Fantôme BBB Dark White
Brasserie Fantôme

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Style:
Belgian Saison
Ranked #535
ABV:
4%
Score:
89
Ranked #9,055
Avg:
3.96 | pDev: 11.36%
Reviews:
157
Ratings:
287
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Photo of output01x
4.42/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750 mL. corked and capped bottle (Best Before October 2013) into a tulip glass.

An aggressive pour yields a 2-finger cream-colored head that slowly recedes after a few minutes to a thin dusting and thick foam ring. The body is a translucent amber brown with a decent amount of slow-rising carbonation bubbles. Great lacing can be seen clinging to the sides of the glass between sips but does not seem strong enough to hold itself up.

As the beer is poured, a strong musty aroma is spread into the air. It is reminiscent of an old basement or a wet dog. Getting closer to the beer finds this same odor overlying a complex fruity and slightly sour cacophony of aromas. Notes of white wine vinegar, sour grapes, green apples, and pear are all apparent.

Sweet and sour fruit flavors strike the tongue at the beginning of each sip with notes of sour grapes, green apples, and plums. Swallowing the beer releases even more sourness to the delight of one's taste buds. A funky, slightly musty horse blanket-like flavor finds a temporary home on the roof of the mouth. The flavors of grapes and apples become even more prevalent and last for a good duration. However, as they fade, a fleshy pear flavor lingers on the tongue as the sour acidity from before continues stinging away.

The medium body really allows all the flavors to not only present themselves but also for them to be analyzed and dissected. Never does the body become sticky or coating which creates great drinkability. The carbonation only becomes slightly fizzy as the beer is swallowed, allowing the flavors to sparkle. This also gives this beer a very crisp mouthfeel. A white wine like dryness comes in at the end of each sip that pulls the drinker back for more after each sip.

Overall, the look, smell, taste, and mouthfeel of this beer are fantastic. The nose is strong and complex, offering the consumer a great way to pass the time between sips. The taste is just as complex as the nose. The sourness and funk may not be truly lip-puckering but should be enough to satisfy most sour fans.

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Photo of SHODriver
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured into a Duvel tulip to a deep gold topped by a dense finger and a half of rocky off white head which fades slowly to a collar around the edge of the glass with minimal lacing.
S: Smells of orchard fruits and honey with some grassy hops and light spice
T: Taste is slightly funky but a lot of orchard fruits with some peppery bite. Slight funk but good grassy note with some additional spice. Very light honey sweetness at times as well. On the swallow this beer is more orchard fruits, peppery spice notes, grassyness, and light chalky yeast.
M: This beer has a body which is on the lighter side of medium with a slightly slick feel on the palate. Carbonation is effervescent and just slightly prickly while the beer has a drying finish.
O: Overall this is an interesting beer. I expected something a little lighter but this one is a really beautiful shade of gold. Really nice complexity and flavor on this one which makes it a joy to drink. Definitely light on the funk which is nice since some of their beers have a little too much band aid flavor for my preference. Worth a try if you like the style.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.14/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.25

One of my favourite styles, and the best brewer of that style as far as I'm concerned. I always love the label art on Fantome's bottles. 1 pint 9.4 fl oz green glass (ugh..) bottle with pry-off cap sealed over an internally-housed branded cork served into a Mitchells of Lancaster flared stem-tulip in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Acquired at a local SoCal bottle shop. Expectations are through the roof. Label identifies it as a saison, so that's what I'm reviewing it as. The label doesn't corroborate the ABV. Imported by the Shelton Bastards. "Belgian Ale Brewed with Spices."

My label just says "Dark White." There's no "BBB" in the lower left corner like I see on google images.

Served cold, straight from the fridge, and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Cork yields a satisfying pop upon removal. Liquid does start slowly surging upwards, but it's not a gusher or anything.

A: Pours a three finger wide head of nice healthy light khaki colour. Nice smooth soft complexion. Nice thickness. Decent creaminess. Somewhat frothy. Retention is excellent; seemingly indefinite but probably a good 15 minutes - though I'm not waiting to find out. No real lacing as the head ever so slowly recedes. Fluffy and appealing overall.

Body colour is a glowing nontransparent peach. No yeast particles are visible, but it's too murky and hazy to see them anyway. No bubble show. Pretty decent vibrance, though it is a bit understated.

