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Ol' Red Cease And Desist | Erie Brewing Co.

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Ol' Red Cease And DesistOl' Red Cease And Desist

Brewed by:
Erie Brewing Co.
Pennsylvania, United States

Style: Scotch Ale / Wee Heavy

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.10%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Photo of jtierney89
4.3/5  rDev +23.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours a nice deep amber color with an off white head that settles down to a thick lace. Nose is big and boozey; lots of vanilla and toffee. Some alcohol is present on the nose as well, but in a good way, stings the nostrils as a scotch ale should.

HUGE body. Taste is smooth and malty. Incredibly malty with well blended flavors. No tongue confusion going on, just some well balanced goodness.

Lots of dark fruits with a big bready character and a subtle hop finish lends this beer a really smooth balance.

I'm down with this.

Also, couldnt detect a trace of that 10% abv

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.03/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It seems that Erie Brewing Co. does a great job of taking the world's classic beer styles and simplifying them into just beer, or just non-descript American ales. They taste fine but are void of the true authentic flavors of those styles because its easier to brew convenient beers with convenient ingredients and convenient techniques. Truly authentic examples takes care that's just not displayed here. This Wee Heavy speaks to much the same.

Ol Red Cease and Desist becomes a malt-forward, caramel sweet ale but not without the mild hop bitterness of pine and earth. Slight bread crust flavors blend into toffee richness but without the supportive complexities of toast, developed malt taste, any slight grapey esters or smoke variety that often makes Scottish Ales both distinctive and gentlemanly. Somewhat distracting buttery notes and ill placed bruised apple taste distracts from the otherwise one-dimensional caramel sweetness. A long-lasting sugary sweetness surplant the malty-dry finish as the predominant lingering memory in aftertaste.

This Wee Heavy is a fine beer, but its no more a Strong Scottish Ale as it is an ambiguous American Strong Ale, Barleywine, Imperial Red... or pick another strong beer. Tasty for a session perhaps but the beer just doesn't know what it is.

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Photo of Knapp85
4.18/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This brew poured out as a really pretty looking red color with a creamy looking orangey head on it. The lacing was nice along the glass. The smell of the beer was sweet and malty, very pleasing aroma on this beer. The smell transferred perfectly to the taste where the peated malts meet with some caramel and brown sugar. The taste I found to be very very nice. The mouthfeel was smooth and kind of creamy, a little bit of carbonation working well on this beer. Overall this brew was worth trying on just about all levels in my opinion. I'm very surprised this doesn't have better reviews on here.

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Photo of jballeng
4.23/5  rDev +21.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a beautiful deep red amber with a small, lasting head with moderate lacing.

Aromas of cherry, malt, brown sugar, and caramel. Slightly toasty.

Immediate metallic taste which leaves quickly followed closely by very smooth caramel and brown sugar notes followed by toasty malts and a huge cherry and pie crust, caramelized apples, slight alcohol (very slight for 10%), and other fruity esters, cinnamon, and nutmeg.

Very smooth, very malty, quite sweet, and huge notes of autumnal fruits and spices make this a winner. Only drawback is that metallic taste at the beginning but that goes away very quickly.

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Photo of tigg924
3.74/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: minimal head, cloudy, dark reddish-brown in color, sediment is noticeable, medium carbonation

Smell: toffee and caramel

Taste: toffee, caramel malt, earth, some floral hops in the back

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy body, sweet start with a bitter middle and a less bitter end, moderate carbonation

Overall: I like this one, but it is a sipper. It has a nice combo of earth and sweet malt. I wish I would have picked up more than just a single.

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Photo of TwoHeartedMale
4.09/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: very dark amber almost brown. thin whitw head.

s: all i can smell is a p.b. and jay with some sort of sour red berry zuckercorn.

t: sweet and sour red berry. sometimes i say straw then the next sip i say razz. its very sour and i think that its the only thing that could make it a wee heavy.

m: med carb but very sweet and sour and that rides on for a while.

o: this beer is a scotch ale??? my white behind!!! this beer is sweet and fruity with a sour aftertaste, if it were up to me this beer would be under flanders but i didnt brew it so ya....

