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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) | Kiuchi Brewery

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kiuchi Brewery
Japan
kodawari.cc

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 3.90%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by purplehops on 07-01-2002

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Reviews:
221
Ratings:
378
pDev:
20.98%
Bros Score:
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Photo of Texasfan549
3.5/5  rDev +14.8%

Photo of jaydoc
2.75/5  rDev -9.8%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
1.82/5  rDev -40.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottled 5/2012. 4% ABV per the label.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson-brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Thin streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is sour with roasted malt, cocoa, and fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with sour roast, cocoa, char, metallic, and funk flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty horrible beer with sour and funky characteristics in both the smell and taste that basically make this one undrinkable.

Serving type: bottle.

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Photo of GRG1313
1.83/5  rDev -40%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Hitochino Nest - 21oz format

Pour a thin black/brown with a thin tan head.

Nose is light plum with hints of light black coffee. Pleasant plum character.

Mouthfeel is thin and watery with little character.

Flavors are watered plum sugared black tea with a hint of citrus. Flavor are weak and watered and with little character. This one has a "sour" character but it's not a bad bottle; it seems to be part of the "sweet/lacto" profile.

Finish is a watery plum soda character.

No need to try again. More soda pop character than beer. Little to define it as stout, other than perhaps the color which is giving it the benefit of the doubt.

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Photo of kjkinsey
3.5/5  rDev +14.8%

Photo of Knapp85
3.03/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This pours out as traditional black colored brew with a thin tan head on it that faded quickly. The smell was a little funky but had some decent smokey roasted aromas going on in there. The taste of this was sweet and roasted upfront that went into a subtle nuttiness in the end. The mouthfeel was ok, could have been creamier. This was an average stout at best.

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Photo of metter98
3.01/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: The beer is jet black in color and poured with a thin and dense tan head that quickly died down, leaving a bit of wispy lacing on the surface and a thin ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Light aromas of chocolate malts and lactose are present in the nose.
T: The taste has flavors of lactose along with notes of chocolate and dark roasted malts. It has a slight amount of sweetness.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a bit thin on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation. Some hints of smoothness are noticeable.
O: This beer was easy to drink but could use a fuller body and stronger flavors.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.75/5  rDev +23%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I love this brewery, taunting owl and all. I think it's because they make far better beer than anyone expects comming out of Japan. This Lacto-Sweet Stout is very good for it's style, but the style is a bit whacked. There are lots of sweet malts, roasted grain, creaminess and smoothness rising out of this beer. However, the lactose sugars are very strong, making the beer overly sweet and a little oily. I often get a grape Kool-Aid flavor from milk stouts when over done. The carbonation seems to make the beer prickly and too efforvescent on the toung, distracting from the creamy, smooth texture. But, an easy drinking stout regardless.

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2.94/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330ml stubby bottle, with the usual hypno-owl staring straight out from the label, right into my soul. Made with lactose, and coming in pretty low on the ol' booze-o-meter, eh?

This beer pours a solid black, with the barest of basal amber edges, and one zaftig finger of puffy, loosely foamy, and bubbly beige head, which leaves a low ring of Swiss cheese lace around the glass in its hasty departure.

It smells of faintly roasted caramel malt, prominent sour milk notes, and some bittersweet cocoa powder. The taste is medium chocolate, day-old coffee, bready caramel malt, a hint of gritty brown sugar, and a thankfully toned-down version of that spoiled milk essence.

The carbonation is quite tame in its meek as the day is long frothiness, the body on the light side of middleweight, and kind of thin, yet still coming up smooth and creamy - huh. It finishes off-dry, and rather plainly, with that tainted milk chocolate thing lingering on.

Overall, after first whiff, I was obviously expecting the worst. However, the sourness, presumably from the lactose, eventually settles the hell down, for the most part. What remains is indeed sweet and milky, but without a whole lot else in terms of actual flavour. Not exactly worth seeking out, I'm afraid.