Overall, it's looking pretty standard for a saison with the exception of the remarkable head retention. I'm excited to try it, but other Fantome saisons have looked better.

Sm: Heavy biscuity yeast character, with subtle clove, vitamins, and bready doughy notes. This beer screams that it's alive and kicking. Wow. Some bretty funk here, but not as much as in other saisons.

I get some subtle well integrated spicing, but as always with Fantome it's so well executed that each individual spice is difficult to isolate. White pepper. Some very light citrus twang.

Earthy. Grainy malts. Bready malts. Biscuit malt. Grassy. Clean overall.

I'm not getting any of the fruity notes some other reviewers are describing. Doughy yeast is by far the dominant note here.

No alcohol is detectable. A pungent aroma of moderate to pretty strong intensity.

T: Bready and doughy as hell. Light bretts lend a bit of funkiness. Lightly earthy. Not getting any fruits. Light indistinct spices; I find clove and white pepper.

I'm a bit concerned about the quality control with this bottle; it definitely seems a bit off. Rather bland and narrow-noted for a Fantome beer.

Bready malts, graininess, light grassiness. Hay. Any hop character is minimal in presence and floral in character.

Dough is dominant. It's shockingly simple and boring considering the brewery. Something's wrong here; I think it's lightly infected perhaps? I've never experienced infection in a beer. This isn't offensive or foul; it just seems off on a basic level.

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As it warms, I do get hints of fruit after all. Apple, cidery notes, and maybe fig. The white pepper also comes through a bit more. Apple pie. Nutmeg.

Touches of citrus rind on the finish.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Nice thickness. Good carbonation. Not oily, harsh, or biting. Suits the style well, but doesn't feel custom-tailored to the flavour profile. Somewhat acidic.

Dr/O: Kind of a dud from Fantome, but I do think I just got an off bottle. At around $16 USD a bottle, that's frustrating. I've never had quality issues with Fantome until now. I'd like to revisit a good bottle of this, but I won't be shelling out my own money to do so. Really disappointed, but it's not undrinkable - just a bit boring and bland. I'll happily finish the bottle, but I really wanted and expected more from Fantome. Comes off a bit like a homebrew saison in its muddled unfocused character. Alcohol is well hidden, though.

Served chilled but not cold and allow to come to room temperature.

C+

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Photo of zeff80
4.2/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a cloudy, orange color with a three-finger, tan head of bubbly foam. It left sudsy rings of lace and tons of sediment in the glass.

S - It smelled funky and phenolic with some spicy notes.

T - It tasted very tart and acidic. It had a nice spicy bitterness with a funky bite.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a dry, clean finish.

O - This is a really good saison. I love the touch of tartness and acidic bite.

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Photo of rand
4.17/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

From 750 mL bottle to Mikasa tulip glass

A: The brew appears a color somewhere between apricot and leather, opaque and forms a frothy, cavernous 2-inch head. Patchy lacing is everywhere.

S: Horse-blanket, barnyard funk, right up front, typical of Fantome. Smoky, woody. Grassy snap lingers at the edge of the bouquet, with a smidge of alcohol.

T: Layered and complex, the smokey, funky aspects hold subtle notes of unripe fruit and dry grass. Malty sweetness just barely pushes back strong tones of smoke and leather. A distinct hop snap dries the palate , leading to short, dry finish.

M: Medium-to-full bodies, but ample carbonation adds levity.

Fantome and Jolly Pumpkin are my go-to breweries when I feel like I've drank too many beers. Off-centered style that almost always work.

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Photo of Ikhoudvanbier
4.21/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle has been stored for a year or two. Poured into a tulip. The foamy head is very dense. Copper/orange in color. Mouthfeel is creamy and smooth until the end of the sip when a sharp, flowery hop bitterness kicks in. This pleasant bitterness lingers on the palate. Almost citrus effervescence. Carbonation has kept well. Sticky malt character on the roof of the mouth more apparent after several sips. The 8% ABV sneaks up on you with this one too. The malt character and the appearance are my favorite aspects of this beer. Definitely a well built saison with a few unique elements. There are probably very few bottles of this still out there. Glad I got to try it!

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Photo of nickfl
4.51/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Forms a very large, slightly off white head that settles down pretty quickly and leaves good lace on the glass. Rosy orangeish color and moderately hazy, really an extraordinary color when you take the time to appreciate it.

