Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus | Erdinger Weissbräu

Erdinger Weissbier PikantusErdinger Weissbier Pikantus
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3.87/5
497 Ratings
Erdinger Weissbier PikantusErdinger Weissbier Pikantus
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Erdinger Weissbräu
Germany
erdinger.de

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.30%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Bierman9 on 01-28-2002

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Photo of GarthDanielson
3/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass (because that's all I have at this time), the beer pours a dark brown to black coloring, with brown highlights around the edges. No head present, but a slight film of bubbling. The beer has smells of caramel, but light due to increased carbonation. Also present are smells of sweet fruits (plums and raisins) and malt. The beer has an initial flavor of milk chocolate and earthy spices. The flavor is quickly followed up by a cherry flavor, with an overcarbonated feel to it. The beer is sharp and overcarbonated in mouth, and the beer does not have enough body to counterbalance this. The beer has a semisweet and smooth aftertaste, with a last second bite of the carbonated feel. The finish is a little lackluster, with an overall feel of sweet letdown. Not a beer that promotes continued drinking, in my opinion.

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Photo of dasenebler
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

.5L, Germany, best by 11/2011.

Pours a murky dark brown, with an excellent, pillowy beige head. Good lacing.

The aroma is very bready-yeasty, with some phenolic plastic action as well. Touch of ripe fruit.

The flavor is rich and malty and not nearly as fruity as I expected. There's a lot of caramel and spice cake, along with some banana bread. Some hops on the finish, which has a slight alcoholic bite to it. The mouthfeel is über-smooth and silky, but needed more sustained effervescence.

An extra malty Weizenbock that is very enjoyable as a winter brew.

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Photo of cambabeer
4.23/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

This beer is great! I think it would be far better, however in a much colder climate than the tropics of Bolivia. Either way very good.

A- Very dark brown, with a hint of red, can't see through it. The dark off-white head isn't all that persistant, but good looking. Looks inviting.

S- Smells like chocolate butterscotch, a little bit of fruit, and some smoky toastiness.

T- Very noticeably alcoholic. Quite toasty. Has some coffee hints in it. Very good

Mouthfeel- Very thick and smooth. Carbonation is just enough to clean the palate.

D- The bottle is big, and the beer so filling, that I couldn't finish even though I really liked it. It's extremely filling. It has a very vivid flavor, so that plus the alcohol flavor could make it hard for some to down. But pretty good over all.

I really like this ale.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.91/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a lovely deep brown colour. It's very dark for a dunkel, but this nicely matches the heavier brew. Head is a bit filmy, but stays consistent throughout, a pale brown/beige colour. Body is pleasantly heavy, and even leaves some carbonation swirling around when tilted. Looks very nice.

Nose is spicy and wheaty, with some dark fruit characters and spiced raisin toast, but also with a leavened note of banana. Still missing a little raw oomph, a little robustness, or something that really punches you in the nose, but the characters it has are nice.

Taste is surprisingly light for a beer weighing in at over 7%, although it has a long palate, giving off nuances of spices, a little toffeed grain, and a banana bread sweetness, especially on the back. Some phenolics come through towards the end too, giving a light astringency, and on the finish, there's a touch of dark roasted malts; in a way, the extra roasted quality matches up with the perceived extra darkness in the appearance.

Feel is full and solid, while still retaining a slickness and lightness that aids the drinkability.

It's not the most full-bodied, or the most flavoursome weizenbock I've had, but it's a very tasty brew nonetheless.

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Photo of BeerSingh
3.57/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The 16 oz bottle was left out for 5 minutes to get the temperature to a nicety. Poured it into a Weihenstephaner tall weizen glass with care - but that didn't stop from the beer to raise an enormous head and was actually left with almost 30% beer still in the bottle after the first pour. The beer poured a nice, dark mahogany colour with purple fringes. The head was smooth and tan coloured, with great retention and massive lacing, almost leaving sugar trails on the glass surface. The beer presented a harmonious marriage of banana and clove with some strong phenols accompanying the hot spice. The aromas left a trail of citrus as well.
I was taken aback with the first sip - had a hard tart bite first up, then slowly dissolving into the more predicatable banana clove regime. The aftertatste was a little tart as well, the carbonation being over the top and all over. I like my wheat beers to be a little smooth on my palate. I really like their Dunkel, but this one I wouldn't reach out for - definitely no patch on Aventinus or Vitus.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.63/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The pour is an opaque dark amber-brown with a billowing tan colored head with excellent retention.

