Fantome / Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences Beer | Brasserie Fantôme

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme
Belgium | website

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BEERchitect on 04-09-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Reviews:
31
Ratings:
162
Avg:
3.51
pDev:
20.23%
 
 
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19
Gots:
31
For Trade:
6
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Photo of kojevergas
3.41/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

BOTTLE: Has a paper ribbon over the pry-off crown cap bearing the logos of both breweries involved. The crown cap covers an internally housed cork (in classic Fantome fashion, though breweries like Schneider Weiss and Cantillon also do similar things with packaging). Green glass (ugh...). 1 pint 9.4 fl oz format. Purchased at BierCaB's shop in Barcelona. Abundant yeast/lees are plainly visible at the bottom of the bottle.

Served cold into a tulip and allowed to come to temperature over the course of consumption. Reviewed live as saison per the label. Given the breweries involved, I couldn't be more excited to try this.

6.50% ABV. Brewed & bottled at Fantome. Imported by the Shelton Bastards.

Doesn't gush upon opening. Good sign.

HEAD: Off-white colour. ~3cm wide. Not the most robust or thick consistency I've seen, but even throughout. Leaves no lacing as it recedes, which takes only a disappointing ~1.5 minutes.

BODY: Murky and turbid, revealing its lack of filtration. Looks a bit like stale orange juice given its dull orange colour. Not a vibrant body by any stretch.

Appears aptly carbonated. Not a unique or special appearance for a saison - especially one from the best saison producer on the planet (i.e. Fantome).

AROMA: Funkiness is evident - brettanomyces is in charge of this beer. Faint acidic character is evident, but I don't detect any lactobacillus, pediobacter, or other bacteria. Has a bit more hop presence than most Fantome beers - plenty of subdued fruity notes. Tangerine, melon, maybe orange juice. The coupling of funkiness and acidic character almost indicates brettanomyces lambicus in addition to the requisite brettanomyces bruxellensis, but I'm not willing to make that leap given the lack of any sourness. Hints of cedar, dry fruit peel, white pepper, yeasty spiciness, Belgian ale yeast esters, and faint apple.

Aromatic intensity is moderate. Suggests a balanced acidic dry brew, but what I'm really missing is Fantome's signature complexity and intricate spice profile. It is adequately complex for the style, sure, but it isn't on the stratospheric level of Fantome's finest aromas. Let's hope the taste delivers...

TASTE: Fruit-forward instead of spice-forward, this flavour profile emphasizes apple, pear, dry fruit peel (tangerine and orange come to mind, minus any bitterness), zest, and melon. Cracked grain. Malt backbone is definitely on the paler side. Hints of white pepper and some yeasty spiciness hang in the background, staying subtle but never delving as deep as spices tend to in Fantome's best saisons. Cedar character is present throughout, lending the build a natural unity and cohesion. Hop character is fruity.

Funkheads might be a bit let down; there's some mild brettanomyces (bruxellensis) funkiness throughout, but aggressive descriptors like "gym sock" wouldn't be appropriate for it.

Barnyard notes abound, but they're all rather shallow. Hay/straw, rustic spice, cedar planks left to weather in a barn (if you'll excuse the pretension that description verges on). Somewhat grassy, though not in the classic Hallertauer hop sense of the descriptor.

I can see why some would venture to say "horse blanket," but - as always - I shy the fuck away from that.

A blip of mild lactic character finishes out this somewhat complex saison.

TEXTURE: Acidity is higher than in most good examples of the style. Medium-bodied yet nevertheless refreshing. Subtly prickly (probably from the peppercorn), but not coarse on the palate per se. Dry, absolutely, but never parching or dragging on the palate. Very approachable. A biteen overcarbonated, which is rare for Fantome (especially an aged Fantome) - but I've heard reports to the contrary from many drinkers online.

OVERALL: No, it's not as intricate as Fantome's (or Hill Farmstead)'s finest work, and it seems - as is often the case with collaboration beers - that putting two great cooks in the same kitchen hasn't yielded a better dish. Still, it's a worthy addition to Fantome's lineup (even if it tends towards the bottom of Fantome's range in terms of quality). I'm glad I tried it once, but at its price point (and it's import price point is all we can go on based on its lack of ubiquity in its country of origin) I wouldn't want another. Certainly drinkable, but it's best treated as a table beer for pairing with food, not a world-class saison you should savour every sip of.

B- / WORTHY

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4.25/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

With the rustic time-honored roots of Fantome Farmhouse Ales and the innovation of Hill Farmstead, these brewers of high quality put their heads together for a collaborative ale like no other!

The ale erupts with a slow separation between a tawny, redish brown beer underneath and a creamy arid froth above. Fairly well saturated in its hue, the slight visual density is aided by significant yeast haze. The rocky head sprinkles with yeast sediment as is shows strong persistence and clumped lace on the glass. The ale simply gleams of Belgian quality.

High spice aromas tingle the nose as they approach distinctive scents of fresh cracked black pepper, light smoke and rubber notes. A dusting of old attic-like wood, horse hair, and dried citrus peels introduce complex earthen notes. Underlying it all is the tart scent of dry fruit, berry juice, and wine must. But even with pronounced fruit notes this is a very spicy scent.