S - Noticeable acidity. Smells of rasins, figs and chocolate.

T - Tart and fruity. Nice hop character to balance the sweetness. Flavor is similar to the smell, but when you give it a few moments to finish there is a subtle tingling of pepper on the tongue.

M - Fairly thick body with moderate carbonation

D - At first this beer struck me as a relatively straight foreward saison, but when the spice hits in the finish it totally transforms the beer. I can't belive how satisfying the heat in this beer is. Truely a beautifull brew.

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Photo of Budlum
4.07/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of jrob21
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of 51mmz0rz
3.88/5  rDev -2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 750mL bottle into a tall Adnams glass.

A: Wonderful cloudy golden color, with a big pillowy off-whitehead. Head stays for awhile, lacing is excellent down the side of the glass. Tasty.

S: The smell is of citrus (grapefruit mostly), and powerful. Yeast in the background as well, and there is a slight sour smell.

T: I was expecting much bigger flavor. Its a slightly fruity, sour beer. I don't hate the flavor, I just wish there was more to it.

M: Watery, doesn't feel like there is anything in the beer.

D: Honesty, with such mild flavor it is pretty easy to drink. I can't believe the abv on this, its very very well hidden.

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Photo of number1bum
3.91/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Many thanks to mymrnngjckt for this treat.

Pours a light amber, slightly orange color, good clarity and a fizzy but creamy two inches of light tan head. Keeps a very nice, full lace and leaves a little stick here and there, too.

Smell is initially spicy and yeasty, but overall I'd describe it as musty. Even the spices lend a musty sort of aroma, so I can't figure out what they are. Maybe I'd call it herbal, as well, and the only spice that really seems distinct is pepper. Really pretty strange and funky, but interesting.

Taste is also spicy, musty and herbal. Big pepper flavor, especially, along with some yeast and funk that again are best described as herbal and musty. There is some fruity flavor and a hint of malt sweetness, as well, both of which I didn't really find in the nose. That balances out the spice and generall mustiness. Pretty complex and quite different.

Based on some of the other reviews it seems that maybe the abv is not listed correctly here, and maybe it's much lower. You wouldn't know it based on the way it drinks, even the mouthfeel is a pretty solid medium body.

This is certainly a different saison than I have experienced before. One of the more interesting brews I've had in awhile. Very peppery and very musty. Not too shabby at all.

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Photo of BretSikkink
4.18/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Fantome strikes again...hazy golden-brown, fantastic head and amazing lacing. Retention isn't as good as I've seen, but everything is so spot on. The aroma is a blast of peppery yeast, quite decent but a little mysterious.

The flavor bears out the nose in a big way. Huge peppery flavor dominates start to aftertaste, there's the characteristic saison smoothness, good rich mouthfeel. It's a hair thin for my personal pleasure, I think the wheat keeps the body down a little. There's some crisp carbonation, and a nice tart character in the middle that keeps things from tipping too hard to one side.

Never had a Fantome saison that was less than complex, unique, interesting, and terrific. This one is a bit heavy on the pepper flavor but it's very charming and ridiculously drinkable (as always).

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Photo of ccrida
3.85/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my large Gulden Draak tulip, BBB Dark White is auburnish burnt gold with a very large, fluffy white head that has long last that leaves big chunks of rocky foam.

Smell is pretty classic Fantôme fruity esters, not overly strong but wonderful just the same.

Taste is dry, very big mineral character, slate, a bit chalky, with a hint of peppery spicy brett funk, with a bitter, lingering finish. A ghostly wisper of fruit esters lurks in the background, but they're really subtle, and this one is all about that bitter, peppery brett.

Mouthfeel is bone dry, light bodied.

Drinkability is ok, it's very quaffable, refreshing old school saison, and would aptly slake a thirst during a long day of working in the hot sun. On the other hand, it's pretty expensive, and fairly one dimensional, and not something I'd probably every bother with buying again.

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Photo of prototypic
4.15/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark White, interestingly enough, pours a dark copper color. It's moderately hazy, but penetrating light gives it a bit of a crimson look. An active white head covers the top. It stands about two fingers tall before falling to a surface covering quickly. Lacing was definitely light.

The nose is good, but could use just a little more strength. It kicks off with a nice blend of herbs and spices. It's very earthy and a little grassy smelling. There's also a nice musky scent, but nothing funky. Pepper is very strong in the mix. There are subtle notes of dark fruit and tart cherry. They're very subdued, but add something positive overall. A little Belgian yeast is noted, but not much. More would be better. Alcohol is not noticeable at all. No big surprise there.

