Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus | Erdinger Weissbräu

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Erdinger Weissbier PikantusErdinger Weissbier Pikantus

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Erdinger Weissbräu

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.30%

Availability: Year-round

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Photo of doktorhops
3.52/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Having had this before I know that I am in for a treat. As I recall Erdinger Pikantus was similar to the much vaunted (and freaking awesome!) Weihenstephaner Korbinian, so it will be a battle Royale, Doppelbock versus Doppelbock! Also I promise I will leave my overwhelming bias for Weihenstephaner, greatest and oldest brewer of Weizens at the door on my coat rack (yes personal bias hangs from a coat rack not unlike a coat) and give everyone a totally honest review of this brew.

Poured from a 500ml bottle into a Chimay chalice gangsta-style.

A: A deep murky brown body with a head that started out camel-hair coloured and dissipated to a thin ring of lace. So less impressive than Korbinian then.

S: Dark plum and spicy phenolics in the nose give way to a hint of yeast and rye bread body, nothing as pungent as recalled from the Korbinian, it's not at all bad though.

T: Lighter it seems all round then, the flavour is dark fruits (primarily plum) with yeast and rye bread, some caramelised sugar, a note of pepper and a slight medicinal bitter herb finish. Notes of banana and clove also make an appearance as the glass drains itself magically [i.e. by me drinking it].

M: Carbonation was a big let-down - there is far too much, not only for the style but in general, and the body was mid to light with some slight wateriness. As a result much belching was to be had from a single bottle of this, which isn't the way it should be.

D: I hate to sound like a fanboy of anything but I'm really appreciating Weihenstephaner more and more with each passing beer I have tried from other German brewers, and Pikantus is no exception. That being said - I still rate Weizens/Bocks/Marzens/Doppels much higher than other styles and my score does reflect this, plus apart from the hideously overdone carbonation this beer does taste alright.

Food match: I'm going to be controversial and not suggest a German dish for this one but instead suggest: Beef Wellington with a side of roasted vegetables and rich gravy.

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Photo of KFBR392
3.34/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Best Before 3/2014

Appearance: Huge head on the pour which settled in at about a finger and a half. Dark color with some brown/amber tones where light is about to get through. Above average active carbonation in glass while drinking.

Smell: Big malt body jumps out right away. Sweet molasses and medium bodied fruits provide a strong body. Interesting background of oak and leafy greens which adds a well receipted layer of complexity.

Taste: Front of medium bodied dark fruits and brown sugar. That front sort of lingers into the body with some added malt tones but really falls off quickly. Back end is some semi sweet malt sugariness.

Mouthfeel: Carbonation is very light, lots of bright fruit and sweet tones hit the palate throughout.

Overall: Being that this bottle was quickly coming to being past date, the brew inside has probably fallen off significantly already. Aroma was approachable but taste certainly did not back up that nice front. Would certainly be open to revisiting with a fresher bottle.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
3.67/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Best before date of 10-2014

Appearance - Pours a murky, muddy and rusty colored brown with a 2 finger light tan head. Dissipates rather quickly, leaving a virtually flat, barren surface in it's wake. Needless to say, no lacing. Certainly not the most impressive looking of beers.

Smell - Subtly sweet and malty. Light notes of caramel and banana. Sugar.

Taste - Moderate flavors that come across as sweet and fruity; think banana topped with a few raisins and sprinkled with several pinches of sugar. Not too complex; pretty much starts and finishes the same.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with some creamy quality. Prickly carbonation at first quickly levels out to deliver a moderate, creamy drink.

Overall - Not quite on the level of Ayinger or Weihenstephaner's weizenbock, but it's not far off. Quite drinkable, though the flavor leaves a smidgen of complexity to be desired. To summarize, it's a good beer, but I'd rather pay that extra 50 cents to get that Ayinger or Weihenstephaner weizenbock, and before that I'd likely grab the 'dunkel' or 'hefe' weizens before I settled with the weizenbocks... but that's just me.

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Photo of Tomais
3.84/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Big frothy head, settles quickly and fades. No lacing.
A seriously murky dark brown beer -- chestnut brown against the light.
Smells like a wheatbeer yet very different; including strong cloves but with a mild fruity sweetness.

