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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) | Kiuchi Brewery

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Kiuchi Brewery
Japan
kodawari.cc

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 3.90%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by purplehops on 07-01-2002

BEER STATS
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220
Ratings:
371
Avg:
3.05
pDev:
26.89%
 
 
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Photo of cbl2
2.92/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance:

Almost black with a hint of ruby. A faint tannish head that settles rapidly.

Smell:

Marshmallow/cotton candy and coffee. Smells delicious.

Taste/Mouthfeel:

Not as good as it smells. An off taste at first, almost sour followed by a mellow sweetness that has coffee and sugar aspects to it. Good but for the offputting start which lowers the over all appeal of this one.

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Photo of oggg
3.65/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Hard pour gave 4 fingerbreaths of tan big-bubbled head in an imperial pint glass. The head slowly collapsed into a thick tasty cake, leaving a nice lace. Black color with ruby tints at the edges.

Aroma is of roasted grains, coffee, chocolate and a fruity possibly apricot aroma.

The head tastes of roasted grains withy a faint burnt component, as well as some spiciness. The beer itself starts with sweet malt, with low (perfectly so) carbonation. Surprisingly little in the way of roasted or burnt flavor, given the nice aroma. The flavor lasts only about 4 seconds. Especially with its sour note, this is somewhat reminiscent of Guinness. Much sweeter though. There isn't really much astringency to offset the sweetness, so the finish is a bit cloying. I start to exhale some roasted grain breaths, which are pretty cool.

This is medium bodied, maybe on the lighter side. The finish as above is a bit syrupy, although that gets better as you sip more beer and get more roast/burnt flavor to come in. Alcohol is subtle.

This beer goes down easy, and the more you drink, the better it gets. It's still too sweet, though, and that limits how often you'll want it.

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Photo of budgood1
3.3/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

pours a deep brown colour with a few ruby highlights, with a slight tan head and a a bit of lacing. the aroma is a sharp acidic sweetness, a bit solvent. hinting of sourness, coffe notes, caramel and bittersweet chocolate waft through the divide. the flavour seems a bit sour and off at first. although part of the flavour profile, the sourness takes some getting used to. lots of dark roasted malt and other sweet stout delights abound. the mouthfeel seems a bit thin for a stout, but maybe i'm distracted by all the unfamiliar flavours this lacto stout is unveiling. as for drinkability...i'm not sure i would want more than one of these per session. it's rather unique.

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Photo of ark57
3.75/5  rDev +23%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

It pours a nice dark black with a thin head. The aroma is mostly roasted coffe, but sort of one dimentional. The taste is sweet and creamy also like a cappuccino. There is a weird sourness in the finish. This is a unique beer to say the least. The coffee and sweet cream tastes highlighted with a slight sourness is worth another try.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.83/5  rDev +25.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Big 24.3 oz bottle, not tops in volume, but it just feels big in the hand.
I've only had their wheats before, so I anticipate this one eagerly...
fully opaque appearance, dark brown color, with light creeping in the edges, revealing reddish tinges,and blessed with a huge, zesty, light tan head, bubbling and popping as it chaotically collapses down to size...bet it crackle, too...oh, it's a buzzing, aural cacophony, when it set it up to your ear.
Aroma: definite shades of coca-cola, but after that creamy, cocoa, some bitter espresso notes, as well, bitter-sweet, I should say, for it's an even-tempered smell. I can detect a bit pitch and tar, a hint of mollasses and spice, but that may be a stretch.
Taste: has a heft, but feels mellow in the mouth, very cool, and not too sweet at all. Ah, but that changes further in, and the bright, fruity character that comes close to cola emerges more full on the palate. The "lacto" is detected a bit, as well, and only adds to the smoothness of the brew. Body is medium, finish is soft, and pleasant, a nice, sweet treat.
Though not my favorite style of stout by any means, this is not such a bad bottle of beer. Goes done well, and could possibly make a case for itself as a "session stout", if it weren't for the price. ($8.19's what I paid)
Still, I'm interested to see what they would do with an Imperial Stout, even an Oatmeal.

