Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) | Brasserie Fantôme

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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light)Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme
Belgium
fantome.be

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
This listing is for the label depicting a white background with black spots.

Added by Gueuzedude on 12-27-2007

BEER STATS
Ratings:
165
Reviews:
104
Avg:
4.03
pDev:
11.91%
 
 
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41
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26
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Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of AlexFields
4.3/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of chippo33
2/5  rDev -50.4%

Photo of RblWthACoz
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Yes. It's been too long since I've had a chance to try a new Fantôme. Let's do this, shall we?

Pours a clouded gold with a thinner white head that falls to nothing fairly quickly. Nose is that slightly antiseptic and fully funky. Flavor is bringing the funk, but it also has quite a brighter citric side to it as well. I want to say that the alcohol might be making a slight presence as well. Really it tastes like lemonade in a way. Feel is slick on liquid and the carbonation is biting. Nice to drink. A bit too citric, really. But still it's nice to have.

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Photo of jwc215
4.14/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours hazed orange-amber with an off-white head that thins to a lasting patch.

The smell is of orange, spiced yeast, black pepper, some caramel and a touch of bubblegum. Very complex.

The taste is of caramelish malth with spicy bread and black pepper. Candy sugar? sweetness. Bubblegum is there, but not as prominent as in the nose. There is some warming alcohol in the dry finish.

The carbonation is on-spot - noticeable without being prickly - lends towards helping smoothness.

A nice, complex sipper that seems to be more drinkable, but alcohol does slow it does as it progresses. Malt-accented and smooth. A "winter" brew that could be enjoyed year-round.

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Photo of SadMachine
3.93/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of GClarkage
4.3/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

02/13/08- Purchased at City Beer in San Francisco, CA.

Presentation- 750ml bottle with no freshness info. Lovely off center applied label, probably by Dany himself. Poured into my Fantome tulip.

Appearance- Light blood orange colored pour. Lots of yeast sediment, especially towards the end of the bottle. Murky, but tiny particles and not lumps and chunks of yeast. A decent 3/4 inch head which remains at a slight rim for the duration. Leaves behind light whisps and patches of lace.

Smell- A wee bit of funk, but mostly lemon rind and a bit of corriander and maybe some star anise. Yeast is prevelent as well. Do I also detect some hops?

Taste- Lovely fruity mixture of lemon rind and lemonade tastes along with some orange peel as well. A good amount of corriander and also a pinch of confectioiers sugar to give it a bit of sweetness. For the most part it's mildly sour...or rather tart. Certainly not as sour as lambics or flanders styles.

Mouthfeel- Very carbonated. At first right out the fride it's like taking a mouthfull of foam...as it settles though it actually develops a creamy mouthcoating and carbonation subsides to a nice brisk feeling rather than foamy. Creaminess really makes it nice going down.

Drinkability- Overall another very good beer from Dany. I would definitely purchase this one again if seen....for a reasonable price that is. I believe it was $13.99 or so, which might be just a touch too steep. Overall it's a great beer worth trying.

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Photo of Gonzoillini
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of Gavage
4.38/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: pours a hazy reddish orange color with a big 2" head that slowly falls to a thick surface covering.

Smell: yeast, pepper, and fruit sweetness aren't overwhelming, but they are quite pleasant on the nose.

Taste: plums, honey, green apples, and some hints of orange citrus create the sweetness while the yeast, pepper, hint of alcohol, and bitterness balances it out wonderfully.

Mouthfeel: crisp from start to finish with a short aftertaste. Medium bodied.

Drinkability: very tasty beer that can be quaffed for quite a while. Very expensive, so it may be tough to drink several of these without putting a dent in the wallet.

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Photo of drabmuh
4.35/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Another bottle drank in the woods with a bunch of dudes one night, shared by someone likely named Michael or Matt as it were.

Tasted out of a Fantome glass side by side with the other dalmatian beer.

Beer is nearly clear with a light yellow color, decent soft white one finger head of airy nothingness, low retention but lacing left behind.

Aroma is little fruity, sweet, apricot and lemons. Mild oakiness.

Beer is tart, sour at the back end, funky, sweet up front, light in body, really complex. I like it. Better than the dark version for sure. The sourness is somewhat of a shock, I would have this again.

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Photo of Rochefort10nh
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of ShanePB
3.74/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750 ml corked and capped bottle. Hazy golden yellow, obnoxiously massive pillowy white read. It seemed to have stuck around forever. Great lacing and retention though, but I am knocking points due to it's excessive foam. Aromas of weed, lime, wheat and funk. Flavor is big lime up front with some hay, funk and mint. What a strange, strange beer...

