Scratch Beer 69 - 2012 (More Helles, Less Bock) | Tröegs Brewing Company

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Scratch Beer 69 - 2012 (More Helles, Less Bock)Scratch Beer 69 - 2012 (More Helles, Less Bock)

Brewed by:
Tröegs Brewing Company
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.60%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
More Helles, Less Bock is an easy-drinking lager that blurs the lines between Helles, Bock and Maibock styles. At 5.6% ABV, 21 IBU, and light straw color, Scratch #69 portrays itself as a Helles; but inside the glass lurks a more complex beer reminiscent of the Bock style. Aromatic toasted chestnuts and hints of honeysuckle flower present themselves before the first sip. After tasting More Helles, Less Bock you will immediately want more. The floor-malted barley gives an earthy flavor that pairs with the hints of bitterness from Tradition. The finish is sweet and malty, yet still refreshing; a light filtration adds bread notes at the end.

Added by orangesol on 06-08-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 49 |  Reviews: 23
Photo of Sammy
3.65/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle from Capone's. Starts out more bock, than finishes more helles. Pleasant enough than finishes more drinkable. A decent beer, but makes me long for something more hoppy, please. Medium yellow coloured body, a little lace. Good carbonation. Smooth, well rounded.

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Photo of nmann08
3/5  rDev -22.3%

Photo of WillieThreebiers
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of oline73
3.65/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had this on-tap at Max's. Served in a tasting glass.

Appearance: The beer pours a clear golden straw color with a small layer of off white head that goes away quickly.

Smell: Very malty. Lots of grain and some mild fruity grape notes.

Taste: This beer is very malt forward and full of bready notes. There is some grape sweetness going on here too. Mildly bitter in the second half of the sip, but that fades in the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy carbonation and a slightly dry finish.

Overall: This bock was good but rather unremarkable. I don't think I would want another.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.83/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

First has: on tap at TJ's, Paoli, PA

Clear, golden-straw pour with a small white head; moderate retention and lacing. Aroma wasn't too strong or distinctive, toasted grains, sweet malts, nutty. More of the same in the taste, toasted grains, malts, a touch of honey, bready, lightly citrusy, and a mild hop bitterness. Light-medium body, nice, but probably nothing I'd go back for.

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Photo of Kegatron
3.88/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap @ the brewery on 6/7/12. Served in a stange.

Pours a clear gold, topped with a rich ½ finger of bright-white frothy head. This stays robust, leaving back some thick spotty lacing behind. The aroma smells leafy, spicy, and citric, with maybe a touch of mineral notes as well. The malts and to a lesser degree, the ABV give a push up from the underneath, with sweetness and light warms propping those hops up nicely.

The taste definitely has a bit of a Bock-like thickness to it with sweet notes of honey and buttered toast. The hops here are actually fairly aggressive as well, with a bitter spiciness that spreads out and then green citrus character that works well with the malts. The finish on this is very dry with lingering notes of spice and bitter earth. The mouthfeel is medium, maybe just a touch fuller, with a silky smooth crispness to it that just prickles the tongue a bit as it glides along. There is a little beefiness to this along the back but that Helles side definitely brings it home in the overall feel department with a crisp and drinkable presence.

I liked this, as it definitely delivered what was promised here, with a bit of a sweet and beefy Bock character to it but then in the end the overall crisp and refreshing hop presence of a Helles wins out. This was really tasty and unique and I appreciate the experimentation here. This beer is what the Scratch series is all about IMO.

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Photo of Slatetank
3.91/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this on tap at Troegs, reviewed this before 70, but adding now from notes -served chilled in a stange at the tasting room in Hershey.

The color is golden, clear brilliant shade -a bright (helles)appearance with thick white cream with tiny bead and visible carbonation with excellent retention. Smell is very malty with some toasted pilsner malt aroma with subtle tinge of floral hops and light yeast ester which adds a bready element to the nose. The feel is very good, moderately full with bready and creamy yeast with subtle spice of hop and mostly dry body with moderately high caronation and finish is sem-sweet w/ slight tinge of bitter and mild toast/mineral in the background.

The helles is nicely balanced with some semihigh pils malt flavor with some herbal elements of hops which compliment the flavor well with mild yeast taste whichis dry and adds to the cracker-like malt wth spicy hints of hops and toast which trade off with mild alcohol in the final sips. The slight caramel element gives body and helps reinforce the bock part of the flavor with grainy grassy flavors in the finish.
Overall this is a great blend of both -blurring the lines of each style if you wanted a stronger helles or more drinkable bock this should fit the bill.

