Scratch Beer 33 - 2010 (Saison De Mueze) | Tröegs Brewing Company

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Scratch Beer 33 - 2010 (Saison De Mueze)Scratch Beer 33 - 2010 (Saison De Mueze)

Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Belgian Saison

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Starting with a blend of pale malt and wheat along with honey malt - a pale Canadian barley with a distinctive sweet finish - Scratch #33 includes orange peel, coriander, elderflower and honey bush for a subtle fruit balance that complement...s the pepper zest of Saison du Pont yeast. Following the boil, the wort passed through our hopback (filled with spices) and then began a rapid ferment at a higher than typical temperature for an ale yeast. Following fermentation, Scratch #33 was bottle-conditioned with Westmalle yeast and warm-aged for two weeks to create a vibrant carbonation with an effervescent finish.

Added by Kegatron on 09-10-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 90 |  Reviews: 79
Reviews by xnicknj:
Photo of xnicknj
4.03/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

on tap at troegs during the splinter blue release.

A - Pours a hazy, cloudy golden orange with a bubbly head which leads to spotty film and wispy lacing along the tulip glass.

S - Belgian yeast, mild funk, spice, dryness, and a dash of sweetness.

T - Begins highly yeasty with some funky undertones, similar to the traditional style. Turns slightly spicy with a touch of herbs but a washing flavor of sweetness balances it out. The finish is slightly bitter, sweet, and dry all at once.

M - Medium body, slightly chewy, bubbly, and dry stickiness.

D - Drinks pretty easily but the dryness and spice might slow people down a bit, despite the delicious qualities.

Surprisingly tasty take on the style from Troegs here, especially with the balance between spice, sweet, and alcohol. I was psyched enough to pick up a six pack.

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Photo of Mora2000
3.46/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to StormKing47 for sending me this bottle.

The beer pours a yellow-orange color with a large white head. The aroma is very fruity and very sweet. I get quite a bit of orange and Belgian yeast, along with some candy corn and circus peanut notes.

The flavor is better than the aroma. I get a lot of orange citrus notes, as well as some sugary sweetness and some Belgian yeast notes. The alcohol is well hidden.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

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Photo of glid02
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Grant - much obliged!

The bottle opens with a gush and pours a hazy golden color with a two-finger white head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of light and moderately sweet malts with good amounts of grassiness and earthy hops. Also present are ripe pear flavors and hints of indistinct spices.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Light malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by bright pear flavors. Midway through the sip the flavors dry out a bit with the addition of slightly grassy and leafy hop flavors. Finally, hints of spices - more floral than anything - make a brief appearance before fading out and allowing the hop and pear flavors carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's got a nice thickness however the carbonation is on the heavy side.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall this was a good beer for the style considering it was made in the U.S. Not worth seeking out but worth a shot if you see it around.

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Photo of mdaschaf
3.83/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to THECPJ! Review from notes 1/16.

A: Pours a hazy dark amber with a very thick three finger head, very slow dissipation. Leaves splotchy lacing.

S: Zest lemon, a distinctive Belgian spice aroma, a little bit of yeast. There is a slightly musty hay aroma as well.

T: Tastes sort of like a hefe with the coriander. There is some pepper and a little bit of fruit as well.

M/D: Lighter bodied with some bubbly carbonation. Has a dry finish. Overall, pretty good.

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Photo of Stigs
3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from the brewery, served in a Stone Levitation glass

A - pours with an almost obscene amount (near 2 inches) of thick and creamy, slightly off-white foam. the beer is just a bit cloudy, was careful not to pour out a layer of dormant yeast at the bottom of the bottle. some moderate wet patches of lace left behind. dark gold, slightly amber in color...a bit dark and its only visual fault.

S - grainy, lemon zest dominates. distinctive Belgian spice, some black pepper and yeasty "crunch" to the nose. sweet and fruity notes of coriander, orange, and green apples. a slight mustiness and a hint of bubblegum found in a number of beers of the style.

T - noticeable right away are the adjuncts added, coriander is present and just carries on and on. the peppery zest of DuPont yeast is definitely there, but this is lacking the characteristic hop profle to keep it tame and delicious. there is actually almost a complete lack of hops here. its not bad, just reminds me of a homebrewed experiment with too many ingredients gone slightly awry.

M - light bodied, but supported by big and strong tingly, bright, effervescent carbonation. finishes very dry as it should, with a light lingering bitterness, and subtle fruity lemon and coriander.

D - not bad, yet had potential to be a bit better. i would just love with, minus just about all of the added spice, and plus some fresh grassy hops. great on the eyes and in the feel.