The flavor is good. There's actually a surprising amount of flavor for a 4% abv beer. It is very earthy, herbal, and musky. Those themes are consistent throughout. Pepper is the primary spice. It's not as strong in flavor, but it's very noticeable. Perhaps there are others, but I can't identify them. Secondary flavors include subtle tart cherry, grapes, and a tad bit of fig. In tandem, they add a lot to the flavor. Belgian yeast is more notable in flavor, but I'd still prefer a little more. Alcohol is completely buried. I'm not getting any. Finishes with earthy and spices notes.

Dark White has a light body that leans medium. Carbonation is active, but it's very plush and smooth for a beer of its stature. Classic Belgian mouthfeel. Very impressive. Drinkability is very high. Dark White is tasty stuff and goes down incredibly easy. I'll have no trouble polishing off this 750. Did I mention the abv was 4%?

Brasserie Fantôme has a legendary reputation for its Fantôme Saison. While Dark White isn't quite that good, it's pretty damn impressive. I was a little skeptical about how much flavor it'd have, but it delivers in a rather big way. It's not perfect. I'd like more Belgian yeast and maybe a little less pepper. Nonetheless, this is impressive stuff. Definitely worth checking out.

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Photo of Georgiabeer
4.3/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours cloudy light amber with a decent head that fades to a ring and leaves very little lacing. The smell is mostly lemon citrus with a touch of white pepper and perhaps a touch of coriander. A little light but fairly complex. The taste is even more complex, with that same hit of lemon and a big whallop of pepper. Its like they replaced the hops with white pepper here! Very unusual and delicious. In addition, there are some other creamy and spicy flavors that are hard to pin down (My wife says its Frankincense, nut I'm not sure what that tastes like). Mouthfeel is quite creamy and spicy while still being refreshing. As all of the Fantome Saisons are, this is quite drinkable. I start craving Saisions as soon as the weather turns warm. This one is explosive enough to pair nicely with food or drink in warmer weather as well, and quite unusual. This brewery should be a world heritage site along with Cantillon.

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Photo of Icehouse57
4.42/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On my first glass, I poured gently, expecting a saison-like head to develop and lots of carbonation.

It was a bit of a struggle to get a decent head on the beer to be honest. This is pretty much the only flaw I found in the beer, was the lack of carbonation. Maybe the cork didn't seat properly... I don't know. It just wasn't enough carbonation for me.

So, now to the rest of it.

Poured a brilliant clear tawny brown color. Almost amber... but not quite. Beautiful. Not much head though....

Smelled like wet hay, apple, juicy fruit gum. A hint of brett funk in the nose, but not overwhelming.

Interesting.... extremely well balanced and complex for such a low ABV beer. Acid kept building throughout each drink. Tasted just a smidge of wet-horse blanket.... straw....apple. A peppery kick right at the tail end... Very, very nice. Would have been made a little sharper by more carbonation.

Mouthfeel was a little thin.

Very nice beer. I wouldn't rate it all 5s though.... I've had better... but this is a nice, different saison!

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Photo of tpd975
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to fishingnet for this one.

A: It pours a hazy, orangish amber hue, with a nice bold three finger head. Nice retention and some lace. Nice steady stream of bubbles rise for the duration.

S: Nice sweet fruits like apple and apricot with a blast of funk. This one has a nice tart character that makes it extra nice.

T: The malt really comes out in a nice sweet way. Very fruity with a nice deal of tart green apple and sweet peachy/apricot. There is a touch of spice but a hint of acidic sourness is what puts this one over the top.

M: Medium in body fairly sparkling with a somewhat dry finish. I like it.

D: I like a touch of funk in my beer and this one has it. Combine the sweet malt and splash of both bitter and sweet fruit, and Fantome has another winner.

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Photo of Gmann
3.58/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a slightly hazy honey brown color with a huge loose bubble head that quickly disipates into a sparse cap that leaves some chunky lacing on the glass.

The aroma seems big on coriander, overipe apples, some lemon and a cooked veggie funk. Very much reminds me of a wit aroma which I am not that fond of.