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Photo of orangesol
4.13/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served on-tap at the brewery.

A - Pours clear golden yellow with a nice one and a half finger tall white head leaving thin rings of sticky lace down most of the glass.

S - Smells of mildly toasted grain, caramel, herbal hops, toasted nuts and some light fruitiness. A flowery note creeps in as it warms up. Nothing too over the top, just a solid nose.

T - Starts off with the toasted grains quickly giving way to hints of caramel sweetness, herbal noble hops and some freshly toasted nuts. Finish is a little chewy with some caramel malt sweetness, lingering on the palate for a little while after consumption.

M - Light body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Crisp, chewy feel just like 64 but with a bit of extra sweetness. It took me a few extra sips to finish this one, still very easy to drink however.

O - Fairly similar to Scratch 64, maybe with a bit more sweetness this time. They have really been making some great German beers recently and this one is no exception. I will get my fill while it is around.

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Photo of stakem
4.15/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a matching Troegs branded pint glass. The brew appears a clear, light golden yellow color with a finger of white head. When held to the light, the brew initially looks to have polished clarity but a closer inspection reveals some fine particulate stuck in suspension. Rising bubbles of carbonation maintain a thin film across the top and as the cap fades it leaves a bit of webby lacing.

The aroma is sweet with a fresh biscuit-like grain appeal. The grainy quality never gets a chance to linger in the nose because a quick snap of herbal hops comes into play with almost a grassy to citrus aspect. There is a mild sulfur note thrown in there as well which rounds everything out.

The taste comes right out the gate with the biscuit-like grain aspect that was found in the nose. It lingers a while on the tongue with a bit of buttery diacetyl. Before the buttery quality has any time to stick, a mild fruity and floral quality comes in that mixes with some fresh hoppiness that provides a contrasting mild herbal bitterness. The aftertaste somewhat hints towards alcohol but the residual fresh grainy quality and hops dissolve that and really blend together nicely.

This is a medium bodied brew with a moderate level of carbonation that is just tight and crisp. It is very snappy, and clean in the mouth. I could effortlessly drink glass after glass of this. One of the best lagers that Troegs has released to date that I have had the privilege to try. My only gripe is the label text is a bit misleading to this scratch brew. Simply having "bock" listed on the label is a bit misleading. Someone looking for a typical bock might be upset. But for a helles/maibock that holds a description of less than bock, it is a fantastic interpretation. I need to get more of this! My only gripe is it has just a bit too much residual sweetness for me that hinders the drinkability and overall rating for me from being perfect 5's.

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Photo of ejimhof
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of drabmuh
4.25/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

At the time of this review, this is #25 on the "Top Beers Maibock / Helles Bock" list on A very nice beer from Troegs, a refreshing break from the endless parade of shitty IPAs the scratch beers have been lately.

Beer is yellowish and light in color, clear with nice steady moderate carbonation, white head, nice retention, looks good.

Aroma is clean, yeasty, mildly sweet.

A nice wet beer start to finish, quencing, nice yeast body, not as bready as you'd expect but a stand up solid lager, I'd have it again for sure.

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Photo of John_M
3.58/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Hudson St. stackhouse the other day.

The beer pours a solid gold color with good head retention and lacing. The nose is fairly attractive as well, showcasing bread dough, honey and light dry citrus. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely in this lightly sweet lager, and the mouthfeel is slick, smooth, medium bodied and lightly bitter on the finish. The finish is otherwise very clean, polished and refreshing in this nicely crafted beer, and alcohol is completely undetectable.

Quite drinkable and enjoyable... just wish there was a bit more going on.

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Photo of DrDemento456
3.97/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Not very impressive head a very thin layer, lacing is decent. Color is as expected for a Helles clear bright yellow.

S - Smells like roasted nuts, touch of caramel malts, and honey/flowers.

T - Taste is sweet and nutty with fruity tones of honey and lavender flowers. I really like how it's sweet but grain forward. Tasty stuff.

M - Medium bodied and kind of syrup like but goes down smooth.

Overall I was kind of disappointed at first to find this bock a touch light but it is a nice mix of styles and worth a try.

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Photo of akorsak
4.2/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

In a stange at the brewery. Two glasses in, I was in love.

A: The helles bock sure is light, a robust golden straw color that I can clearly see through. A steady stream of bubbles makes the long trek from the bottom of the glass to the top - all in support of a half finger of white head. Lacing follows in a predictable layered pattern.

