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Moaten | Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company
Illinois, United States

Style: Flanders Red Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Nickls on 07-31-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 99 | Ratings: 124
Photo of jrallen34
1.38/5  rDev -55.6%
look: 2 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

I drank this from a bottle into a chalice.

It pours a light brown with a piss pour head that doesn't rise half a finger and is gone even quicker. The lacing is watery.

The aroma is weak and unpleasing. It has a sour hop smell. No vinegar or crazy tartness.

The taste is really bland. The sourness you expect is not there and instead you get some kid of weird aftertaste.

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Photo of wisrarebeer
1.67/5  rDev -46.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

$7.49 from Discount in Milwaukee. What an absolute waste of money...

A: copper colored, decent head
S: mild nose, sweeter and cloying with no tartness nor oak aging, where's the Flanders Red qualities?
T: wow, this has got to be one of the most disappointing beers I've had in quite some time, oxidized, mild flavor that is mostly watery with no tartness
M: watery and thin
O: what a HUGE disappointment, how could something like this be so wrong?

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Photo of WastingFreetime
1.74/5  rDev -44.1%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A. Popping the cork made the wimpiest little sad excuse of a 'pop' I have *EVER* heard come from a cork-and-caged bottle. Not a very promising beginning. Pours into a stemware glass a burgundy-brown with little to no foaming action. As predicted by the saddest de-corking in the world, the carbonation has been shot. I will say this, at least they got the color right. But that's about it for appearance.
S. A very very very very brief initial spurt of sour vinegar smell upon opening the bottle disintegrates into the void nigh instantly never to be detected again. After that, I might as well be trying to smell water. More danger flags go up in my mind. "This will not end well." The only reason I don't rate the smell (Hahahaha, WHAT smell?) all the way down to 1.0 is because, well at least it doesn't stink like an infected bottle.
T. Weak. Weak watery (I mean watery like your typical adjunct lager) thin tannic oak notes that are barely perceptible. A vague sense of...some kind of disappearing malt is somewhere in the vicinity but damned if I can pick up on enough of it to characterize it very well.
M. This is the strongest aspect of this beer, and that is a very sad statement indeed, because even the body is thin and watery on my tongue. Bleah. This isn't a drainpour, but you may as well drink water or a "light beer".

I hate to beat a dead horse with an overused Internet Meme, but nothing quite fits as well as : "Son, I am disappoint."

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Photo of jsh420
2.08/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

pours a very light redish brown with a 1 finger head that fades fast

smells watery - cherries and some wheat?

tstaste - ? i guess this is a flanders red because the label says so? - but to me it tases like a light hefe with cherries???

mouthfeel is thin watery - the cabonation was right though

drinikability is low - price is too high and the flavor sucks

this beer = epic fail

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Photo of cpetrone84
2.17/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A-pours a clear cola colored brown liquied with red edges and light tan dense head.

S-the nose is light, very metallic, a watery toasted bread and caramel malt backbone and some light fruity notes.

T-caramel up front, light toasted biscuit, syrupy dark fruit, cherries and plums, lots of phenolic metal in the back.

M-smooth and syrupy, low carbonation, lacking balance.

D-not very tasty, very little sourness or acidity at all, its like a crappy old ale.

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Photo of oline73
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured from a cork and caged bottle into a Chimay goblet.

Appearance: Pours a clear dark red/amber color with a layer of off white head. Some lacing remains after the pour.

Smell: There is a sour note in the smell, but I'm picking up more sweet fruit. It kind of smells like mildly sour apple juice.

Taste: This beer is hardly sour at all. There is a very mild acidic taste, but it is not the dominant taste. There is some sweet dark fruit, think brown sugar, cherries, and raisins. I pick up some oak as well. Overall I think the taste is watery and not nearly sour enough.

Mouthfeel: The body is a bit think and although it feels like this beer wants to have a dry finish, it never gets there. It could use some more carbonation as well.

Drinkability: This beer is too watery and not very sour at all. I definitely won't be going back for another bottle.

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Photo of jefferz5000
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Popping the cork yielded silence. Poured into my Lost Abbey tulip, this concoction is a weird light mauve color, sorta purplish brown. Looks watered down. Really not enticing at all.

Aroma is weak, with a bit of sweetness, perhaps some faint apple cider vinegar. I'm really having to try hard to get much out of it.

Taste follows the nose, but somehow to an even weaker extent. This is just not very tasty. A weird, slightly bitter tartness and not much else. I can put my finger on any particularly recognizable flavor.

Mouthfeel is probably the best thing about this beer, as it's not necessarily offensive.