Mouthfeel is lovely, thick and velvety -- with lots of fine grained carbonation typical of bottle-conditioned (I presume this is).

Taste is sweet high, and beery low in the mouth. Dryness balancing back of the hatch. Taste of cloves for a while there too.
This is a good beer - had a bottle last night and one again tonight. I prefered tonight's, which was closer to fridge temperature. Yesterday's was cellar temp -- I found the sweetness there too strong - not overpowering though in fairness. (Of course the problem there could be me -- I drink pils 99% of the time...)

I found it a difficult one to grade. As often with wheat beer, if it tasted as good as it smells (especially when it's a little down the glass) I'd be in heaven. It does taste good to me -- nicely balanced, but I dont get the complexity that some others talk about -- but then a beer doesnt have to be super complex to be good. It's on offer in my local supermarket -- I'll have to get some more of it, to help me come to a more informed conclusion like ;-)

Edit// you can pour it fairly agressively, the head holds longer and the carbonation is not so prickly at the start. It's a very satisfying beer. Add banana to the taste - but *dried* banana. I reduced the mark a little. That's it.

500ml brown bottle. Ten months before BBD.

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Photo of deltatauhobbit
3.76/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Best before March 2014.

Pours a light brown color with some rusty hues, good sized head which fizzles and fades quickly, no lacing on the glass.

Smell is a mix of sweet malt and banana, bit of a breadiness to it.

Taste is on the sweet malt side, touch of fruitiness, picking up the banana and clove aspect, carbonation is a bit high though and kind of distracts at first, slight toffee finish, not much of a hop presence.

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Photo of Chessmaster
4.34/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: beautiful, dark brown, clear, with frothy head that dissipates to a nice cap. Nice lacing.

S: malty, mixed wih fruit

T: clean malt, toasty, dark fruit

M: pleasant, full

O: a very enjoyable, lighter version of a bock, with fruity notes?

Would definitely buy again

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Photo of fallenshadow
4.33/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Dark dunkel like colour with a slight bit of lacing on top. Bubbles streaming up to reach the surface.

S - Sweet and fruity.

T - Earthy, mellow fruit notes and sweetness. No bitter or unwanted flavours in the mix.

M - Watery and slightly bubbly. Smooth.

O - I was very surprised at this beer. I expected a typical Dunkel which is not my favourite style of beer but I was pleasantly surprised at how smooth and tasty this beer is. One to have again for sure!

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Photo of Sludgeman
4.2/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

$3.79/22 oz. Best before 4/2014. Poured into an imperial pilsner glass.

Liquid raisin bread! Alcohol, as opposed to hops, helps to balance against the maltiness/yeastiness. 4

A – Pours a clear brown but otherwise opaque in the glass with a four-finger rocky tan head. A lasting head. Some alcohol legs. No lacing.4

S – Wheaty, brown bread, slightly fruity, some raisins and vanilla, slight cloviness. 4.5

T – Malty, low hops/bitterness, yeasty, some alcohol/more so in the finish. 4.25

MF – Medium-bodied. Medium-dry. 3.75

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.01/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

500 ml bottle poured into a weizen glass.
7.3% ABV

A - Dark and tawny brown clarity shows through the thinner parts of the glass while the more volumetric top looks almost black. Pikantus' tall and tight light khaki head lingers for some time, fed by carbonation but leaves not a trace of foam on the glass.

S - A light dusting of dirt and cocoa blankets the beer's mellow yeast aroma consisting of over-ripe banana and light clove spice notes. Dark maltiness lends dried out raisins and black cherry pit to the mix, finishing with a kiss of toffee and faint wisp of smoke.

T - Soft wheat and bready malt richness fills the beer with smoothness and dark complexity that mirrors the aroma; raisin and faint black cherry pit underscore thinly sliced, chocolate-covered banana.

M - Tiny carbonation bubbles dance across the tongue effervescently but don't tickle the throat as they're knocked down by incredibly smooth wheat and a medium-full bodied maltiness that finishes with just a pinch of sweetness.

