Allies Win The War! | 21st Amendment Brewery

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Allies Win The War!Allies Win The War!

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21st Amendment Brewery
California, United States

Style: English Strong Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Winter

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Added by t0rin0 on 05-12-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.49/5  rDev -34.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured into a snifter on 2/20/12

Dull, medium brown settles with a hint of rust and sun-drenched ruby when held to the light. One finger head thins rapidly to a patch of bubbles, though the start of good lace remains.

Goodness, the dates walk all over the aroma - they're musty, earthy and have hints of something like mushrooms. It smells alternately dirty and soapy. Some other crowded aromas are herbal hops, soap, air freshener, dirt, prune, raisins, tasted bread and mild notes of burnt sugars. Some suggestions of caramel, toffee, tangy roast and leather.

Tastes ok. Toasted sugars - brown sugar, caramel and maybe faint molasses. Hints of burnt coffee buried deep down. Maybe even a pinch of cocoa powder? The dates come through strong here, too - it's a dry, vapid, musty earth and nut flavor. Tangy overtones. Beyond that, it isn't very complex.

The feel tries to be medium but misses the mark at best; the edges are especially thin and watery. Carbonation is a bit high, but I don't mind it so much as it detracts from the taste of the beer. Is the finish as musty as the rest of it? Oh yeah.

It started off unpleasant while cold. After it warms up some, it's tolerable. I'll tally that in the "win" column for 21st Amendment. Would I buy another one? No. Will I finish this glass? Yes.

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Photo of adamette
2.65/5  rDev -30.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Purchased at World Wines & Liquor in Mentor a long while ago as a part of an interesting looking four pack in a box covered in newspaper print, I poured the contents of this can into a clean, clear glass. "Canned on" date of 10/26/11 stamped on the bottom of the can.

A Translucent dark body that glows mahogany in front of direct light under a light brown creamy smooth head that clings nicely to the inside of the glass.

S Medium malt, dark fruit and, yes, dates (can mentions that it is brewed with dates) rise up from the creamy head.

T Strong dark fruit presence in this one with a not so well hidden alcohol content and a bite of bitter hops near the end on the back of my tongue which is not all that pleasing.

M A bit harsh as suggested in my taste notes. It is possibly to style but it is off-putting to me.

D Not all that high. I would reach for other less harsh beers than this. I admit this is not my favorite style.

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Photo of BB1313
3.05/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

12oz can poured into a standard pint glass. Pours a hazy, cloudy auburn with a nice fluffy head and sticky lacing. Nice looking brew. The aromas are hoppy, but very faint. I wish they'd dial it up a bit. And that goes for the flavors too. They're just very subtle. Dark fruits in the mix. There's also a slight woodsiness from this one along with some subtle pine. Lots of caramel and malts going on too. Mouthfeel is very nice and creamy; well carbonated. I personally had a hard time picking up on the dates used in the brewing process.

This beer is fine, but it's lacking alot and is simply not memorable.

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Photo of Cellach
3.06/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a can into a stemless red wine glass. Clear garnet in appearance, with an off-white head suggesting substantial maltiness. The nose does offer plenty of toffee and rich caramel, with something vaguely fruity. Prune and persimmon, perhaps. So far nothing suggestive of dates. To me, the palate is generically fruity, malty, and boring. I detect something very faint that might be reminiscent of dates... or maybe that's just my imagination. There are layers of dark, fruity malts, and not much else.

I would call this beer a morphological failure. The dates really get lost in the layers of maltiness. The beer is flabby, without balance or any clear stylistic direction. Thank goodness this is an exception for the otherwise stellar 21st Amendment crew.

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Photo of jzeilinger
3.11/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark burgundy/garnet color with a thin, but even and lasting off white creamy layer of foam, with no carbonation.

S - Aroma is anemic for a beer this big. All the nuances are very delicate: pine, grapefruit citrus, and carmelized toasted malt. I would have expected a more aggressive nose from this beer

T - Delicate. Light citrus grapefruit, pine, lightly toasted caramel, slightly fruity (in the form of apples) and mild alcohol effervescence. Sweetness is mild and the balance between the bittering hops and malts is evenly balanced.

M - Way too thin, light medium to heavy light body and some watery character.

O - Meh. There's other Strong Ales out there that are more enjoyable. On the positive side, it's the only strong ale I know of in a can which makes it attractive.

