickly to a collar.

S) The aroma is of bourbon, but not so boozy as to overpower a nice brown sugar/vanilla sweetness.

T) Near the nose... Yep, barrel aged... Oaky and bourbon flavors. A bit of dark fruit. Vanilla and brown sugar. I enjoyed the sweetness. There was some heat on the finish.

M) Medium body with lighter carbonation. Pretty smooth, up to a bit of lingering boozy finish.

O) Glad I tucked this one away for a little bit. It was quite enjoyable. I didn't really pick up much in the way of Belgian characteristics, but I liked what was going on here.

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Photo of falloutsnow
2.36/5  rDev -41.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

From: Binny's, Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle
Glass: Ayinger Celebrator doppelbock glass

Hooray, another bourbon barrel beer that tastes pretty much like every other bourbon barrel beer (like bourbon and ethanol). Between the fairly intense (that is, obvious and cloying) ethanol and bourbon, there isn't much that La Petite Mort offers, perhaps a bit of brown sugar, cocoa, and dried dates. The latter can be found in any more malty beer, though, and don't make La Petite Mort original or interesting. I wouldn't seek this out again.

Pours a 2cm tall head of tan-brown colored foam, made up of small-sized bubbles, yielding a frothy appearance that lasts only briefly, retention being about forty-five seconds. Head fades to a thin ring around the perimeter of the glass and a few medium-sized islands of thin residual foam resting atop the body. Lacing is fairly minimal, a few small spots cling to the insides of the glass. Body is a dark amber brown color, with light bringing out slightly orange-brown hues around the edges of the glass.

Aroma is of bourbon and ethanol, with quite subdued cocoa and brown sugar: uh-oh, this is going to be fairly one-dimensional.

Overall flavor of ethanol and bourbon, with a dark malt sweetness well-tucked away in the background. Front of palate finds a generic dark malt sweetness mixed with light bourbon, cocoa, and spicy ethanol. Mid-palate of bourbon, hot and spicy ethanol, slight cocoa, brown sugar, dried dates, and maple. Back of palate is of spicy and hot ethanol, with very mild caramel and cocoa peeking through occasionally. Aftertaste of hot and spicy ethanol, residual bourbon, and slight caramel.

Beer is medium bodied, with medium-low carbonation intensity, resulting in a beer that is mostly foamy (4/5) and slightly smooth (1/5). Ethanol is easily felt as heat in the nostrils and burn on the back of the throat, not well-hidden or pleasant. Closes dry and somewhat astringent, with heavy sweetness lingering on the palate.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.96/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeff for this one. 22oz. bomber into a Brooklyn Brewery snifter. Shared with schen9303.

Pours a 2 finger fine light cream head with good retention. Beer is dark, almost opaque brown. Lacing is thick and layered with good stick. Really good.

Nose is deep and robust. Hazelnut, brown sugar, plum and syrup. Sweet booze lingers in the background but isn't overwhelming. Balanced. Nice.

Opens hazelnut shell, caramel, and brown sugar. Grainy and boozy. Sweet maple syrup and molasses in the middle. Nutty at the end with hints of sweet bourbon. Finishes molasses and booze. Aftertaste of shell and plum. Pretty good.

Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth and silky in the mouth and goes down warm and rich. Finishes messy with a sticky, lingering aftertaste. Excellent.

Surprisingly, the lighter body of this style holds the bourbon presence very well. An interesting beer that's certainly worth trying.

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Photo of Rutager
3.79/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Thanks Steasy66!

Appearance. Pours a murky dark brown with a finger of light khaki head.

Smell. Sweet bourbon and caramel with a bit of barrel wood and brown sugar.

Taste. Bourbon and toffee, burnt sugar, some light barrel wood and vanilla, maybe a bit of grassy hops.

Mouthfeel. Full body, medium-low carbonation.

Overall. Not a ton going on in this one but it's pleasant enough.

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