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Photo of ybnorml
3.68/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Te head on this stout more of a crbonation head than a thick foamy head found on some stouts. It was a dark black color with just the slightest hint of mahogony when held up to the light. The aroma is at first a roasted malt followed by a sweet malty smell. This is a very easy going stout . In that the flavors have smoothed edges as opposed to being aggressive in nature. The roasted malt flavor comes in first and finishes with a soomth but light sweetness as in the aroma. With the low alc.% and easy flavor I think I could put away several of these at one night at the pub.

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Photo of BeefyMee
3.38/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This is the first Hitachino beer I have tried and also the one that I wanted to try the most. I was expecting something a little different, but I still enjoyed the beer. It only seemed stout-like in appearance. The taste had a wheaty aspect, maybe like Franziskaner, and was also reminiscent of certain Belgian Pales, such as Leffe Blonde. This took some getting used to but I began to come around to it.

Very interesting. Try it just to see what you think. I don't believe I'll be getting this again, though I wouldn't mind it.

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Photo of merlin48
2.86/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz bottle with a cute owl on the cap, as well as the label. Pours into a pint tumbler like a light bodied porter, but is very opaque black chestnut in the glass. Not much of a head, but it leaves some cocoa ring lace and a similar oil slick on top.
Aroma is Japanese? Sour cream is not what I was expecting from anybody's stout, but it's here and combines with coca cola, coffee, and bittersweet chocolate flavors to provide a drinkable and challenging experience. It's light bodied for a stout, and has respectable components of dark roasted malts and chocolate notes to overpower the scalded milk notes. A very interesting brew, indeed. If you enjoy chocolate on your cottage cheese, you will definitely like this stout. I'm awarding it a 5.0 for Peculiarity. Not for the squeamish.

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Photo of steorn
3.66/5  rDev +20%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours very dark with a noisy tan head.The head dissapates rather quickly to leave just a thin coating.
Smells sweet and malty with some of the roasted notes expected from a stout. On first taste I get some sweetness and alcohol, then a short burst of roasted malt. It finishes rather quickly.The mouthfeel is somewhat thin yet coating.There is a little more depth as it warms,but there doesnt seem to be much to this.Its not a bad stout but certainly not anything to shout about.

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Photo of genaro
2.82/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A review of a beer containing lactose milk sugar by a lactose intolerant person may be prejudicial but here it is anyway. This beer has an opaque dark brown color and no head. The aroma was pretty much that of caramel. It has a smooth taste of sweet milky caramel with undertones of toasted malt. There are hints of chocolate as well. The hops were pretty laid back with only a little bit of bite. The mouthfeel was a little doughy with not much carbonation. I really did not care for the lactose milk sugar after taste. However, most people might find this a good dessert beer.

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Photo of DESTRO
1.79/5  rDev -41.3%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

ok first off this is the 24oz bottles and i was totally hyped on the bottle, it looks cool as hell. it pours dark brown, not black and with really no head to speak of. the smell is somewhat modest and contains cocoa, malt and has an odd spoiled milk smell. taste wise? ugh. talk about a let down. it honestly tastes like crap. sure theres malty chocolate notes but theyre smashed by the odd taste of rotten milk. it grossed me the f**k out. i mean im always one to finish a beer no matter how bad, but 3/4 of the way through this, down the drain it went. it was crisp but thin and not what youd expect from a stout. total bummer and expensive. not gona hit this one up again, ever.

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Photo of DagFishHead
1.54/5  rDev -49.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

This review is from my notes of a previous tasting. I'm entering it because I've entered a number of very favorble reviews, and believe it's important to also include reviews of brews that "aren't so hot."
This beer has a reasonably nice appearance. Deep brown, though too light for a stout. Weak head vanished immediately, with no lace to speak of.
Aroma is acidic and overwhelmed by an extremely earthy, mineral and "spoiled milk" nose.
Taste: compared to a Mackeson's, Sam Adams CS or St. Peter's CS, the lacto factor is way, WAY out of balance for me. Extremely earthy (dirt), and an almost stinging acidity. I've traveled quite extensively in the far east, and so I tried very hard to be sensitive to cultural differences in "taste" in this review, but it's hard for me to believe this is something the masses anywhere are clamoring for.
Mouthfeel is way too thin and watery for a stout.
Drinkability: I'm sorry to say I finally poured this beer out (I do that maybe once a year, tops). I gave this tasting numerous chances, letting it warm up, etc... but for my taste, this brew is nearly offensive.

