Scratch Beer 47 - 2011 (Wit [or Witout] Two) | Tröegs Brewing Company

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Scratch Beer 47 - 2011 (Wit [or Witout] Two)Scratch Beer 47 - 2011 (Wit [or Witout] Two)

Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Witbier

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.20%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Our second foray into the white ale world comes with a little less and a little more from our first endeavor. We’ve reduced the gravity a bit to lower the ABV but dramatically increased the pepper and coriander, as well as adding locally-grown, organic unmalted winter wheat. The coriander, sweet and bitter orange peel, black pepper and star anise were added to the hopback to intensify these diverse flavors. With a dense haze from the unmalted wheat and a foamy white head, Scratch #47 incorporates citrus and spicy aroma notes with a hint of licorice from the star anise. The spices are offset by a doughy taste and the Lachouffe yeast gives a cidery finish. Enjoy!

10 IBU

Added by orangesol on 09-01-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 23 |  Reviews: 19
Reviews by nhindian:
Photo of nhindian
3.7/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip. Thanks to russwbeck for this!

A - Pours a translucent, clear pale yellow with a ton of carbonation easily seen through the body. About 2-fingers of snow white head grows and is continuously fed by the bubbles to keep it alive for several minutes. The lacing is sticky at first but gradually falls back to earth.

S - The smell is pleasant, if not a little pedestrian for the style. Wheat, coriander, and cracked pepper lead the way, giving it a spicy, yet clean aroma. Some juicy orange tones come in later to give it a different kind of kick.

T - The flavors develop the characteristics that were present in the nose more thoughtfully, as everything seems a bit more fleshed out here. The wheat comes across as stronger, which is a nice change of pace from more aggressively spiced wits, as the coriander and orange peel are still present but take their time to rise and fall. I'm not getting as much of the pepper as I was in the nose, but that's fine with me as it still has spiciness to it.

M - The mouthfeel is moderately light-bodied with high carbonation. Clean and crisp, this beer leaves a dry finish that leaves the palate wanting more.

D/O - Drinkability is decently high. This is a refreshing wit that is nice and light while still delivering nice flavors. A very solid offering, but nothing really out of the ordinary.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of Kegatron
3.25/5  rDev -14%

Photo of DanJan
3.84/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Hazy yellow which is what you would expect. Solid head left some significant lacing over time.

S - Very pleasant and on par with the style. Lots of wheat and citrus notes (lemons and oranges I think). Some spiciness helps to balance things out.

T - Much stronger taste than expected based on the nose and the style. Couldn't place the exact details of the flavors but I thought they all worked well together and made the overall brew very enjoyable. Nothing feels overwhelming and it entices you to drink more.

M - Crisp and refreshing. I was surprised at how quick I finished my glass as it isn't my favorite style. The easy flavors combined with the low ABV of 4.2% makes this a very drinkable beer. Very refreshing on a warm day.

O - I liked this beer but didn't love it. Didn't end up buying a sixer but would certainly drink more of it.

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Photo of akorsak
3.88/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 12 oz bottle from the brewery. In a tumbler.

A: The witbier is hazy, appropriately so, with a muddled yellow color. The muddledness lends some darker hues, more browns, to the mix. A sizeable head, over two fingers, left ample white lace behind.

S: The nose has plenty of coriander spice, spilling into strong black pepper. Wheat and orange peel are also prominent, with a lemony citric aroma matching the orange. An inviting aroma but it lacks staying power, disappearing quickly.

T: The ale is aggressively spiced, with wheat lending a strong hand as well. The wheat is light but definitively citric. The spices are predominantly clove and coriander, a dual dose of peppery freshness. Sweet orange compliments the wheat and adds sweetness to offset the pepper. Bready wheat is a lasting flavor. As the ale warms, the spices become stronger and the wheat becomes more refreshing. A nice sipping witbier and a ridiculously low abv.

M: The witbier packs plenty of flavor, the pepper is especially strong late in each sip. I like the heat that comes with it.

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3.74/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle to tulip. Sampled 10/5/11.

A: Pours with 1 finger of loosely compacted foamy head, white in color and quick to recede. The body is a pale light yellow-orange, rather cloudy. No lacing.

S: Banana and bubblegum stand out on the nose with a subtle layer of clove a bit deeper. Really spicy with plenty of pepper and coriander coming through. Hopping is light, providing hints of bitter orange peel. Light nutmeg and nearly buried anise. Perhaps some cider. And maybe a little must too.

T: Lots of flavor when considering the low ABV. A melange of banana, bubblegum and clove greets the palate. The first two flavors fade leaving the clove to dominate the finish. Slightly lacking in depth or complexity.

M: Light body but not necessarily thin. Minerally texture with a lively, spritzy effervescence. Even with oats in the grist, the mouthfeel isn't very soft, round or full.

O: I like the use of La Chouffe/Ardennes yeast strain for a witbier. I thought it worked well - and with a better mouthfeel - this beer could have easily been very good.

