Schneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner Hopfenweisse | Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH

Schneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner HopfenweisseSchneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner Hopfenweisse
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Schneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner HopfenweisseSchneider Weisse Tap 5 Schneider & Brooklyner Hopfenweisse
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Weisses Bräuhaus G. Schneider & Sohn GmbH
Germany
schneider-weisse.de

Style: Weizenbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Schneider version. This brew is the result of the long friendship of Brooklyn brewmaster Garrett Oliver and Schneider brewmaster Hans-Peter Drexler. Garrett had always admired the delicate balance of flavors in Schneider Weisse, while Hans-Peter had long enjoyed the effusive hop character of Brooklyn East India Pale Ale and BLAST! Garrett's concept for the collaboration was that each brewmaster would brew essentially the same pale, hoppy weissbock in the other's brewery, but with different hopping to reflect the local hop flavor.

Dry-hopped w/ Hallertauer Saphir.

Added by John_M on 07-16-2007

BEER STATS
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#2,156
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Ratings:
1,402
Liked:
1,191
Avg:
4.09/5
pDev:
11%
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Ratings: 1,402 |  Reviews: 768
Photo of Sammy
4/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

They aimed to do a weizen bock with extra hopping, and did so. Interesting and smooth. A nice bitterness. Medium mouthfeel, the wheat aroma dominates and is the initial taste. After that the bitterness overwhelms the palate.I can't wait to try the Brooklyn version.

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Photo of kylehay2004
3.74/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Half finger head with lots of lacing on a hazy golden with copper hue body.

S: yeast, tropical fruit, syrup, banana, clove and medicinal notes.

T: spicy, medicinal and tangy/fruity hops, syrups, wheat, peppercorn.

M: syrupy, fairly thick body with light to moderate carbonation.

Overall: Nice hop flavor, complex for the style.

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.13/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled 2/7/12.

Pours a murky, turbid orange-brown with a 2 inch foamy bone colored head that settles to a thin cap on top of the beer. Foamy patches of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of wheat, grain, spices, slight hops, and lots of yeast aromas. There is also a bit of a soapy or chalky aroma that I am getting as well. Taste is of yeast, spice, and hops up front with the wheat/grain flavors coming through in the finish. The hop flavors are quite citrus-like and do not really contribute too much bitterness to take away from the overall beer. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a really good beer and I quite enjoy the hopped up take on a hefeweizen.

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.95/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

an unlikely collaboration, and a beer I really enjoyed. this pours cloudy pale brass color with a good two inch white head. the nose is really hoppy. so many hopfen beers just pay lip service to it, but this one is super hoppy in terms aroma. there is fruity hops, almost citra, but apparently some hallertau variety is used. its more hoppy than almost any other german thing ive had, and I love it. there is also a lot of heavier wheat malt and alcohol taste to this, as well as a very dry finish that is fruity and bitter from these hops. the is entirely unlike any weizenbock ive had out there, and one that I will be coming back to. its a little filling, and the alcohol can get you going pretty quick, but the flavors are fantastic and the mouthfeel works for what it is. really good carbonation on such a full bodied beer is a nice change of pace. overall the highlight of this beer for me is the hop complexion, its big and bold and unique, especially for the style. the is exceptionally well done.

edit: this is a little harsher from the tap, more residuals, more bitterness, a sweetness too, not as evolved on the yeast front. one of those odd beers i much prefer in the bottle for whatever reason, they two formats yield a vastly different product, strange as it sounds...

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

Photo of Knapp85
3.73/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer pours out as a hazy looking golden yellow color with a strong fluffy white colored head. The lacing on the glass is pretty good. The smell of the beer is indeed hoppy, there is also a nice fresh wheat aromas too. The taste of the beer has a nice sweet taste upfront with the grainy wheat and some banana that quickly turns into a bitter hoppy aftertaste. The mouthfeel is on the lighter side and pretty refreshing. Overall this beer is pretty good, I enjoyed the two varieties coming together.