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Photo of nkersten
3.67/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle poured into NB globe... Thanks Chad! A very hazy burnt orange color with a two finger head, good retention but not a ton of lacing. Smell is a mix of the two yeasts, lots of fruity esters. A light malty sweetness but the belgian yeast strain definitley becomes the more dominant of the aromas. Not much in the way of adjuncts or malt in the smell. Taste follows smell - huge belgian yeast flavors up front, cloves, very spicy, some saison yeast follows, lightly sweet malt finish. Some roasted barley and european hops, but they are overshadowed by the intense yeast flavors. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a heavy active carbonation that is somewhat distracting. Overall, not a bad American take on a belgian, but I would like to have tasted more of the spices that were added to this brew rather then the spicy yeast. Needs a bit more balance.

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Photo of dirtylou
3.8/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

scratch #33 - thanks bert

appearance: served in my delirium chalice, murky copper body, foamy white cap with good retention

smell: lots of zesty yeast, wildflowers, honey, citrus, banana

taste: big yeast flavors, banana, citrus, a little light on the spicing, honey, floral, belgian candy sugars - not much in the way of funk unfortunately

mouthfeel: active carbonation, a little sweet

drinkability: good

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Photo of nickd717
3.95/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle thanks to StormKing47.

Pours a brilliant clear golden color with a large lasting white head and thick sticky lacing.

Very nice aroma, Belgian aroma with slight pepperiness and funk.

The flavor is nice and peppery, slightly funky, with pale malt and floral hops.

Medium body with high carbonation.

Solid for the style, or at least for an American version. I enjoyed this brewski quite a bit.

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Photo of Kegatron
4.17/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap @ the brewery on 9/9/10. Served in a cervoise.

Pours a cloudy burnt orange, topped with a finger of rich & foamy bright-white head. This retains with a frothy richness around the edges, along with some thinner wisps in the center, and leaving a cascade of thick patchy lacing down the sides of the glass. The aroma is sweet and spicy in the nose, with notes of fruit, honey, sugary bread, and an almost flowery lavender like scent. This also has a deep spiciness to it but the initial sharpness is tempered somewhat by all of the softer sweet accents that are present. Very complex nose here and I'm having a bit of trouble getting a handle on all of the different characters that are at work here. Still a very pleasant smelling nose on this though.

The taste is rich with sugary doughs, honeyed sweetness, and ripe fruits. A lighter feeling bitterness runs through this, spreading earth and citrus rind out into the profile. Much like the aroma, this has some very deep feeling spicy character but it's not coming off as overly harsh, being helped along by the flowery softness of the fruit and malt flavors. Loads of spicy dryness from the Saison du Pont just parches the back end and lingers long past the finish, along with some earthy mustiness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied overall but feels almost lighter thanks to a very soft and smooth creaminess to the carbonation. There is just enough of a light prickle present as well, which gives this some gentle crispness that dances a bit in the mouth. I'm picking up some light warmth about the feel but that's about it as far the ABV goes.

There a lot going on with this Saison but I was pleased to find that the mix of flavors mostly worked well together, keeping this quite tasty and accessible. This is definitely one of my favorites of the recent Scratch entries.

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Photo of morimech
4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very lively beer. Hazy bronze color with a massive head that held on for a long time. The head settles to a thick cap with a moderate amount of spotty lacing left on the glass.

Definate Belgian yeast aroma. Mild spice notes compliment the pale malt. Not as big as I was expecting but more traditional.

The flavor has fruit elements that were missing in the aroma. Yeast esters have hints of pears and apricots. There is a faint tartness before spice comes in the finish. Has some nice complexity.

The carbonation is not harsh despite being very lively. Has a nice texture and mouthfeel.

I was expecting a lot more spice from the brewing process but the result is a slightly tart, fruity saison.

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Photo of SamuelJackson45
4.25/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A- A light rust cooper look.

S- Bread yeast and herbs.

T- Taste of herbs and yeast very flavorful.

M- Semi dry taste of herbs and yeast through out the sip. Smooth with a bready texture.

D- This is a must beer to try although you have to head down to Troegs to get mainly. John and Chris Trogner got a good thing going with their beers. Very good stuff.


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Photo of akorsak
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A growler freshly filled this afternoon.

A: The saison has a golden orange glow, hazed but bright. Darker but by no means dark, this saison curiously lacks a head despite a finger of foam on pour.

S: While I am admitted stuffed up a bit from the Splinter Blue release, the herbal wall of aroma can't be denied. Witbier aromas, orange peel and coriander, mix with fuller, wilder scents. Honey sweetness follows. A treat for the nose.

