Fantome / Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences Beer | Brasserie Fantôme

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Fantôme
Belgium
fantome.be

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BEERchitect on 04-09-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
165
Reviews:
31
Avg:
3.51
pDev:
20.23%
 
 
Wants:
19
Gots:
30
For Trade:
6
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2.75/5  rDev -21.7%

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2.88/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Bottle I brought to share at Oneinchaway's tasting.

Pours a murky light reddish-orange that pours with no head. No lacing on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, hay, chalk, yeast, and lots of funky aromas. Taste is much the same with sour and smoke flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of yeast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with an almost flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a below average beer with some odd aromas and flavors that are pretty disappointing coming from both brewers.

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3.25/5  rDev -7.4%

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3.75/5  rDev +6.8%

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2/5  rDev -43%

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2.18/5  rDev -37.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

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4.25/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

With the rustic time-honored roots of Fantome Farmhouse Ales and the innovation of Hill Farmstead, these brewers of high quality put their heads together for a collaborative ale like no other!

The ale erupts with a slow separation between a tawny, redish brown beer underneath and a creamy arid froth above. Fairly well saturated in its hue, the slight visual density is aided by significant yeast haze. The rocky head sprinkles with yeast sediment as is shows strong persistence and clumped lace on the glass. The ale simply gleams of Belgian quality.

High spice aromas tingle the nose as they approach distinctive scents of fresh cracked black pepper, light smoke and rubber notes. A dusting of old attic-like wood, horse hair, and dried citrus peels introduce complex earthen notes. Underlying it all is the tart scent of dry fruit, berry juice, and wine must. But even with pronounced fruit notes this is a very spicy scent.

Just as dry in taste, the beer zips to the tongue with cracked peppercorn (both black and white), sharp white wine tartness, and a plethora of wood spices. Dry fruit juice, citrus pith, and wine must bleed into a light apple sulfur taste that's backed with tart blackcurrant, blackberry, plumb and prune. But the beer's return to spice in the finish continues to deliver exotic earth notes including cumin and aniseed.

Its supreme dusty texture and racy carbonation pulls the beer from the tongue and glides it toward a quick, fast-fleeting finish. It's as if the beer is best explored in aftertaste because of its high drinkability and ease on the palate, throat, and stomach. Only hints of dry fruit peak through the prickle of spice, alcohol, and almost capsasin character.

It's an extremely complex, extremely dry, and extremely spicy Saison that doesn't entirely ignore fruit and earth influences. This beer exhibits what's best about Farmhouse Ales done right and refusing to ignore the rustic taste of days gone by. It's a superb ale of any measure.

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3.41/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

BOTTLE: Has a paper ribbon over the pry-off crown cap bearing the logos of both breweries involved. The crown cap covers an internally housed cork (in classic Fantome fashion, though breweries like Schneider Weiss and Cantillon also do similar things with packaging). Green glass (ugh...). 1 pint 9.4 fl oz format. Purchased at BierCaB's shop in Barcelona. Abundant yeast/lees are plainly visible at the bottom of the bottle.

Served cold into a tulip and allowed to come to temperature over the course of consumption. Reviewed live as saison per the label. Given the breweries involved, I couldn't be more excited to try this.

6.50% ABV. Brewed & bottled at Fantome. Imported by the Shelton Bastards.

Doesn't gush upon opening. Good sign.

HEAD: Off-white colour. ~3cm wide. Not the most robust or thick consistency I've seen, but even throughout. Leaves no lacing as it recedes, which takes only a disappointing ~1.5 minutes.

BODY: Murky and turbid, revealing its lack of filtration. Looks a bit like stale orange juice given its dull orange colour. Not a vibrant body by any stretch.

Appears aptly carbonated. Not a unique or special appearance for a saison - especially one from the best saison producer on the planet (i.e. Fantome).

AROMA: Funkiness is evident - brettanomyces is in charge of this beer. Faint acidic character is evident, but I don't detect any lactobacillus, pediobacter, or other bacteria. Has a bit more hop presence than most Fantome beers - plenty of subdued fruity notes. Tangerine, melon, maybe orange juice. The coupling of funkiness and acidic character almost indicates brettanomyces lambicus in addition to the requisite brettanomyces bruxellensis, but I'm not willing to make that leap given the lack of any sourness. Hints of cedar, dry fruit peel, white pepper, yeasty spiciness, Belgian ale yeast esters, and faint apple.

Aromatic intensity is moderate. Suggests a balanced acidic dry brew, but what I'm really missing is Fantome's signature complexity and intricate spice profile. It is adequately complex for the style, sure, but it isn't on the stratospheric level of Fantome's finest aromas. Let's hope the taste delivers...

TASTE: Fruit-forward instead of spice-forward, this flavour profile emphasizes apple, pear, dry fruit peel (tangerine and orange come to mind, minus any bitterness), zest, and melon. Cracked grain. Malt backbone is definitely on the paler side. Hints of white pepper and some yeasty spiciness hang in the background, staying subtle but never delving as deep as spices tend to in Fantome's best saisons. Cedar character is present throughout, lending the build a natural unity and cohesion. Hop character is fruity.

