717 Collaboration Ale (2015)
Tröegs Brewing Company

717 Collaboration Ale (2015)717 Collaboration Ale (2015)
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IPA - American
3.69 | pDev: 11.11%
Tröegs Brewing Company
Pennsylvania, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
717 Collaboration Ale (2015)717 Collaboration Ale (2015)
Notes: Collaboration with Appalachian Brewing Company & Pizza Boy Brewing Co.

Some of the brightest ideas have come to fruition when friends share stories and a few laughs over a beer. Whether Central PA natives or transplants, we've been brought together in the (717) with one common goal - to brew great beer among great company. (717) Collaboration Ale blends the dry-hopped characteristics of an IPA with the sweetness of local honey, saison yeast and a hint of tartness. The vibrant aroma and bone dry finish come straight from the hearts and minds of Tröegs Brewing Company, Appalachian Brewing Company and Pizza Boy Brewing Company.
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woodychandler from Pennsylvania

2.74/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.75

I apologize for taking so long to review this one! It really should be retired by now & I will send an update to recommend such action. I had some during the inaugural Harrisburg Beer Week and I was not, shall we say, impressed. Too many moving parts? Too many cooks? Too too? Je ne sais pas, but I do know that as an AIPA, it was wholly lacking initially. I CAN only hope that it has improved with the passage of time.

From the Crown CAN: "Some of the brightest ideas have come to fruition when friends share stories and a few laughs over a beer. Whether Central PA natives or transplants, we've been brought together in the (717) with one common goal - to brew great beer among great company. (717) Collaboration Ale bleands the dry-hopped characteristics of an IPA with the sweetness of local honey, saison yeast and a hint of tartness. The vibrant aroma and bone dry finish come straight from the hearts and minds of Tröegs Brewing Company, Appalachian Brewing Company and Pizza Boy Brewing Company."; "[Undersigned] Terry Hawbaker Brewmaster Pizza Boy Brewing Co.[;] John Trogner Brewmaster/Co-owner Tröegs Brewing Co.[;] Artie Tafoya Brewmaster/Director of Operations Appalachian Brewing Co."

I proudly Crack!ed that CAN open as a life-long resident of the 717, but knowing its age, a gentle Glug was in order. A swirl in the glass raised a finger of foamy, tawny head with decent retention. Color was Amber (SRM = > 7, < 9) with NE-quality clarity. Nose held the same musty, saison-like scent that it did initially. Why did they do this? It really detracts from the beer & especially when they call it an AIPA! Maybe as a Belgian/White IPA, but even then, I have had far better examples. It just smells like old newspaper from the attic. Mouthfeel was medium. The taste was tart, kind of grapefruity, but with an odd tang that was also inappropriate for the style. There was also a CANdy-like quality that put me in mind of Sour Patch gummies. Ugh. Finish was dry, tart, tangy, but nothing like an AIPA. I know and respect all of the collaborators, but this was just not making it for me.

Feb 26, 2016
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pkalix from California

3.56/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I don't agree with the classification of this being an "American ipa".... tart, sweet, tangy-bitter, musty.... definitely some hops but not an ipa... 'course, it might just be old, too.... but, with that being said, the can does state it is "tart" and uses "all natural ingredients" so i believe they knew what they are doing and this is what they tried to create. and it really does taste pretty good when you know what you're expecting. so how does it classify?

Dec 15, 2015
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BeerSamurai34 from Texas

3.95/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one was just ok for me. The balance seemed a little off and was a little too bitter for me. I got some nice hop character on the nose, but didn't get a lot of the fruitness and juiciness on the drink.

Oct 28, 2015
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KTCamm from New Jersey

3.85/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

9/5...brewery draft. Bright gold, low foam, active bubbles. Pine and grapefruit notes. Malty base and a hoppy grapefruit surround. Smooth feel. Tangy and bitter finish. Tasty and well balanced.