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Photo of RockyTopHeel
4.02/5  rDev +31.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thin, dense, espresso crema-colored head. Sweet Stout is very, very dark brown in color and smells a bit like Kahlua, with chocolate and cafe latte notes. The taste is creamy, with strong coffee and cream flavor and a touch of dry cocoa. The influence of the lactose is easy to detect, as it makes this brew creamy, sweet, and a touch sour in the finish. Nice, full mouthfeel. This beer isn't at all oppressive, especially for a stout, and is surprisingly easy to drink. Overall, it reminds me very much of a slightly smoky Kahlua flavor. I'll have this one again.

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Photo of chaduvel
3.4/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Had this at the New Bukowski's in Inman Sq. Served in the ceramic Hitachino Nest glass so I couldn't get a good look at the color. Head is the color of a chocolate milk shake. Smell is distinctly of caramels. Really smells of caramels as the beer warmed up. Taste: creamy and milky similar to 1% milk consistency, can taste the lactose and the sweet caramel and malt flavors, finishes by coating the back of my throat like a glass of milk would. Interesting offering, worth trying but not drinking on a regular basis.

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Photo of mickeymac
2.98/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Although it's quite dark, it has a hint shows a hint of mahogany when held up to the light. The heady was bubbly but disappeared almost immediately without a trace of lace on the glass. The smell is light, with just detectable notes of chocolate and roasted malt. The flavor is also a bit underwhelming. Nothing about it is particularly offensive; it just doesn't stand out in any way. It's undoubtedly watery for a stout. Although it's only 3.9%, it doesn't lend itself to session drinking. I'll pass on this one.

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Photo of UncleJimbo
3.91/5  rDev +28.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled on tap at Popeye in Tokyo, Japan.

This stout poured black as soy sauce with a creamy, tan head (typical nitrogen foam). The smell was sweet and malty but modest. The taste was sweet but also somewhat tangy (almost a hint of tartness). Tastes of malt and cocoa were evident. The mouthfeel was smooth, creamy, and clean. The body was medium, and the carbonation feel was low. There was an initial tartness on the tongue which gave way to the sweetness. This was a good stout on tap. I liked this sample better than the bottle I had sampled in the US.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
2.13/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a deep ruby brown almost opaque, with a moccha highly carbonated fizzy two fingered head, and from my pour is leaving no lace at all. The aroma is a sharp slightly acidic sweetness, this is my first time grappling with a milk or cream stout so here it goes. Underneath of the harsh sourness are light coffe tones and dark chocolate from the dark roasted barley malt. The flavor at first seems a bit offensive from the rush of acidity, but I think it's growing on me after my fourth sip a little. The light flavors in the background from the dark roasted malts are definitely overshadowed from the sourness in the flavor creating an unbalance that doesn't form a happy experience with me. Nice to try a stout from a Japan micro, but I will try the Hitachino Nest wit and wheat before I count them off as bad brewers. The overall mouthfeel is a bit thin for this lucious style of a stout, and I just can't get down with this beer on any level. Drinkability is low due to the fact that the sourness overbears the rest of the characteristics of the beer therefore ruining the pleasures this beer has to offer.

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Photo of aaronh
2.38/5  rDev -22%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Pours a dark mahogany color, topped by a rather thin, tan head. The aroma is faily modest, sweet with notes roasted malt. The taste is odd, initially presenting a slightly sweet roasted taste, immediately followed by a tinge of sourness. The dry roasted flavor comes back for the finish, and last into the aftertaste, but it is rejoined by the slight sourness. The mouthfeel is rather light, not having much more body than a typical lager. Drinkability is not great, because it's just not that enjoyable. I guess they all can't be good beers, right?