Overall, I don't think I'll have much from this bottle. My brother agrees, it's not worth consuming more than the initial small pours we gave ourselves.

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Photo of mothman
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured into weyerbacher tulip.

Pours 1/2 finger of off white head. Fades to a ring. Leaves some lace rings. Color is a clear dark ruby red.

Aroma: Cherry concentrate comes to mind instantly. Smells like a fruit punch. A very light amount of oak and spice. Sweet with no sourness.

Taste: I am having a hard time believing this is a flanders. It tastes more like a cherry ale brewed with cherry concentrate and not fresh cherries. Some warming spices show with a touch of oak. Not sour at all.

Mouthfeel: A bit crisp and sweet. Medium amount of carbonation with a lighter body. Ends dry with more cherry flavors.

Overall, if this is a flanders it is not very good. No sourness, no tartness, no funk. It tastes like a cherry fruit beer. It is drinkable in that sense, but not in the sense of being a flanders.

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Photo of organicbrewer
2.2/5  rDev -29.3%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A-Dark ruby. Big tan head. Fairly clear

S-Metalic. Wet Hay. No hops. Medicinal. Some toast.

T-Toasty malts. Munichy. Saccarine sweet. Not at all sour. Not even like an oud bruin with sweet sour. Just nothing. Maybe a little skittle flavor from some lacto but not much.

M- Medium bodied. A little tanic but ok. Medium carbonation.

D-While I wouldn't call this beer awful, it definetly isn't a (according to the label) oak-aged sour flemish style red ale. The fake sweetness/wortiness is already getting on my nerves (4 sips in).

Shame, I love most 2 brothers and urthel beers.

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Photo of kbutler1
2.26/5  rDev -27.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle. Pours a reddish brown clear color with minimal head of big bubbles that collars around the rim of the glass. Sweet over ripe notes in the nose with very minimal if any sour or tart aromas. The taste is not very good to put it straight forward. There is zero sour or tart tastes just over ripe cherry taste with some minimal sweetness. I don't pick up any of the oak barrels. Probably one of the worst sours I have had in a long time. Medium/light mouthfeel. Drinkable and maybe better passable as a fruit beer but as a sour it is a failure.

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Photo of BarrytheBear
2.28/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Sad face...or should I say, sad faces.

A small but motley group sat watching football, playing euchre, drinking beer, and generally having a good time. A bottle of Moaten entered the scene. "Interesting," said one of the young men. "I'm excited to try this," said another. Eagerly the crowd gathered round and the bottle of Moaten allowed itself to be poured freely.

"This smells like band aids," someone remarked. "Is this a diaper beer?" another questioned. Happy revelry went south and once happy faces turned sour, but not in the good-Flanders-tart/sour sort of way. "This is a Flanders?" someone cried. "It's just not right," another chimed.

Mild cherry, next to no tartness, diaper, rubber band, and band aid mesh together.

"Let's not speak of this again," someone said. Well said, someone, well said.

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Photo of paco1029384756
2.33/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a deep ruby color with a small head and uneven ring of lacing.

Scent of dry oak, ash, apples and sugar. Not particularly appealing and unbalanced.

Taste of caramel, bland malts, and oak. Tastes somewhat like apple juice, not good.

It was somewhat of a chore to finish this.

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Photo of Stigs
2.34/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12.7oz corked-bottle...served in a Duvel tulip

A - pours with about a half inch of frothy light tan foam...sitting atop a clear, dark ruby/brownish/purpley colored beer. very minor active bubbling. eventually settles to a thin layer of film and bubbly ring around the outside.

S - lots of minerals, grain here. only a slight twinge of cherries, vanilla, soap. just a tiny hint of sourness that mostly gets lost in everything else.

T - odd. a bit funky, not typical Belgian yeast funk but more cheese or mold like. some vanilla like sweetness, joined by a bit of cherries, vinegar. on a scale of 1-10, sour/tartness is about a 2. dominated by a bland bread malt bed. ive had this one before and can remember it being a bit better.

M - slightly creamy and medium bodied...kind of chalky. carbonation is on the lighter side.

D - not good. struggling to make it halfway through the bottle. just uninteresting, bland, and weird. hopefully my drain likes this better than i do.

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Photo of JamnesCameron
2.34/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Poured into a St. Louis Gueuze glass.

Pours a deep garnet red with a two fingered white head that drops very quickly, leaving a wisp of foam and some light lacing.

Aromas of dark cherries, some lactic sourness. But any aroma is very faint.

Flavors of dark cherries, watered down, some lactic sourness. This is a flanders red that has been diluted down about three or four times. Not much flavor to stand out. Finish is short and unremarkable.