O - Erdinger Pikantus has a great doppelbock malt profile that, from the beginning to end, carries through the beer nicely, balancing dark fruit notes with soft sweetness but, what the beer is missing is a fuller yeast profile. The "weizen" part of the beer is good but too nuanced that it becomes overshadowed. A delectable beer regardless.

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Photo of DenisKolkin
4.01/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split a bottle at Chester's in Hamilton. Thus served at appropriate temperature into a half sized pint glass.

Appearance - Dark brown, nearly black, nice half finger of head that lingered for a while. Soapy finish on top and sparse lacing in the glass. Still looks like a pretty serious beer.

Smell - Dark fruits, honey and tons of caramel and butterscotch that become even more pronounced as the beer warms. While there isn't a ton going on here the nose is so big and sweet on this it gets extra points for strength of the aroma.

Taste - Caramel, dark fruits, butterscotch. Also a bit of pralines and cream ice cream, with that soft interplay between nuts and butterscotch. Slightest smoke and bitterness on back end. While it is delicious this is truly a dessert beer something you could pour over ice cream, because whereas the competition (Aventinus and Vitus namely) do have the sweet malty elements in those beers there is more balance in those beers than there is here. So while the sweetness is delicious, I find it to be a bit of overkill.

Mouthfeel - Nice warming in back of throat, low carbonation. Coats the tongue nicely but is not syrupy. Great dessert feel to this beer.

Overall - Pretty damn good especially as a dessert beer, as the flavor could be a bit cloying for some. While I would never turn one down, I feel like this beer has its time and place and is more of a specific purpose beer than the competition which I find is more drinkable at any occasion.

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Photo of ElCommodoro
3.23/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This is a pretty average weizenbock. Not my favourite. The smell is nothing short of amazing, but the taste is a little disappointing. It's pretty meh. Not a whole lot going on. It's on the thin side and has a nice robust malty palette, but doesn't have any oomph. It's sort of bland. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it might benefit from some hops. If it had some dark fruit flavour to it, that'd be a different story. Some estery alcohol bite would be nice too. it's just not there, though. There's really not much going on. I would never buy this again.

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Photo of scotorum
4.02/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Acquired in a five beer gift pack with an Erdinger weissbier vase.

Poured from the 16.9 oz. bottle into an Innis & Gunn flute.

a: Translucent dark brown with a tall white head which dissipated slowly to a surface foam and light lacing.

s: Dark malt and fruit.

t: Nicely balanced Bock flavor, dark malt with some tinges of plum. Easy drinking with a clean finish, the higher ABV not obvious.

m: Medium with great body.

o: A very good Bock, what I used to think of as the perfect Octoberfest beer before Marzens became more common. My part-German dinner guest enjoyed it too.

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Photo of FLima
3.82/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown color with a thick head with good retention.
Aroma of wheat, chocolate, yeast and toasted malts.
Nice spicy and malty flavor with notes of roasted malts, lots of nuts, cloves and grassy hops. Dry aftertaste, mildly acid.
Light to medium body with good carbonation and tiny bubbles. 7.3% ABV is well hidden
It is been a few years since last time had it, and I recall to like it a lot, but after tasting so many other experiences I thought it might be boring now. But it is still a great, well balanced and pleasant brew. This is much easier to drink than Vitus and Aventinus, so a good start point or a more relax and still flavorful Weizenbock.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.65/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Erdinger: Pikantus

Pours a sexy dark brown with a densely bubbled off white head. Aroma of tea like hops, sarsaparilla, even faint cocoa. In the taste, roasted malt, spicy hop, mineral. The hard water of the Erdinger brewery is noticeable. Faint suggestions of chocolates. Light hop character that is balancing and earthy with a small spice. Medium bodied and quite full at that. This is a fine German Wheat bock. Authentic German beer.

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Photo of IchLiebeBier
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Dark chestnut; cloudy; big head, long-lasting

Aroma: Malty, peppery, cloves; good Bavarian Wheat aroma

Taste: Malty, creamy, strong hint of alcohol, sweet finish

Remarks: Did not score A, T, S, M at that time; so please disregard those scores

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.94/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a big tan head on a cloudy brown body.
The aroma was all barnyard and hay. Wonderful.
The taste was semi-sweet malt but mellowed nicely by a mild bitterness.
The texture was fairly crisp but with a good softness to it with low carbonation.
Overall, a wonderful beer.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.38/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Best before 3/2014.

