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Scratch Beer 42 - 2011 (Razz-ma-dizzle) | Tröegs Brewing Company

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Scratch Beer 42 - 2011 (Razz-ma-dizzle)Scratch Beer 42 - 2011 (Razz-ma-dizzle)

Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Dubbel

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by orangesol on 02-25-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 36 |  Reviews: 29
Reviews by SFLpunk:
Photo of SFLpunk
3.15/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

I can only assume this is the right spot to review this since Troegs website claims the "Belgian Brown" was Scratch #36, but mysteriously leaves out #34. Either way the bottle says "Bottling No. Belgian Brown." Thanks to stakem.

Pours a medium reddish brown with moderate off-white head. Smells like chocolate-covered cherry cordials, cherry coke and mahogany

Palate is drying and lacquer-ilke. Cherry skins, figs, dates and toasted nuts. A weird and complex oddity for sure. Don't think I like it at all.

Notes: Smells too good to be true and is. Wha-wun.

(Edit: Upon revisiting the aroma, I think this is infected, but I can't tell with what.)

EDIT: I moved this review per Stakem's suggestion. My notes make more sense considering the ingredients. Still don't think it was a good beer.

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Photo of Stigs
2.6/5  rDev -27%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

12oz bottle picked up from the brewery today, served in a Chalice

A - aggressive pour yields only a small amount of fizzy light tan foam, settling quickly to a thin ring with a couple random spots around the glass. the beer is crystal clear, light copper with a hint of red to it.

S - quite fruity, with some processed raspberry and strawberry. big kick of medicinal phenols. aspirin, children's cherry. some more sweetness as vanilla, bit of doughy bread.

T - full of raspberries from the start, but fakeness like pop-tarts or sugary cereal. everything else struggles to get past the cough syrup and acetone. no graceful dark fruits, no spicy yeast kick. belgian brown? nope. dubbel? certainly not.

M - medium bodied, moderate carbonation. finishes slightly sticky, a bit dry. lingering artificial sweetness.

O - my least favorite Scratch beer to date. this had better not be styled correctly because it lacks everything that a good Dubbel should have. too much fruit, and just nothing appealing in general. a miss.

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Photo of Kegatron
4/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap @ the Tröegs Brewing Company on 2/25/11. Served in a cervoise.

Pours a clear ruby and is topped with roughly a finger of foamy off-white head. This retains with some rich bunching on the edges and some thin wisps that skim the center, leaving back a frothy cascade that settles into some rich spotty lacing. The aroma has a big fresh raspberry bouquet on it, with a wave of cocoa, vanilla, and sugars creeping in to buffer the back of that fruitiness. Yeasty spice is prominent and works well with the raspberry flavors here in the nose, adding a festive sharpness to the fruit flavors.

The taste starts off with a fresh bite of those raspberries, with their tartness being tempered a bit by some subtlety sweet underlying notes of chocolate, vanilla, and doughy sugars. That Chimay yeast gives this a classic feeling dry spiciness that is felt the whole way through the profile that leaves this with a parched finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, maybe a touch fuller, with a lively effervescence to the carbonation that prickles the mouth with flavors and really throws that raspberry character around in the mouth. I'm picking up no alcohol here beyond that fullness in the body, as this is fairly easy sipper for the size and style here.

I liked this. The tartness of the raspberries kept this from being overly sweet and the Chimay yeast was quite busy, giving the profile a crisp dry spiciness that kept the flavors active in the mouth. This was relatively easy drinking for the size as well. I initially had some doubts about all of these flavors coming together but in the end it worked! I'm glad I picked up more than usual of this Scratch release.

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Photo of akorsak
3.67/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A growler fill from this afternoon. Served in a mini tulip.

A: The dubbel is lighter than most, more like a Belgian dark ale. It's brownish hue has redder tints that may or may not be related to the added raspberry. I've convinced myself of the redness, so let us move on. A small, off-white head lingered for 15 or so minutes before disappearing.

S: A bit of smoke and raspberry puree - the strongest aspects of the nose. Orangesol nails the Mad Elf with raspberries aspect, with vanilla lingering under the surface. Interesting, again much more of a dark ale in the nose department.

T: More raspberries, this time around through there are plenty of supporting characters. Cinnamon, musty Belgian yeast, vanilla and cocoa all follow in short order. The whole package has the same filling fullness of Mad Elf, only with raspberries instead of cherries. Cacao comes through in the finish, a dry chocolatey flavor. Good but I think that I prefer the cherry version.

M: The mouthfeel is Belgian, spicy with plenty of sweet additions. Raspberry and vanilla are most prominent, with chocolate lingering near the finish.

D: Too sweet and filling. A few sips, maybe a glass or two, are more than enough for me.

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2.99/5  rDev -16%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle to tulip. $4.00 for the single. Sampled 4/4/12.