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Photo of Gobzilla
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a burnt orange in color with yellow highlights that had a thin head and left a little lacing sticking to the glass. It had the signature fantome bretty oak funky character in the aroma with mild citrus, vinegar, and faint dark fruits. It didi have some caramel and brown sugar as well. Pears apples flavors blend quite well with the bretty funky oaky character but had vinegar dark fruit citrusy accents and a touch of caramel in the background. The brew was medium in body with a good amount of prickly carbonation which had a oaky, vinegar, sweet, mild fruity, and tart finish. I thought it was decent from fatome and kinda was a little dissapointed cause I heard it was gonna be bomb but was let down.

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Photo of afsdan
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%

Photo of brandoman63
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.13/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a slightly hazy orange brown with a huge fluffy head that sticks around as a 1/2 inch head through the life of the beer. Very nice lacing as well. Bready, spicy, and sweet/sour aromas predominate as well as a slight funk and mustiness. No band-aid or anticeptic, though. Taste is quite a bit more sour than many of their offerings, and quite a bit less spicy, although there is some white pepper lurking at the end. The sourness is greatly tempered by a fruity sweetness to create a slightly funky sweet tart flavor with some flavors of papaya and very ripe nectarines sprinkled with some vinegar and white pepper. Fruitier and funkier than most of the other Fantomes I've had. Tart an smooth mouthfeel, but the sweet tart flavor makes this a bit less refreshing to drink for me- it overwhelms the palate a bit without stimulating it. One is enough for me as interesting as it is.

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Photo of biegaman
4.44/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

La Dalmatienne isn't black and white but it does have spots - floating little flakes of yeast dot the glass (this despite that very close attention was payed to leave behind those last couple really muddy ounces of sediment). Clarity and a resplendent copper colour manage somewhat to persist in this otherwise very handsome looking ale. It looks good in the chalice but would even better suit a snifter.

The inside of the bottle cap was heavily rusted but it smelled amazing. Unsurprisingly the beer smells even better. It is unique and funky to an extent that few beers ever truly are. It has earthy, sweet, and tart features in unusual combinations like oyster mushroom, gjetost cheese, and farmhouse cider.

First and foremost, however, La Dalmatienne shares its stronger similarities with Amontillado or Oloroso sherry as well as brandy. Intoxicating, lightly oxidized flavours of grape must, dried fruits and figs, honey, baking apples, bitter almonds, used oak, and all sorts of miscellaneous things rich and sweet. It's delicious and, again, extraordinarily distinct.

If you know this brewery you know that "a Fantôme never gives up his secrets" - not even production or best before dates unfortunately. This bottle has been in my cellar for so long I can't remember when I bought it (best guess is 7 or 8 years prior). Only once having tried it once before, eons ago, I can't recall how this compares. But one thing's for sure: true to reputation, Fantôme beers do age fantastically.

When I first heard others raving about 10+ year old bottles of Fantôme I was skeptical. As I experimented with aging beers myself I gradually found the results less and less encouraging until eventually becoming a full-fledged 'fresh is best' advocate.

But there are exceptions to every rule. If you have any La Dalmatienne (or any other Fantôme offerings) don't be in a rush. The complexities and characteristics of this bottle were unequivocally distinct in the beer world and its rich, sweet subtleties rivaled only by beverages like brandy and sherry. Whatever the price tag was it was steep - but definitely worth it.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served at about 58°F, the beer is a slow gusher that I was able to get into my glass before I lost any beer. The head, despite a very careful pour, slowly rises to five-finger in height and is a tan color with specs of dark yeast / particulates on it. The beer is quite clear, at least the liquid portions of it, which shows a pale reddish color when held up to the light, but there is also a ton of chunks floating around in the brew. This has quite a spicy nose to it and this mixes in well with interesting malt notes. Aromatic notes of clove, corn tortillas, spicy ginger, crushed caramel malts, oregano, a touch of sage, black pepper, some cardamom, milkweed, and a green vegetal note towards the end as well as some warming alcohol aromatics. Malt aromatics of soda crackers, fruity caramel notes and grassy grain are all noticeable. There is also a fair amount of fruit aromatics noticeable; I get notes of pears, apples, figs and some berry notes. As usual with a Fantôme brew, this has a very complex, layered aroma to it.

The carbonation has died down quite a bit and the beer now has a creamy texture to it that goes along with a fruit laden sweetness. Fruit notes of ripe plums, star fruit (that is at times striking), brandy soaked raisins and apple butter are all quite noticeable. The up front fruit notes are offset somewhat (but never really suppressed) by a spicy middle and finish that brings to mind flavors of white pepper, cloves, . Herbal notes of milkweed, perhaps a touch of green grass and a touch of sharp basil also add some sharpness and balance to the brew as does some sharp higher alcohol notes.