Sep 12, 2015
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Gavage from Nevada

3.81/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: golden yellow - orange in color with a nice 1" head.

Smell: citrus and some sour funk rises from the glass .

Taste: caramel, lemon zest, some earthy tones, some spiciness and a bit of funk is balanced with some hearty bitterness.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied beer. Crisp from start to finish with a long lasting aftertaste.

Overall: this is a slower sipping IPA that is definitely unique.

Aug 21, 2015
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CraigP83 from Minnesota

4.3/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Rich yellow, leaning more toward a clear but still has a little haze. Smell is oranges and other similar citrus. Slight barnyard funk with sweet honey at the end. Taste is again honey, reminds me of the clover flavored honey sticks you can get at most apple orchards. A little stickiness on the feel, a bit too sweet. Good end of summer beer.

Aug 16, 2015
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MightyMan from Pennsylvania

4.35/5  rDev +17.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I wonder if this beer is maturing.... I get a musty aroma. Like a damp cellar full of overripe fruit must. Fruity funky aroma follows through to the taste that is juicy, honeysuckle and ripe stone fruit. I feel like the hops, although there with a peachy , floral bouquet, have taken a back seat to a growing funk in this candied sweet bready malt and spicy yeast cocktail.

I think what may be misleading is the American IPA classification ... this is a funky hoppy saison / vienna lager hybrid (albeit assumedly without any lagering....). I bet this one is brewed with Vienna malt and a unique, mild strain of Brett... perhaps Brett B Trois. in addition to the saison yeast. The honey adds a residual richness to the hops and malt that makes this beer slick, flavorful and complex.

As a Troegs fan I am enjoying the influence of this collaboration. Perhaps my rating is a bit inflated due to my enthusiasm for the direction of where this beer is going, but I gotta say ... I dig it!

Aug 13, 2015
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CHickman from New York

3.67/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

On tap at the Tröegs brewery, it pours hazy gold color with a 2 finger foamy off white head that faded slowly and left really nice foamy lacing coating the sides and rings as it went down.

Smells of sweet malt, caramel, biscuit, light brown sugar, floral hops, vegetables, cereal, yeast and a lager like sweetness that's less IPA and more ale or lager. Surprisingly tame nose for a Tröegs IPA, but the honey comes out after a while as well as the yeast. Nice twist on the style.

Tastes like it smells with sweet malt, caramel, biscuit, light brown sugar, yeast, floral hops, honey, cereal, Razzles or Tums, syrup and a lager like sweetness which has the chalky yeast essence. Not your typical IPA with the sweetness bending the style but a nice effort that's pretty tasty.

Mouthfeel is very smooth and almost creamy to watery, with very mild carbonation, a medium body and a slightly tart feel with the honey and yeast coming out at the end with a slight hop bitterness. Nice finish for a nice experimental IPA.

Aug 07, 2015
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2dogbrew from Virginia

3.58/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An IPA with a saison yeast, what's not to like? A great idea if you ask me but this one didn't work. I had it on draft at Troegs on Aug 6 and saw cans there that had a best by date of Aug 15. Perhaps better when fresh, but was disappointed with this.

Aug 06, 2015
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DIM from Pennsylvania

3.31/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

This was an odd one. Lots of disparate elements that just didn't jibe for me.

My cans are few months old now, so the hops have faded to vaguely citrusy potpourri. There is an herbal tea note, some green apple, and a lingering tartness that fades into a too strong clove note. This may have been better with a fresher, more vibrant hop character, but as it is now this is a miss for me.

