Moaten | Two Brothers Brewing Company

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Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company
Illinois, United States

Style: Flanders Red Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by Nickls on 07-31-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of falloutsnow
2.52/5  rDev -19%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

From: Corkscrew in Urbana, IL
Date: None on bottle
Glass: New Belgium globe glass

Moaten is a disappointing Flemish Red ale from Two Brothers and Urthel. The ale features very, very little of the cherry or raspberry fruitiness that one would expect from the style, and virtually no tartness. Instead, it features a fairly uninspired brown malt base with little else to note. Compared to an ale like Duchesse De Bourgogne or Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge, this is a fairly poor representation of the style.

Pours a 1cm head of off-white bubbles, ranging in size from small to large, with a chunky appearance. Foam retention is about average, descending over a minute to a thick ring around the glass with some sparse islands of foam atop the body. Lacing exists, and is prominent, leaving all manner of streaks and dots on the sides of the glass. Body is a rather dark brown for the style with few hints of red. Beer is also transparent, with light bringing out reddish hues and making some modest carbonation visible.

Aroma is of minerals in water, modest raspberry esters, tomato juice, and some brown malt base. The minerals and tomato stand out the most, with raspberry esters needing to be searched for. There is no detectable tartness. Rather disappointed, and the vague tomato aroma is off-putting.

Opens with bland, brown malt base alongside some very subdued raspberry esters and very, very slight tartness. Mid-palate is largely consumed by the soggy brown malt base and slight tomato juice, with little increase in the fruit esters or tartness to perk it up. Back of palate notes slight oak character and some continued mild tartness, with modest cocoa and raspberry flavors as well. Aftertaste is of brown malt sweetness, slight fruit esters and subtle tartness.

The beer's body is medium to medium-light in weight, with very low levels of carbonation. Even with this lighter body, the beer feels smooth, sluggish, and uninspired across the palate. Minimal tartness contributes to a boring experience. Closes out dry and slightly sticky across the palate.

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Photo of sulldaddy
2.98/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Sampling this brew at home at cellar temp poured into a snifter. The beer pours a clear chestnut with bright ruby highlights, or maybe flipped with a bright ruby and chestnut highlights? its not just red.
I get a fizzy 1cm off white head that fades rapidly to nothing. Aroma is some acidic sour cherry and a bit of biscuity malt. Not too complex and not quite as strong as I anticipated.

First sip reveals a crisp texture with fine fizzy carbonation and an average to light body.

Flavor is tart cherries with some acidic notes and not a lot of anything else. I get a little bit of sugary fruit notes as the beer warms up a little, but this is certainly not as tart or interesting as anticipated.
The beer is easy to drink but not very interesting, could be a portal ? intro beer to the style, but it is a little lacking as a solid example of the style.

Im left with an empty bottle and a sense of disappointment.

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Photo of dbrauneis
3.43/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a cloudy garnet red with two fingers of bright white foamy head. Moderate head retention and moderate lacing.

S: Aromas are of sour cherry though far more intense than the flavor.

T: Flavors are light sour cherry with hints of oak. I prefer a little more sourness and funkiness in this style so I felt this was a little light on flavor. Overall a very well balanced taste.

M: Light to medium bodied with heavy carbonation and a dry finish.

O: Could be a very refreshing beer in the summer... It would pair very nicely with some freshly grilled meats as it would cut through the fattiness. Easy to drink.

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Photo of metter98
3.63/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is very cloudy red in color and has some yeast particles floating near the bottom of the glass. It poured with a finger high off white head that has excellent retention properties and left a thick head covering the surface and thick lacing down the sides of the glass.
S: There are light to moderately strong aromas of sour cherries in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has sour flavors of cherries along with notes of oak. The sourness is not very strong.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a bit acidic on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is not as sour and acidic compared to other beers in the style and could make for a nice selection on a summer day.

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Photo of SpdKilz
2.76/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Randomly found at a store (looks like they found a lost case) and picked up only because I’d heard how bad it was. Split with my brother-in-law.

Appearance – Pours into a matching pair of tulips with a reddish brown, mahogany color. About half finger of slight white fizzy head is achieved with a moderate pour.

Smell – Literally nothing. There is almost zero aroma, and what I do get does not remind one of a flanders. Slight fruity aroma and sweet malts – that’s it.

Taste – Yikes. I went in here knowing this wasn’t the best but I was not expecting it to be this bad. Just a hint of cherry flavor, and heavy sweetness. Literally no tart or sour characteristics.

Mouthfeel – Lighter bodied, fizzy.

