He Said (Baltic Porter) | 21st Amendment Brewery

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He Said (Baltic Porter)He Said (Baltic Porter)

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21st Amendment Brewery
California, United States

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Fall

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Added by Beerlover on 10-03-2013

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Photo of mpedara429
1.74/5  rDev -53%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.25

A: Poured out a cola color with one finger of tan colored head.

S: A lot of pumpkin and spice. Can’t make out all the spices but definitely smelling ginger.

T: The spice and pumpkin are overkill. There is a tannic bitterness that had me repeatedly sticking out my tongue. On the backside, I’m finally getting some of the roasted malt I was expecting.

M: Medium body that is a bit oily. Medium carbonation.

O: The tannic bitterness was truly unbearable and making me gag. Way over spiced to enjoy any of the good qualities that are in the background.

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Photo of logicalparadox
2.25/5  rDev -39.2%

It pours dark, almost with a hint of dread. It's got a beautiful head that, though it dissipates rather quickly, leaves behind a decent crown of lacing.

The nose is full of rich coffee and... I guess... pumpkin? I'm not quite sure what that is. Spice! Cinnamon, for sure. A melange of pumpkin pie spices, but deep and dark, rather than sweet and blooming. I almost get a bit of something woody, like saw dust or balsam on the nose. I think that's the cinnamon playing tricks on me.

The taste is roasty, deep, and vaguely bitter. Dark chocolate and coffee as one would expect, but the spices do some weird stuff... I get something reminiscent of tobacco or resinous, like... bong water. You just can't make this stuff up! Some graphite and pencil shavings, too. It's interesting, but not altogether great. I think the balance may be off here. The finish is dark chocolate, but dense brownie, but dryer than you'd think.

M: Big. Rich. Full bodied. But not as heavy as expected.

Overall... the whole is less than the sum of it's parts. The flavors are fighting here. There's no gestalt. It's lacking a unifying theme... or at least once that pulls it all together. Some interesting flavors, but not all of them are pleasant. Sorry... I've gotta drop the points down on this one.

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Photo of mactrail
2.72/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This is just too strange. The odor is just simply a light saurkraut with the Old Oaken Bucket. Mossy and weedy and vegetable broth.rubber. Clean new tennis shoes. Not much carbonation. Color is an orangey brown.

Taste is old tomatoes and stewed barley with an intriguing woody note. A touch of burnt sugar and rubber. The pumpkin flavor actually comes through all that, and it's the best feature of this absurdity. I blame Elysian. From the 12 oz can purchased at Haggen's Market in Burlington, Wash.

Another can from a four-pack purchased at Pioneer Market in La Conner had more foam but the strange odor and plasticky note.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
2.73/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The nose is interesting, to say the least. It's one part pumpkin ale, one part big lager. Just like the tripel, I do find the spicing overly strong. This one seems very gingery to me. Still, touches of smoke, dark fruits, lightly roasted grain, and some diacetyl show up with vigor. But holy balls, this one tastes spicy. I get massive flavors of ginger, nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon, to the point of excess. There is a touch of actual pumpkin character near the back end, along with a chocolaty 'bite'. This is way too spicy tasting in general, however. It feels a bit slimy on the palate, though this comes with the territory of the style. All in all, this one doesn't work very well, due to how out of balance this one is. I expected this to be a little better than the tripel version, but it just isn't.

2.73/5: I said: OVERSPICED

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Photo of ThickNStout
2.8/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

12oz can from Total Wine (Kennesaw, GA). 9.99/ 4 pack. Canned 9/9/13. Served in a Pumpking goblet.

Pours deep dark brown with chestnut highlights and about a finger and a half manilla head. Leaves a thin layer on top and a touch of lace.

Aromas of pumpkin pie and cocoa. A sweet, interesting blend of pie spice and roast malts.

Tastes bitter, pumpkin, spice, roast, metallic, some sort of bitter strangeness and a little booze. Interesting but lacking balance and smoothness.

Semi creamy, medium thin body with fairly lively carbonation. Spiced pumpkin, roasty chocolate malt and bitter finish.

I appreciate the effort to make something differen in a pumpkin beer with this one just doesn't work for me.

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Photo of Lukass
2.91/5  rDev -21.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours like a normal Baltic porter. Black, with a little brown shining through on the top, with a creamy khaki head that dissipated after about 10 min. Smell is already off to a bad start. Smells of cheap Concord grape wine, and the spices come off like gluhwein and peanut butter. In other words, a PB and J sandwich, but not in a good way. Taste is much of the same - peanut butter and jelly, and the astringent heat of alcohol like a cheap malt liquor. I don't know if I got a bad batch or what, but I almost drain poured this one (would've been my second..). I don't know what they were thinking with the spices on this one but it was just nasty. I'm normally a fan of 21st amendment but this one fell way short of what I was expecting. Much different from the other He Said, which was phenomenal, IMO.