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3.31/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle sampled at cellar temperature. It pours a dark mahogany with fizzy cola-like carbonation that very quickly disappears. Looks more like an aged Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

Smell is not worth mentioning, metallic and sort of off-putting. No roastiness, which comes as a surprise.

Taste is unusual, much more like a Belgian Dark with some dark fruit and vague nuttiness going on. Lactic quality suggests an Oud Bruin, but that link is far from solid. Very thin and bland after crossing the palate, however there's a nice roasty aftertaste that redeems it.

Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout has more in common with dark Belgians such as Vondel, Troubadour Obscura, and De Dolle Export Stout. However it's balance and drinkability fall below these examples. It's unique as others have said, but not especially palatable. Worth a try if you're comparing oddball Stouts.

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Photo of zeff80
3.06/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Poured out an opaque, jet black color with a small, off-white head of sudsy foam. It receded to leave soapy trails of lace.

S - It smelled somewhat of chocolate and floral hops. Both aromas were mild at best.

T - Taste was mostly milk chocolate with some grassy hops. Neither flavor was great or strong.

M - It was fairly crisp and smooth. A light bodied ale.

O - Looked pretty good but failed to deliver on anything else.

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Photo of LXIXME
3.43/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of zestar
2.75/5  rDev -9.8%

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.18/5  rDev +37%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours an almost completely opaque black with minimal hazy brown highlights at the rim. A short but creamy dark tan head soon drops to a collar. It does, howwever, last throughout the glass. The nose is somewhat limited but offers a thin roastiness and a mildly tart fruitiness. The body is light with a very fine and mild carbonation (from bottle conditioning) that's silky smooth and lightly creamy in the mouth. The flavor is quite intriguing, and not at all what's normally expected of a sweet stout. It starts lightly fruity - turning gently tart - and warms to reveal some dark toffee and baker's chocolate followed by the promised sweetness before finishing with a lightly dry and mildly roasty finish. It's quite unique, as are all of the Hitachino Nest beers, with an interesting twist on the style. Refreshing, fairly complex and interesting, and quite enjoyable. Certainly worth trying for those who seek unusual beers!

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Photo of chinchill
3.34/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330 ml stubby bottle served in a pint glass. Some dark sediment remaining in the bottom of the glass added mid-tasting.

Pours an opaque near-black with a creamy tan head. Head dies down soon but leaves a lasting ring and partial top coat.

The aroma is not as expected, being a bit weak, not particularly sweet, and with a quality suggestive of teriyaki sauce and certainly not that of a typical stout. Aroma suggests a higher ABV than 4%.

The taste too was different than expected, wither based on style or aroma. Most notably, although not bitter this "Sweet Stout" is not sweet. In fact, it has a nice hop balance that is unusual for style and suggestive of a West Coast stout. Some chocolate initially followed by some coffee and teriyaki sauce in the finish. Rating leans towards 3.5.

The mouthfeel is a little bit thin and astringent for style (detriments), as well as crisper and more lively (not a detriment IMO). Semi-dry finish.

O - an enjoyable and modestly distinctive stout that is neither heavy nor sweet.

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Photo of dbrauneis
3.22/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Pours an opaque yet still clear jet black in color with moderate amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the edges of the glass and hints of dark cola brown highlights. The beer has a three finger tall dense foamy dark mocha head that reduces to a large patch of very thin film and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Light to moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate aromas of roasted malts, lactose sweetness, and chocolate.

T: Upfront there is a light to moderate flavor of roasted malts with a moderate amount of lactose sweetness. That is followed by lighter flavors of dark + milk chocolate. Light to moderate amounts of roasty bitterness lingers through the finish.

M: Medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Relatively smooth but slightly thin.

O: Easy to drink and enjoyable though a touch thin in mouthfeel. Nice lactose flavors without too much associated sweetness.