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Photo of jlindros
3.47/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

THanks to dfclav for this one.

Pours a light creamy head that barely covers, over semi clear reddish rosy colored beer.

Nose has lots of reddish malts, light booze, some brown sugar and molasses, light syrupy aroma, toffee, and just a hint of earthy hops.

Taste slightly creamy, more reddish malts, some molasses, light earthy hops, a bit boozy, syrupy, toffee, caramel, little bit of herbal hops, but the whole thing just feels light likeit's missing some malt character. Finishes still sweet, lingering syrupy flavors, toasty malts, and little boozy tingle.

Mouth is medium bodied but a light feeling, with lower carbonation and some booze warmth and tingly.

Overall meh, decent beer, but missing something, a little boozy too.

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Photo of mattgreger
3.24/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This brew poured a clear, dark red color. There wasn't much of a head, but it did leave a nice little cap that was a light tan color and very creamy looking. Not much lacing as the brew was drank, which is common with a brew that has such a high ABV.

The aroma on this brew begins with great biscuity malt, that nice a sweet, then moves on a bit of a grainy note. Its followed by some great dark fruits, I can detect som raisins, maybe more. There is a bit of a caramel note as well, that feeds into the alcohol as the brew warms.

The flavor on this brew is pretty good, but it is missing something. It starts out with the great malt flavors you smell in the front of teh brew, then it feeds into the biscuity/grainy malts and just a touch of dark fruits, which I really can't tell what they are. Its kind of odd, the brew just gets heavy in alcohol and fades. It kinda loses its life. I was really enjoying, then nothing.

The mouthful on this brew has a medium to heavy body, with not very much carbonation, which is pretty much expected with this style brew. There is a great alcohol punch as well. And a good finish as well, it just kind of loses its flavor in the warming. Its there for the start, then fades to a straight alcohol burn.

Its still a decent brew, but not the best by any means when it comes to the style. Its kind of lacking something. I feel it was missing more of the dark fruits you get in these brews. This brew has a decently high ABV, so be ready for a big hit as you SIP this brew.

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Photo of Radome
3.3/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a snifter.

A - Beer is a clear medium red color. The head is tan and thick and creamy. Attractive.

S - Aroma is sweet biscuity malt mixed with a grainy note that is like pilsner malt. Caramel and dark fruit follow; I get plums and raisins. Alcohol follows.

T - The taste is not as nice as the aroma and appearance to me. It starts out with somewhat sharp, grainy malt. Then there is some sweet biscuity malt in the middle with dark fruit notes. But these tastes end abruptly.

M - Body is medium to heavy with low carbonation, as expected. Alcohol is very noticeable. An astringent finish that leaves an unexpectedly dry feel.

D - Overall a good beer, but not great. Has an out-of-place graininess and astringency and not enough warm malt sweetness for the style. I might have liked it better if it was labeled an Abbey style. I think it fits that style better.

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Photo of cjgator3
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle

A- Pours a dark reddish copper color with an off-white head with decent lacing and retention.

S- The aroma is a lot of toasted and biscuity malt, caramel, and dark ripe fruits.

T- The taste starts out sweet and malty with so
E caramel flavors. The finish has some fruitiness and a lingering sweetness with some warmth from the alcohol.

M- The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, this is a decent beer that is worth a try. 

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Photo of beerthulhu
3.55/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Dirty copper-penny coloring is topped off by a sandstone colored head that was frothy and whipped, thin in statue, and quick to dissipate. Fairly strong effervesce lies within with hardly any lace to speak of adoring the glass. Not a lot to go on from a visual sense.

S: The nose brought forth some dried caramel grains, with a laid back strength. Slight hints of ripe fruit skins adds a bit of light fruitiness to the mixture. Reserved in character, especially the alcohol portion which is listed at 10.1% which is hardly detectable.

T: The flavor was rich sweet caramel grains and dried toffee. Light dryness with a bit of dried fruitiness. Ok flavor, not my ideal example. Was expecting some peat or perhaps some light smoky character. The alcohol was hardly detectable as well for its strength.

M: malty, with a quite sense of carbonation. A bit of creamy nature and lush feel when swirled and settled on the tongue finishing off with a nice grain dryness.