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Photo of popery
3.11/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This beer is a mishmash, and the fruit and hops clash for me. I'm disappointed but not surprised. It's another big collaboration beer with seemingly random ingredients and one with relatively strong sweetness, fruit and hops. The dates come through with a fairly muddled fruitiness and a good deal of sugar. The hops are pretty good in the aroma, lending some fresh, euro-ish flavors, but they just come across as bland bitterness in the taste. Conversely, the fruit and malt hurt the aroma, giving a sorta cheap and sticky note, but do pretty well in the taste. I just wish that this beer had focused on one or the other. The appearance and mouthfeel are both good. It's a garnet-ruby colored beer with a foamy, beige head. Mouthfeel is a bit slick and mildly sharp. I'm hardly going to drain pour this one, but it's another lame duck collaboration with flavors that simply aren't complementary.

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Photo of russwbeck
3.13/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: Viscous brown pour with about two fingers of light brown head. It looks like a thick beer, but some bubbles make their way through it.

S: The dates (or, at least, some dark fruits) dominate the aroma not unlike a quad. Roasted and caramel malts provide the base. Both overcome any booze and make this a really sweet smelling beer.

T: The taste continues the sweet theme. Dark fruits, and malts, as in the aroma, dominate the taste. The balance is pretty nice, while the sweetness is at the forefront it isn't offensive at all. The finish is roasty.

MF: Not nearly as thick a body as I was expecting, it actually hinted towards watery at some points. Lower amount of carbonation than I would have expected from the pour as well.

O: This was pretty average. I don't know what I expected from a strong ale brewed with dates, but I guess I was hoping for a bit more. I think the body hasn't held up all that well, and maybe the next batch will be a but fuller.

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Photo of mgironta
3.15/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This brew poured a deep, clear mahogany color with lots of active carbonation. The head was about half a finger and pure white. It dissipated pretty quickly and left no lacing on the glass. The nose was definitely not what I expected. At first, I got some earthy hops, which then followed up with some dates and toffee. The taste was definitely not as good as the nose. The taste starts with the toffee sweetness that I picked up in the nose, but then the hops come pretty abruptly. I also got a bit of toasted malts and raisins. The brew was a little over carbonated and the booze was pretty apparent in the finish that was thankfully quick. I tend to like the brews from 21st Amendment, but unfortunately, this was not one of them. I was surprised how much I disliked this one…almost a drain pour. I wouldn’t have this again.

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Photo of ccrida
3.15/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

On draught at Monteaux's, served in a Leffe glass, this brew is mahogany with a tan head leaving decent lace.

Smell is pretty hoppy, earthy continentals, a little diacetyl, some cotton candy as well.

Taste is malty, some caramel and butterscotch, with a firm bitterness.

Mouthfeel is dry, slick, dusty hop oils. Sticky.

Drinkability is ok, it's a bit of a mish-mash. Hoppy, but euros. Stronger, but not quite into slow sipper territory. More like a bad spin on Ninkasi's Believer.

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Photo of hyprlt
3.18/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into frosted fishbowl.

Head was slightly beige and creamy. Dispersed after a few minutes but a slight head remained. Lacing evident.

Hop aroma, still learning hop aromas, is similar to the hop type in Ranger IPA.

Not as bitter as other 21st beers. Slight sweetness from dates. Easy drinking.

Light viscosity, feels like it should be a bit thicker.

I like it.

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Photo of Hojaminbag
3.18/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Allies Win the War has a clear, brownish red body and a massive tan head. The head is rocky and thick, and it begins to lace my glass immediately with good looking lacing.

The aroma mixes fruity hops, a touch of alcohol, bread, chocolate, and dark fruits including figs. The resulting combination is fairly nice.

Although Allies Win the War tastes fine, it is no where near as good as the aroma suggested. The flavor is very weak. A little bit of alcohol and touches of dark fruit mixes with a slight hop bitterness. Notes of bread and chocolate come through as well. The finish is downright bland and watery, which is the biggest disappointment of all.

Fairly light body, with an almost watery feel to it.

For how good Allies Win the War smells and looks, it's a let down. There is nothing bad about it, but considering the amount of flavor most other beers pack into 8.5% ABV, this one is strangely simplistic.

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Photo of beertunes
3.18/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in tulip. Poured a nice brown, with reddish highlights, but had just a thin ring of head of head that had no retention or lacing. The aroma was malt-dominant, just a hint of hops, and also featured a bit of spiciness in the background.

