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Heliocentric Bragot | Two Brothers Brewing Company

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company
Illinois, United States | website

Style: Braggot

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by emerge077 on 08-02-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Reviews:
39
Ratings:
55
Avg:
3.38
pDev:
15.68%
 
 
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Reviews: 39 | Ratings: 55
Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.47/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a clear, orange-yellow body with a thin, white head.

Smell: Nose reminiscient of a tall can of Camo High Gravity with only minor honey notes.

Taste: Sweet, honeyish taste with a blending of Steel Reserve and Evil Eye that lasts until the finish. Well, I can't exactly say that was pleasant.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Tongue-coating mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Nothing to bragot about.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
2.96/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Heliocentric would look more heliocentric (sun-centered) if it was bright gold rather than bright tangerine orange. The perfectly pristine liquid is topped by two fingers of yellowish ivory foam that looks attractive enough and is beginning to lay down thin, tattered sheets of lace.

Sorry to say, the aroma is pretty close to AWOL. Multiple sniffs deliver nothing more than pale malt (I guess) and the vaguest hint of musky fruitiness. Shouldn't a braggot smell like honey? If not, shouldn't it smell like... something? To be fair, a wee whiff of honey arrives eventually.

At least there's *something* for my taste buds to work with, although not a whole helluva lot. This is my first braggot, but it isn't at all what was expected. Of course, it's possible that this is just a lousy version. There goes my excitement at trying a new style.

The flavor is reminiscent of a cream ale with a higher than usual ABV. Actually, most good cream ales have more flavor than this. Let's see... sweetened pale malt, a subtle fruitiness and a few drops of honey (if I'm being extremely generous). This stuff needs a flavor hook in the worst way.

The mouthfeel is light-medium and is gently carbonated. Something more full would be better, though I really have no idea what a braggot should feel like. A little more flavor appears with warming, which results in slightly higher taste and drinkability scores.

Two Brothers Heliocentric Bragot is still a letdown that I refuse to let color my opinion of the braggot style. Maybe the brewers can take this one back to the drawing board. Keep the name and label please. They're perfect.

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Photo of AndoBrew
2.37/5  rDev -29.9%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

*did not like, would not buy*

app: clear pale gold, not magic, bland looking.

smell: some stale cooked meats cloud some other odd hop malt mixed aromas.

taste: not very good, nannas, sweet gold malt, some almost trash. some grass, but old grass. odd, not yummy.

mf: fine!

drinkable?: for how not yummy it is, yes.

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Photo of Westsidethreat
3.25/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Extemely fizzy like soda. Carbonation chills out after a while, leaving a weak off white film across the top of the body. Decent bit of bubbles proceed to the surface from the bottom of the glass. Body is a clean and sterile mandarin color.

S: Clover honey, biscuits, yellow apples and cider.

T: Starts off mildly sweet and sour at the some time at the front of the palate. Honey is predominant but not cloying. Its actually not a bad flavor…but some off flavors follow it up. Slightly dirty flavor shows up, and I think the only reason you taste them is because the other flavors are so subtle. Delicate floral components come next with nectar qualities following suite. Finishes sort of grainy. Grainy flavors usually go away after you drink the beer for a while, but this one isn’t. Finishes with grainy flavors and lingering honey.

M: Medium body, soft mouthfeel.

D: I’m coming to the conclusion the bragots aren’t one of my favorite styles. Perhaps I just haven’t been drinking the right ones. Very subtle flavors at work here, and I’d imagine it takes master craftsmanship to perfect this type of beer. Dunno.

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Photo of orbitalr0x
3.68/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber. Brewed with local sunflower honey. Pours into my glass a deep golden honey color with great clarity. A small bubbly white head on top with mellow active carbonation. Aromas start with a toasted, slightly caramelized grain along with big floral notes. The honey is quite evident and brings in a sweetness as well. Somewhat earthy with a subtle fruity quality.

First sip brings a toasted grain caramel malt upfront that moves into fruity, floral flavors. Midway through the honey becomes quite evident. It brings a sweet, earthy tone to the beer. Somewhat bready with just a hint of grassy bitterness on the finish and a lingering honey afterthought.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a slick quality to the brew. Mellow carbonation works well. The honey seems to add an interesting twist, but overall the beer is refreshing and probably better suited for summer then this cold winter night. Overall, I could see myself enjoying a bottle of this on occasion and hopefully they will brew it again sometime. Cheers to Two Brothers for always bringing something unique with the Artisan series.