D: Drinkability was forgiving enough. Still surprised that this was 10.1% which drank more like a 7% at best. Nice malty character, though not to expansive in the taste spectrum. Have to be careful you don't indulge in more then you should here, the alcohol is very well hidden.

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Photo of gfreed
1.26/5  rDev -63.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

A rotten example of a Scotch ale, and one of the most awful beers I've ever had, this thing is a disgrace to the style. Like a good little Scotch ale enthusiast, I let it warm up for a while before opening it; my reward was a nose full of old vegetables and pink Sweetarts. The taste is sweet, salty and, at the same time, terribly bitter and sour and full of boiled peas. It gained a slightly pleasant malt characteristic after reaching room temperature; otherwise, this is a total and complete failure. If you want a good American Scotch ale, go find yourself a Founders Dirty Bastard.

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Photo of TheFightfan1
3.81/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Clear amber body. Thick ivory colored heading and very alive for a 10% ABV. Good lacing for a little while until it went flat.

Smell is mostly heavily toasted malts with a bit of hoppier notes.

Taste is very much like little brother (Railbender). Heavy caramel toasted malts with a light sugary taste right before the warming alcohol kicks in.

Mouth is super smooth, mid bodied and easy settling.

Again another score from Erie brewing. I am surprised by the much lower rating's when this taste's almost identical to Railbender just with a kick.

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Photo of ZeroSignal
3.21/5  rDev -8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz bottle

A - Pours a dark copper tinged brown, decent sized off-white head for a higher ABV, nice lacing

S - Some sweet, fruity notes with lot's of roasted and caramelized malts. Alcohol present in the fruitiness.

T&M - Medium-full body and dense feeling. Lot's of malt character with a pronounced caramelized note, and a bit of a toasted bread backdrop. Pronounced, fruity alcohol that leaves some warmth behind. Finish also carries a light nutty flavor.

D - All told a pretty decent offering. I'm a big fan of the style, but this seems a hair too boozy. I'd love to see the same beer at about 7.5 ABV.

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Photo of tempest
3.6/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured clear red with a tall light tan head. There's a strong bready toast and crust aroma with a hint of toffee that's a little cleaner than most in the style. The flavor falls a little flat for such a strong beer. There's a earthy spice and creamy candy with the aroma's dark bread grain notes. I suppose it is smooth and easy to drink, but the character just seems muted given the strength.

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Photo of aepb1
2.42/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

A- Nice amber brown body with a lot of frothy white head

S- Sweet? Not much along these lines

T- Gotta check to make sure this is really 10.1% ABV it really doesn't seem like that much... not what I expected. Caramel malty sweetness and not much else... a bit of astringent alcohol in the finish

M- Medium bodied, smooth, good carbonation. Kind of sticky

D- The aftertaste and lack of depth at 10.1% is a bummer and surprising

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Photo of Morey
3.58/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This winter Wee Heavy pours reddish copper in color and has brilliant clarity. Nice two finger off-white head that has pretty decent staying power for a beer so high in alcohol.

Aroma is on the mild side for sure. Typical bread/biscuit like smell for the style. No hops whatsoever.

Taste is slightly fruity up front. Smooth malt character quickly makes itself known. There's just a touch of bitterness on the back end.

Medium bodied smooth mouthfeel.

Alcohol is well hidden, but the high alcohol limits the drinkability on this one.

Morey's Bottom Line: Not my favorite style, but EBC achieves what they're going for here. I'm actually surprised by some of the low reviews on this one. Makes me wonder if people are taking the style into consideration. Being that this IS a winter seasonal, I personally like the high ABV.

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Photo of jkaiser150
2.18/5  rDev -37.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

drank this at 1:15 sunday the 2nd of 2011.
a: carmel brown
s: malty
t: thick malt
m: malty strong one sided
d: no
for a strong scotch ale I think they forgot to add the most important beer ingredient. Goodness. Goodness was missing from this one.
Not a good way to start the new year.

