Ol' Red Cease & Desist Wee Heavy Ale | Erie Brewing Co.

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Ol' Red Cease & Desist Wee Heavy AleOl' Red Cease & Desist Wee Heavy Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Erie Brewing Co.
Pennsylvania, United States
eriebrewingco.com

Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.10%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by jhicks12 on 11-20-2007

BEER STATS
Ratings:
284
Reviews:
133
Avg:
3.49
pDev:
15.76%
 
 
Wants:
9
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37
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Photo of kylehay2004
3.08/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: no head really on a amber with copper hues clear body.

S: caramel, wood, toffee, soy, canned corn and peat malts.

T: lots of canned corn in this flavor. caramel, wood and peat are minor players. Its like drinking the corn juice out of a can of corn. Brown sugar and candied fruits late in the finish. The alcohol is extremely well hidden though.

M: medium body and moderate carbonation. nicely smooth.

Overall: I just couldn't get over the canned corn aroma and flavor. It distracted me and effected this ones drinkability. Maybe mine was infected?

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.45/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

this deserves just a little more credit than its getting. thanks to my dad for surprising me with this one. tons of booze on it, holy cow, strong even for a style known for being strong. you dont often see these up over 10% abv, and its not all that well hidden here, definitely a bit hot. a nice amber color on it, and rather clear, maybe a shade or two lighter than is normal for the style. not much head though, and thats a precursor to my main critique, which is that this beer is almost totally flat. it needs to move a little, and it doesnt, even a small bottle gets heavy as a result. its also a little sweeter than i like. less of the earthy peaty thing going on, no smoke at all, it lacks depth in the grain bill, instead producing a rather unilateral caramel malt effect, which makes it overly sweet. i like the yeast though, and i like the way it warms up, showing a little bit of hops there. its definitely a step below the best beers these guys make, and probably a couple steps behind better examples of the style, but for the lover of sweet strong ales, this one is sure to please.

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Photo of Knapp85
4.18/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This brew poured out as a really pretty looking red color with a creamy looking orangey head on it. The lacing was nice along the glass. The smell of the beer was sweet and malty, very pleasing aroma on this beer. The smell transferred perfectly to the taste where the peated malts meet with some caramel and brown sugar. The taste I found to be very very nice. The mouthfeel was smooth and kind of creamy, a little bit of carbonation working well on this beer. Overall this brew was worth trying on just about all levels in my opinion. I'm very surprised this doesn't have better reviews on here.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.03/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It seems that Erie Brewing Co. does a great job of taking the world's classic beer styles and simplifying them into just beer, or just non-descript American ales. They taste fine but are void of the true authentic flavors of those styles because its easier to brew convenient beers with convenient ingredients and convenient techniques. Truly authentic examples takes care that's just not displayed here. This Wee Heavy speaks to much the same.

Ol Red Cease and Desist becomes a malt-forward, caramel sweet ale but not without the mild hop bitterness of pine and earth. Slight bread crust flavors blend into toffee richness but without the supportive complexities of toast, developed malt taste, any slight grapey esters or smoke variety that often makes Scottish Ales both distinctive and gentlemanly. Somewhat distracting buttery notes and ill placed bruised apple taste distracts from the otherwise one-dimensional caramel sweetness. A long-lasting sugary sweetness surplant the malty-dry finish as the predominant lingering memory in aftertaste.

This Wee Heavy is a fine beer, but its no more a Strong Scottish Ale as it is an ambiguous American Strong Ale, Barleywine, Imperial Red... or pick another strong beer. Tasty for a session perhaps but the beer just doesn't know what it is.

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Photo of brentk56
3.4/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a rocky head that attempts to leave a few shards of lace

Smell: The aroma combines the appropriate level of malt but instead of the hoped for peaty aspect, there is a fruity quality that seems a bit odd for the style; more like a Barleywine

Taste: Open auspiciously, with a nice caramel malty flavor but it bever really develops to show any complexity

Mouthfeel: Medium to heavy body with moderate to low carbonation; some heat on the finish; should have a fuller body

Drinkability: Not bad, but has a number of flaws that really knock this down to the lower end of the rating scale

Thanks, kbuzz, for the chance to re-visit

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Photo of dmorgan310
3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of chinchill
3.41/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

undated12 oz bottle served in a Piraat snifter.