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4.25/5  rDev +3.9%

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4/5  rDev -2.2%

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3.75/5  rDev -8.3%

Photo of metter98
4/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured hazy dark yellow into a weizen glass with a good-sized head. A moderate amount of carbonation is visible from the rising bubbles, along with some yeast particles floating near the bottom.
S: The smell is filled with aromas of citrus, hops and spices along with some hints of alcohol.
T: There are lots of flavors of grapefruit and orange in the taste. Spices and hops are also evident in the flavors, particularly in the finish, which is somewhat bitter. The overall taste isn't quite as hoppy as compared to the Brooklyn version.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate with a bit of alcohol heat.
D: The beer seems to be a bit more drinkable than its hoppier Brooklyn cousin, but the alcohol will definitely catch up to you if you try to drink it too quick.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.17/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My, all my... what a surprise and a welcome breath of fresh air. Perfect for the summer season. A dry-hopped, high-quality Hefeweizen. Hans Drexler and Garret Oliver combines to make a beer steeped in German traditions, yet agressively hopped the American way. The beer opens with a less desirable dirty appearance, but hold a terrific foam stand, with soft, subtle carbonation. Big estery aromas of clove, tropical fruits (banannas, pineapples, grapefruit and lemons), spicy, peppery, and an abundance of grassy hop aroma. The aromas continue past the fresh fruits and spices with a Weizen-Bock 'dirty' or 'muddled' aroma, yet dominated by German hops. The taste continues with the soft, confectionate wheat malt / barley malt sweetness, followed by estery spiciness and fruitiness, and compounded further with high hop flavor. The bitterness stays in check with less hop 'bite' and more of a wheat-malt pillow for the clove, bananna, and fruits. Finishes fruity, spicy, and malty. Not the cleanest of all beers, despite the hop dryness late. Though the beer has some complex earthy notes that linger a bit further than they need to, this is a highly creative brew with all of the nuances of a classic Dunkel-Weiss, but with an IPA-dry hop punch. Very clever guys. Make sure you keep us guessing. I'm going to drink a lot more of this beer this summer.

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Photo of biboergosum
4.1/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

500ml bottle - nice to see the flip-side of last year's Brooklyner-Schneider offering arrive in our remote metropolitan outpost.

This beer pours a cloudy and fine sediment-strewn, bright golden amber hue, with two fingers of tightly frothy eggshell white head, which leaves some nice volcanic island atoll lace around the glass as it perfunctorily recedes.

It smells of tart orange citrus, unripe banana, cloves, grainy wheat, sassy white pepper, and further fruity and floral hops. The taste is softly sweet wheat malt, some prominent fruitiness - orange, pineapple, lemon, and dry banana - soft, lilting spice of the clove and red pepper sort, a simple earthy and leafy hoppiness (and agreeably bitter, for the style), with a wee speck of booze warming - barely a tingle, as it approaches room temperature.

The carbonation is quite obviously a central character in this show, with the bottle fermentation a pivotal plot point, and even with a less than standard initial CO2 send-off, the bubbles are quite soft and pleasant. This leads to a relatively unaccosted, generally smooth body, and a clean grainy, hoppy, fruity, spicy, and subtly boozy finish - all agreeably entwined, I might add.

A deftly integrated, duly hoppy, and strong wheat beer, the result more tasty than I may have been expecting, especially given the presence (absence?) of the full-on Houdini treatment of the big alcohol component. Good stuff, and cheers/Prost to the furtherance of this fruitful and 'hopful' [sic] collaboration.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.8/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On-draught @ Schneider's Brauhaus in Munich. .5L for $4.59 euro. Served in a weissbierglas.

HEAD: Off-white. Frothy as hell - wow! Flocculent soft consistency. Billowing foam. ~6cm side. Recedes fully in ~4-5 minutes, leaving nice lacing as it recedes.

BODY: Hazy orange of nice vibrance. No yeast/lees is visible within. Slightly turbid from the yeast/lack of filtration.

It's a classic hefeweizen/weizenbock appearance. I'm eager to try it.

AROMA: Hop character is more pronounced than you'd expect in a traditional weizenbock, but then that's exactly what they seem to be after. Floral and herbal hops, fresh wheat, fresh clean barley. A hint of banana, though any delicate esters are tough to find beneath the hoppy veneer. Clove, sure. Bubblegum? Orange peel? Nah.