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Photo of Viggo
3.77/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled picked up by Lexx.

Pours a clear amber, thin white head forms, no lacing, settles to a thin ring. Smell is sweet, some floral honey, caramel, cereal/oats, grass, very clean aroma, light but nice. Taste is honey, clovers, floral and grass, cereal/oats, bit of bread with a sweet honey aftertaste. Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with low to medium carbonation. Not bad, on the lighter side of braggots I've had but still enjoyable.

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Photo of brentk56
3.31/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a clear honey color (surprise!) with a modest head that leaves traces of lace

Smell: Very very subtle aroma of bread and a touch of honey

Taste: Starts with a slightly sweet bready flavor, with a growing vegetable element by mid-palate; after the swallow the sweet and grainy flavors build modestly

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: I have had homebrewed braggot before so I have a fair idea what the style entails; this one is underwhelming

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Photo of sopclod
2.82/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I had no prior experience with anything mead related, but I'll give my impressions anyway.

To me this beer was kind of flat and watery. It really had no complexity, and not much flavor at all. It wasn't BAD, but it's very... boring. I guess there's alcohol in it, but I couldn't tell.

I would be interested to try a traditional mead, but I sure hope it's a better experience than this. I'm glad I tried it, but I probably won't be buying this again.

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Photo of Vancer
3.5/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

First, and most likely, the only braggot I’ll have. It certainly is better than a sweet ass mead type, but the style doesn’t do it for me – still to sweet, perhaps this is a desert beer.

Clear amber with almost no white head. Aroma is a weak blond ale type, not much of anything there, it’s like sniffing a honey jar. Taste was kinda a plain jane too, just some bits of a earthy wood, red ale style. 7.8%

Surprisingly dry and crisp, but with that sweetish finish. This may be a perfect braggot, I donno, so I’ll go with all 3.5s

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Photo of cokes
1.76/5  rDev -47.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Clear pale bronze with a spotty ivory lace.
Nose of toasted grain, rubber, and wet yellow dandelions.
It's all obese blonde ale once it hits the mouth, with a sense of dilute grain, corn, starchy yeast and tempered, grassy hops and traces of iron. Honey only barely makes an impression, and it's very vague and towards the close. Then again, I always get a honey impression from grain alcohol, and that's what I get here.
Medium bodied with moments of vapidness and moments of clingy cloying grab. If you were to make an Imperial Blonde/Cream Ale, this is about what it would taste like. And realistically, this should be bottle in 40ozs and sold for $1.29. A braggot this is not.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
2.98/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

(Served in a dimple mug)

A- This beer has a crystal clear light amber body with a strong carbonation of big bubbles. There is a snow white head that disappears soon after the beer is poured.

S- The note of light pale malt has a cider smell that is a little tangy. The smell is pretty clean overall.

T- The taste of pale malt and field corn comes through with a dry honey note and finishes with a light sweetness. As the beer warms the notes of biscuit malt and white wine come through along with a slight metallic taste.

M- This beer has a light and airy mouthfeel with a watery texture in the finish.

D- The flavors of beer are not very interesting and the mead flavors are very faint and not that interesting. So when they are blended it still tastes rather bland and uneventful. I like this style and this beer didn’t have the qualities that I look for or much taste at all.

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Photo of DaPeculierDane
2.48/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours a clear dark yellow, almost liquid honey color with a thin and short lived white head. Sweet malty aroma similar to the “blonde ale” found in almost every average to sub-par brew pub in America. Biscuits and damp grains with just an idea of honey. Flavor is initially sweet, malty, and not very pleasing. Rather one dimensional and leaning too much towards a regular and terribly average blonde ale. The finish on the other hand is quite pleasing, spicy, honey sweet, and much more interesting. It just doesn't last long enough to make up for the other problems. Body is light and not very carbonated. Drinkability is low. I don’t find this beer interesting or enjoyable. It’s too sweet and simple and the sweetness seems to come from malt rather than honey.

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Photo of merlin48
4/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle pours a mostly clear peach body with a tiny offwhite cap for a head. Only a few flecks of lace. Aroma is subtle, with honey and rosewater notes. Surprisingly light bodied with restrained carbonation. Taste has a floral hops bitterness that seems lavender. Honey and a subdued caramel malt sweetness balance well. Very easy to sip. This is a style I look forward to sampling again.