Appearance – Pours a mahogany color with a small and short-lived off-white head. The head left only a sparse spots of lacing.

Smell – Lightly sweet and moderately boozy. Some notes of baked bread and fruits, with a touch of peat smoke.

Taste – Starts quite sweet with caramel, caramelized sugar, and some breadiness. Some smoke works into the taste, becoming peaty in the finish. A boozy, beer liqueur character.

Mouthfeel – Medium+ body; low carbonation; moderate alcohol harshness and warmth.

Overall – More boozy then desirable, even for 10% ABV. Relatively fruity as if a somewhat Belgian version of the style.

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Photo of jlindros
3.47/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

THanks to dfclav for this one.

Pours a light creamy head that barely covers, over semi clear reddish rosy colored beer.

Nose has lots of reddish malts, light booze, some brown sugar and molasses, light syrupy aroma, toffee, and just a hint of earthy hops.

Taste slightly creamy, more reddish malts, some molasses, light earthy hops, a bit boozy, syrupy, toffee, caramel, little bit of herbal hops, but the whole thing just feels light likeit's missing some malt character. Finishes still sweet, lingering syrupy flavors, toasty malts, and little boozy tingle.

Mouth is medium bodied but a light feeling, with lower carbonation and some booze warmth and tingly.

Overall meh, decent beer, but missing something, a little boozy too.

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Photo of oberon
3.41/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

After being out in the insanely windy and blustery weather of wny today I was looking forward to having a big warming malty brew this let me a little dissaponited.Poured into a standard pint glass a rich deep amber with a touch of tawny hue a nice tight formed one finger slight off white head atop,lighter aromas than expected for such a big beer some molasses and rown sugar with a touch ogf gummy fruitiness.I was really suprised at how basic the flavors were note very much malt complexity,starting out uneventful with a little dryer woodiness finishing with some molasses and brown sugar sweetness just as simple as that.As the beer warmed the alcohol showed itself more but didnt really lend anything to the beer except for maybe bringing the drinkability factor down a little.Eh not terrible just basic in my mind.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.06/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

"At times one remains faithful to a cause only because its opponents do not cease to be insipid."

--Friedrich Nietzsche

Dusky russet red with orange peel colored highlights. A thick chunk of golden brown sugar colored foam appeared on the pour. The head has a whipped creamy texture and is doing a fine job laying down tattered sheets of lace. About half of it sticks in the end.

The nose is primarily caramel malty... and that's pretty much the extent of things. There's also a mineral-like quality that stops just short of metallic. Nor does it smell like this will be very malty sweet beer. Minimal appreciable alcohol is a minor plus.

Erie Ol' Red Cease & Desist (gotta use the ampersand) is not a stellar example of the style. The aroma does not lie. The beer is more bitter than sweet, which should never happen in a wee heavy. It's also still considerably metallic, like licking stainless steel. Here's hoping things mellow out once it gains a few degrees.

The vague outlines of a decent Scotch ale are there. Steely caramel dominates, followed by bitter tea leaves, a hint of orange peel, wood resin and a small splash of grain alcohol. It would be a craft beer crime if Pennsylvanians got the idea that this is how wee heavies are supposed to taste.

Warming softens things a little, but not enough. The mouthfeel falls in line with all the rest. It's too skimpy and the carbonation doesn't distinguish itself at all. More malt and more expertly buried bubbles would have helped.

This offering used to be called Red Ryder Big Beer. Apparently, those who hold the rights to the movie 'A Christmas Story' told Erie to cease and desist, since Red Ryder is the brand name of the air rifle that Ralphie wants so badly. Even if it isn't true, it's still an interesting story. I wish the same could be said of Ol' Red.

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Photo of Jason
2.72/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

No modest froth here, it comes right to the top of the glass. Ok retention and the clarity is bright. Fruity aroma with a dried biscuit dusting in the nose. Creamy smooth mouth feel, full bodied. Hit of harsh solvent alcohol after each sip, caramel and bready maltiness is there but clouded by the hot alcohol. Hops are minimal. Dry finish with more lingering alcohol heat.