Overall – We drain poured this. I was at least hoping it would have been drinkable but it really was just horrible. Avoid.

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Photo of thain709
3/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured a deeper shade of was semi clear when held to the light...there was almost no head upon pouring the beer...a light ring is all that's left behind...only a ring or two of lacing

S - The nose doesn't show any sour or tart notes but it does show off the oak and some vinegar...there are some light wine characteristics as well

T - Again, the beer is not all that sour but the oak notes do stand out although they are not in your really have to go searching for will also detect some vinegar and it's not the good kind from a normal sour...there are some brief apple notes that allow some sweetness to shine through

M - Light bodied...watery and thin with no sour or tartness going on

O - This one had a lot of living up to...Urthel and Two Brother's missed their mark here...but it did live up to the terrible reviews...I would not recommend this to anyone

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Photo of wisrarebeer
1.67/5  rDev -46.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

$7.49 from Discount in Milwaukee. What an absolute waste of money...

A: copper colored, decent head
S: mild nose, sweeter and cloying with no tartness nor oak aging, where's the Flanders Red qualities?
T: wow, this has got to be one of the most disappointing beers I've had in quite some time, oxidized, mild flavor that is mostly watery with no tartness
M: watery and thin
O: what a HUGE disappointment, how could something like this be so wrong?

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.28/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Collaboration with Urthel? Flemish Red Ale? This beer had some living up to do!

Unfortunately, I was unimpressed from the get-go. For a start, despite the fact the cork was almost impossible to extract (I had to use a corkscrew in the end), it uncorks with hardly a sound, implying some very absent carbonation. Oh well, let's see where we go from here.

Pleasant hazy orange-brown, almost mahogany colour, with a sketchy head of off-white, that leaves a few streams of lacing up the edge of the glass. Fine carbonation and decent body. All up, it's not a bad looking Flanders red.

Nose is quite weak, but displaying some of the characters of a good example: a little oak, slight vegetative funk, a touch of acidity and some smooth vanilla characters. It's very weak, however, but they're nice aromas.

Taste, however, is very disappointing. Where the pleasant bite of acidity should be there's a metallic copper character and... well, almost nothing else. Apart from a very mild hint of astringency on the back, it's a very mild and unnuanced palate, almost drinking like a light beer. In some respects, that's not unpleasant, but in other respects, why bother?

Pretty bad Flanders Red Ale, but on the plus side, that makes it only an average beer, rather than actively unpleasant.

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Photo of mikereaser
3.15/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Pours a muddy reddish brown with a layer of off white bubbles on the surface
S - subtle aroma, just some oak and very light sour aroma
T - Not very sour at all, slightly vinegar, a bit of dark fruit, and not alot else. I am really let down by this one.
M - light to medium bodied with some light carbonation
D - not really alot here to write about, its just thin and lacking alot of taste.


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Photo of Penguin3200
2.93/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Picked this up to continue my exploration of sours. Popped the top and poured into tulip glass. Massive head with lots of lacing and gigantic bubbles. Appearance is very light amber and orange.

Smell is minimal and only a faint hint of fruit. Mostly oak.

Taste is a bit sour but then overwhelmed by the oak. Wood wood and more wood.

Mouthfeel is great given an ample amount of carbonation.

Overall okay, but too dominated by the oak.

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Photo of JamnesCameron
2.34/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Poured into a St. Louis Gueuze glass.

Pours a deep garnet red with a two fingered white head that drops very quickly, leaving a wisp of foam and some light lacing.

Aromas of dark cherries, some lactic sourness. But any aroma is very faint.

Flavors of dark cherries, watered down, some lactic sourness. This is a flanders red that has been diluted down about three or four times. Not much flavor to stand out. Finish is short and unremarkable.

Mouthfeel is light, watery, some sour puckering.

Overall, this is a disappointment. The Ebel brothers got their sour training wheels on this beer. Let's all forget it and move on. I think I'll try Askew next.