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Photo of
2.88/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

22oz. bottle

My first braggot, so take this review as my opinion of the beer without much understanding of the style.

Clear, honey colored liquid. Small, off-white head. No lacing, some legs.

Aroma was sweet and fruity, cherries came to mind. Honey. A bit malty, reminds me a little of a dopplebock in smell (sweet & fruity aspect).

Taste was sweet, and increasingly so as it warms. Alcohol. Honey. Strong herbal notes at finish.

Light to medium body - seems like it should be heavier. Medium + carbonation. Dry, but refreshing.

Very different, an herbal mead which is light on the honey. Not to my taste, as it doesn't appeal to me as a beer or a mead. This could be very well done, but it doesn't do it for me.

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Photo of joe1510
3.95/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz Bomber
$5.99
Binny's Orland

Only my second Braggot so bear with me on this review. Heliocentric pours a deep dark clear crystal golden. Tiny carbonation bubbles rise to the surface from the middle of the glass. A half finger head ormed on an aggressive pour that fell to a skeleton of a skimming with a solid ring. The body really looks nice.

Unique aroma. Smells of dark honey right up front along with some dampness (wet straw, although pretty weak). Mild toasted white bread is the ale backbone of this braggot. Flower petals as well, hints of lavender. Subtle but good. The last braggot I sampled I remember similiar aromas that were subtle as well.

The flavor is quite a bit different than expected. Somewhat caramel backbone on the flavor, some of that white bread is present but the caramel takes the cake. The dark honey comes through mid-palate with mild lavander. Really softens on the swallow. Nice.

The mouthfeel is the weak point of this braggot. Body is on the lighter side of medium without much activity or smoothness.

This is a libation I could see myself drinking quite a bit of while I lounge around getting fanned by my maidens and hand fed grapes. That's how I imagine it anyways (good luck, right?).

A quality braggot that you have to let warm to catch the nuances. Interesting flavors that I will buy again, if I see more around. Definately a good summer sipper. Thanks again Two Brothers.

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Photo of brewcrew76
3.41/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a brilliantly clear golden orange, honey like, with a thin head that disappeared immediately.

S - Honey with a touch grain.

T - Sweet honey with a grainy malt taste and hints of apple in the background. Having brewed a honey pale ale myself it tastes like honey is the dominant flavor in this one.

M - Light and slightly sticky on the teeth. Very easy to drink.

D - A nice take on a not so common style. I hope 2 Bros continues to keep the Artisan collection interesting.

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Photo of MrMcGibblets
2.84/5  rDev -16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

this was easy on the eyes, a beautiful clear deep copper with decent lacing. not much head to speak of but i don't care as much about head on a beer as i do other things. i expected a powerful and complex nose but this failed to deliver. perhaps i should have let it warm more? i got just a hint of honey in the nose and not much else. taste was dry and tart with the alcohol presence noticeable. medium-bodied with an appropriate level of carbonation. drinkability suffers due to the relatively high abv and lack of complexity, balance, and flavor.

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Photo of ultralarry2006
4.03/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber. Leaves less than one finger of a pure white head that becomes long lasting surface skim, and leaves a small amount of spotty lacing. Body is an orange tinted golden amber.

Smell - toasty maltbread biscuits, tiny hint of citrus, and a tiny hint of honey.

Taste - more honey shows up on the tongue than the nose indicates, and it washes through the toasty maltbread biscuits.

Mouthfeel - medium bodied, a little syrupy.

Drinkability - this is very good, and it is possibly sessionable.

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Photo of emerge077
3.43/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Named after the 1st modern astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus, and his heliocentric model of the solar system.

Poured into a snifter, it reflects a deep amber jewel tone. Two fingers of foam at first, but it soon fades to a bare skim. Spotty lacing eventually forms. Aroma is grainy, very mildly phenolic.

Buttered popcorn, sunflower seeds, and a vague notion of honey all settle into a tacky, malty profile. Thin in mouthfeel, seedy aftertaste.

A bomber can be finished solo, but it leaves something to be desired. Points for creativity...

Brewer's Notes: It is half mead (fermented honey) and half beer. We used all locally produced Sunflower honey from the Naperville area.

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Heliocentric Bragot from Two Brothers Brewing Company
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