I'm not even sure if age will do this beer any good. Its far from being horrible but it is a chore to sip, it has headache written all over it. A bit too attenuated, hot and fruity for the style.

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Photo of woodychandler
3.74/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This will be my first entry for New Beer Sunday (Week 625), which I am referring to as New Odds & Sods Sunday, since they are beers that do not fit any remaining horizontals in the Bottle Backlog inventory.

From the bottle: "enjoy erie brews".

Let us hope that I enjoy this one more than the Bros did! Having Pop!ped the cap, I wanted to see what kind of head I could create & what sort of retention it might evince. The answer was a finger of foamy, tawny head, but the retention was fairly low, reducing to mere wisps. Color was Deep Amber/Light Copper to Copper (SRM = > 13, < 17) with NE-quality clarity. Nose was quite sweet with a syrupy, berry-like quality. Interesting. I swear that I smell raspberries! Mouthfeel was medium. The taste was very malty, loaded with a cereal sweetness, underlain by a light raspberry flavor with a slight grassy bitterness. It was not bad, per se, but it was far too sweet for my taste. Finish remained sweet, but fortunately not cloying. It was also a rather dangerous drink in that its relatively high ABV was hardly noticeable. It would be quite easy to simply quaff this one down & not glance back. Phew!

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Photo of Slatetank
3.36/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

I tried this from the bottle chilled- in a glass

The color is dark copper/bronze with good clarity and small tan head. The smell is malty with a slight mineral and gentle caramel aroma. The feel is mildly roasted with a light alcohol and mild sweetness with moderate carbonation and semi-dry finish.

The taste is okay but the yeast does not add much to the overall flavor with a caramel flavor in the malt and moderately high alcohol in the taste adding a medicinal quality. overall I was not really impressed with this however I may try it again to see if it has improved

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Photo of PA-Michigander
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of InspectorBob
3.53/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.73/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served last night off the cask at Piper's Pub, talk about excellent cellaring. These guys are pouring proper pints. Hug foaming khaki head completed with a smooth creamy texture, body is deep ruby garnett semi clouded. Smells tart with some underlying fruit and raisins. Very malty no real hop presence maybe just a little bit of earthiness. Flavor was okay a bit hot with alchol excessively sweet with malt flowing from every angle. Tart grape and raisins flood the palate as well. More earthy hops blended well. Mouthfeel is creamy silky smooth low well done carbonation, the mouthfeel is money. Drinkability overall is okay but the twang and loads of malt didn't completely agree with me, this is the same brew that went through some name changes but it's been around for quite sometime.

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Photo of tdm168
3.54/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of ejimhof
3/5  rDev -14%

Photo of rab53
3.25/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of Duff27
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of IPAchris
2.75/5  rDev -21.2%

Photo of tone77
3.46/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a brown 12 oz. bottle. Has a bronze/amber color with very little head to speak of. Smell is mild, some bready malts. Taste is bready malts, alcohol, dark fruits. Feels medium bodied in the mouth and overall ,a bit boozy, but a pretty good beer.

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Photo of tempest
3.6/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured clear red with a tall light tan head. There's a strong bready toast and crust aroma with a hint of toffee that's a little cleaner than most in the style. The flavor falls a little flat for such a strong beer. There's a earthy spice and creamy candy with the aroma's dark bread grain notes. I suppose it is smooth and easy to drink, but the character just seems muted given the strength.

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Photo of WesWes
3.63/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a dark amber/red color with a thick frothy offwhite head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is decent. It has a mild burnt toffee scent along with a light roasted character. The alcohol is barely noticeable. The taste is decent as well. It has a tastey caramel malt flavor with a light roasted/smokey feel. The alcohol presence is there, but well hidden. It goes down extremely smooth and finishes sweet with a dry edge. It seems a little thin for a Wee Heavy. The mouthfeel is fine. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is an easy drinking "big" beer. It's full flavored with an alcohol kick that's not too noticeable.

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Ol' Red Cease & Desist Wee Heavy Ale from Erie Brewing Co.
3.49 out of 5 based on 284 ratings.
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