S: The nose is the ever typical German yeast esters of banana and clove. A very strong bread note, it's actually similar to a dark rye bread, maybe even a pumpernickel. There is a fair amount of yeast aroma in and of itself, as well.

T: The flavor is mildly sweet with the banana notes slowly creeping in. A minimal spice note of clove and cinnamon. Some hints of dark fruit (mostly raisins) are there too. The sweetness is not all that pronounced and rather than caramel, I get more of a molasses sort of note.

M: The body is medium with a smooth, creamy carbonation.

D: Not my favorite weizenbock, but it was cheap and one I hadn't tried before. Reasonably drinkable, though.

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Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an almost dark brown body with a quickly dieing two-finger head. The aroma is a good balance of bready, dry malts with a hint of caramel and bitter chocolate and some earthy hops; very minor peppery spices as well. A well-balanced chewey medium body with some residual sweetness like bitter cocoa and caramel with hints of bread/grain all over the body. Mixes w/ herbal, citric hops that have a touch of bitterness and the sharp carbonation in this beer leads to some sharpness in the beer, including a sharp, pointed finish. A little more malt/bock based than hefe but still well-balanced with sweet and citric spiciness and a great beer to relax with.

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Photo of Augustiner719
2.88/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 500ml bottle purchased in Munich Germany into an official erdinger weizen glass.

Pours a very dark and cloudy deep chestnut color with s light tan head that has micro bubbles and a shaving cream like consistency. Really pretty red highlights in the beer. The darkest weizenbocks I have had so far. The aroma has a tinge of banana fosters to it. Really yeasty and shows the booze too much for me. Citrus spike come on the back end. The flavor is not stylistically what I was looking for. Alcohol esters with unfermented sugary malts. Not really what I am enjoying. The mouthfeel finishes dry and it's got good carbonation. Really not stylistically in the realm of other German weizenbocks. Overall it's nothing special and really disappointed me. I have been impressed with erdinger brews but not this one.

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Photo of LacquerHead
3.95/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a very dark brown with a tan head. The head quickly went away leaving a very weak lace - next to nothing. (poured into a Sam Adams pint)

Maybe it's just me, but I thought it smelled like black cherry soda mixed with the average bock beer aroma.

At first I tasted black cherry soda followed by bock beer. It had a dark fruit quality mixed with caramel malt. A nice hops presence. As I progressed the wheat element began to come through

It was very drinkable and the ABV was well masked.

Overall, I was very pleased with this beer and would purchase this again. I could easily drink this all night.

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Photo of CrazyDavros
3.74/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours dark copper with ruby hints and a small off-white head.
Nose shows masses of rich dark malt and some more subtle wheat. Caramel and bready notes are most prominent.
Similarly malty flavours with lots of bready and melanoidin characters, finishing with a mildly alcoholic finish and very gentle bitterness.
Too much carbonation.

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Photo of GilGarp
4.04/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

500 mL brown bottle dated 10/2009. Best before end 28.11.10.

Served cool into a pint glass to enjoy with the Germany world cup game today. Pikantus means 'spicy' or 'sharp' according to the checkout girl. Lets see if that's accurate.

Pikantus is a hazy dark cola brown color with short-lived off-white head.

Aroma is wonderful with dark fruits and subtle warming spices.

Flavor is also very nice. I've recently gotten into this style and brewed my own a month ago. What I like about it is that it's very big on flavor but easily drinkable even on a hot summer's day. Good malty backbone with sweet caramel and milk chocolate overlain with just enough bitterness to balance it out. Great banana and spice notes as well.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with ample carbonation.

Pikantus doesn't disappoint. It's not the best of the style (Aventinus and Vitus are better) but it's certainly worthy of the top ten.

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Photo of brentk56
3.63/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: Pours a cloudy cola brown color with the anticipated mountain of a head; drapes plenty of lace

Smell: Blend of figs, bananas and brown bread, with a hint of clove

Taste: Opens with dark fruits, brown bread and a clove/banana blend that becomes more pronounced by mid-palate; after the swallow, the sweeter flavors becomes a bit cloying, however

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate to high carbonation

Drinkability: The sweetness of the beer tends to become more oppressive half way through the bottle; though I like the style, I couldn't finish this one

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Photo of BDJake
3.27/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A- murky brown with a quickly disappearing, fizzy tan head

S- butterscotch, yeast, some caramel malts and some hop spice

T- butterscotch, toffee, chocolate and even a bit of cola- much like the appearance

M- chewiness is completely shrouded by the soda-like fizziness

D- after a few swigs, it seemed like a chore to finish

I'm not trying to trash this beer, as many seem to like it, but it was a tad bit fizzy for my tastes.