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Photo of WastingFreetime
1.74/5  rDev -44.1%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A. Popping the cork made the wimpiest little sad excuse of a 'pop' I have *EVER* heard come from a cork-and-caged bottle. Not a very promising beginning. Pours into a stemware glass a burgundy-brown with little to no foaming action. As predicted by the saddest de-corking in the world, the carbonation has been shot. I will say this, at least they got the color right. But that's about it for appearance.
S. A very very very very brief initial spurt of sour vinegar smell upon opening the bottle disintegrates into the void nigh instantly never to be detected again. After that, I might as well be trying to smell water. More danger flags go up in my mind. "This will not end well." The only reason I don't rate the smell (Hahahaha, WHAT smell?) all the way down to 1.0 is because, well at least it doesn't stink like an infected bottle.
T. Weak. Weak watery (I mean watery like your typical adjunct lager) thin tannic oak notes that are barely perceptible. A vague sense of...some kind of disappearing malt is somewhere in the vicinity but damned if I can pick up on enough of it to characterize it very well.
M. This is the strongest aspect of this beer, and that is a very sad statement indeed, because even the body is thin and watery on my tongue. Bleah. This isn't a drainpour, but you may as well drink water or a "light beer".

I hate to beat a dead horse with an overused Internet Meme, but nothing quite fits as well as : "Son, I am disappoint."

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Photo of jefferz5000
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Popping the cork yielded silence. Poured into my Lost Abbey tulip, this concoction is a weird light mauve color, sorta purplish brown. Looks watered down. Really not enticing at all.

Aroma is weak, with a bit of sweetness, perhaps some faint apple cider vinegar. I'm really having to try hard to get much out of it.

Taste follows the nose, but somehow to an even weaker extent. This is just not very tasty. A weird, slightly bitter tartness and not much else. I can put my finger on any particularly recognizable flavor.

Mouthfeel is probably the best thing about this beer, as it's not necessarily offensive.

Overall, I don't think I'll have much from this bottle. My brother agrees, it's not worth consuming more than the initial small pours we gave ourselves.

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Photo of sweemzander
2.79/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12.7oz. bottle corked and caged bottle poured into a stemmed glass.

(A)- Pours a deep brown yet red burgundy color. Produced a giant 3+ finger sized foamy off-white colored head. Ridiculous retention for the style and plenty of lacing left behind.

(S)- Very dry and funky. Tons of a woody oak. Rather vinous in character; very subtle vinegar-like fruits in the background.

(T)- Very similar to the smell. Extremely dry and oaky. Low acidity, but plenty of those subtle vinegar-like fruits from the smell.

(M)- A smooth carbonation level. A decent balance to it, but otherwise it carries a massively dry woody oak profile in front of everything else.

(D)- Not awful, but not great either. Extremely dry and oaky while being very mellow in the fruit and sour categories. Maybe more time was needed with this one.

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Photo of oline73
2.19/5  rDev -29.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured from a cork and caged bottle into a Chimay goblet.

Appearance: Pours a clear dark red/amber color with a layer of off white head. Some lacing remains after the pour.

Smell: There is a sour note in the smell, but I'm picking up more sweet fruit. It kind of smells like mildly sour apple juice.

Taste: This beer is hardly sour at all. There is a very mild acidic taste, but it is not the dominant taste. There is some sweet dark fruit, think brown sugar, cherries, and raisins. I pick up some oak as well. Overall I think the taste is watery and not nearly sour enough.

Mouthfeel: The body is a bit think and although it feels like this beer wants to have a dry finish, it never gets there. It could use some more carbonation as well.

Drinkability: This beer is too watery and not very sour at all. I definitely won't be going back for another bottle.

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Photo of peensteen
3.73/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light mahogany, with a withe soapy head, some lacing. Smells of cherry slight funk, nice sour notes and something that is barley wine like, not much oak comes out in the nose. Taste is tart, good sourness, cherry, apple and a slight sweetness, no oak is detectable on the palate either. Thin mouthfeel, watery at points and at other times syrupy. Drinks fairly well, not the best sour I've had but far from the worst, I think I would try this again.

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Photo of kbutler1
2.26/5  rDev -27.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle. Pours a reddish brown clear color with minimal head of big bubbles that collars around the rim of the glass. Sweet over ripe notes in the nose with very minimal if any sour or tart aromas. The taste is not very good to put it straight forward. There is zero sour or tart tastes just over ripe cherry taste with some minimal sweetness. I don't pick up any of the oak barrels. Probably one of the worst sours I have had in a long time. Medium/light mouthfeel. Drinkable and maybe better passable as a fruit beer but as a sour it is a failure.

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Photo of burnheartsMKE
2.83/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Symbolically I am happy to sharing this bottle with my brother on the first day of the new year. I'm also happy that we chose to get this out of the way seeing as it probably would not have stood up very well as a second or third beer of the night. Overall, I love this style, but this version is pretty weak. Dusty with a touch of funk. It reminds me of sipping the melted ice after a glass of Kalimotxo.

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Photo of TMoney2591
2.95/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a "tulip" glass (I'll figure out what to really call this thing some day) at Durty Nellie's.