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Photo of BigHead
2.81/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I found this odd since a lot of my Asian friends are lactose intolerant, which (and I may be misinformed) is common among Asian folk. But anyway, on to the beer. It's a nice looking stout, with carbonation galore and a nice head. Boy, I think I smelled a sweet cider smell initially, but then I could detect a slight roasted malt, chocolate aroma come through. Bubbles dance on the dance which is washed away with a milky consistency. A sweet, milk chocolate flavor and kinda ends with a tinge of sourness. Each sip finishes with a milky feeling. This was a hard beer to finish the entire bottle.

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Photo of BeerResearcher
1.93/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Remember when the Japanese could mimic any current or new technology and then figure out a way to make it cheaper and better? Well, it didn't happen here. What the hell were they thinking? Milk sugar in a beer? Was this an attempt to bring back distant memories, or should I say “mammaries”, of our early childhood? This tar colored concoction is really weird! A sour off kilter chocolate taste stands out followed by a hint of camphor and pasty malt. There are hops somewhere but if I'm not mistaken, tastes like old apple juice. The smell is strange as well - a cross between chocolate and sour balls candy. The head disappeared too quickly for me ponder their existence, but I was distracted trying to contemplate what the heck I was drinking.

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Photo of marburg
3.48/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Holy crap, batman -- it's chocolate milk with booze in it!

You can tell as you pour it that it's pretty light-bodied. Not a lot of head. That which does form is reasonably light, something of a classroom-walls putty color.

I did a double take when I tasted it. It doesn't FEEL like a stout at all, but it looks like one. So it's something of a neat trick. The word "lacto" on the bottle implies that they're going for milky feel and taste, and that's what they get. So kudos to them on that alone. Not entirely what I'd hoped for though since I generally think of stouts as a bit more robust and, well, ballsy. Easy to drink because it's so thin. Not a terrible beer, and it is certainly unique, but I wouldn't drink it a lot.

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Photo of aracauna
2.41/5  rDev -21%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Dark but not completely opaque. Nice chunky tan head starts off nicely but fades fairly quickly for a stout. Not very big nose, but some cream. The flavor is some roastiness and chocolate but it's dominated by the sourness. It's also fairly sweet. The flavor is way too thin for a good stout. In fact, more malt would probably balance out the sourness, after all Bell's can make great stouts despite the sourness. The body is also on the thin side.

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Photo of francisweizen
2.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Notes: apparantly this beer is available in a 720ml bottle as well as the standard 11.something oz one!

IMO this is Kiuchi Brewery's worst beer. This beer pours out a dark black colour with a chocolaty tan head. This smelled very milky and sweet(almost like chalk)and the taste was pretty similar. Very roasted and malty like a stout should be, but the Lacto just does not do it for me! This had a decent mouthfeel and it was drinkable, but overall this is a thin and sub-par offering from the normally amazinbg brewery from Japan...
cheers!
F

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.18/5  rDev +37%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours an almost completely opaque black with minimal hazy brown highlights at the rim. A short but creamy dark tan head soon drops to a collar. It does, howwever, last throughout the glass. The nose is somewhat limited but offers a thin roastiness and a mildly tart fruitiness. The body is light with a very fine and mild carbonation (from bottle conditioning) that's silky smooth and lightly creamy in the mouth. The flavor is quite intriguing, and not at all what's normally expected of a sweet stout. It starts lightly fruity - turning gently tart - and warms to reveal some dark toffee and baker's chocolate followed by the promised sweetness before finishing with a lightly dry and mildly roasty finish. It's quite unique, as are all of the Hitachino Nest beers, with an interesting twist on the style. Refreshing, fairly complex and interesting, and quite enjoyable. Certainly worth trying for those who seek unusual beers!

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Photo of Naerhu
3.05/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

This maybe the best Japanese stout I have come across. Although, it is a bit watery, it has a lovely dark chocolate aroma. It has a high acidity which I believe makes it refreshing, which is not a characteristic found in stouts. It is definitely brewed with the Japanese consumer in mind as I have not had beers from other countries with such high acidity. Other reviewers stated they noted sour taste. Acidity is often mistaken for sour taste (in drinks such as wine and sake) especially by drinkers who are sensitive to acidity. I challenge you who think this is a sour brew to reconsider you position. Cheers!

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Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (Lacto) from Kiuchi Brewery
3.05 out of 5 based on 371 ratings.
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