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Photo of jorg2619
3.6/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This Wee Heavy pours an almost too clean and clear red. I mean a brilliant 90 minute boil ruby to a light red color. I poured this big beer into my Duvel Tulip glass. It Looks a little thin for a Wee Heavy. I smell sweet sweet malts. I did not detect anymore than a faint hint of booze smell. I detect no hops which is to style. The first taste is thicker than expected. I taste sweet malts at first followed by roasted flavored malts and some booziness. I did detect some spicy after taste that could have been some hops for balancing but they have been washed out by the booze and malts. I thought Ol Red CAD would be sweet and this beer is just that. I liked it.. I do have to say this is another solid beer by Erie but I think this Wee heavy is a little to one sided to be a home run. I will seek it out again though as it is a solid Wee Heavy which can be hard to come by in my area.

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Photo of FickleBeast
4.05/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Delerium Tremens snifter.

Pours deep mahogany with reddish hues around the edges and a small ring of foam that fades quickly. Aroma is very sweet, toffee, caramel, crystal malt - this is going to be a malt bomb for sure.

First sip is rather pleasant. Sweet, malty flavor, but it finishes surprisingly dry. Some hot alcohol pokes through, but it is smooth for 10% ABV. Hops are non-detectable, as they should be in this style of beer. The clean finish is both a positive and a negative. I like how this isn't cloyingly sweet, but at the same time, the thinner body allows the alcohol burn to come through a little more.

All in all this is a nicely crafted beer. Would get this again.

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Photo of DrDemento456
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark ruby brown with an inch of head that clears rather quickly with just a light lace ring.

S - Doesn't really smell powerful. Very mild caramel sweetness and a bit of roasted malt.

T - Wow the is way thinner than expected. The malt is very thin yet sweet caramel and the ABV is well concealed in fact the most I ever seen a beer of this magnitude which is "Erie" pun intended. Could use more sweetness though...

M - Very medium bodied. If I didn't have the bottle I would swear it was 6-7 percent at the most.

D - Well I don't know. I could use more flavor and this beer seems to be more of a "get drunk" kind of beer since it has a quickly thinning flavor and hardly detectable ABV. I may have it again.

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Photo of Kitt
3.82/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours to pint glass a deep, dark, brown-red. A one finger head dissipates rapidly with weak lacing. A red-straw colored froth.

Aroma a rich, strong, sweet caramel, with heavy fruit undertones.

A heavy, almost malty, caramel. Strong fruit backbone with a bitter background aftertaste that does not linger long.

Rich and heavy. Like a thin syrup.

Alcohol content and heavy mouthfeel will limit consumption.

All in all, quite a good wee heavy. Best left for dessert....note: not WITH dessert, FOR dessert!

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Photo of ryannecas
4.64/5  rDev +33%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a Chimay chalice (my all-purpose beer glass)

Appearance: Amber/Red with a quickly disappearing head. Sticks around as a haze over the surface.

Smell: Caramel, plums, peat. Some alcohol is apparent.

Taste: Much like the taste. Pretty dry. Drinks like a good port.

Mouthfeel: Thinner and drier than I expected for a Wee Heavy. It certainly explains the 10% ABV.

Drinkability: A beer to be sipped slowly, but you can easily get impatient between sips!

Overall Impression: I wasn't expecting this to be good, but wow was I wrong. This is marked as a wee heavy, but it actually reminds me very much of Old Stock Ale and Fuller's Vintage Ale (Old Ales). Less peaty than Traquair House Ale, which was welcome. Dryness is maybe not to style, but was also welcome. This is now my favorite beer that comes in 6-packs.

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Photo of david18
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had a small glass of this at George Keeley's on Manhattan's Upper West side. I'd never heard of this beer before and I liked it quite a lot. Very typical for a scotch wee heavy. Good aroma, great color, outstanding flavor. I will have this again.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.9/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2007 Bottle.

Pours a rich brown in color with a small white head and some lace. Aroma of cherries, malt and alcohol. Flavor is good, malt, brown sugar, vanilla, cherry. The staggering alcohol is deceptively well hidden. Some years have done a good job mellowing this one out. Smooth and full bodied, this makes for a good sipper.

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Ol' Red Cease And Desist from Erie Brewing Co.
3.49 out of 5 based on 268 ratings.
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