Batemans XXXB | George Bateman & Son / Batemans Brewery

Batemans XXXBBatemans XXXB
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Batemans XXXBBatemans XXXB

Brewed by:
George Bateman & Son / Batemans Brewery
England, United Kingdom

Style: Extra Special / Strong Bitter (ESB)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.80%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 01-18-2002

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Ratings: 141 |  Reviews: 99
Photo of scarnold8
2.25/5  rDev -41.6%

Photo of kojevergas
2.31/5  rDev -40%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bottle into Erdinger pint glass at low altitude.

A: Pours a dark gold/light brown. Other reviews describe this beer's colour as copper. I suppose that applies. Three finger thick, creamy head. Quite nice.

Sm: Light clean scent - the usual suspects: barley, hops, some malt.

T: Balanced body. Hint of nut. Bitter finish typical of pale ales.

Mf: Too smooth, too wet. A bit coarser at the finish but this doesn't save it.

Dr: Too costly for its quality. Look elsewhere. Advertised as a pale ale.

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Photo of bditty187
2.61/5  rDev -32.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Clear, bronzy-coppery brown in hue; minor off-white head, at the apex the foam was only a half finger tall. The bubbles quickly faded to a soapy collar. Subsequent lacing was very spotty. Overall, the appearance is decent but hardly noteworthy.

The nose is malty sweet with hints of caramel butter nut popcorn. It is also somewhat earthy with a smattering of fruitiness as well; not much in the way of hops… ESB, eh? I am underwhelmed by the nose. Maybe I am an ugly American but there is nothing in the aroma to get excited about let alone motivate me to take a sip. Moderately low potency; bland.

Slightly metallic caramel butter flavor with some nuts in the background, hints of toffee with a fairly dry finish. Moderate bitterness in the middle; not much fruitiness either, hints of wood but there is little complexity overall. Popcorn flavors in the finish with a faint metallic and butter twang; the aftertaste is of dead vegetables (and after a few drinks this taste becomes overwhelming). Sadly, the palate is doing nothing for me.

Almost medium in body, low carbonation but not unnaturally so; the mouthfeel is average.

Limited drinkability; this is yet another English ale that fails to deliver. If this is one of the best beers in England… then, um, wow. Maybe I got a bad bottle (I don’t think so as my girlfriend, another beer geek, liked it quite a bit). Nevertheless, thank you Howard and Lynne for bringing this back from England for me.

Best by: 24 Jun 08

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Photo of Viceroy
2.75/5  rDev -28.6%

Photo of rastaman
3/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Grainy and gristy as it says on the label, caramel nuts, with a dry tea-like citrus hop finish, none of the ingredients are too well noticed, they're just there and pretty well balanced, if a bit predictable and boring, would probably benefit from cask conditioning (had it from bottle).

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Photo of jnjander
3/5  rDev -22.1%

Photo of ejimhof
3/5  rDev -22.1%

Photo of BeerBelcher
3/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is a really pleasant example of white I find to be a quite boring style of beer. This beer didn't over-deliver on flavor, but had a pleasant flavor and aroma. Not very interesting for craft beer fans, but certainly a not-unpleasant beer. A nice bitter.

Appearance is cloudy and darker than I might have expected. Head faded quickly. Aroma wasn't of hops at first...more biscuit than anything else. Subsequent sniffs as I drank seemed to reveal more hops, but that might have just been my imagination. Flavor is vaguely hoppy, but more metallic (copper) than anything else, with a notable amount of biscuity maltiness. Mouthfeel's a little thin, but that seems to me to be characteristic for this style, so I won't hold it against it.

Not bad, but hardly terrific. This is another English beer my Dad left at my house after his most recent visit. I love free beer, but I can imagine other beers I wish Dad had left instead.

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Photo of brewerburgundy
3.03/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Yellowy red, very scant head, even on a rough pour. Tiny white ring that leaves thin streaky lacing. Red scotch.

Buttery, buttered bread or biscuits. A touch of honeyed sweetness. Low power nose. I'm trying but there just isn't much. Bread yeast.

Butterscotch diacetyl with a twang. Very light grassy matte bitterness. When warmer there is a light caramel evident. I think this brewery's yeast has a "bring on the diacetyl" attitude.

Very light. Barely present carbonation which I like. Thin, but a little more substantial than the multi-grain harvest beer from Bateman's.

Easy to down but not too interesting. As I stated in my other Bateman's review: these came from a discount grocer and I can't postulate as to their age.

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Photo of jonb5
3.1/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Pint at the JDW in Whitehall.

A: Bronze, thin small head, hazy.

S: Only a very faint aroma, but it was malty.

T: Slightly watery, toffee, malt, cranberry, increased bitterness towards the end.

M: Smooth, watery texture.

O: Middle of the road, a bit too strong to session, not too much depth.

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Photo of DavoleBomb
3.12/5  rDev -19%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a perfect pint.

3.0 A: This sure is a dark pale ale. Mildly hazed deep orange brown color. Two fingers of frothy tan head. Retention is average and no lacing is left behind.

3.5 S: Bready malts with caramel and toastiness. This is quite earthy with a noticeable mineral quality. Slight spicy and earthy hop character.