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Photo of Avagadro
3.96/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: The first thing that is noticed with this brew is how dark it is. Most weizenbocks are an earthy orange, but this one is more along the lines of a dopplebock, with a deep mahogany color. Another thing to notice is the immense head. This brew is nearly overcarbonated; the half-liter bottle fills my glass, which is meant to hold both this volume and 1 1/2 fingers of froth, with about 1/3 of the beer still in the bottle. There is also a ton of lacing, and the brew seems free of haze.

S: Bouquet consists of caramel, honey, and clove. Could use a bit more punch though.

T: huge doses of Munich malts, giving caramel and prune notes. This weizenbock seems to rely much more on malts to carry the flavor as opposed to the yeast. Nonetheless, a touch of clove dose contribute to the flavor.

M: medium body with a bit of stickiness, but no chalky yeast. Carbonation is also a major player, sweeping the sweet brew away from your palate.

D: as far as I've learned, a weizenbock is a hefe brewed to bock strength. This example takes another approach, and seems to be more along the lines of a doppel brewed with wheat and a fairly neutral weizen yeast. Both unique and impressive, this is a very enjoyable brew.

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Photo of czfreeman
3.37/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

After a comparison of the top 7 Weissbiers in brew class a few weeks ago, Erdinger came in dead last for their normal weiss, I won't let this affect my opinion of this Weizenbok, as it is one of my favorite styles.
With an very hard pour to evoke the biggest display of head possible, Pikantus produces a rather nce example. Light tan, foamy frothy, settles slowly. The beer itself it a cherry-brown color, mahagony accented by ruby tones in the light. NOrmally would expect(prefer) my Weizenbocks a bit darker, but thats just preference.
On to the aromatics--Munich malt, brown sugar, caramel, a nice sour-oak y tartness I really dig, muskat, cherry, blackberry johannisbeeren. Fresh Dark bread with a molasses glaze follows . Smells dark fruity/sour/spicy, almost of a Belgian dark, but lacks the big yeasty kick found in Belgians. The sweet-sour fruit ends with an overall caramel/malt tone, accented lightly by the mineral-high water sharpness I find in many Bavarian Brews.
First sip, drank at room temp. Sweet candied sugar, malt, maple, plum. The sourness in the aroma is lost, yielding predominantly sweet malts and candied fruits. A much needed boost of carbonation really would take this brew to another level for me.
Overall the alcohol is extremly well hidden, yielding a sweet plum-like brew. This beer unfourtunalty comes up on the low end of the spectrum for me on the Weizenbock scale. I really would like a bit more spiciness, a bit more carbonation...and I would have the perfect Weizenbock i.e, Aveninus or Vitus.

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Photo of whtguitarguy
4.02/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

It looks like Coca Cola that has been shaken up because the head is pretty decent. Head disappears kind of quickly though.Not a lot of yeast sediment. There is a vanilla aroma in there. Taste is like a regular bock, only a little sweeter. There is a light chocolate note along with roasted malts and vanilla. Mouth is heavy but very good. Smooth finish and a bittersweet aftertaste that is quite pleasant. New favorite!

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Photo of roddwolff
4.15/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The first dark wheat beer i taste.

A: Very dark brown color, the foamy head is creamy with two fingers thick, some sediments at the bottom but the label says its ok;

S: Fruity, scents of wheat, blueberries and tamarind;

T: Roasted malt, toffee, prunes and hops;

M: Dry with some sweetness, mild carbonation and hides its high abv concentration;

D: Good to accompany strong meals, one of the best wheat beers i've tasted.

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Photo of rtepiak
3.65/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pour is like a dopplebock. coca cola copper with a big head that fades quickly. nose is a little chocolatey... some raspberry tea as buckeyenation mentioned but very mild. toasty caramel. palate is a bit lost as to what the difference is supposed to be between a doppelbock and a weizenbock. its indistinguishable. no wheat character. not fruit from the wheat malt. a good beer as a doppelbock but not creamy... crisp and hard carbonation like like a doppelbock. some dark fruit of plum and black currant but a bit lost. would like to try this beside there doppelbock and see what the actual difference is.

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Photo of losdizzel
3.76/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a very drinkable beer . because of the all natural bottle-fermentation there is some sediment left over . Kinda high ABV 7.3 !! Reminds me of a very good home brew ,as in tast.But as for a Germen beer a little different for me, a very good beer. Cant wait till Oktober fest to try out of draft . hopes this helps people

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Photo of HalfFull
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From a 500 ml. bottle into a weizen glass, this beer pours quite dark for the style. A medium brown, even black in low light, and with dense ruby/muddled brown highlights. An inch of soapy tan head settles slowly, holding a cap throughout.