Aromatic intensity is above average, especially given the pungency of the hops. Suggests a hop-emphatic brew that is anything but a traditional weizenbock, but I'm optimistic; between Schneider and Brooklyn, I'm definitely in good hands.

No booziness. No off-notes.

TASTE: The herbal hops lend this atraditional brew an interesting element, and under the guidance of maestro brewers at Brooklyn and Schneider, dareisay the more pronounced hop character actually comes off naturally integrated into the otherwise conventional weizenbock build. Hop-forward without being obnoxious or imbalanced.

Indeed, the choice of hops was a good one, as this herbal hop character plays well with the yeast's bubblegummy ester. Cannabis does come to mind, but the hop flavour here is more floral than dank.

Subtle clove is indicated by a subtle almost roggen-like spiciness, but that's it in terms of yeast esters... you get only bubblegum and clove here; look elsewhere (e.g. Ayinger, across the street) if you're after orange peel and/or banana.

In classic Schneider Weisse fashion, the wheat backbone feels fresh, and its complementary barley malt clean.

Its balance is its triumph, the beer somehow eschewing centuries of convention and tradition and espousing a hop-forward yet not-too-bitter flavour profile. But then, Schneider of all weizen breweries knows tradition, and you have to know the rules well before you can know how best to break them.

Well-built, even if the bubblegum ester is a bit too prominent for my personal taste. Nice depth of flavour. Above average flavour intensity. Flavour duration is also increased, with faint hop oils trailing off through the aftertaste.

TEXTURE: Light to medium-bodied, refreshing, smooth, wet, a bit oily, well (if a bit highly) carbonated, pleasant, and approachable. Never hot, boozy, syrupy, or rough. But less of a thick, filling presence on the palate would be nice. Could be softer and lighter, to its benefit.

Complements the flavour profile nicely.

OVERALL: So often, a collaboration brew is a thinly veiled marketing gimmick wherein a mediocre "too many cooks in the kitchen" beer is brewed and released by two or more breweries in order to exploit opportunities for crossover brand promotion. This, folks, is anything but that.

An innovative and remarkably brewed expression of the weizenbock style, Meine Hopfenweisse is yet more proof that Schneider is, if not the best wheat beer producer worldwide (and there's a case to be made that it is), then the most versatile one. Who else can claim to have both saved wheat beer and to have modernized it? Schneider balances an all but unrivaled grip on tradition with a rare willingness to experiment - even if that means ripping a page out of the book of contemporary American brewing; if anything, this beer is a paragon for what German beer should be going forward: traditional at its core, but open-minded and innovative where it will be of benefit.

Highly drinkable stuff from two breweries that really know what they're doing. This is nothing short of a must-try for discerning drinkers mature enough to understand that factors like subtlety and balance trump boldness and extremity any day of the week. What a fantastic marriage of German tradition and contemporary hop fixation.

Having said all that, the last thing I want is to see a wave of overhopped American attempts at the hefeweizen and weizenbock styles, so it's worth noting - just because Schneider and Brooklyn can do it doesn't mean American breweries should try to (even - or perhaps especially - under the guise of "pushing the envelope" {a phrase so increasingly tired in craft beer, it seems to have inadvertently become an ironic euphemism for "failed experiment"}).

Low B+ (3.80) / VERY GOOD

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Brief review from a (likely old) bottle in 2014:

Served at a bar in Sofia, BG.

H: 1.5 fingers worth of off-white foam. Nice creamy thick consistency. Bright complexion. 5 min retention.

B: Hazy yellow orange-yellow with visible yeast within. Inviting.

Sm: Fresh wheat. Clove. Yeasty intricacy. Banana. Citrus. Cream. Appealing.

T: Clove, vitaminy yeast, biscuit, fresh wheat. Citrus/orange peel.

Mf: Refreshing, crisp, smooth.

High C+

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Photo of emerge077
3.88/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hazy, rusty amber pour, with lots of creamy dense foam. The yeast pour renders it opaque.

Citric lemon aroma, clovey too. Some hoppy sharpness, that becomes somewhat medicinal over time.