Pours a murky dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, wheat, and slight caramel and toast aromas. Taste is much the same with grain and slight caramel flavors on the finish. There is a very mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and somewhat medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is an above average beer that is drinkable but the flavors are somewhat bland in my opinion.

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Photo of rickyleepotts
3.02/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

I am not sure I have had a beer like this before. I mean, I have had a weizenbock before, but I don't remember what it tasted like. I know I have not had the Pikantus before. I actually recently finished a few bottles from Erdinger. When Total Wine dropped the price on their Oktoberfest, I grabbed a case. They make one of the best most flavorful Oktoberfests on the market. Hopefully that carries over to their weizenbock. Not sure what to expect here, as this is not a typical style for me. Should be fun!

In the Glass: It was easy to pour, and had a nice soda head on it. Not much lace to speak of, and I can imagine this beer is easy to drink. I have a feeling this will be a thin mouthfeel, too. Now that I think of it, I should have poured this in a boot. You know, DAS BOOT!

Nose: My first impressions are nice. It is malty and has a somewhat sweet aroma to it. I am getting almost plum notes on the nose, and while I am sure this will be a carbonated beer, almost want this to be on nitro and to be thin and room temperature before I drink it. The price is good, though. For a beer this high in alcohol, you should expect to spend $5.99 or more. As I smell this, I am just getting malty goodness. Let's see what it tastes like!

Flavor: I was right. It is very easy to drink. It's thin, and has a lot of carbonation on the outer layers. However, it is VERY easy to drink, and as it heats up, I can see this becoming almost chuggable. The beer is quite balanced, and you would never know it was 7.3 ABV. Those same sweet/plum notes I was getting on the nose carry over, but the malts are what I am tasting here. WhenI close my eyes, I can see them brewing this in Germany just drinking as they work. I mean, that is what makes a good brewmaster, right?

Mouthfeel: The front half of my palate is bored, but the back half is excited. The bubbles, when they hit the back of my tongue explode with flavor and as I swallow, the finish is smooth, crisp, and clean. This is not a speciality beer by any means, but a good example of a daily drinking Germany bock.

Aftertaste: There isn't much of an aftertaste. Oh, and the burp is pretty gross. If you can tolerate the bubbles, swish this around in your mouth a little bit. You will then open up some more flavor and it will provide you with an almost dry hoppy finish. The sweetness, when you swish it around a little, pretty much disappears. The more I drink this, the more the finish is starting to become bready; almost biscuitlike.

This isn't my favorite style, but it's good. I would totally order a pitcher of this if I was in Germany. Not sure when I will be in Germany, but maybe I will find an excuse to visit the brewery. I guarantee it tastes better there! Bottoms up, people.

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Photo of biegaman
3.88/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Erdinger Pikantus has an appearance difficult to describe; it is dark but clear and isn't any one colour in particular, but various degrees of amber and brown. Its most obvious feature is a thick and enormous head that health nuts could mistake for a mound of Greek yogurt; it doesn't leave much lacing but lasts longer than the beer itself!

The bouquet is certain to raise an eyebrow (or two). Equally distinctive as it is enticing, this mysterious blend of sweetness and spice, strength and sensuality, reveals notes of vanilla, bubblegum, raisin tart, toasted rye bread, molasses, and mulled apple cider. More than anything, however, it smells incredibly and identically like banana bread.

On the palate are equally definite flavours of banana bread and butter tarts, along with flashes of clove spice and general fruitiness. The taste has a strong cola-sweetness and undertones of molasses, milk chocolate and plum. Its 'cola and bubblegum' profile is far less intense than other examples of the style; it's very easy to let slide that this beer is actually over 7% alcohol.

Often a beer can conjure up a season - Erdinger Pikantus conjures all four! The rotting orchard fruits of fall, the warming spices of dark winter, the budding florals of spring, and the tangy orange peel notes and crisp refreshment of weissbier in summer. While all elements are accounted for, they all seem to be slightly abbreviated; the finish is disappointingly vacuous.