A: Pours with a meager half finger high head, if that. Off-white in color and quick to disappear. The body is a murky burgundy brown, with next to no transparency, and very little movement or anything else noteworthy to report. Razz-ma-dizzle is rather-ma-dormant looking.

S: Big, sweet, juicy raspberry...concentrate. The sweet, artificial berry aromas take over the nose leaving only some caramelize sugars left in the background. Does not resemble a dubbel at all.

T: Straight fruit juice. And mildly tart. Even though the flavor is tasty, there is just something very wrong and very unnatural about a raspberry spiked dubbel. Even though the flavors *do* technically compliment each other, I can't get on board with this.

M: Medium light body - way too thin for the style. Carbonation is adequate, however, and provides a tingling sensation across the tip of the tongue. Slick texture from midpalate on.

O: I wasn't a big fan of this beer when it was first released on draft and my experience with this bottle was even less enjoyable. Bottom line: This beer isn't going to get any better so, if you have any left, best to drink them now.

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Photo of mikesgroove
3.88/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It was the scratch beer festival night! i had spent a good deal of time collecting these and finally tracked down the last of what i needed and put them all down in a massive tasting. Split with my brother in law and his buddy on 5/6, these were all split into 6 ounce samplers.

Very nice, light pour with a medium pinkish soft haze to it. Nice finger high head of off white comes up and over the top, settling down gently with soft bubbles around the edges and rich carbonation throughout. Nice aroma, fruit very front on this one for sure, but still nicely balanced with light bready notes, hints of cloves and light grain all coming together nicely. Soft banana and a hit of spice. This carries over well into the flavor which has that nice fruit favor, berries and a nice peppery kick to it. Again mellow with everything being very well rounded and smooth. Great start Belgian here as it gives you a good sense of the complexity without being terribly overwhelming. Very nicely done. Smooth even flavor gives rise to a wonderful dry finish that really just begs to be session able.

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Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev +5.3%

Photo of oline73
3.92/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had this on-tap at the Troegs brewery.

Appearance: Pours a ruby/brown color. The beer is cloudy with a very little bit of off white head. The head goes away and leaves some lacing.

Smell: The smell is very faint. There is some raspberry and sweet malt. The sweetness reminds me of honey.

Taste: This one has less sweetness than it does in the smell. Initially I'm picking up the raspberry, and some spice from the yeast. The chocolate comes at the finish. I would say it is a tiny bit watery.

Mouthfeel: A bit thin and quite dry at the finish.

Drinkability: Overall I really like the use of raspberry in this beer. The fruit blends well with the other flavors. This is a solid beer.

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Photo of hoosierfan
3.5/5  rDev -1.7%

Photo of dbexpert
5/5  rDev +40.4%

Photo of drtth
3.5/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into an imperial pint glass. Glass of cold water on the side to sip from periodically.

Appearance: As poured the beer is a clear, rich chestnut brown with a light tan head that soon recedes to a small ring and a large patch of foam that partially covers the surface and leaves no lacing on the sides of the glass. Sipping leaves some scattered speckles of lacing and a sheet of foam that slides back down to the liquid.

Smell: Upon being opened the raspberry aroma is noticeable as it spreads into the room. In the background there is a bit of brown sugar and a touch of vanilla.

Taste: The initial dominant flavor is raspberry followed up by a touch of brown sugar and a tinge of bitterness from the hops. There is some nice cocoa flavor and filling things out there is some light spciciness along with the tartness from the raspberry.

Mouthfeel: The mouth feel is on the light side of medium bodied and the carbonation creates a light, prickly feeling. The finish is medium length, begins in the raspberry/brown sugar sweetness but the tapers off to a tart fruit dryness at the end.

Drinkability and Overall Impression: I find the drinkability is a bit mixed here in that while I think this is an interesting beer, I’m not saying to myself that I wish I’d bought another six pack while we were at the brewery. So, effectively, I’m fine with having tried it but wouldn’t really go out of my way to have more of it. My overall impression is that this was an attempt to explore what Mad Elf would be like if made with raspberries rather than cherries. For me it doesn’t quite come together in the way Mad Elf does, so I’ll happily wait for my next case of Mad Elf in preference to this beer.

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Photo of rfgetz
3.5/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazed chesnut color with some stronger red highlights against the light, frothy head. Mild muted scent, raspberries and cheap sugary milk chocolate with touched of musty grain. Taste follows schent, berry taste is pleasent but there is a chocolate taste thats akin to a cheap peice of foil wrapped holiday milk chocolate. Medium bodied, uber frothy. Nice try, but didnt quite come together all the way.

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Photo of jlindros
3.9/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Tap at Armsby Abbey

Fluffy creamy lighter head fades at a med pace with lacing, hazy rosy maroon color.

