Old 1713 | Two Brothers Brewing Company

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Two Brothers Brewing Company
Illinois, United States
twobrothersbrewing.com

Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.80%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by emerge077 on 07-15-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
47
Reviews:
17
Avg:
3.61
pDev:
10.53%
 
 
Wants:
1
Gots:
3
For Trade:
0
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Photo of larryarms847
3.67/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Appearance is rust red and rather flat, expected from a scotch ale.

I immediately smell the scotch, Two Brothers didn't even attempt to hide it, not very inviting honestly.

Tastes like scotch and flat beer, too much malt, not enough hop to counteract that fact.

Mouthfeel is a total malt bomb, I'll pass.

Overall I love me some TB, but this was not a good showing from them.

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Photo of falloutsnow
3.66/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From: Piccadilly in Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle, in stores in August
Glass: Standard US pint glass

Two Brothers produces a hop-forward Scottish ale. A bit strange in theory, but generally successful in execution, this is a nicely caramel-malt-sweet ale with aggressive hop bitterness, but not much in the way of citrus flavors. Would have again if seen.

Pours a Head retention is at or a little below average, but the receding foam does leave behind significant rings of lacing along the sides of the glass, and the sheeting action after each sip is very pleasant to behold. The body is a transparent brown-orange color, light bringing out lighter shades of burnt orange and even a bit of goldenrod. Carbonation is visible and substantial, rising steadily from the bottom of the glass.

Aroma is substantially caramel-like, with a hint of toasted nuts. No ethanol is really present, and the bittering hops that lie in wait are not particularly noticeable here. The scent profile is a little on the weak side once the head fades, a bit disappointing.

Two Brothers has interestingly decided not to focus solely on the malt in this, more than balancing it with substantial bittering hops. Front of palate picks up some caramel malt sweetness with a bit of mineral character and some light, bitter hoppiness. Mid-palate finds an interesting mix of caramel malt and substantial, bitter hoppiness, with the caramel malt just winning out. Back of palate picks up substantial hop bitterness, less noticeable malt sweetness and caramel flavor, and a brief bit of ethanol. Lingering hop bitterness in the aftertaste, actually slightly overpowering the caramel-like residual maltiness.

Beer is medium bodied and quite full, with carbonation being at medium to medium-low levels. The result is a generally smooth mouthfeel, with a bit of fizzy carbonation to make things interesting initially. Finish is dry and a bit sticky, as expected.

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Photo of TMoney2591
3.58/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a shaker pint glass at Atlas Brewing Company.

The final stop on the Second Annual Bachelor Party Free-For-All! Quite the ride, indeed. This stuff pours a clear amber-copper topped by over a finger of cream-white foam. The nose comprises caramel, toffee, and very light pine sap. The taste brings in more of the same, with more pine sap coming through, and some light lemon peel joining the party. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a sorta/kinda dry finish. Overall, a nice Scottish ale, nothing amazing, but something generally enjoyable.

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Photo of Bung
3.53/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz. Pretty clear dark red pour. Layer of white. Laces the glass just a bit.

Aroma, toasted malt, toffee and some herbal hop notes.

Taste, a little herbal and pine up front. Not overbearing really though. A nice toffee, leather, toasted malt the rest of the way. As it warms some pumpernickel and light cocoa comes out.

About mid bodied. Coats enough. Easy to drink with the more balanced than usual nature. Abv is well hidden.

A more balanced rather than malt bomb. I prefer the malt bomb, but this really wasn't bad.

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Photo of larbush
3.5/5  rDev -3%

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3.5/5  rDev -3%

Photo of jzlyo
3.5/5  rDev -3%

Photo of beagle75
3.27/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a bomber into a tulip glass.

A: Clear, dark amber color with a loose peripheral ring of off-white bubbles. Scant lacing remains on the glass.

S: Very fruity, like cooked apples, with definite caramel character as well.

T: Begins off-dry, with early esters that match the fruit of the smell followed too soon by particularly spicy acidity. A drying trend begins early in the middle causing the early malt qualities to become diminished. The finish is too clean and bitter, a little herbaceous.

M: Thin to medium viscosity, balanced if a little syrupy and acidic, with moderate carbonation.

D/O: This mid-strength scotch ale begins alright but loses its best qualities too soon. Bitterness reaches uncharacteristic levels as malt is pre-empted.

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Photo of Oboogie
3.25/5  rDev -10%

Photo of johunnic
3.25/5  rDev -10%

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3.25/5  rDev -10%

Photo of sourgrass
3.25/5  rDev -10%

Photo of bashiba
3.2/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured a deep clean mahagony With a light sticky white.

The smell is great. Big and malty With lots of toasted caramel.

The flavor is a big drop of from the smell. Its thin with dry toasted malts And a long lingering bitterness. Surprisingly shallow flavor profile.

The mouth feel is very dry and thin.

Not a great Scotch ale.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.08/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a slightly dense dark caramel body with a bubbly off-white head that soon fades to a thick ring. There is a gentle carbonation of tiny bubbles that glide to the surface.

S- The clean aroma has some mineral notes and a dark toast and malt note in the finish.

T- The big bitterness doesn't have much other hop character to it with a dry dark toasted malt note underneath. There is a bitterness that lingers still without much hop flavor. As the beer grows a mineral water flavor comes through.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a scrubbing fizz and no alcohol heat.

O- This beer has a big hop bitterness and fizz that cover up all the much softer flavors. There are no characteristics of a classic Scottish ale but regardless of any style guidelines it just doesn't have any good hop or malt flavors. A bit tough to drink because of the bitterness.

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Photo of dtx00
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of WKole81
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of TastyIsBeer
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of TheSSG
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of akttr
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of thebouch01
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of dmartin118
3/5  rDev -16.9%

Photo of JohnnyHopps
3/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I consider myself a fan of this style of beer. However, I have never had a Scottish IPA, which is what this one seems like. The hops kill everything I like about a Scottish Ale in this one.

Poured from the bottle into a pint glass, the beer was a murky brown color with little head or carbonation. The aroma was mildly malty, not really an attention getter. I was rather shocked on the initial taste. Expecting the smooth toasted malts, I instead received a jolt of hops like pale ale. By far, this was more hoppy than malty. There is some potential here. Upon their revelation, the dark toasted malts are quite tasty with hints of toffee and biscuit. Unfortunately, the malts are masked. The malts are more apparent in the aftertaste, but this is not what I was expecting.

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Old 1713 from Two Brothers Brewing Company
3.61 out of 5 based on 47 ratings.
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