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Photo of timmos1
2.98/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

On tap at brewery in San leandro. Read the reviews first, had to weigh in on this one. It's smoky, dark and deep. Good leathery feel. That's the good stuff. On the other hand, the power of the smokiness pretty much obliterates the pumpkin spice . It's difficult to figure out what they are aiming for here. It finishes hoppy, which is ok for an 8% beer, but its got some astringent notes that come with the dark or smoked malt. If you can swallow a pint of this you're a better man than I am.

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Photo of justintcoons
3/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12 oz can poured into a stemmed tulip.

Near black with 1 finger of khaki head.

Prune, plum, apricot, and cocoa.

Prune, black plum, and apricot. Some smoke, charcoal, and powdered cocoa. Strange sweet pumpkin flavors with a touch of allspice.

Medium bodied, smooth, and clean with a light bitterness.

It's got some strange flavors going on, but the smoothness of the lager makes up for it.

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Photo of Goblinmunkey7
3.06/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

Appearance: Nearly straight black with a creamy dark khaki head. Super creamy with a moderate retention. Pretty standard affair for the style.

Smell: Roasted malt with some old coffee. Spice component runs heavy on cinnamon and nutmeg with some backing clove and allspice. A touch of pumpkin flesh buried in there. Some sweeter canned pumpkin with a hint of shortbread and pie crust. Buttery with so men Cocos thrown in the mix. Dark chocolate pumpkin bread without the sweetness.

Taste: Roasted pumpkin seeds. A touch of bitter citrus rind. Some serious pumpkin spice with a ton of clove and cinnamon. Nutmeg and allspice make an appearance. Roasted malts help balance some of the more assertive spice notes. Cocoa dusted pumpkin flesh. A bit vegetal in the back. Bitter, almost charred on the back. Some.caramelized sweetness. Burnt chocolate pumpkin bread.

Mouthfeel: Slightly creamy medium body with a moderate carbonation. A bit bubbly with a relatively clean finish.

Overall: He said with melancholy.

It's a bit rough around the edges. Spice runs a bit too high and the malts help when cold, but warming makes it a bit more jarring.

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Photo of Jackofallbrews
3.19/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

The first I'll review is the Baltic Porter, brewed with pumpkin, Vietnamese cinnamon, and caraway seed.

Aroma: Strong anise aroma, followed by some sweet cinnamon. I get a woodsy or herbal note as it warms. A bit of roastiness and some malty sweetness as well.

Appearance: Deep brown in color with ruby highlights--not totally opaque. Fine tannish head, that fades fairly quickly.

Flavor: Very strong spicing up front--gingery, liquorice or anise (probably the caraway, but I didn't know that was an ingredient at the time...) Some earthy, almost vegetal or peaty flavors. Ends somewhat roasty and dry, almost burnt coffee--more like a dry stout. Not much body in here for such a big beer. I get a bit more sweetness as it warms up.

Overall: A bit thin and dry for a Baltic porter. The combination of roast and spice with thin body lead to an astringent finish that I don't love. Spices are very strong in this one. I wanted so much more from these guys!

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.3/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

From the 12 oz can in a pint glass. This porter pours a blackish brown with a nice head of tan foam that subsides to a thick ring and layer with nice lacing. Nose of cinnamon, mace, roasted malts, brown sugars, and vegetable notes. Flavors follow the nose with light spiced pumpkin and near charred brown sugar with a nutmeg background. Good for the pumpkin lover. Lightly dry finish. Moderate carbonation. Not my cup of brew. Looking forwards to the triple and hoping for a better outcome. Love 21st Amendment, not a fan of this one though.

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Photo of Keepmywitbieraboutme
3.33/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This was gifted me and a gift I'd always appreciated.

A- almost a shark eye black with pinky of tan head. Dull, not shiny, but still pleased.

S- I get the spice and roast of a normal Baltic, but I get a faint smoldered wood that I like.

T- fair roast leaving toward burnt. Cooking chocolate and biscuit. Not hating it.

M- slight thinness with which I disagree. However I could get passed it.

O- well worth the try. A nice notch on the belt if you will since I have never seen this until presented to me.

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Photo of GuinnessAtRogerWilco
3.34/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

12oz can poured into a Chimay goblet.