Nose had fruit, raspberry and light cherry, sweet reddish berry fruit, hint of choc covered raspberry, light Belgian malts, light syrup and hint of candi sugar.

Taste comes with malts, caramel, toffee, hint of chocolate a raspberry choc, then light fruit with raspberry and light cherry, hint of vanilla, light Belgian malts and hunt of syrup, a bit of those choc covered cherry candies, hint of booze. Finishes a bit sweet but drier, sticky, lingering malts, caramel, fruit and hint of booze.

Mouth is a bit heavier bodied, decent carb.

Overall pretty good nice malts and fruit combo, nice mouth, a but boozy for only 7%.

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Photo of ohcomeonthatsfunny
3.5/5  rDev -1.7%

Photo of John_M
3.62/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the brewery yesterday.

The beer pours a fairly solid brown color with red hilights. Head retention is so-so at best, although there seemed to be adequate lacing otherwise. On the nose there is considerable spice, along with some cherry and rootbeer. The flavor profile generally replicates the nose in this moderately sweet beer, but with enough hoppy bitterness to counter that sweetness pretty well. However, mouthfeel is pretty thin in this beer, and frankly I was surprised to see the 7% abv. Drinkabilty was OK, but I found myself wishing for more flavor and richness in this beer.

Shrug. While not terrible, this was a pretty underwhelming effort from Troegs I thought. Easily one of the least impressive scratch beers I've had from them. I'm guessing it will be a while before they run out of this one at the brewery.

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Photo of Jesstyr
3.2/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Grabbed this on tap from Churchkey in DC. The waiter warned against it, and I should have listened. Served in a snifter.

First thing you notice is that this beer is quite red in appearance, not just your standard hue, but a full tint of red - not sure if this relates to the raspberry infusion. Head lingers nicely, with strong lacing. Nose is a little heavy alcohol, and has some cherry/berry type scent.

Taste is pretty weak, it doesnt have any of the strong belgian sugars of a dubble, or even fruitiness - its more of a light berry, without any balance. Mouthfeel is fine, but basically average for a dubble, with light carbonation. Overall not a good dubbel, but a decent dessert drink, if you like this sort of thing.

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Photo of EricCioe
3.5/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Adam H for this one.

This pours burnt orange-brown with a small but frothy eggshell head with decent lace. On the nose there is a gigantic hit of raspberries, perhaps a bit of leather. In the mouth the raspberries just don't seem like they have a whole lot backing them up. It's not bad, just lacking balance a bit. The body is medium or medium light, very wet, with the long finish of raspberry and slight leather.

Overall, this is a decent diversionary beer, but nothing I would seek out continually.

Originally posted under Scratch Beer 34. Thanks to stakem for clearing it up.

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Photo of Deuane
4/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Bright, crystal clear ruby tinted copper with a thin off- white head that reduced to a thin cap of retention and left spotty lace.

S-Spicy Belgian yeast character with a light twinge of tart raspberries, and a subtle dusting of cocoa. Very similar to Mad Elf with just a slightly different nod.

T-Spicy yeast up front melding nicely with the tart raspberries and mildly bittersweet chocolate. Some earthy mustiness on the backside.

M-Medium bodied with a soft feel and easy going down. fruit tartness is not overwhelming but does add a touch of character to the yeast.

D-My quote....like Mad Elf light with tart raspberries instead of cherries. So similar to the venerable Mad Elf it is scary. While this is certainly a good solid beer the lack of originality and uniqueness is a let down. With the offering of a chocolate/raspberry dubbel I wasn't expecting this...good but, I think I have seen this one before.

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Photo of InspectorBob
3.5/5  rDev -1.7%

Photo of haazer
3.51/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a 6 pack of this at the brewery St. Patty's day weekend. Poured this into a tulip glass, I think Dubbels are served better in tulips than goblets.

A- Pours about a half finger of really bubbly tan head, dissapates immediately. No lacing left in its place. Brew is well carbonated. This looks a lot like the mad elf but darker. A light amaretto color, grape skin with crimson red highlights.

S- You can definitely tell the Mad Elf yeast was used in making this probably without being told so at the brewery. The same spicy yeast profile is detected but not as profound. Enveloping around the yeast is some rasberry pieces dipped in chocolate. A little bready, and other dark fruits fade out nicely. I love the smell of this.

T- Upfront flavor is the mary jane taffy I pick up on in so many dubbels. Palatte transitions to the faintest hint of chocolate. It then becomes slightly one dimensional on the rasberry end. Rasberry is the dominant flavor, and leaves a fruity aftertaste. I think the chocolate was more pronounced on tap, and diminished after bottling.

M- Medium bodied beer. Good carbonation felt over the tongue with a relative smoothness. ABV not felt.

O- This is a good dubbel. Probably towards the middle of the pack for the style. I like the rasberry flavor, but the chocolate is left out in the bottle. The on tap version is better in my eyes.