T: Pale malts, not really much of a factor in the nose, create a bready surface for the rest of the ale. Each sip delivers strong orange peel flavors, along with peppery coriander. The additional herbs are quite flavorful, even if they depart from the saison mold. While the bottle was well-carbonated, this growler is a little less so. The result is that the flavors linger much longer on the palate.

M: The mouthfeel is musty, unusual with the herbal burden thrust upon it. While the nose is lush, I prefer the muted intensity of the taste when my nose is a little stuffy.

D: An interesting saison. If nothing else, try it for the unusual herbal profile.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
2.49/5  rDev -36%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Southern Tier tulip. There's a long numerical code on the bottle but no clear date or info.

Thanks to Thorpe429 for this Scratch!

A - A quick, short pour unleashed a four-finger, effervescent bone head with low retention and no lace. Cool gunsmoke from the cap release though! Bright hazy goldenrod orange in color.

S - Heavy notes of dry cardboard and chalk dust from clapped chalk-board erasers lines the otherwise decent aroma. Yeasty, but Belgian notes are only are hint at, lemon grass and pale malt. Unappetizing and fairly offensive in the end.

T - Pale malt and hazy yeast with a very rustic, dusty flavor finish with a cooked corn DMS taste. Bad-tasting with a lack of any Belgian nuances, really. A touch of clay and banana esters.

M - Bright, spritzy carbonation and medium-bodied with a dry, chalky finish and odd lingering flavor.

D - Thankfully this is just a scratch beer, which I'm always excited to try. Missing the mark on almost every level, it's just not appealing at all.

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Photo of nataku00
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle poured into a tulip glass. Beer pours a hazy copper with two fingers of foamy head. Head dissipated quickly to a thin film, leaving no lacing. Plenty of tiny bubbles rising quickly from the bottom of the glass.

Nose if fruity esters, apple, bubble gum, biscuit malts. Yeast spice notes as the beer warms a bit.

Taste follows the nose, fruity esters and malt sweetness. A bit more caramel in the flavor than in the nose. Fairly dry finish with a lingering apple fruity ester flavor.

Medium body with plenty of fine carbonation, soft on the tongue but very carbonated.

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Photo of EgadBananas
4.12/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hazy, dark copper on the pour. The head was insane. My 20oz chalice wasn't enough to contain it. finally dissipated to a milky off-white, small layer that leaves some nice lacing.

There's some instant yeast funk on the beginning of the nose. Slightly tart, with some underlying citrus aromas. There's also some bread characters as well.

Taste is a bit more citrus than on the nose. Slightly bread sweet, finishing with a little bit of tart yeasty funk.

Feel is creamy, light in body, smooth, with ample carbonation.

Excellent drinkability.

I'm beginning to enjoy Saison's much more. I think they might be a good gateway for me into wilds...

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3.6/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2

$12 for the 6 pack at Tröegs tasting room. Consumed fresh, reviewed from notes.

A: An extremely long lasting head of 4 fingers overtakes the glass's boundaries on the initial pour. The cap is off-white in color and creamy/frothy in texture. The body of the beer is a medium dark shade of rustic orange, displaying cloudy if not murky qualities with light sediment. Lacing is fair to good.

S: Straw, bread and grains, all toasted, with honey adding to the sweetness of the malt bill. Heavily hopped, Saison De Mueze mixes floral notes with a strong presence of orange peel and lemon zest. The yeast strains are pedigree, and their contribution is an enormously complex, very loud profile of fruit and spice esters.

T: On the palate, spices include pepper and coriander. Additional fruit flavors combine peach, pineapple, apple, pear and banana. The assortment of flavor is quick to impress although, by the end of the glass more subtlety is desired.

M: Light tart and lightly sour. Bottle conditioning creates a vibrant, high level of effervesence which does a fine job of cutting through what would have otherwise been a syrupy texture.

D: Intense flavor is this beer's strength as well as it's weakness. Unfermented sugars cause an unwanted, overly sweet finish which ultimately conflicts with the long-term enjoyment of this beer. Overall, Scratch 33 is a few tweaks away from becoming an excellent American interpretation of the saison.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.05/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

It was the scratch beer festival night! i had spent a good deal of time collecting these and finally tracked down the last of what i needed and put them all down in a massive tasting. Split with my brother in law and his buddy on 5/6, these were all split into 6 ounce samplers.

Great pour here just cloudy as could be with a huge head of white that seriously looked like it could go on for ever. Settling down after a few moments it left quite an impression on the sides of the glass and really left some nice, intricate lacing all along. Aroma is light grassy notes, pears, apples, touches of a light peppery spice and lots of grain that seemingly brought it all together. As I take the first sip, a wave of light, well carbonated and crisp, clean flavor washes across the palate. Light grasses, heather, herbal flowers, touches of spiced apple and a light tartness that cleans the palate quite well. Very smooth as each sip is seamless and very easy to finish. Long, dry ending leaves you thirsty, yet satisfied and allows the subtle fruit notes to really pop.