AP: Pours a deep rich very dark brown colour, only a couple shades off of black. Solid and thick looking. Not a big head on this, only about 1/2" of light tan fluffy foam that dwindles to 1/4". Light lacing on the glass.
AR: Heavy baking chocolate aroma with some espresso in the background. Not getting any pumpkin aroma in this and the spices (nutmeg, allspice) are very faint. The chocolate is the dominant scent though I do get a little of black bread, dark fruit (fig, raisin) and molasses buried under the chocolate. Smells nice, but I do hope the flavour doesn't reflect the nose and I'll get more of the other flavours and not just mostly chocolate.
T: Have to say, I'm not impressed with the flavours on this. They seem watered down in the mouth, nothing like the aroma. And they aren't in balance, they are all over the place with each flavour running around on it's own. No structure to speak of here. The chocolate is fainter than the nose and mostly makes it's appearance at the end. There's a bit of roast at the fore and middle. I'm getting some kind of metallic taste as well that's off putting for me. This is rather disappointing.
M: Like the flavour, the body on this is watery and way light for an 8.2% Baltic Porter. Carbonation is moderate, no creaminess which I'd expect some from the style.
OV: Mediocre effort far as I'm concerned. The look and nose were solid so I've no idea where they went wrong with this. Body and flavours were just too watery for me and really let me down here. Their He Said Tripel was very good, so I don't understand how they got this one wrong. I think they should scrap this one and just brew more of the Tripel.

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Photo of smakawhat
3.36/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from the can into a nonic pint glass.

Deep dark walnut black, with some sliver of red, but pretty much uniform dark body caps with a large three to four finger soapy thick light tan head. Faint light cocoa color a bit also and shampoo like clumping.

Pumpkin beer like spice senses of clove and nutmeg, a little bit of chocolate senses but not much roasty character. A bit dry and almost nutty tannic, and some almost sensing pounded and fresh dried clove, quite hot.

Palate comes with a sense of good silky milk quality at first. Then there is that dry alcohol sense nearly fussel mixing in with pumpkin like spices. Charring roast adds on the aftertaste and really exacerbates the bitterness. The flavors are not gelling well, and the bitterness is not a pleasant one.

Overall it's got the spiced pumpkin profile similar to it's tripel, but it's bitterness is really not in control here and doesn't make for a very enjoyable beer experience. It's ok.

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Photo of bishopdc0
3.37/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Jet black with a thick creamy tan head, beautiful

The nose reminds me of grape medicine I had as a kid, very fruity the malts and the spice lend to an almost medicinal flavor, not in a bad way, if that make sense.

The taste is more baltic porter than spice, unlike the triple IMO. The flavor melded well better.

Its not an every day beer certainly but not bad.

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Photo of mvanaskie13
3.42/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Poured into a pint glass, color is black, kind of dense, head is tan, light lacing, lingers well with a nice cap.

Smell is has a nice cinnamon kick, maybe some light ginger, then some sweeter malt character, spiciness lingers.

Taste is a little neutral and less distinctive than the aroma, mild spiciness, cinnamon, clove, ginger, all spice are present, then some lighter pumpkin like vegetal qualities. Baltic porter profile is noticeable in the malt, but the finish is a bit harsh from the spices.

Mouthfeel is a bit dry on the tongue from the spiciness, thought the spice level seems subdued in flavor.

Overall, an interesting take on the blended style, it really hides the abv well from the spice and porter qualities but the flavor and finish aren't to my preference.

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Photo of bgillespie
3.43/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass.

Appearance: A pitch black that pours a tan head, not much retention.

Smell: A lot of roasted malt, maybe some chocolate. No pumpkin?

Taste: It taste like an ordinary porter, malty, cocoa, maybe a hint of nutmeg. But almost no pumpkin flavor.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, moderate carbonation.

Overall: It taste like a regular porter, but I do not get much of the pumkpin or spice flavor. It taste good, just not what is adverstised.

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Photo of TruePerception
3.46/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

He Said Dark, Baltic-style Porter brewed with pumpkin and spice. 8.2% ABV.

Appearance: Okay! Almost spilled over. About 2 fingers of slightly brown head. The beer is black, with hue of brownish-red when held up to the light just so.

Smell: Nice roasted malt on the nose. A slight pumpkin spice, and even less actual pumpkin.

Taste/Mouthfeel: It has a very smooth texture on the palate. A good amount of roasted malt, bordering on coffee. A very subtle hint of pumpkin.

Overall: While fairly good on it's own, I don't think it stands up so well as a pumpkin ale (er, lager). Oh well...

12 oz. can, poured into a pint glass.

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Photo of stevoj
3.46/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

tastes like a big old pumpkin muffin, bready and winter spice. Some of the porter roast grains shine through, and a hint of alcohol warmth make this a nice fall/winter quaff. Dark bodied in color, medium weight mouth feel, fairly slick and oily. Small beige head caps this off.

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Photo of Huffs
3.47/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a sam adams glass, nice head, tan, developed with good retention and lacing. Appearance was almost black in color. Aroma had notes of pine, chocolate, coffee, spice and pumpkin. Tasted of coffee and spice, strong spice, with a bite up front. Strong spice notes of of cinnamon, allspice and cardamom. Mouthfeel was medium to full with a dry and bitter aftertaste.