Jul 28, 2015
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sulldaddy from Connecticut

3.82/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Reviewing this brew from a cold growler that im letting warm up and breathe a bit. Poured into a snifter, the beer is a fairly clear copper hue with a bit of a blush pink highlight when held up to a light. Foaming bleached white head of 2 cm rises on the pour and fades to a sturdy edge layer slowly during my sampling. Some large windowpane lattice on the glass.
Aroma is fairly complex with some floral notes and a bit of citrusy grapefruit. I also get a bit of tart fruit and some biscuity yeast. Enjoyable and appealing nose.
First sip reveals an average body with fine and tingly carbonation. Flavor is a bit of toffee and again some tart fruit, not quite ripe raspberry? I also get some bready biscuit notes and a good dose of citrusy hops. Not quite rindy bitter but more of an orange note and a slightly pine dryness. No hint of booze anywhere as I sample and the beer is easy to drink.
I enjoy this beer, but I really have no idea what the style is, very complex, but a little messy in the flavor.
The beer is worth a try for sure, so grab some if you see it.

Jul 25, 2015
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Tucquan from Pennsylvania

3.57/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Had this on 2015-07-20 in Columbia, PA from a 16oz can.

A - Clear golden-orange with a 2-finger white head that fades pretty quickly leaving mild lace.

S - Saison-perfume-yeast, cracker, light citrus, flower and herbal spice.

T - Tart stone fruit, tangerine, orange zest, pepper, herbal spice, light malt, pine. Fairly bitter with enough residual fruit sweetness for some balance.
M - Light-medium body and medium carbonation. Sharp. Astringent. Dry.

O - It's unique; with a flavor I've not had before. It's an assertive taste combining sour, spice and bitter.

Jul 20, 2015
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Kurmaraja from California

3.64/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

The smell is excellent - the honey comes through, very floral. The saison yeast notes are also there. Very promising. Unfortunately, there's a slight skunky note in the finish that becomes a major detraction. Solid beer, nice riff on IPA, but didn't quite cohere.

Jul 20, 2015
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Slack from Virginia

4.11/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Copper to amber in color with a fraction of head. No visible lacing.

Smell is sweet honey, pine, citrus, and yeast.

Taste is bready, honey, lemon, and a hoppy finish.

Mouth is light with medium carbonation and a slightly oily finish.

Overall a decent beer which is an interesting combination more reminiscent of a golden ale on top a IPA. Very easy to drink.

Jul 12, 2015
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MadCat from New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Look: Pours a nice golden yellow color with a short white head

Smell: Citrusy hops dominate the aroma

Taste: A strong citrusy hop flavor with hints of tartness and spice

Feel: Medium body, good carb

Overall: Good if it is billed as an IPA, but this was billed as a slightly tart hoppy saison. The hops overwhelm the subtleties of the saison yeast and the tartness. This misses the mark for me

Jul 06, 2015
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scottfrie from California

3.67/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

16oz can into tulip. Thanks again StormKing47.

A: Pours a clear light caramel color with a fluffy and dense off-white head that slowly faded into an airy film. Chunks of sticky lace were left down the glass.
S: Grapefruit and citrus hops, lightly tart and spicy yeast. Dry smelling with faintly tart hints of lemon and green apple skins. Honey sweetness on the nose is noticeable, especially at warmer temperatures.
T: Great light tartness mixed with a clean hoppy profile. I get notes of green apple, grapefruit and tangerine hops, with spicy and peppery Belgian yeast in the finish. Tart flavors are reminiscent of white wine. Honey sweetness pokes through as the beer warms.
M: Crisp and clean mouthfeel, medium-light body, smooth and tingly carbonation. Dry finish with lingering spice.
O: Very crisp and refreshing. I enjoyed the tartness alongside the spicy yeast. Thanks again Josh.

Jun 29, 2015
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57md from Pennsylvania

3.54/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A collaboration between three breweries that I really enjoy. Slam dunk, right? Sadly, wrong.

Reddish copper in color. Nose is hoppy with a trace of sour. The flavor is too tart for the style. Not sure what the theory was here but it simply did not work.

Jun 21, 2015
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flagmantho from Washington

3.68/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 16oz tall can into a dimpled mug.

Appearance: rich orange hue with no haze and a moderately strong effervescence. Head is a finger of frothy ivory foam; I think it's quite attractive.