Just as dry in taste, the beer zips to the tongue with cracked peppercorn (both black and white), sharp white wine tartness, and a plethora of wood spices. Dry fruit juice, citrus pith, and wine must bleed into a light apple sulfur taste that's backed with tart blackcurrant, blackberry, plumb and prune. But the beer's return to spice in the finish continues to deliver exotic earth notes including cumin and aniseed.

Its supreme dusty texture and racy carbonation pulls the beer from the tongue and glides it toward a quick, fast-fleeting finish. It's as if the beer is best explored in aftertaste because of its high drinkability and ease on the palate, throat, and stomach. Only hints of dry fruit peak through the prickle of spice, alcohol, and almost capsasin character.

It's an extremely complex, extremely dry, and extremely spicy Saison that doesn't entirely ignore fruit and earth influences. This beer exhibits what's best about Farmhouse Ales done right and refusing to ignore the rustic taste of days gone by. It's a superb ale of any measure.

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3.5/5  rDev -0.3%

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4/5  rDev +14%

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3/5  rDev -14.5%

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3.25/5  rDev -7.4%

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2.25/5  rDev -35.9%

Photo of Altenor
1.81/5  rDev -48.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I wasn't sure if to review this brew or not, but there is a mix of opinions around here. It seems as if most people that got the carbonated bottle got the true intention of the brewers while the ones that got the still ones were disappointed.

I was one of the ones that got no carbonation, so you know what I think about this brew. The bottle came with cap and cork which made me expect lots of carbonation but it was totally still.

Appearance was very weird. Pinkish pale with orange and totally flat. Never had seen a beer like this.

Smell was super funky and sour. I wasn't expecting it at all either, but it went with the appearance.

After all this I still went ahead and tasted it. Not good. Super vinegary and sour. Got some grain notes in there as well.

Mouthfeel inexistant. No carbonation at all. Just a whole mess.

Not a pleasant experience. Really was looking forward to trying this brew given the two great breweries that were involved. All I can say is that it reminded me of the people that tried WTF from Sam Adams

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2.75/5  rDev -21.7%

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4/5  rDev +14%

Photo of ehammond1
4.37/5  rDev +24.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Bottle (2013)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, baconsausage!

Slightly hazed, but bright orange. A glowing, beautiful color. Moderately thick near-white head. Nice retention and pretty, sticky lacing left down the glass. Very pretty saison. I had heard about some bottles having carbonation issues, but this one is spot-on perfect.

I knew this beer was going to be special the moment I first smelled it. There's a lovely combination of lemon and lime notes, along with dried hay and grass, and some earth and very mild funk. Nothing is overpowering or dominant, and it all comes together really nicely. There's a mild apple character as well, but this smells like a Sprite saison, if there ever was one.

The flavor follows a similar path as the aroma. Subtle, earthy, but mild yeast combines nicely with lemon and lime esters. Again, this resembles a Sprite, but in the form of a saison. Low bitterness and no alcohol presence, whatsoever. Some mild berry and apple notes as well complement the bright citrus notes. Incredibly drinkable, and a wonderful beer for the hotter summer months.

Medium bodied with high carbonation. Crisp. Refreshing.

Fantastic. I had major concerns going into this bottle, knowing that some were fantastic and others were dreadful, at least according to reports. Happy to report that this bottle was fantastic.

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4.01/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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3.75/5  rDev +6.8%

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2.75/5  rDev -21.7%

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4.07/5  rDev +16%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Thanks to Adam Jackson for this unsolicited box after seeing my ISO.

750ml bottle corked, capped and labeled, poured into 1000ml Erlenmeyer Flask. http://i.imgur.com/YHYntay.jpg

Pours an interesting ruddy clay color with tons of fluffy white head.

The smell is pure Fantome yeast. Very distinct dirty, musty, mushroomy smell up front that gives way to layer and layers of aroma. A slight bit of smokiness that turns into ham. Some definite bright acidity like a fresh lemon in there too.

Taste is a nicely refreshing. Good malt body with a touch of acidity to even it out, nice dry grain flavors that make it no problem to work my way through this entire 750ml bottle.

Mouthfeel is light without being watery. Full flavored but refreshing enough to keep me coming back for more.

At first when it was cold this beer leaned a bit too heavily towards the dirty mushroom flavors but as it warmed those toned down and were cut better by the acidity leading to a wonderful drinking saison. If you like Fantome yeast, you will like this beer.

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4/5  rDev +14%

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3.25/5  rDev -7.4%

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3.75/5  rDev +6.8%

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3.56/5  rDev +1.4%

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4/5  rDev +14%

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4.5/5  rDev +28.2%

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3.75/5  rDev +6.8%

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3.3/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Gushes instantly. Pours with an equal quantity of foam as beer. Great retention. Pretty orange body with a reddish hue.

Smell - And it's odd. Citrus. Caramel malts. Smokey aroma. Slight acidity.

Taste - And it's even more odd. Citrus tang. Flavor drops off in the middle and comes back with a smokey and kinda plasticky flavor.

Mouthfeel - Medium low body. High carbonation. Funny aftertaste.

Overall - A strange concoction. Not sure it deserves the hate it gets, but it is weird.

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4/5  rDev +14%

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Fantome / Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences Beer from Brasserie Fantôme
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