The taste starts off with a coriander blast and vegital funk. There is some pepper spice as well. Tart apples mix with lemon rind. There is a grassy hop element that adds some bitterness in the end. The coriander seems to fade as the beer warms and the tart fruit and bitter hop flavors seem to take over. I pick up some light earthy funk but nothing too descript.

The feel is light to moderate and quite spritzy. Spicy and sweet on the palate but finishes with an earthy bitterness.

A well made beer just not my cup of tea. Seems to be a cross between a wit and a saison. The coriander and veggie aspects of wits I do not like so it reflects in my grade. For those who like wits, give this beer a try.

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Photo of metter98
3.98/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The color is very dark and intriguing for a saison and has reddish hues. It is slightly hazy and has a light amount of carbonation. Lacy patterns of bubbles are floating on the surface.
S: There are light to moderate musty and sour aromas in the nose.
T: Like the smell, there is a mild amount of sourness in the taste, which has notes of fruits and spices.
M: It feels light-bodied and somewhat tart on the palate with a light amount of carbonation. No dryness is perceptible.
D: The beer is relatively easy to drink, especially given its low alcohol content.

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Photo of w5baron
3.75/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of drewone
4/5  rDev +1%

Photo of largadeer
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Corked and capped 750ml bottle shared by nickd717. Thanks, Nick.

Appearance is dark and white. Solid head retention and lacing.

Smells...interesting. Cumin, maybe? Pepper? Very spicy. I also pick out botanicals, dried herbs, barnyard, horse must, pig pen.

The palate is balanced, light - dark malts meet ambiguous and confusing spices and herbs, faint sourness, white pepper, drying funk. Finishes herbal and spicy, flavors linger for such a light beer. Good stuff, strange shit but thoroughly enjoyable.

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Photo of vince4953529
4/5  rDev +1%

Photo of DIM
4.39/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Its been a long time since I've been this excited to try a beer. As soon as I heard of this, I knew I had to try it any cost. Fortunately all I had to do was drive to Maryland. Growing up, my sister called me DDD for Danny dum-dum. I responded with the much more creative Becky bird brain, or BBB. I'm thrilled to be sharing this with BBB and her husband.

a: This was a crystal clear amber color with golden edges. It poured with a small, short lived white head.

s: Very appealing green apple aromas are the most noticeable. As it warms a healthy dose of funk emerges, along with some cinnamon and black pepper spiciness.

t: This is amazingly flavorful for a 4% abv beer. Refreshingly tart and moderately funky green apple with hints of cherry dominate this one. The spices are relatively mild, but the peppery bite at the very end gets increasingly intense as it warms.

m: Full bodied for a small beer, I wouldn't have minded a bit more carbonation.

d: If this was more affordable I'd drink this by the gallon. This uniquely flavored saison doesn't take much of a toll at only 4%. BBB like it too.

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Photo of Patrick999
4.33/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A 4% Fantome - that sounds pretty good on a day I don't feel like drinking much of anything heavy.

Cork extracted with some force. Nice looking poor into a Stella glass. Brownish red, almost the color of a Flanders Red.

I get cinnamon stick in the aroma here, with some sweaty, bacon-y funk. Odd combo, but it works. Quite "funky," to be sure.

Odd, spicy beer. My initial reaction was "ehh...what is this?" but I can feel myself warming to it with successive sips. How to describe it...at first, it had a semi-unpleasant crushed-aspirin bitterness and some hefty spices. It also seemed to drink quite a bit bigger than 4% in body, a role reversal from the bigger Fantomes that usually hide their strength. No matter their stated strength, all these beers feel about 6% to me!

This has a meatiness to it that you wouldn't have expected. I get some of that smoky bacon in the finish and aftertaste. Up front, mineral bitterness, giving way to nutmeg and cinnamon, and the standard Fantome tart character. Sometimes the tart clashes with the spice a bit. That would be my main complaint with this beer. But sometimes it doesn't clash, some sips, it works. That meatiness and a tiny hint of root beer wraps things up.

Strange beer, maybe even stranger than many of the other Fantomes. It is very nuanced and demands contemplation - this is in no way suited for mindless drinking. Despite the aggressive spicing, the bottle is disappearing quicker than I thought. It's fun to drink. But it probably won't be everyone's bag. For the saison lovers, an outstanding beer.

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Fantôme BBB Dark White from Brasserie Fantôme
Beer rating: 89 out of 100 with 287 ratings