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Photo of mfnmbvp
3.48/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 fl oz. can, canned on 09/02/2015. My second of the two pumpkin brews from 21st Amendment. "Lager brewed with pumpkin and spices".

Poured into a Duvel tulip glass.

A - Pours a black cola colored body, thinner, and more watery in appearance than a stout. 4 big fluffy fingers of bubbly chocolate cream head. Good fat fluffy strands of lacing.

S - More cola in the nose: spicing is apparent, but nothing too distinct. Notes of chocolate, herbs, and spice rack. No over pumpkin / gourd, or even cinnamon for that matter. 'Cola' is the best descriptor I can conjure. Maybe some very mild notes of pie crust / diacetyl when I really look for it.

T - Taste follows the nose: a thin, slightly watery cola flavored brew. Spices are apparent, but again indistinct. No cinnamon, thyme, or allspice stands out, but doubtless they are in there. Mild notes of peppery spice on the finish.

M - Feel is thin & watery, for the style and the abv. Mild lingering notes of chocolate & spices. Medium-bodied with crisp carb. Almost a bit of peppery chile spice finish.

Overall, not quite doing it for me. This one misses the mark, in my honest opinion. Not terrible, but definitely not enough pumpkin going on here to keep things interesting, and a bit too much cola spicing on this one.

21st Amendment He Said (Baltic-Style Porter) -----3.5/5

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Photo of MMOSNN
3.48/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Look - pitch black with a giant creamy tan head and very little lacing.

Smell - roasted malts, pumpkin, chocolate, some smoke, maybe nutmeg. It took awhile to identify these aromas since the smell overall is quite subtle and a little odd.

Taste - chocolaty malts, pumpkin, that nutmeg spiciness, and ends with some notes of vanilla.

Feel - good carbonation, the mouthfeel is somewhat chewy, but ends pretty thin.

Overall, I appreciate this unique take on the style, but the aroma is a little off-putting, and I would like a thicker body to it. The pumpkin is definitely present, but I don't know if it really fits this style.

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Photo of angrybabboon
3.49/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for giving me a can of this

Consumed 11/28/13

Appearance: Surprisingly, remarkably dark, borderline jet black - pours with a creamy, fluffy, light tan head - impressive, solid head retention and leaves some lovely blobs of lacing

Smell: Chocolate, cocoa, and some pumpkin spices - nice range of chocolate, including burnt chocolate malts, baker's chocolate, semisweet chocolate, and cocoa - some pumpkin spices, like cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger, but they are somewhat overpowered by the burnt/roasty aromas - some burnt squash, pumpkin - some earthy aromas

Taste: It's like someone attempted to make a chocolate pumpkin loaf, burnt it, and then threw it into a pile of dirt - earthy, dirty, burnt chocolate - more chocolate malts than anticipated from the aroma, and a little less cocoa - decidedly burnt, and very earthy - some pumpkin, as well as some cooked squash - some malty sweetness and caramel - straight-up sugary sweetness - pumpkin pie spices are definitely here as well, with some cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, and clove

Mouthfeel: Medium-ish body, nicely carbonated, smooth, kind of oily and sticky in the finish while simultaneously being dry

Overall: Baltic Porter + pumpkin + great brewery + great brewery = slightly better than meh?

Well, this is definitely better than the other He Said (Tripel). But I do have some issues. It's overly earthy and borderline dirty. And there is an odd amount of sweetness. Overall, after having reviewed the He Said Tripel a few hours ago, I am reaching the conclusion that while 21st Amendment and Elysian are great breweries on an individual level, they do not produce magic when collaborating. Sorry.

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Photo of frasergrove
3.49/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

L: dark, quickly fading head

S: mild dark sugar sweetness mixed with some spice, notes of cardamom

T: some spicy notes, malty and toasty notes, not super complex

F: muted bitterness, spice dominates

O: interesting beer, good, not great

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Photo of morimech
3.5/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appears black in the glass with two fingers of head that slowly settles to a thick cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left down the glass.

Aroma is a mixture of Baltic Porter and pumpkin pie spice. Nice dark malt aroma with compliments of nutmeg and cinnamon.

Flavor is a bit overpowered by the spice. The spice even feels a little hot. Not much for pumpkin but I am not disappointed in that. I think there is some nice malt flavor underneath the spice but cannot say for sure.

Has a Baltic Porter body and not a pumpkin beer body which scores points with me. Nicely carbonated.

If I read the label better and saw the word pumpkin, I never would of bought the He Said four pack. Turns out to be a better than average beer that is just too heavy handed with the spice.

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