Overall a very solid Saison

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Photo of blackie
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

a: piraat chalice, murky orange-amber in color, the pour producing an ample layer of off-white carbonation, gradually receding

s: pale body with honey malt lending a light sweetness, stone fruit, very floral/herbal and with lots of spicy yeast, coriander and orange zest are obvious

m: highly carbonated, nearing abrasive, and light-medium in body

t: wheat malt lends a crisp underpinning with some sweeter pale and honey malts, yeast, melon, herbal hops, clear notes of coriander, bitterness on the high side for the style but enjoyable, zesty pepper in the finish compliments of the yeast strain, there's lots going on here and I can appreciate that - but it comes across messy at times

d: didn't much care for my first bottle, but it was pretty young then and seems to be coming together a bit, still a little sweet and not exactly a graceful saison, and definitely not traditional (who cares?), but a drinkable beer regardless

picked up a sixer at the brewery

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Photo of WeisGuy
4.02/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from StormKing47 -- thanks, Josh!

a - pours a deep, cloudy, burnt orange color, pretty dark for a saison, huge frothy white head that settles down into a smallish head, good lacing, lots of bubbles

s - lots of orange peel and coriander on the nose with nice notes of black pepper and mint, there's a unique herbal character, very yeasty as well

t - strong orange flavors up front mixed with black pepper and honey, the coriander is more subdued on the palate than in the nose, quite yeasty, orange and spice carry through the finish along with a subtle honey sweetness and an earthiness, alcohol is only slightly noticeable

m - medium-to-light bodied with higher carbonation, relatively well-balanced finish with the honey character counteracting the black pepper dryness, not much alcohol warming, very crisp on the palate

d - the spices are subdued enough to keep this fairly drinkable, flavors are interesting and there is good depth, pretty refreshing

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Photo of Tyrawlings
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of twiggamortis420
3.53/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle courtesy of G11 and dashirey, who both sent me a bottle of this. Pours a dark gold, bordering on amber, with a fat cap of tan-ish foam. Loudly and slowly fades leaving a little lace behind.

Nose is rich grainy malts with a biscuity edge and definite sweetness. Yeast throws off some aromas, but some spicing comes through as well, I think some coriander.

Flavor shows definite spicing and even a decent amount of hops. Kind of offsets the sweetness and relatively heavy body for a saison. Both the spices and the malt subdue to yeast influence, which is a bummer because what esters I do get are pretty nice. Mouthfeel is very soft and the high carbonation is nice and delicate. Lends a creamy feel to it, which might be the beer's best attribute. It is a good beer, but I like a drier, crisper and more farmhouse-y saison.

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Photo of Axic10
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 12oz bottle into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Pours a hazy dark golden with about two fingers of thick fluffy foam that took a while to settle down.

Smell: Coriander, orange peel, tart apples, pepper, yeast and a nice hint of funk.

Taste: Orange peel, coriander, pepper, sour apple, funky yeast.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and carbonated nicely.

Drinkability: Very good take on the Saison style by Troegs. Glad I picked up two sixers at the Splinter Blue release.

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Photo of oline73
4/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of DavoleBomb
4.32/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip.

4.0 A: Hazed dark orangish brown color. Two fingers of frothy/creamy hybrid head with good retention and moderate lacing.

4.5 S: This is just great. Orange peel, corriander, and a wonderful bouquet of herbs. Peppery yeastiness and a mild funkiness. Apple fruitiness. Sweet, but not too much so. Really nice.

4.5 T: Funkier than the nose. Same spice base with orange peel, lots of corriander, plenty of herbs, and peppery yeast. Wild apple and maybe a touch of peach. Overall, quite earthy with a good contrasting fruitiness.

4.0 M: Medium body. Higher in carbonation, but not irregularly so. Bubbly on tongue and otherwise smooth.

4.0 D: Definitely a solid saison. I might have to try to get more of this. For the price, there might not be a better example of the style out there.

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Photo of levifunk
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

bottle poured into chimay chalice

a - pour is dark orange with a large thick white head. nice lacing.

s - belgian yeast jumps out. banana and clove.

t - light floral hops. clove and light citrus fruit....almost sweet. bitter finish.

m - medium body with higher carbonation.

overall - not a huge fan of this style, and dislike clove, but this was better than i was expecting.

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Scratch Beer 33 - 2010 (Saison De Mueze) from Tröegs Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.89 out of 5 with 90 ratings