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Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) | Brasserie Fantôme

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BA SCORE
4.01/5
Exceptional
167 Ratings
Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light)Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme
Belgium
fantome.be

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
This listing is for the label depicting a white background with black spots.

Added by Gueuzedude on 12-27-2007

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#4,861
Reviews:
104
Ratings:
167
pDev:
11.72%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
41
Gots:
25
Trade:
1
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Ratings: 167 |  Reviews: 104
Photo of HeadyTheElder
4.66/5  rDev +16.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Most recent batch. One of the craziest tomes ever. Menthol, citrus, earth, cat pee, funk, pine-sol, bong water, lime, grassy, complex... Great experience overall that somehow works well.

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Photo of MarioM
4.67/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

750ml bottle poured into a tulip glass

A: Beer pours with little to no foam with no head what so ever besides a thin film of tiny bubbles around the rim. Golden yellow and very clear after sitting in the fridge a few days and pouring gently.

S: As always, there is something very strange about this beer but its wonderful. The nose is perfume like, almost flowery but not quite. Almost like an artificial flower smelling solvent. Those of you that have guns, it smells like Hoppe's no.9 Bore cleaner that you use to clean the inside of gun barrels, which smells good btw. I know that sounds off putting but it works here somehow.

T: The spices go really well with the aroma and makes for a very interesting and extremely unique experience. Exactly what I expect when shelling out the dough for bottles of Fantome... Worth every penny... There is also a good malt balance to the spice and bitterness. It finishes with an earthy grassiness, very tasty.

M: The beer finishes with a very satisfying and refreshing bitterness that works well with the malt and spices. Carbonation is perfect, not english ale like nor is it champagne. There's a lingering malt character that reminds me of other Fantomes, obviously, but I also recognize it from drinking a double decocted maibock that I made which had a slight smokey character from me scorching the grain during the decoction. I'm now thinking Danny makes his beers by dedoction mash, hmm... Anyways, the aftertaste of this ghost is very tasty!

O: This is an amazing beer. I need to stop typing and go buy more! It is extremely interesting and intriguing. Its obviously weird and I love the Fantome smoke character that you get in "off" bottles, I love the weird ones. This one isn't as weird as it gets but its just right. Not clean but also definitely not too funky. Well done Danny!

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Photo of More_betterness
4.05/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of stakem
3.89/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Leave it to Dany...as soon as im about to drink my last bottle of old style label Dalmatienne light, he releases a new batch with slightly updated label. Zthis review is for the freshly released batch.

750ml poured into a matching Fantome tulip, the brew appears a clouded golden color with a white creamy cap that holds well.

The smell is minty and herbal with a typical saison yeastiness like clove and banana with mild fruitiness laying underneath. It has a cleanliness about it that while enjoyable is young feeling and underdeveloped by Fantome standards.

The taste is bitter and herbal. a cooling almost menthol feel. Notes of clove and banana yeastiness are present with a touch of fruit like apple/pear skins. Like I mentioned in the aroma, this beer tastes young and clean with typical saison yeast character and unfortunately the Fantome house character I love is not yet present in this batch.

It is medium to full bodied with a pleasant creamy feel and moderate carbonation. An interesting brew that falls middle of the road for me. With time this could get better if the funk comes out and the bitterness fades.

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Photo of dcmchew
4.39/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of AlexFields
4.3/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of biegaman
4.44/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

La Dalmatienne isn't black and white but it does have spots - floating little flakes of yeast dot the glass (this despite that very close attention was payed to leave behind those last couple really muddy ounces of sediment). Clarity and a resplendent copper colour manage somewhat to persist in this otherwise very handsome looking ale. It looks good in the chalice but would even better suit a snifter.

The inside of the bottle cap was heavily rusted but it smelled amazing. Unsurprisingly the beer smells even better. It is unique and funky to an extent that few beers ever truly are. It has earthy, sweet, and tart features in unusual combinations like oyster mushroom, gjetost cheese, and farmhouse cider.

First and foremost, however, La Dalmatienne shares its stronger similarities with Amontillado or Oloroso sherry as well as brandy. Intoxicating, lightly oxidized flavours of grape must, dried fruits and figs, honey, baking apples, bitter almonds, used oak, and all sorts of miscellaneous things rich and sweet. It's delicious and, again, extraordinarily distinct.

If you know this brewery you know that "a Fantôme never gives up his secrets" - not even production or best before dates unfortunately. This bottle has been in my cellar for so long I can't remember when I bought it (best guess is 7 or 8 years prior). Only once having tried it once before, eons ago, I can't recall how this compares. But one thing's for sure: true to reputation, Fantôme beers do age fantastically.

When I first heard others raving about 10+ year old bottles of Fantôme I was skeptical. As I experimented with aging beers myself I gradually found the results less and less encouraging until eventually becoming a full-fledged 'fresh is best' advocate.

But there are exceptions to every rule. If you have any La Dalmatienne (or any other Fantôme offerings) don't be in a rush. The complexities and characteristics of this bottle were unequivocally distinct in the beer world and its rich, sweet subtleties rivaled only by beverages like brandy and sherry. Whatever the price tag was it was steep - but definitely worth it.

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Photo of DeutschesBier
3.81/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of crosenkrantz
2.75/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Please, rename to Bitter Orange Fanta.

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Photo of Mattias
3/5  rDev -25.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Some weird herbal taste i can't pick out. As always, interesting but not very good.

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Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of dkw0063
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of Big_Dave
3/5  rDev -25.2%

Photo of DrBier
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

Photo of KAF
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of Spaceangler
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

Photo of BGsWo22
3/5  rDev -25.2%

Photo of Gonzoillini
4.25/5  rDev +6%

Photo of afsdan
4.5/5  rDev +12.2%

Photo of yourefragile
4.25/5  rDev +6%

Photo of chippo33
2/5  rDev -50.1%

Photo of MinorThreat
3.5/5  rDev -12.7%

Photo of InspectorBob
4/5  rDev -0.2%

Photo of laituegonflable
2.96/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a shiny gold colour with no head. Thin film around the edge with dense bubbles. Decent lace. Not bad, but not great.

Smells sweet, honey and nutty. Lots of almondy notes. Sweet predominantly with hints of Belgian phenols on the back. Marzipan, pecan and peanut. I'm definitely missing the funk here.

Wow, world of difference on the palate. So sour. A lot better, and yet still a bit simple and underdeveloped. Peanut notes, some chestnut, with tart vinegar character and some lemon/apple cider notes. Not particularly interesting, just tastes a little unnuanced to me.

Tart mouthfeel with pull from the yeast. A bit dry and acidic, but not bad.

Maybe it was a mistake following Logsdon's excellent Seizoen with this, as this just doesn't taste right to me. Tartness is there but there doesn't seem to be much else.

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Photo of CelticAleMan
3.75/5  rDev -6.5%

Fantôme La Dalmatienne (Light) from Brasserie Fantôme
Beer rating: 4.01 out of 5 with 167 ratings
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