Smell: piney, herbal, and a little bit dank but with a bite of some kind. Not bad, per se, but a little weird.

Taste: much like the aroma, although not as subtly off-putting. Definitely piney and a little herbal; bitterness is kind of mild, considering. That said, it's not half bad -- just different.

Mouthfeel: medium body with a good level of carbonation and creaminess, especially for the style.

Overall: the kind of weird piquant-but-not-sour character of this beer negatively impacts the drinkability, but it's still an interesting brew. Worth trying if you like weird and piney.

Jun 10, 2015
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dbl_delta from Pennsylvania

3.55/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Can dated 4/13/15 (about 2 months old) into pint glass. Clear golden amber color with moderate carbonation. Taste is too fruity for me - kind of like apple cider and an IPA mixed together, with a slight malty up-front sweetness? At least the alcohol is well hidden.
Collaborations are quite the rage right now, but sometimes too many cooks spoil the broth. Stick to your (separate) strengths, guys.

Jun 07, 2015
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Alieniloquium from Florida

3.12/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

16 oz. can poured into a pint glass.

Appearance - Clear orange body. Medium white head. Good retention.

Smell - Yeasty and estery. Sweet caramel and honey. Some slightly grassy hops.

Taste - This is all over the place. Sweet caramel malts. Strong fruitiness, like green apples. Lots of yeast flavors. Hops behind the sweetness and malt. Tart finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. High carbonation.

Overall - I don't know what to think. It seems like the type of a beer that does not benefit from close analysis.

May 31, 2015
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Jeffwise from Pennsylvania

3.89/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A good beer.. The taste to me is similar to nugget nectar with a little more bite and a little more sour. I can't lie, a little bit disappointed considering everything pizza boy I've ever tasted had been nothing short of amazing. So I guess it's Appalachians fault haha

May 08, 2015
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Stater from Pennsylvania

4.14/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Unique yet tasty brew. Difficult to classify and need to drink 2 to get your head around it, IMO. Sour, sweet, hoppy. A melding of flavor that defines collaboration. Going to be a great warm weather brew.

May 06, 2015
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cpetrone84 from Pennsylvania

3.31/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Pour is a transparent deep golden amber with a good tight white head that has decent retention. Nose is super hoppy, herbal grassy hops. Light lemon and some tangy saison yeast with hints of pepper. Flavor is a little sweet with a juicy feel and moderate carb. Sweet candied lemon with a tangy yeast, more peppery spice than the nose around mid palate, more sweetness and then a grassy bitter hop finish.

May 06, 2015
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Slatetank from Pennsylvania

3.42/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

I enjoyed this from a can poured chilled into a glass.

The color is medium amber-golden bordering on rosy with pale head with fine bead and no lace but clarity is excellent as well as retention. The smell is semi-fruity with hoppy smell and citrus with slight pine and zest odor with twang of saison yeast and light bready scent. The feel is my least favorite part with mix of yeasty and hoppy but sort of clashes with medium high carbonation and moderate bitterness with semi-dry finish.

The flavor has a good amount of hops up front with citrus yet a slightly dry flavor with mild medicinal edge with yeast and spicy contrast with low malt to pick up the slack with a mild tangy juicy and spicy blend with earthy almost wild/grassy element in the finish which becomes less enjoyable as it warms. Overall this was ok, but not worth repeating -a real style bender and doesn't really accomplish either very well -Ipa/saison to me it just falls short.

May 03, 2015
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Nostradrunkus from District of Columbia

4.57/5  rDev +23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The IPA hoppiness meshes well with the elements of the saison yeast for a brew with great complexity, and the finish brings on a complementary slight funk. Color is a little darker than expected due to the local malts, but this is a very well put together brew that displays the strengths of each respective brewery. Overall very strong.

May 03, 2015
717 Collaboration Ale (2015) from Tröegs Brewing Company
Beer rating: 84 out of 100 with 144 ratings