Mouthfeel is light, watery, some sour puckering.

Overall, this is a disappointment. The Ebel brothers got their sour training wheels on this beer. Let's all forget it and move on. I think I'll try Askew next.

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Photo of Thorpe429
2.43/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Reviewed from notes. On tap at the brewpub.

Pours a moderate reddish brown color with a thin light tan head and not much lacing. The nose brings cherries and a bit of earth as well as some light acetic and lactic notes. The taste is mild cherry, bread, hints of caramel, and a bit of sourness. Mouthfeel brings slight sourness and a bit of cream. Drinks okay, but really not a very good collaboration.

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Photo of falloutsnow
2.52/5  rDev -19%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

From: Corkscrew in Urbana, IL
Date: None on bottle
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Moaten is a disappointing Flemish Red ale from Two Brothers and Urthel. The ale features very, very little of the cherry or raspberry fruitiness that one would expect from the style, and virtually no tartness. Instead, it features a fairly uninspired brown malt base with little else to note. Compared to an ale like Duchesse De Bourgogne or Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge, this is a fairly poor representation of the style.

Pours a 1cm head of off-white bubbles, ranging in size from small to large, with a chunky appearance. Foam retention is about average, descending over a minute to a thick ring around the glass with some sparse islands of foam atop the body. Lacing exists, and is prominent, leaving all manner of streaks and dots on the sides of the glass. Body is a rather dark brown for the style with few hints of red. Beer is also transparent, with light bringing out reddish hues and making some modest carbonation visible.

Aroma is of minerals in water, modest raspberry esters, tomato juice, and some brown malt base. The minerals and tomato stand out the most, with raspberry esters needing to be searched for. There is no detectable tartness. Rather disappointed, and the vague tomato aroma is off-putting.

Opens with bland, brown malt base alongside some very subdued raspberry esters and very, very slight tartness. Mid-palate is largely consumed by the soggy brown malt base and slight tomato juice, with little increase in the fruit esters or tartness to perk it up. Back of palate notes slight oak character and some continued mild tartness, with modest cocoa and raspberry flavors as well. Aftertaste is of brown malt sweetness, slight fruit esters and subtle tartness.

The beer's body is medium to medium-light in weight, with very low levels of carbonation. Even with this lighter body, the beer feels smooth, sluggish, and uninspired across the palate. Minimal tartness contributes to a boring experience. Closes out dry and slightly sticky across the palate.

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Photo of klewis
2.58/5  rDev -17%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

A: Pours a hazy copper with a very light layer of foam that quickly disappears. Light wisps of lacing.

S: A mild, stale basement smell, but lacking in the rich and intense aromas that a good Flanders typically has.

T: Sweet with just a mild sourness. Very soft flavors of bread and toffee almost immediately vacate the palate. Oak-aged? Coulda fooled me. Overall, quite bland and lacking in character.

M: Light-bodied with moderate carbonation. Clean finish.

D: I typically expect a Flanders to either knock my socks off with sourness or blow me away with complexity; this does neither. There's nothing offensive about this beer, but nothing memorable about it.

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.72/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifter on 9/9/09

A - Dirty light brown with slight red highlights. Meager foam that is not long for this world. Tiny spots of circular lace.

S - Potent sour aroma with vinegar overtones. Kind of buttery.

T - Tart & sour. Decent amount of wheat with hints of grassiness. Dark cherry notes.

M - Moderate weight & carbonation. Finish is dry & fairly clean.

D - I'm not familiar with this particular style, thus I have nothing by which to compare it. I don't mind it; it's not offensive, but I'm in no hurry to drink it again.

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Photo of orbitalr0x
2.75/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Not much pop when the cork is pulled. Deep clear dark garnet pour with only a few bubbles on top that becomes a ring quickly. Aromas of semi sweet caramel malts and toasty accents. Cherries and fruit with a very mild oaky backbone. Toffee flirts in as well.

First sip brings sweet malts upfront with toffee and bready notes. Fruit flavors with some cherry and grape. No real oak or tartness in the flavor at all. Tastes more like an amber to me than anything. The only differential is the fruitiness. Finishes with a mellow sweetness.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and a bit slick. Mellow carbonation. Overall it was a bit hard for me to finish. A bit of a mess and not near what I want in a Flemish red.

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Photo of SpdKilz
2.76/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Randomly found at a store (looks like they found a lost case) and picked up only because I’d heard how bad it was. Split with my brother-in-law.

Appearance – Pours into a matching pair of tulips with a reddish brown, mahogany color. About half finger of slight white fizzy head is achieved with a moderate pour.