I couldn't remember what I came here for, so I decided on this as a nice backup option. It pours a clear dark sunset amber topped by a maximum of a half-finger of dirty white foam. The nose comprises light caramel, port, prickly grapefruit (a la Squirt), and what seems like light cayenne. The taste holds notes of ruby red grapefruit, very mild vinegar, spicy (the only adjective that comes to mind) red wine, clove, and light orange peel. These elements do not meld well at all. The body is a lazy medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a finish that seems to want to be sticky. Overall, I'm not sure this is actually a Flanders red, 'cause it really doesn't taste like one. Whatever it is, though, it's not very good.

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Photo of garymuchow
4.03/5  rDev +29.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hopefully not too old. I've have for 2 months, but not sure how long in store.
Malty, sour and berry type fruit in aroma. Typical tartness and slight aroma of yeast.
Smallish darker than white head with a density and creaminess. Relatively clear and glows red in light.
I like the initial malt sweetness, fruit and creaminess of the first part of the drink. It's really nice. There is a dampness too the sour character, although it does kick in half-way and fades slowly through the finish. The red berry flavor is good. The dryness is brief with the finish holding nice flavors of the berry. A mild spice in the flavor, like cinnamon.
Good creaminess of the carbonation. Smooth and soft. Nice feel.
Boy, this one drinks really nicely. Smooth and flavorful. I can't believe how fast this goes down.
Based upon the score I wasn't sure about this, but this is worth buying again.

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Photo of donniecuffs
3.42/5  rDev +10%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Relatively recently at the Coppermine Pub in North Arlington, NJ, a fellow patron walked in with this bottle. Into a tulip, it poured a cloudy reddish brown, with a very thin off-white head, poor retention and lacing, and little visible carbonation. Smelled of plum, raisin, sour cherry, and various spices. The taste certainly revealed plum, raisin, and spices, with a sour finish. Very thin, with no carbonation, yet smooth. Nothing about this beer really jumped out at me; not bad, but not great.

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Photo of brentk56
3.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: After a dull thud when the cork was popped, I expected this to be flat but it did manage to provide about an inch of foam that sits atop the strikingly clear russet colored liquid; decent spotting on the glass, too

Smell: Whiffs of oaky cherries and mineral water

Taste: Oaked cherry juice, with a sweet/tart character that builds by mid-palate, though it is very restrained; after the swallow, the sweetness actually wins out as the tart flavors fade to the background

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with low to moderate carbonation; slightly cloying

Drinkability: A beer that masquerades as a Flemish sour, unfortunately; too bad, as the collaboration could have held so much promise

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Photo of mactrail
3.88/5  rDev +24.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A fruity amber beer of mixed parentage.

Big foam-up but it dissipates to a very nice rich carbonation. Looks quite nice in the glass with dark coppery color, Good mouthfeel. I don't detect much sourness, but the tart edge does go well with the maltiness. I do like the fruity cherry tang. An edge of bitterness, but fortunately neither too sweet nor too bitter.

This is a strange one and if you're going by the style book you will be unfulfilled. But it's a richly flavored beer that keeps you guessing and to me, very drinkable. It would be great with a steak and an interesting salad. They went to a lot of trouble with this 12.7 oz bottle and the little cork. Pabst should check into this to buy the recipe for a Champale flavor.

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Photo of Thorpe429
2.43/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Reviewed from notes. On tap at the brewpub.

Pours a moderate reddish brown color with a thin light tan head and not much lacing. The nose brings cherries and a bit of earth as well as some light acetic and lactic notes. The taste is mild cherry, bread, hints of caramel, and a bit of sourness. Mouthfeel brings slight sourness and a bit of cream. Drinks okay, but really not a very good collaboration.

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Photo of ZeroSignal
3.48/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12.7 oz bottle, no date - Many thanks to GDBEERMAN for the opportunity to give this a try

A - Pours a clear, reddish amber with about half a fingers worth of fluffy white head. Head settles to a thin skim across the top with slippery lacing

S - Nose is tart cherry and sweet fruitiness. Hints of woodiness.

T&M - A nice combination of subtle sweetness and a sharp, but not overwhelming tart. Some fruity alcohol and a bit of oakiness. Medium bodied with a tart and somewhat sour finish. I feel as though maybe a bit too far on the fruity side and not enough tart.

D - A very approachable brew; relatively smooth, but I was looking for a little more sour to match the strong cherry presence.

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Moaten from Two Brothers Brewing Company
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