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Photo of mindspin315
3.78/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Light pale yellow body. Head fades rather quick and looks like soap bubbles.

Standard witbier aromas...but everything seems a little more toned down than your traditional Belgian wits. Creamy vanilla, coriander, orange peel, and lemon. Fairly standard.

Very smooth and drinkable. Delicate spice that rides right along. Yeasty fruit flavor of banana is mild but there. The clove, coriander, and orange peel flavors continue all the way through this one. Medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation. Another solid execution from Troegs. I enjoy Dream Weaver a little more than this one though.


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Photo of mikesgroove
3.58/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

bright golden amber with a smallish maybe one finger high head of white fizzy lace that formed on top. Very hazy and cloudy

very light and bright with lots of yeast and wheat like aromas. There were some light hints of fruit and a touch of grassy and grainy qualities in it as well. Nice hints of peach and grss mixed in but both were very light and did not really contribute all that much to the overall approach. The finish was very dry and had an almost light wine like taste to it, very long and drawn out it was really very nice and a classic witbier

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Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev -0.8%

Photo of cwguy5
3.81/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to two generous traders that both included this as an extra. Poured into an over-sized wine glass.

A - hazy, pale, golden color with thin white head that left some spotty lacing
S - very little smell; maybe some banana, lemon zest and bread
T - bready wheat base with some lemon zest and some herbal components - maybe coriander; slightly peppery and herbal finish
M - very fine, active carbonation; light bodied and crisp mouthfeel with a juicy, peppery linger that fades pretty quickly
D - crispness and light body make this pretty drinkable; nice understated flavors - some wits can be too malty and heavy to me

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Photo of AngusOg
3.5/5  rDev -7.4%

Photo of scottfrie
4.35/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle into Portsmouth snifter. Thanks for the bottle Josh!

A: Pours a hazy lemony golden with a couple fingers of bright white head that held great retention the whole beer through.
S: Notes of peppery hops, chalky yeast, coriander, clove and light citrus. Spicy overall (spices, not heat).
T: Follows the nose with flavors of yeast and Belgian spices. The peppery flavors are spicy and refreshing. The finish is sweet and full of citrus and sugary flavors, and I’m getting just a touch of banana.
M: Medium-thick body with a thick mouthfeel, drying finish, and soft, bubbly carbonation.
O: Such big flavor and thick body for such low alcohol. This was a wonderful witbier, it’d be cool if it were available again.

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Photo of orangesol
4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-tap at the Troegs tasting room.

A - Pours hazy golden yellow with a frothy one finger tall white head, dissipating down to almost nothing, leaving spotty lacing down the glass.

S - Smells of spicy black pepper, coriander seeds, bananas, orange peel, and the ever present bready wheat. I know they put anise in this one but I really don't get much of it.

T - Starts off with quite a bit of chewy wheat quickly giving way to a mix of peppery spice, orange rind, and coriander. I see they added some star anise to this one as well but I really don't detect it very much. The finish is a mix of light spice and chewy wheat, lingering on the pallet for quite awhile.

M - Medium-Light body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Chewy, spicy, feel that lingers on the pallet for some time after the finish.

O - Pretty good wit. The combination of low ABV and lighter flavors have really made this one quite drinkable. I still don't like wit's all that much but this one was pretty good none the less.

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Photo of stakem
3.97/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at the Troegs tasting room. This brew appears a hazed light yellow color with a faint cap of white bubbles. Spotty lace sticks along the glass. A light swirl revives the cap back up to a finger's strength.

The smell of this brew initially is banana mostly with some hints of clove, green yeasty quality and indications of grassy herbal hops. Spices minorly like pepper fill out the back of the nose. Overall the aroma is mild for a wit which I enjoy probably the most because it isn't exaggerated or unbalanced in character.

The taste includes clove and banana right upfront with a light peppery spice. Some green yeasty quality is present throughout the profile. A mild supporting bready wheat grain base provides a mild tartness and crisp accent to the finish. The aftertaste is mildly herbal and bitter which is a nice contrast to the spiced quality. Once warm there is the faintest amount of anise present that lasts inside the mouth and would be easily missed if you didn't spend the time trying to find it in the profile. During the duration of this experience I hardly picked up on any lemony coriander character which was a welcomed change. Many wits I've had lately have been lemon bombs. Nice change of pace here.

This is light bodied and modestly carbonated offering. Overall a decent take on the style. There is seemingly no alcohol impact in this one. If wits are your thing, you could throw back a few of these quite effortlessly. I didnt feel the need to drink more than one or so of these so I didn't bother grabbing a six-pack like nearly every other scratch offering. Then again, I probably wouldn't be saying that if I just cut the grass or if it was warmer outside. Worth a try for sure.