Smell – Literally nothing. There is almost zero aroma, and what I do get does not remind one of a flanders. Slight fruity aroma and sweet malts – that’s it.

Taste – Yikes. I went in here knowing this wasn’t the best but I was not expecting it to be this bad. Just a hint of cherry flavor, and heavy sweetness. Literally no tart or sour characteristics.

Mouthfeel – Lighter bodied, fizzy.

Overall – We drain poured this. I was at least hoping it would have been drinkable but it really was just horrible. Avoid.

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Photo of nickfl
2.78/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - The cork comes out without a sound, which is a little disconcerting when you are expecting a loud pop. Pours with one finger of light tan foam (which is somewhat reassuring) that settles quickly and leaves a little bit of lace. The body is a beautiful, reddish-brown color with excellent clarity.

S - Rich malt notes of nutty caramel and toffee with just a hint of acetic sourness.

T - Nutty malt with light caramel sweetness up front. Toffee notes in the middle with some mild tartness and a hint of roasted grain. A light oak note in the finish with some very mild funk and acidity that shows very little true sourness. Lingering rich malt with some very nice nutty character.

M - Medium body, light carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - Not at all what I was expecting or what was advertised. This is not a bad beer, it is quite enjoyable actually, but it is sure as hell not a flemmish red. It might have become one if allowed to sour properly, but it tastes like the bottled it after a month in the barrel. There is very little acidity and as a result, the beer is totally lacking in complexity and it has a strongly exaggerated malt character. The nutty malt is quite pleasant and it would have been great in an actual sour beer, but the sweetness makes this seem more like an american amber with a slight infection than a Flemmish red. I honestly can't believe they bottled a beer this immature, it really needed to be soured for another year or so based on the way it tastes. I didn't mind drinking this, but it utterly fails at being a "flemish style red ale" and I have to give it a poor rating for not even beginning to deliver on what is promised on the label.

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Photo of sweemzander
2.79/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12.7oz. bottle corked and caged bottle poured into a stemmed glass.

(A)- Pours a deep brown yet red burgundy color. Produced a giant 3+ finger sized foamy off-white colored head. Ridiculous retention for the style and plenty of lacing left behind.

(S)- Very dry and funky. Tons of a woody oak. Rather vinous in character; very subtle vinegar-like fruits in the background.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. Extremely dry and oaky. Low acidity, but plenty of those subtle vinegar-like fruits from the smell.

(M)- A smooth carbonation level. A decent balance to it, but otherwise it carries a massively dry woody oak profile in front of everything else.

(D)- Not awful, but not great either. Extremely dry and oaky while being very mellow in the fruit and sour categories. Maybe more time was needed with this one.

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Photo of weeare138
2.83/5  rDev -9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appears a murky, dark brown with a red hue. Spotty bits of lacing are left around the glass.
Smell...meh. Kind of bland stuff, here. No funk detected. Very mild traces of steeped grain, and a touch of fruit if anything.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas. Perhaps some very, very mild cherry detected in the flavor but not what I was expecting when manning up the $10 for this brew.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied with some light fruitiness lingering. As a hge fan of this style, I am sad to report that I was let down. It didn't even really scratch the surface of funkiness that is expected with some of the bigger boys from this genre, ala Rodenbach. It's ok for a beer but not on par with anything spectacular. If there are any left, do yourself a favor...uncork it, give a pinch of sugar in there, add lactobaccilus, and brett lambicus, re-cap, age. Hopefully, you'll have a genuine Flemish Red in about a year.

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Photo of burnheartsMKE
2.83/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Symbolically I am happy to sharing this bottle with my brother on the first day of the new year. I'm also happy that we chose to get this out of the way seeing as it probably would not have stood up very well as a second or third beer of the night. Overall, I love this style, but this version is pretty weak. Dusty with a touch of funk. It reminds me of sipping the melted ice after a glass of Kalimotxo.

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Photo of accordselux
2.86/5  rDev -8%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a Sam Adams pint glass.

Poured a shade of brown that does not remind me of a Flanders Red Ale at all, with straw colored foam. The bottle barely popped, but miraculously, was still carbonated.

Smelled of the wild fermentation I expected, but the taste was definitely not there. I'd expect a sour to get stronger over time, but if this was ever sour, it lost it at some point. It had the acidity of a Bell's Oarsman- a bit tart, but definitely not sour enough for the style.

Good mouthfeel, and went down well. I would pass up another- not worth the extra calories for me.

If this was rebrewed, it should be labeled as a Bruin, with a lot more sour to it. Disappointing in its current state.

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Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
3.11 out of 5 based on 124 ratings.
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