S: The nose is bready with plenty of sweeter notes running around. Nuts and breads, a bit of toast, lead to sweeter floral aromas with a fruity finish. The malty side is dominant, but the hops and yeast manage to sneak a few pops in. Very robust without being to strong.

T: Plenty light but the lager sure has a great feel. The toasted breads are strong, biscuit and caramel along with some nuts. Hops follow with an earthy feel - almost like noble but with more citrus than herbs - and accompany the malts nicely. The lager has just a bit of fruitiness running around mid sip, light enough to be noticed but not so strong as to change the nature of the bock. The result is dangerously drinkable, a four star untappd call at that point. The finish brings more breadiness to the surface before riding off into the sunset.

M: Two stanges in and I was wishing that I brought along a growler. The lightness, flavorful without being too strong, hit the right notes for me. This one should have been part of the PBW to do.

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Photo of CheapBeerBuzz
4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

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3.25/5  rDev -15.8%

Photo of scottfrie
3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, 69 – Bock. Thanks for the extra Stormking47.

A: Pours a very light amber with golden highlights beneath a couple fingers of white active head. Head slowly faded into a soft thick film. Very active carbonation, patchy lace.
S: Lots of sweet malts, sweet smelling, hints of honey, with roasted grains and lager yeast as well.
T: Sweet again with a dominant grain taste. Sweet malts, caramel, toast, honey, lemon and lager yeast fill my palate. Finish is syrupy but not cloying, and the aftertaste is sweet and lightly spicy.
M: Smooth and very soft carbonation, medium-full body, chewy slick mouthfeel.
O: Smooth and sweet, slick and rich. Not a bad drink at all. Thank Josh.

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3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of stephenjmoore
3.68/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Crystal clear golden body with a thin white head of bubbles on the top.

S- Some pale malt aroma with a hint of bread and some fresh grass.

T- Malt comes through along with some favors of toast, citrus and a slight hop note.

M- Crisp and clean, good carbonation.

O- Good take on a helles bock. Crisp and clean with some interesting flavors.

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Photo of FosterJM
3.97/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1396th Review on BA
Bottle to Bock glass

Thanks to my RS guys Drknbeer & Stormking47 for this gift.

App- Golden, golden in color with lots of bubbles in the glass. A nice soft white two finger head that faded quickly. No real cling or lace.

Smell- A lot going on it this glass. A bit of bready malts, but yet herbal and somewhat of a yeasty quality with a bit of toast behind the nose.

Taste- I was thinking this was going to be a baby Vitus. Had no idea it was a Helles type. After having Hangar24's Helles for fathers day, I just didnt like the style. This was very good. Grassy, cracker and a bit of malt with a floral note.

Mouth- A fairly medium body with a good medium (light) carbonation. A good amount of bubbles and still crisp and clean.

Drink- Not a fan of the style per se, but this beer was might tasty. I could put back a few more.

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Photo of Oakenator
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

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3.5/5  rDev -9.3%

Photo of Chaney
4.4/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I grabbed one of these from the tasting room on the way out the door.

Served in a Mad Elf snifter.

A: Poured out a nearly crystal clear, soft orange color, with about a finger or so head that clung to the glass like Spider-Man.

S: Faint, but I guess that's not what this beer is about anyway. Nice sweet, sourdough quality that encased the malt for further use on the taste buds.

T: Liquid bread in a glass IMO. Not sure why lots don't dig this, but I loved it! Sweet, but only in an organic sort of way, with no saturation of any kind. This is very "beery," which I thought was a welcome change.

M: Liquidy, but please don't confuse that with "watery." This wasn't meant to be "snot-like"... it's supposed to be ALMOST a session beer. In that regard, I dug the sweetness, lacing, taste lingering, etc.

O: If a person just drank a couple Imperial Stouts right before this, they'll hate it. However, I kept going back for more and more. I REALLY liked it!

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Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.12/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a clear sunset orange with no cloudiness or lacing. A thin halo of white head reminds you that there was a fluffy white head at pouring, one which fell flat shortly after. The nose is pure grain and sweetness, something I wish I smelled in every lager. Strangely I get notes of a turkey dinner, fresh cornbread, and a light fruitiness. The taste is very similar, boasting a rich malt profile with suckling sweetness and a touch of bitterness to help bring balance. There is nothing fancy about the hop profile, just some alpha acids on the back end along with a lingering grain sweetness. The body is relatively light and the beer is quite drinkable. I'd love this beer on tap and would likely try it again.

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Photo of Bdel34
4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

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Scratch Beer 69 - 2012 (More Helles, Less Bock) from Tröegs Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.86 out of 5 with 49 ratings
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