On par with other offerings from Erdinger, Pikantus is a very agreeable, if diminished example of a weizenbock style that can often be devastatingly intense and spicy. If you're an initiate to the style, there may be no better place to start. But for those already accustomed to the likes of Aventinus, Vitus and Ayinger, this will practically be candy.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
4.29/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottle: Poured a clear dirty brown color weizen with large off-white foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma consists of banana bread with some cloves notes and some bready notes. Taste is also dominated by some really good banana bread notes with just the right amount of residual sugar and some light cloves and bready notes. Body is full with a fluffy creamy texture and some good carbonation. Solid rendition of the style with loads of interesting esters and a solid wheat malt backbone.

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Photo of mintjellie
3.97/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Mahogany murk topped with a massive light tan head. Poor retention, no lacing. Deep yeasty aroma, like fermenting bread dough; it also presents notes of vanilla, clove, and banana. Tastes much the same as it smells, hearty bread with banana and spices. A hint of raisin. Banana cake. A slight tang in the finish. Medium-bodied with medium carbonation. Feels smooth and slightly thick, but not heavy. Simple but flavourful. Pleasant and approachable. Not a great weizenbock, but still a good one.

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Photo of andrenaline
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A new arrival at the local LCBO...

A - Pours a murky cola colour finger of off-white head with some retention and no real lacing.

S - Scent is a tad mild but offers up some musty grains, hints of cloves and bananas with a bready caramel finish.

T - Candied sugar, hints of cloves and spiced apple cider, hints of raisins and toasted grains with a burnt apple flavour that lingers alongside a touch of ABV sweetness.

M - Lighter bodied ale that fills the mouth, goes down smooth and finishes wet.

O - A tasty weizenbock with a decent flavour profile. Nothing overpowering and certainly a sessionable version of the style. These guys know how to brew solid, yet easy drinking, brews. A pleasant addition to the local selection.

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Photo of peensteen
3.77/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Chestnut brown colour, hazy with 2 finger of off white head, good amount of lace as well. Smell is of dark breads, hefty malt bill, cocoa, a bit of dark fruit with a subtle amount of banana and clove as well. Taste is malty, banana bread up front with more dark bread, some mid palate spice, fruit, cocoa and light banana in the finish. Medium carbonation, medium body and even a bit creamy at points as well. Overall this is a decent drink however I would have to say this is more bock than weizen, regardless this was fairly good and relatively inexpensive so this could be something I revisit while it is still on shelves in these parts.

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Photo of SmashPants
2.91/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle: standard 500mL brown bottle, standard German wheat beer macro label.

Appearance: dark amber-brown in colour with a fluffy tan head that drops to one-finger with good retention and lacing.

Aroma: quite a pungent aroma, plenty of yeast, some dark fruits and spices.

Taste: a very interesting combination of flavours - tastes kind of like a strong banana abd clove wheat beer with chocolate and brown sugar poured on top. Definitely not my thing.

Aftertaste: aftertaste is similar with a slight hop bitterness along for the ride.

Mouth feel: a heavy body with moderate fine carbonation. Seems well considered for the style.

Overall: considering some of the great reviews I have heard about this beer I am certain that I am not yet used to this style, but it tastes to me like a thick, strong wheat beer with chocolate and caramel syrup poured into it. Add to that a price tag of AU$70 a case of 12 x 500mL, and this is a no go for me.

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Photo of spinrsx
3.89/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

500ml Bottle from the Ottawa LCBO for 3.45$

Appearance - Hazy brown colour with a large size fizzy beige coloured head. I can't make out the level of carbonation showing and there is some faint lacing. The head lasted for over 5 minutes.

Smell - Malts, dark fruits, banana, wheat

Taste & Mouth - There is an above average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts mixed with dark fruits and wheat. There is also a bit of butterscotch/caramel and some banana. It ends with a fruity and sweet aftertaste.

Overall – I really enjoyed this one. Lots of great flavours that work really well together. The carbonation is a little out of control but other than that this is a winner for me.

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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus from Erdinger Weissbräu
3.85 out of 5 based on 489 ratings.
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