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Photo of mcallister
2.88/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Love the looks of this ruby red bright with a small off white head that fades quickly into a foamy topper.

Belgian yeast, spice, clove, hints of raisin, raspberry, black cherry, earth, with some more fruit ester throughout.

Hmm odd beer here. Its very alcoholy in the mouth and full of fruit flavors. Raspberry, cherry, red currant, hints of raisin. Acidic and thin in the middle. Too much fruit on the finish just out of whack really. Spicey and an almost rye flavor on the finish as well. Very yeasty but out of balance.

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Photo of orangesol
3.62/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served on-tap in the Troegs tasting room into a goblet.

A - Pours ruby red, with hints of brown around the edges, with a small half finger tall white head, dissipating down to nothing at all, leaving little to no lacing down the glass.

S - Plenty of belgian yeast, raspberries, and some faint chocolate up front. Very similar to mad elf but with raspberries rather than the typical cherries. A bit of booze comes thru as it warms up but not as much as in mad elf.

T - Heavy dose of bready yeast up front giving way quickly to a mix of tart raspberries and some light chocolatey sweetness. The vanilla comes thru a bit more as it warms up a bit. Finish is pretty chewy with some lingering raspberry tartness. Very similar to mad elf but a bit more yeast in this one. I enjoyed this one but it really wasn't anything mind blowing.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderately low carbonation. Very chewy feel with a good bit of it mixing with the raspberry tartness to linger on the pallet for quite awhile.

D - Pretty good. I actually had a sample of this one before they added the chocolate and it was quite good. Now with the chocolate and vanilla added I think it took a step in the wrong direction. Still very good tho.

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Photo of stakem
3.73/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a goblet. This brew initially forms a finger of tan head that rapidly dissolves across the top of the brew. Faint spots of lace cling to the glass. A light swirl forms up a thin rim of lace that holds around the edges. Underneath the quick dissolving head is a liquid that appears very clear and ruby brown in color. As it was being poured into the glass it appeared more of a brown color but as it rests inside my glass it looks to be a more rich deep ruby coloration.

The aroma of this brew includes a very bright scent of raspberry right upfront that lasts throughout. It is lightly earthy and carries a character to it that is a mix of real fruit and a brightness about it that seems almost artificial as it dominates most of the characteristics of the aroma. As the brew warms up though, it displays a bit of the belgian yeast spiced aspect that accents the fruit addition. Very minor peppery notes as well as clove are the first real indications of this being a belgian style and not a fruit beer.

The taste includes belgian yeast character which is much more prevalent than the aroma would lead on. Right upfront is the taste of the yeast's contribution of clove, peppery spices and a touch of banana. Through the middle of the taste are the flavors of the raspberry. However, instead of the bright sweetness that the aroma displays, the taste is much more earthy and pitted that lends a light medicinal taste and herbal quality into the aftertaste.

This brew carries with it a very familiar aspect. Throughout the experience it keeps reminding me of something else that I just cant put my finger on. It is a medium to light bodied offering with a modest level of carbonation. The carbonation's appearance is lacking a bit, but it is well done and felt more-so throughout the feel. The level of inclusion of the alcohol is right inline with what you would expect 7% to be like. The alcohol's flavor is lightly felt throughout and comes out more with a warmth in the back of the throat with each sip. All in all it is a well put together offering but the description of this brew's ju-ju just screams stout to me, not dubbel.

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Photo of thain709
3.82/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Served with a ruby tinted copper body that had some clarity...the head was white, foamy, and stood one finger tall...it was short lived as it fell into a thin bead...little lacing

S - Raspberries are dominant...they are sweet and tart...there is also a yeast presence that's pretty strong...subtle cocoa

T - The flavors start off with the Beglian yeast strain...it provides a chewiness to the body...the raspberries, again, are sweet at first but end tart...as the beer warms the chocolate comes out towards the end

M - Medium bodied...tart with subtle cocoa...yeast provides a bit of chewiness...a little to carbonated for me

D - This was a Scratch beer that didn't blow me away...the raspberries were a nice addition as they were sweet and tart...chocolate was nice and subtle

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Photo of pecokid
2.88/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

I got a growler off the first keg in the tasting room and cracked it open the next day. Appearance is orangish-amber and very clear. One finger of head. Smell is all berry and no cocoa or vanilla. Very complex taste with the berry, cocoa and vanilla coming through. I also picked up some smokiness. I am not a fan of fruit beers and usually find them cloyingly sweet. While I appreciate the fact that the cocoa and vanilla easily apparent on this brew it is still too sweet for me. Mouth feel is moderate to moderate-thin with good carbonation. Drinkability is low for me. It is just too sweet. If I were a sour connoisseur I could easily imagine some interesting things to do with this beer in a barrel.

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