The flavors were what the aroma had lead me to expect, very even and balanced grains with a touch of hops. There was however, just a hint of an off-tasting funk in the background. The body was very nice, full without being heavy, smooth even and very companionable, but the finish was just a wee bit sticky.

Drinkability was very good, perhaps dangerously so, I'm going to have some more while it's still on tap. Overall, I found the beer a bit lacking in personality, but still very pleasant and enjoyable. Worth your time when you see it.

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Photo of AgentMunky
3.19/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle that says "Second Special Release: Allies Win The War!" Brewed and bottled by Ninkasi, but it seems like it's probably the same beer?

A: Light head swims atop a clear maple beer.

S: Sweet fruit, bland malt, not much else. Lightly spicy.

T: Sweet fruit, bland malt, not much else. Lightly spicy....

O: Underwhelming, but not unpleasant. Not recommended.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.21/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to huadog for this one. 12oz. can poured into a pint glass. Shared with schen9303.

Pours a 1 finger fluffy, off-white head with good retention. Beer is a clear, copper red. Lacing is stringy and sparse with little cling. Very solid.

Nose is tree sap, beet juice, strawberry, and maybe unripened sweet potato. Subtle and pretty strange. Not bad though.

Opens tea leaves, sweet tree sap, and dried autumn foliage. Yam skin and more tea towards the middle. Hop bitterness and grainy brown sugar at the end. Finish is hoppy with a harsh toffee sweetness in the aftertaste. A bit weird but again, decent.

Light to medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Prickly and coarse in the mouth and harsh and lively going down. Messy finish with a sticky aftertaste. Could use some smoothing out here.

Overall not a bad beer but because of the awkward flavor profile present here, not one I would revisit. Worthing try though as its very different from what one would consider the norm.

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Photo of BigPlay1824
3.23/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Enjoyed in a pint glass

A: pours a clear brown with a slight amber hue and some carbonation bubbles, pours with a little under a finger of creamy very light tan head that actually seems to have a bit of a greyish hue, leaves a ton of thin lacing on the glass
S: dark fruits and a slight sweetness
T: nice malt character and an interesting dark fruit note which i would imagine is from the dates (ive never even seen a date before) nice taste with some complexity, leaves a lingering aftertaste of dark fruits
M: thin with medium carbonation, leaves the mouth feeling slightly dry
O: a decent beer at best, nothing really stood out to me, not their best offering

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Photo of spartanfan
3.27/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Canned on 10/26/2011

A: Pours a deep, clear ruby color with a finger of thick light tan colored head. Leaves spotty waves of lacing behind.

S: Not a whole lot of smell, but sweetnes with a faint hint hint of brown sugar.

T: Sweet taste of dates right off the bat, followed with more malty sweetness. Long lingering bitterness sticks around for a while. Perhaps a hint of alcohol on the finish, but not too much.

M: Medium mouthfeel, with a bit too much carbonation for my liking. Alcohol is masked well.

O: This beer is the hoppiest example of the style I have tried so far. Paired with the dates it makes for an intresting, enjoyable beer.

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Photo of BARFLYB
3.31/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz can into a pint glass.

This one has a shade of dark brown with red woven in and some darker orange when uto the light. A nice firm cream/tan clored two fingaz of foam on top with good retention, yet no stick. Smell is all in the malt department. English malt, toffee driven, with some werthers and dark fruit fig, plum, sliced apple. Some musky hop aroma as well. The alcohol blends in nice with the malt leaving this not as hot as it probably could be. Toffee, werther original taste, The fig blends in but I cant say im all that welcoming towards it. Feel is nicely carbed up, yet the thickish body thwarts that a bit leaving this smoother going down. The body is a healthy medium, no heat from the alcohol. I think this is a decent for the style, in fact tastier, than most in the style, but the name is pretty stupid.

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Photo of Philousa
3.33/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a New Belgium goblet, sits a dark caramel/molasses color with thin head. The small bubbles cling and lace the glass well with each sip. Dark caramel malt hits the nose first, followd by spicy, floral hops and wheat bread. Coppery amber malt flavor starts things off, followed by slightly sweet bread, bitter fresh hop oil, and a tart bready flavor at the end. This one is a bit thin with a dry finish.