Funkheads might be a bit let down; there's some mild brettanomyces (bruxellensis) funkiness throughout, but aggressive descriptors like "gym sock" wouldn't be appropriate for it.

Barnyard notes abound, but they're all rather shallow. Hay/straw, rustic spice, cedar planks left to weather in a barn (if you'll excuse the pretension that description verges on). Somewhat grassy, though not in the classic Hallertauer hop sense of the descriptor.

I can see why some would venture to say "horse blanket," but - as always - I shy the fuck away from that.

A blip of mild lactic character finishes out this somewhat complex saison.

TEXTURE: Acidity is higher than in most good examples of the style. Medium-bodied yet nevertheless refreshing. Subtly prickly (probably from the peppercorn), but not coarse on the palate per se. Dry, absolutely, but never parching or dragging on the palate. Very approachable. A biteen overcarbonated, which is rare for Fantome (especially an aged Fantome) - but I've heard reports to the contrary from many drinkers online.

OVERALL: No, it's not as intricate as Fantome's (or Hill Farmstead)'s finest work, and it seems - as is often the case with collaboration beers - that putting two great cooks in the same kitchen hasn't yielded a better dish. Still, it's a worthy addition to Fantome's lineup (even if it tends towards the bottom of Fantome's range in terms of quality). I'm glad I tried it once, but at its price point (and it's import price point is all we can go on based on its lack of ubiquity in its country of origin) I wouldn't want another. Certainly drinkable, but it's best treated as a table beer for pairing with food, not a world-class saison you should savour every sip of.

B- / WORTHY

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2.75/5  rDev -21.7%

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3.84/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Hazy orange, visible rising carb trails, about two fingers of foam on top. Minimal spotty lacing, some arcs eventually stick to the glass, surface has a creamy texture as the bubbles disperse.

Musty aroma, horse stall hay, mushrooms, orange peel, phenolic pepper. Bread dough. Odd but somehow appealing...

Grainy malts, tart dried citrus fruit, finishes dry and pretty clean. Not overly spicy. Pretty drinkable, a simple saison with some light pepper and dried orange peel happening. Rustic, slightly tart and a little funky. This is more like Fantome than the last bottle of Fantome Saison I've had.

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3.5/5  rDev -0.3%

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3.75/5  rDev +6.8%

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3.25/5  rDev -7.4%

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4/5  rDev +14%

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3.96/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split with rudzud. Batch 2

Decent creamy smaller head decent lacing, light hazy mostly clear straw honey orange color.

Nose is pretty good, light sour funk, tart lemony, mild sweet malt, straw, lemongrass, little lemon candy and cereal, little peach like sour fruit, and some lacto funk way underneath that gets stronger as it warms. Little floral like almost dandelion.

Taste is not as good, but decent, a mild sweet candy malt starts, sweet increases and almost toasty caramel syrupy candi sugar. Then grassy notes, floral with little elder flower and hint of chamomile, and dandelion like again, mild horsehair funk and yeast, mild phenols, dry with touch of apricot like sour fruit. Mild gassy bitterness too, floral grassy flavors, just a bit earthy. Finish is dry and a bit bitter, mild sticky with light grassy floral flavor lingering and hint of funk.

Mouth is med to lighter bod, nice carb, bit crisp.

Overall not bad, not worth the price, bit pretty enjoyable unlike batch one supposedly.

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3/5  rDev -14.5%

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3.47/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks again to Ray for the share!

I'm not sure exactly what Hill Farmstead contributed to this brew, but I got mostly Fantome in everything. I'm also curious as to the exact spice bill on this one.

Hazy coppery color, with a good-sized, foamy, white head that retained well and laced the glass. Grassy funk in the nose, pretty typical of a saison, toasted grains, peppery spice, and possibly juniper berries? The taste was largely herbal and spicy--not quite Saison Printemps spicy, but still pretty spicy. The wife suggested juniper, and I think that was a good call, and I also detected possible notes of rosemary, dandelion, and green tea. Leafy, grassy, some wet hay, dry earthy finish. Crisp mouthfeel, light-medium body. Not something I'd want a whole bottle of for myself, but it was definitely a good one for a sharing.

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4.18/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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3/5  rDev -14.5%

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3.55/5  rDev +1.1%

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4/5  rDev +14%

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3.3/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Gushes instantly. Pours with an equal quantity of foam as beer. Great retention. Pretty orange body with a reddish hue.

Smell - And it's odd. Citrus. Caramel malts. Smokey aroma. Slight acidity.

Taste - And it's even more odd. Citrus tang. Flavor drops off in the middle and comes back with a smokey and kinda plasticky flavor.

Mouthfeel - Medium low body. High carbonation. Funny aftertaste.

Overall - A strange concoction. Not sure it deserves the hate it gets, but it is weird.

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3/5  rDev -14.5%

The beer appears golden with a thic white head. Aromas of spice, malt, oddities, well water, funk, earth. The beer definitely seems more Fantôme than Hill Farmstead. Weord, earthy, herbal. Flavors do not cooperate well. A jumbled mess of odd spices. Cracked black pepper with some fruity notes. I am not a fan of this one.

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Fantome / Hill Farmstead 5 Sciences Beer from Brasserie Fantôme
3.51 out of 5 based on 165 ratings.
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