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Photo of nickfl
3.5/5  rDev +14.8%

Photo of ygtbsm94
3/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of atrocity
2.75/5  rDev -9.8%

Photo of smcolw
2.6/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Very light head for a stout without any lace whatsoever. Accurate in the color (black with a beige head).

Am I imagining this? I smell soy sauce behind the traditional stout aromas (ie. salty and fishy). OK, I've smelled it five times at this point and I'm still detecting this, so I don't think I'm crazy.

The flavor is an improvement--the saltiness is present, but muted. Not much in terms of roasted flavors. The body is very thin for the style. This is like a beginner's stout for those who are not ready for the big boys from Ireland.

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Photo of XmnwildX12
2.5/5  rDev -18%

Photo of russpowell
3.95/5  rDev +29.5%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked this bottle up at Goebbels in Wichita, 1st from this brewery, review based on notes

Pours chestnut with 3+ fingers of mocha head. No head retention or lacing

S: Chocolate, some coffee & roasty malt

T: Lactic acid notes, coffee, & iron up front. Roasted malt, more coffee & a hint of molasses as this warms. Finishes dry, roasty & with lactose; almost pulled a 4.5

MF: Medium bodied with low carbonation

Drinks good, a nice sweet stout, a bit pricey, paid about $5.50 for 12 ounces

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
1.88/5  rDev -38.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Pours a black, cola-like body with a bubbly, quickly dissipating tan head.

Smell: Weak aroma of watered down old milk. This does not bode well at all.

Taste: A very odd junction of random flavors here. Sour apples, lime juice, and a near virulent metallic taste, with a lactic acid finish suggestive of a lambic, or even spoiled Worchestershire sauce. No real malts or hops to speak of.

Mouthfeel: Extremely thin-bodied. Neither full or creamy and totally lacking in body. How very upsetting.

Drinkability: This one was a complete bust, unfortunately. There are far better examples of this style, and I'd wager most could be had for far cheaper than this one. If you must insist on trying this one get the smaller size.

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Photo of woodychandler
2.37/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

It poured with a finger of deep-tan head with good retention. Nose was dank with notes of molasses, prunes, and dark chocolate. Color was a deep, dark brown with only cola highlights at the edges. Mouthfeel was medium with a slightly sour dark chocolate flavor. Finish was slightly bitter, like bittersweet chocolate and coffee. For a milk/sweet stout, this was pretty sour. Oof.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
2.87/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Barely opaque (only because it's an overcast day) dark walnut with magnanimous red-amber highlights. The wheat toast brown head looks good right after the pour, but can't maintain its size or structure for long. I'm left looking at one finger of nearly featureless foam that has left the glass untouched in its hurry to depart.

Sweet Stout smells like a sweet stout, although not an especially good one. There's a modest degree of roastedness with some milk chocolate, but little else to keep my nose interested. A 'chocolate milk' sweetness is evident as well, thanks to the adjunct (lactose) that was used. No badness, just not much goodness.

The flavor is, in a word, odd. The beer is sweet, although not cloyingly so, with one of the leanest stout bodies that I've ever experienced. It's obvious that the sweetness comes from an outsider and not from the roasting of the grain. It's too artificial-tasting and seems a thing apart, completely separate from the rest of the flavor profile. There's also a sourness/acidity that is at least as prominent, if not more so, and is as annoying as the lactose.

I can also appreciate a very mild hop presence (Kent Goldings as it turns out) that I'm unable to enjoy because I find it impossible to filter out the rest of the flavor contributors. The unquestionably light mouthfeel, especially for a stout, makes a bid for medium thanks to the addition of the milk sugar.

Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) is a peculiar beer to be sure. That peculiarity, rather than making it good or interesting, makes it not so good and not that interesting. The major culprit, I believe, is the addition of the lactose. It has more than enough other faults, but losing that artificial sweetness would at least clear the decks so that the malt, hops and yeast could be appreciated on their own merits.

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
Beer rating: 3.05 out of 5 with 378 ratings
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