He Said (Baltic Porter) | 21st Amendment Brewery

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84
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518 Ratings
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He Said (Baltic Porter)He Said (Baltic Porter)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
21st Amendment Brewery
California, United States
21st-amendment.com

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Fall

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Beerlover on 10-03-2013

BEER STATS
Ratings:
518
Reviews:
111
Avg:
3.7
pDev:
11.62%
 
 
Wants:
13
Gots:
79
For Trade:
0
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Photo of craftaholic
1.43/5  rDev -61.4%
look: 2.75 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

looked good... tasted like death

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Photo of mpedara429
1.74/5  rDev -53%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.25

A: Poured out a cola color with one finger of tan colored head.

S: A lot of pumpkin and spice. Can’t make out all the spices but definitely smelling ginger.

T: The spice and pumpkin are overkill. There is a tannic bitterness that had me repeatedly sticking out my tongue. On the backside, I’m finally getting some of the roasted malt I was expecting.

M: Medium body that is a bit oily. Medium carbonation.

O: The tannic bitterness was truly unbearable and making me gag. Way over spiced to enjoy any of the good qualities that are in the background.

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Photo of Aje504
1.96/5  rDev -47%

Photo of humulusphile
2/5  rDev -45.9%

Photo of DeutschesBier
2/5  rDev -45.9%

Photo of logicalparadox
2.25/5  rDev -39.2%

It pours dark, almost with a hint of dread. It's got a beautiful head that, though it dissipates rather quickly, leaves behind a decent crown of lacing.

The nose is full of rich coffee and... I guess... pumpkin? I'm not quite sure what that is. Spice! Cinnamon, for sure. A melange of pumpkin pie spices, but deep and dark, rather than sweet and blooming. I almost get a bit of something woody, like saw dust or balsam on the nose. I think that's the cinnamon playing tricks on me.

The taste is roasty, deep, and vaguely bitter. Dark chocolate and coffee as one would expect, but the spices do some weird stuff... I get something reminiscent of tobacco or resinous, like... bong water. You just can't make this stuff up! Some graphite and pencil shavings, too. It's interesting, but not altogether great. I think the balance may be off here. The finish is dark chocolate, but dense brownie, but dryer than you'd think.

M: Big. Rich. Full bodied. But not as heavy as expected.

Overall... the whole is less than the sum of it's parts. The flavors are fighting here. There's no gestalt. It's lacking a unifying theme... or at least once that pulls it all together. Some interesting flavors, but not all of them are pleasant. Sorry... I've gotta drop the points down on this one.

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Photo of mendvicdog
2.25/5  rDev -39.2%

Photo of Metz
2.25/5  rDev -39.2%

Photo of HannahSea
2.43/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Photo of MikeLenehan
2.5/5  rDev -32.4%

Photo of Doodamis-Maximus
2.5/5  rDev -32.4%

Photo of timoteo833
2.52/5  rDev -31.9%

Photo of mactrail
2.72/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This is just too strange. The odor is just simply a light saurkraut with the Old Oaken Bucket. Mossy and weedy and vegetable broth.rubber. Clean new tennis shoes. Not much carbonation. Color is an orangey brown.

Taste is old tomatoes and stewed barley with an intriguing woody note. A touch of burnt sugar and rubber. The pumpkin flavor actually comes through all that, and it's the best feature of this absurdity. I blame Elysian. From the 12 oz can purchased at Haggen's Market in Burlington, Wash.

Another can from a four-pack purchased at Pioneer Market in La Conner had more foam but the strange odor and plasticky note.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
2.73/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The nose is interesting, to say the least. It's one part pumpkin ale, one part big lager. Just like the tripel, I do find the spicing overly strong. This one seems very gingery to me. Still, touches of smoke, dark fruits, lightly roasted grain, and some diacetyl show up with vigor. But holy balls, this one tastes spicy. I get massive flavors of ginger, nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon, to the point of excess. There is a touch of actual pumpkin character near the back end, along with a chocolaty 'bite'. This is way too spicy tasting in general, however. It feels a bit slimy on the palate, though this comes with the territory of the style. All in all, this one doesn't work very well, due to how out of balance this one is. I expected this to be a little better than the tripel version, but it just isn't.

2.73/5: I said: OVERSPICED

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Photo of gwiedman1
2.75/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Typical of the style. Not my thing.

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Photo of ThickNStout
2.8/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

12oz can from Total Wine (Kennesaw, GA). 9.99/ 4 pack. Canned 9/9/13. Served in a Pumpking goblet.

Pours deep dark brown with chestnut highlights and about a finger and a half manilla head. Leaves a thin layer on top and a touch of lace.

Aromas of pumpkin pie and cocoa. A sweet, interesting blend of pie spice and roast malts.

Tastes bitter, pumpkin, spice, roast, metallic, some sort of bitter strangeness and a little booze. Interesting but lacking balance and smoothness.

Semi creamy, medium thin body with fairly lively carbonation. Spiced pumpkin, roasty chocolate malt and bitter finish.

I appreciate the effort to make something differen in a pumpkin beer with this one just doesn't work for me.

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Photo of Lukass
2.91/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours like a normal Baltic porter. Black, with a little brown shining through on the top, with a creamy khaki head that dissipated after about 10 min. Smell is already off to a bad start. Smells of cheap Concord grape wine, and the spices come off like gluhwein and peanut butter. In other words, a PB and J sandwich, but not in a good way. Taste is much of the same - peanut butter and jelly, and the astringent heat of alcohol like a cheap malt liquor. I don't know if I got a bad batch or what, but I almost drain poured this one (would've been my second..). I don't know what they were thinking with the spices on this one but it was just nasty. I'm normally a fan of 21st amendment but this one fell way short of what I was expecting. Much different from the other He Said, which was phenomenal, IMO.

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Photo of timmos1
2.98/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

On tap at brewery in San leandro. Read the reviews first, had to weigh in on this one. It's smoky, dark and deep. Good leathery feel. That's the good stuff. On the other hand, the power of the smokiness pretty much obliterates the pumpkin spice . It's difficult to figure out what they are aiming for here. It finishes hoppy, which is ok for an 8% beer, but its got some astringent notes that come with the dark or smoked malt. If you can swallow a pint of this you're a better man than I am.

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Photo of ConradKenney
3/5  rDev -18.9%

Photo of tjcamm
3/5  rDev -18.9%

Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -18.9%

Photo of Steve_Dave
3/5  rDev -18.9%

Photo of masterofsparks
3/5  rDev -18.9%

Photo of justintcoons
3/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12 oz can poured into a stemmed tulip.

Appearance
Near black with 1 finger of khaki head.

Nose
Prune, plum, apricot, and cocoa.

Taste
Prune, black plum, and apricot. Some smoke, charcoal, and powdered cocoa. Strange sweet pumpkin flavors with a touch of allspice.

Mouthfeel
Medium bodied, smooth, and clean with a light bitterness.

Overall
It's got some strange flavors going on, but the smoothness of the lager makes up for it.

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Photo of scottDC
3/5  rDev -18.9%

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He Said (Baltic Porter) from 21st Amendment Brewery
3.7 out of 5 based on 518 ratings.
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