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Photo of thain709
3.67/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Served with the classic unfiltered, golden body...two fingers worth of white head sat atop the body and receded to a spotty, thin cap...some lacing was left behind

S - Banana and wheat are there of course but there is a nice addition of some citrus in the form of orange and lemon...the leading spice is coriander

T - The wheat and yeast components of the beer jump out at you first...the citrus shines in the middle of the comes across as very bright but then the spice comes in...the spices, mainly coriander and a dash of pepper are light, but they knock down the citrus kick...the finish is full of creamy and chewy yeast

M - Medium's creamy and carbonated with a dash of spice and some chewy yeast

O - I don't remember the first Witbier attempt and I probably won't remember this attempt either...they say they added anise, but I did not pick up on any licorice...the citrus was nice as well as the mouthfeel

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Photo of SMason
3.7/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Had this one on tap at the brewery.

A - A light yellow color with a line of white bubbles across the top. Some quickly dissipating lacing leaves almost no head.

S - black pepper definitely and maybe some coriander. Spices for sure. Can't get any of the black licorice I expected from the anise.

T - I definitely get the pepper in the taste of spices which are just on the border of becoming too strong.

M - perfect for the style

D - I am a fan of witbier and was excited for this one but the spices were a little strong and took away from the style in my opinion. They might work in a higher abv but this one is only 4.20.

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Photo of russwbeck
3.61/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Absolutely see through yellow color with a thin white head that leaves spotty lacing. A nice amount of bubbles rise up from the bottom of my Mad Elf Goblet.

S: Very simple smell. Wheaty, sweet, orange, lemon, slight spices. The aroma is a bit muted.

T: The taste is pretty much as simple as the smell was. Lemon, orange, and spices. The spiciness is up front, followed by the fruits. Pretty sweet throughout, with nothing really coming to the forefront other than your typical Witbier ingredients.

MF: Light and crisp. High carbonation. Extremely drinkable.

O: Nothing special here. Glad I tried a bottle, wouldn't grab another.

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Photo of Slatetank
3.9/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I enjoyed a sample at the brewery's tasting room.

The color is cloudy golden with a thick pale white cream. The lace sticks ok and bead is fine. The smell is a mix of yeast esters and spice which gives a slight peppery and tropcial fruit aroma. The feel is nice with a pretty good balance of spice and malt with the yeast fairly fruity accenting the spice well with moderately high carbonation.

The taste is good, but I don't really get the anise which I expected. I am not complaining about that since I am not really an anise fan. The slight pepper and wheat quality is good. I enjoyed the smoothness of the wheat which was well balanced with some gentle yeast fruitiness which also brings a slight tart edge that I like. I recommend this and actually think I prefer it to the previous scratch wit. I like the fact they used local wheat in this

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Photo of Lawnboy33
4/5  rDev +5.8%

Photo of drabmuh
4.07/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a DFH snifter, I should do a better job at ticking these scratch beers. Oh well, from now on I'll try.

Beer is yellow and hazy with a thin white head, low retention but a lot of lacing, moderate carbonation. Looks good.

This beer smells exactly like La Fin du Monde, read my review of that to see what this beer smells like.

Yum...this beer is light with a mild sweetness, fruity midpalate and an overall great mouthfeel, wet throughout, there is a sweet / grainy aftertaste that is mildly unfortunate but outside of that this is a really nice beer. I'd have it again.

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Photo of Fubar1453
3.65/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pale yellow straw color, bone white head, very active.

S: Lots of lemon and a touch of sweetness.

T: Lemons and oranges with some surgar.

M: Soda like, very high carbonation.

O: A mediocre beer, I could see people liking this for the beach. Not for me.

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Photo of flannelman808
4.1/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Hazy yellow straw colored beer topped with a stark white styrofoam head. Good retention but no real lacing to speak of.

S: Coriander, banana, and Meyer lemon peel.

T: Spicy coriander up front, then mellowing into a sea of citrus, finally ending on a suggestion of green banana and grain. Pretty well rounded brew.

M: Prickly.

O: Actually this is a surprise for me and quite good for the style. This is delightfully light bodied and refreshing yet carries enough flavor intensity to be interesting.

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Photo of doughanson78
3.42/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a pint glass. Thanks to russwbeck for this one.

A: Light straw yellow with a medium haze. One finger fizzy white head that fades fast and leaves no lacing.

S: Banana, cloves, and a soapy hop aroma. A bit sweet.

T: Light caramel. Banana and cloves are light but present. Light lemon notes.

M: Very light body, slightly watery. Medium low carbonation. Slightly crisp.

O: Decent beer. Nothing bad. Just a very light beer overall. Very drinkable tho.

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Photo of Viciousknishs
3.7/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- pours a hazed orange color with a finger and a half of bone white head. Ok retention with some spotty lacing.

S- some bready dry malt aromas blend with a prominate corriander and sweet orange peel. Dusty yeast on the finish.

T- starts off with a crisp bready malt with a spicy white pepper note. Corriander and orange peel opens up in the middle. Finishes with chaulky dusty yeast.

MF- crisp smooth mouthfeel with a medium body. Bubbly carbonation.

D- really drinkable

overall a really nice wit that was a delight to drink.

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Scratch Beer 47 - 2011 (Wit [or Witout] Two) from Tröegs Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.78 out of 5 with 23 ratings