Starts out bold, wheaty with a hoppy bite, citrusy in the finish. Dry resinous aftertaste. Traditional Hefe character is overshadowed by the liberal hopping a little bit. Some astringency that builds quickly if you gulp it. Not much banana/clove action. Smooth, wheaty on the palate, full but never overwhelming. Feels fairly traditional in that respect. Drinkability is good, perfect for the summertime.

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Photo of brentk56
3.18/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours a cloudy honey color with a sturdy head that sticks forever but only leaves a few dots of lace

Smell: Quite the unusual aroma, with herbal hops combined with the green banana and clove; the combination is somewhat medicinal and the alcohol peeking through adds to that effect

Taste: Herbacious, grassy flavors compete with the clove and banana in a do-si-do; lemony as well; after the swallow, the bitter hoppy flavors moderate and it takes on more of the weizenbock character, albeit quite lemony

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with buoyant carbonation; some warmth in the gullet, too

Drinkability: From the outset the hoppy flavors compete with the weizen flavors and while it may be a draw, my taste buds are the losers; the combination just doesn't work for me

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Photo of zeff80
4.39/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a clear, golden orange color with a bubbly, one-finger head of white foam. It left trails of soapy lace.

S - It smelled nutty and malty. Lots of clove aroma and mild wheat notes.

T - It tasted spicy and hoppy. A good blend of maltiness and wheat flavors. There are some clove flavors, too.

M - It was crisp and sharp with a smooth finish. A light to medium-bodied brew.

D - This is a really delicious weizenbock. Lighter in color than most but it tastes great.

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3.75/5  rDev -8.3%

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.85/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Bu11zeye: Poured a murky brown color weisse with a big foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of wheat with some dry Hallertauer hops is different and very interesting. Taste is also dominated by wheat with huge floral and dry hops combining to make a really interesting beer. Body is full with limited filtration and loads of lees at the bottom with some great carbonation with no apparent alcohol. The malt somehow reminded me of a double wheat brewed by the Middle Ages brewery. Interesting but not necessarily something I would go for very often - I will stick with the regular weisse which is still a very good staple of the style.

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Photo of largadeer
3.3/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: A hazy, almost opaque wheat-colored body with three fingers of white foam. Head retention and lace are outstanding, especially for a high ABV beer.

Smell: Banana bread, ginger, clove and spicy, peppery hops. A lot of sweetness from the malt and esters and pehnols from the yeast that fight with the hops for dominance.

Taste & mouthfeel: Sweet, initially at least, followed by an herbal, spicy hop blast. Hop flavors are prominent but bitterness is restrained. Signature banana and clove hefeweizen flavors are present, along with dashes of coriander, nutmeg and mace. The spiciness and sweetness are almost overwhelming, but it remains drinkable and fairly enjoyable, probably because no one characteristic is overwhelming. Still, I feel there's too much going on here; the sweetness and intense yeast profile don't truly allow the hops to come through. It's a good beer, I can't fault it much, but I have little desire to drink it again.

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Photo of superspak
3.78/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

500 ml bottle into weizen glass, bottled 9/27/2011. Pours super hazy dark red orange color with a nice 2-3 finger dense off white head with fantastic retention that reduces to a nice cap that lasts. Some nice spotty lacing on the glass; with plenty of carbonation streaming up as expected. Aromas of big sweet lemon zest, orange peel, bubblegum, biscuit, tropical fruits, wheat, banana, coriander, herbal, light pepper, and light caramel. Nice and well balanced aromas with good complexity. Taste of big lemon zest, orange peel, bubblegum, wheat, biscuit, caramel, banana, clove, light pepper, herbal, and tropical fruit. Lingering notes of citrus, tropical fruit, pepper, biscuit, herbal, bubblegum, and tangy wheat on the finish for a good bit. Medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a creamy and slightly slick mouthfeel. Slightly cloying sweetness on the finish, but not too bad. Nice balance of flavors with good complexity. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming after the finish; and this is very smooth to drink. Overall this is a very nice and enjoyable weizenbock. It is definitely the fruitiest wheat beer I have come across; but has a fair amount of spiciness to balance it out in the taste.

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Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev -2.2%

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Beer rating: 85% out of 100 with 1,402 ratings
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