Towards the end of my first glass a sip gets a little chunky, but does not seem to effect the flavor all that much. The second pour is a bit more yeasty, both with a murky appearance and a yeast-like flavor to it. A touch more bready, but also a touch more herbal / vegetal in the finish, but on the other hand it has softened overall.

Another fantastic creation by Brasserie Fantôme. The texture of this brew is quite exquisite, despite being on the heavy side for a Saison and the distinct green, weed-like herbal note in the finish provides a nice balancing note to the heft and fruit sweetness. If this one starts to go sour it could reach phenomenal heights; even still, this is another home run, a fantastic creation, one which I will most definitely have to age a few of. One thing that does leave me wanting; what is the story behind this brew? I would really like to know why / what / how this brew came into being.

Purchased From: Plaza Liquors, Tucson AZ

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Photo of yourefragile
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of KAF
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of beerthulhu
4.32/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

"07" Belgian Blonde style.

A: Poured a bright, hazy golden-orange with a thin beige head that quickly dissipated. Visible carbonation was light.

S: spicy and perfumy full of bananas, cloves, and curacao oranges and bearing a slight resemblance to a Franziskaner wheat, mmmm.

T: The flavor was rich with with strong flavors of creamy bananas, cloves, and tart oranges. There was a slight acidic bite in the swallow. There was a nice honey malt sweetness as well fruitiness (apples, pears) along with some light underlying herbal hoppiness. The beer finished with a nice yeasty spiciness, most notably cloves with a touch of sourness that blended well with the dry orange and malty palate.

M: The mouthful was creamy from the wheat bill with some warm oranges and a slight fizziness from the carbonation.

D: Overall really malty per style and a great example of an extreme blonde. Outstanding.

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Photo of weeare138
4.37/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appears a hazy, amber toned orange with a two finger head of white fluff that slowly fades. Scattered lacing is left around the glass.
Smell is of caramel, citrus, biscuit, with light spicing. Wow...Dany never ceases to amaze. I love the smell with plenty of complexities and fresh doses of yeast and black pepper.
Taste is of the same aromas with mild tartness, along with cream, and graham crackers pulling up the rear. This would go well with chicken picatta, or fresh key lime pie.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, crisp up front, creamy on the finish with near perfect carbonation.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml capped and corked bottle purchased from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Shared with @tobeerornottobe and @LaitueGonflable in Sydney as part of our Fantôme tasting day.

It uncaps without as much as a thunk, and pours similarly: rather flat and heavy. A mild ring of white forms around the edge, but otherwise it looks uncarbonated and pretty dense. Colour is a pleasant slightly hazed golden hue, and it picks up the light nicely: giving it a glow. Overall, it's not bad-looking, but is missing some of the key points of the style and the brewery.

Holy crap, what's going on here? Sweet and sour intensity, like heavily oaked botrytis semillon, with a hint of earthiness and a phenolic, gueuze-like bite. Some marzipan almond acridity. This is very strange: possibly just wrong.

Taste is similar, but maybe a bit better: apple and pear cider characters come through along with a pronounced acidity, and a slightly herbal and slightly carbonic bite on the finish. It feels rather thin, however, and has very little residual body: it's this more than anything that makes me believe this is not how it was supposed to be.

To be honest, I didn't hate it, even though it feels like this sample is infected with something that wasn't meant to be there: the stronger acidity is actually an interesting addition to the base Fantôme beer, which still managed to retain some character. But this is less good than it should have been, I feel, and I wonder just how much this has veered off from its goal.

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Photo of corby112
3.29/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a cloudy golden orange color with yellowish hues and a very thin fizzy white head that immediately fades into a thin ring.  No lacing.  

Earthy aroma with funky saison yeast, light fruit, zesty spice and a prominent citrus character.  Lots of lemon peel and grapefruit along with a subtle vegetal/earthy presence.

Medium bodied and surprisingly tart with a dry, sour funk that lingers throughout into a slightly puckering, dry finish.  There's also a sweet fruit presence with lots of citrusy lemon as well as some apple and pear.  Hints of grass, hay, yeast and a vegetal earthiness.  There's also some faint spice that's nowhere near as strong as in the nose.  Just really weird, kind of like a saison berlinerweisse hybrid. Kind of one dimensional though with an odd sour and sweet fruit flavor.  Not too sour though, more puckering and dry.

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Photo of ADTaber
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) from Brasserie Fantôme
4.03 out of 5 based on 165 ratings.
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