This is strongly reminiscent of Ninkasi's Believer Double Red Ale, and that kind of annoys me. It's a limited edition four pack and I would like to get some complexities in something like that. I was looking forward to some date flavor, but I couldn't get past the hops and coppery base malt. Even though this was mislabeled on BA (this much hop flavor does not come in an English ale) and I feel a bit cheated on the four pack, this is a solid, if uncomplicated beer. I really like the yeast they used and the amount of hops are great in the nose. I just feel that some other fruit or complex coffee like flavors would have complimented this brew a little better.

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Photo of kennylopez
3.37/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

poured from a 12oz can into a mini snifter.

appearance: a dark reddish amber with minimal head and spots of lacing

smells: a sweet dark fruit and a mild alcohol note.

tastes: it has a real pine like hop that is enjoyably bitter and well balanced.

mouthfeel: the 8.5% is mild on the burn and very refreshing. and the subtle carbonation is great compared to the head.

overall: I enjoy this ale. the price is great and the packaging is awesome. I will buy more if I see it, and recommend you do the same if you care enough to read this.

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Photo of stercomm
3.38/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz can, as usual great graphics on the can.

A - Medium mahogany in color, very clear, nice short off-white head, good lacing on glass.

S - Get a nose of citrusy and herbal hops, some candied malts.

T - Lots of hops, citrus like on the front end and oily, mid taste start to get some malt and biscuit, maybe some rasins, finishes with the date taste being evident.

M - Medium bodied, creamy, medium carbonation.

O - I'm good with just one of these at a time, lots of hops action

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.4/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz can... poured into my Delerium goblet... short lasting tannish head... the brew is deeep beautiful amber...

Nose is mainly brown malts and a little bit of date sugar.. some pithy grapefruit hoppiness.. okay... not great... not sure what I was hoping for... but it was definitely more than what was delivered.

Flavor shows quite a bit of toasty/brown malt.. good hoppiness from the middle to the finish.. the hops are sorta citrus/tangerine zest.. a little spice shows toward the finish.. odd, but not off-putting earthy note that I suspect is from the dates.

Medium/big body... but nice carbonation.

Okay... glad I got to try it, but this is only a decent brew that I doubt I will ever buy another... too many other better brews out there.


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Photo of jera1350
3.4/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Amber in color with a thin layer of foam on top.

The smell is pretty one dimensional. Lightly sweet malt and a touch of a metallic smell.

The flavor reminds me more of a red ale than a strong ale. Light sweetness from the malt, a touch of hops. Just not a whole lot going on. A bit bland maybe even?

Some harsh carbonation otherwise the feel is fine.

Honestly, not a bad beer, but just really does nothing for me. Pretty boring in my opinion.

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Photo of ColdPoncho
3.41/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Canned on 10/26/11

A - A very pretty deep ruby body with a nice fluffy light tan head. A great looking beer.

S - Caramel malts, some citrus and pine of hops. Relatively perfumey.

T - Bitter and caramel, dried fruits, kind of astringent. Not that good. I don't know this style, but I have a feeling that this is a bit off. quite harsh and oddly floral.

M - decent body, smooth, and fairly full.

O - weird beer. Some fairly offensive elements.

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Photo of zaphodchak
3.42/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Half finger tan head. Laces decently. Ruby body.

Nose is deeply malty with some English hops. Faintly boozy.

Taste has some tang at the beginning and end, hoppy and bitter. I could categorize this as an American barleywine. There's some wood on the aftertaste. I taste pretty much no dates.

Mouthfeel is nice and smooth.

I kinda regret buying four, and for these reasons: the hopping is consistent with American beers (which this is) not English (which is purports to be), the dates with which it was brewed are non-evident, and since it's canned, I feel really apprehensive about cellaring it. Maybe worth a shot anyway.

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Photo of Levich
3.42/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a can into a pint glass producing a rich brown liquid which had a nice deep ruby red when held up to the light. The ecru head dissipated like a deflating marshmallow, leaving only a thin film on top with lacing on the glass.

Aroma was noticeable as soon as the can was opened. There's a nice balance between caramel smelling malts and fruity ester scents.

The first sip revealed chocolate and caramel malt flavors and just a hint of hops for balance. There is an off taste at the back end, like a parrafin dipped metal. I am not sure if that is a result of the can or just the beer itself. However, it is definitely not gross, just a hint.

The mouthfeel is moderately rich and syrupy with just a little carbonation.

Over this beer is decent. I am glad to have tried it. I can see myself buying it again (if I can find it in bottles or on tap), but I would not run out and stock up on it right away.

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