Nose of dark fruits and somewhat rich malts, with a yeast nose that is relatively subdued beneath clean caramel and light chocolate notes. Touch of alcohol is present but inconsequential.

Wheat and yeast are more evident in the flavor and join the caramel and chocolate from the nose. Decent lingering finish is pleasant and not too sweet, with a slightly spicy and nutty close as the beer warms. Becomes a bit viscous as the carbonation settles but never really detracts. Good drinkability as the sweetness doesn't overwhelm and the body and flavor keep things interesting.

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Photo of Jwale73
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1pint, 9fl. oz. bottle served in a weizen glass. 10-2009 indicated on the label. Pour was all head - tan in color and slowly cascading as it gradually revealed a murky prune-colored liquid with light highlights around the base of the glass. Head retention is quite good once it reaches a 1.5 inches. Some lacing, but not much in terms of adherence. Nose was light and sweet - dark fruits (plum, raisins, prunes) and perhaps some brown sugar and molasses. Taste follows nose; however, a slightly vinous quality comes out in the mix. Mouthfeel is light-bodied and mildly carbonated with a pleasant clean finish. Delicious and light with a well-hidden abv, while still being quite sweet and flavorful. Can't beat this at $2.99 a bottle either.

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Photo of illidurit
3.63/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a reddish mahogany color with a large fluffy tan head. Nice sheets of lacing. Aroma is dark bready with cinnamon and some Belgian-like esters. A little bit of metallic aroma too. This is a very malty weizenbock without much ester character in the flavor. Dark breads, a hint of vanilla, very light banana pith, a little spiciness. Definitely not as full-flavored or full-bodied as the top examples of the style, but it's still decent. Body is just a tiny bit watery although on some sips it seems creamier. Pretty drinkable.

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Photo of KI9A
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Super dark, frothy head, falls into light lace.

S: Cloves, bubblegum.

T: Above, plus dark fruit. Sharp metallic aftertaste. malty as hell.

M: Somewhat heavy, sweetness lingers. Not nearly as complex as Aventinus.

D: Might be wrong time of the year for me to have this, being a war, semmer evening. Will try again this fall.

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Photo of laituegonflable
4.19/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I'm going to write this review using Proustian syntax:

Pours a very dark caramel colour, dark-brown really, with ochre head that foams up very nice and generous like, then, sizzling, sinks down to a one-finger thickness, producing lacing that, while slippery, is typical of the bock style; is it simply a bock thing, I wonder, taking in the fact that this beer is too dark really to make out cloud, but looks pretty clear; overall, a beer that is decent.

Nose is nice and spicy, with a nice hit of black pepper and tabasco, elements of a good shiraz as well, with some fruity hints putting me in mind of red grape skin, berries, and maybe figs as well, while a slightly chocolatey malt creeps in, making this pleasant, and complex.

Taste is very chocolatey, with a rich cocoa flavour taking precedence on both the first touch and the finish; a good spice element to it as well, with hints of pepper, cumin, even chilli on the back, although less fruit than I maybe expected, with the taste being a lot more dry, with a lightly tart bent; the beer is predominantly spicy, underlain by that pleasant chocolate malt, while as for the mouthfeel, is has an excellent sizzle to it that complements that spice perfectly, although it seems to my mind a little thin; at least that would be my sole criticism - because the flavour is not a knockout punch, it doesn't matter too much - as well as a slight alcohol pang on the back which is the only hint that this is a slightly heavier beer although the pang, noticeable as it is, is not a rude jolt but rather more of a nudge.

The flavours being subdued is not really a detractor here because they're still complex, interesting and tempting me to explore them further; it also makes this surprisingly sessionable - pleasant and mild but interesting, I would say - that makes me enjoy the Pikantus ride immensely.

And then I fell into a daze and moaned for several hundred pages about a girl I loved.

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Photo of DerBayer
4.27/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A - A black tar kind colour with a slightly brownish head

S - Smells of cloves slightly acidic, dark fruits and citrus aromas over caramel malts

T - This is where this beer really falls short of other Weizenbock beers its too citrussy and spicey in taste almost pikant as the name implies when it should be fruity

M - Very refreshing good carbonation and nice full body

D - Very drinkable you dont realy feel the alcohol in this one

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Erdinger Weissbier Pikantus from Erdinger Weissbräu
Beer rating: 3.87 out of 5 with 497 ratings
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