3.0 T: Again, bready malts, caramel, and toastiness. The mineral and iron components are quite strong and a bit offputting. It's not that bad, it just isn't my thing. I prefer cleaner brews. Anyway, earthy and spicy hop flavor with a moderate bitterness.

3.0 M: Medium body. Carbonation level is fine. However, the beer lies a bit heavy on the tongue as it lacks creaminess.

3.0 D: Not a bad brew, but it could use some refinement and some water treatment.

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Photo of froghop
3.12/5  rDev -19%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

pours a clear amber-orange with a medium light beige head, and some lacing.

smell is of cour malt, some spice, earth, some floral, and a touch of caramel.

taste is of soda water, perfume, caramel, and malt, ends slightly dry and slightly bitter.

overall tastes better than it looks.

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Photo of TroyS
3.12/5  rDev -19%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got this one at the Wine Garden in Blackfoot, Idaho. They have a limited selection and aren't very knowledgeable compared the folks in neighboring Pocatello and Idaho Falls. Because of the lack of experience, education and shear volume that the Wine Garden is pushing(small vol.), I'd typically blame something like this on them. The code is one note in their favor plus it's fruggin' chilly out here which makes it much more likely that it has been stored at a decent temp/environment. I wonder who the distributors were. Anyway, skunky brew, but it most likely the brewery or most certainly somewhere else. I'm not personally knowledgeable about Bateman's, but even the best aren't perfect. BTW...Coded 23 SEP 09 S206207A("7" is smudged, so it could be an 8 or 4 or...?) So...from looking at the other reviews I'd guess that this doesn't happen often. A bit disappointing since I did invest 15mins or more strokin' bottles until I settled on this one - Man fridge is fun;) Well...takin' one for the team w/a smile...I'll go pic again;) I'll look forward to trying this one for the first time on another day! Hey...she looked good!

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3.25/5  rDev -15.6%

Photo of thepeter
3.25/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown pour with little head and not much lace. Pale malt, apple, wood, all in the nose. Taste is not as malty as I expected more dry and hoppy bitter with a touch of fruit, apple orchard. Feel was ok, medium light bodied and a heavy carbonatoin for the style. Overall a pretty good dark bitter but one I'd much rather have on cask.

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Photo of laituegonflable
3.3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Ooh yeah, a "XXX" B. How exciting. Poured into a stein, so far slightly lacking in heaving breasts for a "XXX" beer, but I'm still holding out hope. Nice deep red amber clour with very healthy but unpretentious beige head, sinking steadily, leaving some nice clouds of lace around. Strong and steady bead through a clear but dark body. Very English.

Nose is quite sour, with a lot of Goldings hops on there, very herbal, with a spicy tea character. Aspects of caramelly amber malt underlying, light soil character and a bit of creaminess that I've come to associate with English ale yeasts. A little subdued but very pleasant for what it is.

Taste is fairly rich and pleasant, a lot of faintly dark malt gives a boiled fruit or toffeed character to it, herbal hops come through midway, elements of mint and tea leaving wafting out, with a very light tingle of spice on the back, and maybe a slight yeasty character. Similarly spicy linger, quite organic and herbal in its bitterness, which isn't excessive, and in many ways I would say is of a "bitter" quality rather than an "Extra Special Bitter" one.

I think though that the richness of the malt is underused with the mouthfeel being a bit thin, lacking, watery. Little bit of a nip as it goes down but little else.

This is a session beer to be reckoned with, a lot of nice flavours, subtle clean finish, excellent throughout the palate.

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Photo of jujubeast6000
3.3/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed 11/18/2008 (bottle dated 23 Sep 09):

Foaming up as I pop the cap off. Pours A nice clear light brown body. Foamy cream-colored head, good lacing, somewhat lasting.Malty aroma, grainy, hay-like. Some musty spice in the nose. Real biscuity. Pleasant sweet smell. Biscuity taste, malty. A little like toasted bread. Somewhat watery. Sweet aftertaste. Nice session beer. Crisp tasting.

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Photo of russpowell
3.31/5  rDev -14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

No way this will be as good as it was on cask, but worth a try for old times sake. Drank many pints of this in a pub near in Hinton in the Hedges in Oxfordshire...

Pours brown/copper with a finger of of cream colored head. Sheets of lacing & nice head retention as well

S: Figgyness, woody hops & raisins

T: Follows the nose, leafy hops present as well up front. Figs & woody hops dominate as this warms, plus raisins, even a touch of boozeyness. Finishes with fruittyness & leafy hops

MF: Light/medium bodied, smooth carbonation, alright balance. Needs more malt to pull this together

Drinks alright, no where as good as the old cask version I remember

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Photo of flyingpig
3.33/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Orange amber colour with a thin head about a centimetre tall and slightly frothy. It settles to a fine lacing after about thirty seconds though.

Mix of sweetness and biscuit malts along with some vanilla and a hint of fruit and berries. There is an earthy hop aroma.

Some sweet malts in the taste along with some vanilla and a little honey. The beer taste quite sweet with a lot of fruits bended throughout and a bit of biscuit that is rounded of with a creamy and bitter finish.

Quite creamy with a medium to full body and some sweet and earthy notes mixed together and low carbonation.

Not a bad beer really, good and creamy with nice vanilla and even some honey in there. It is a good example of a pale ale & one that went down well.

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Photo of bitterthebetter
3.4/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

pours a hazy copper orange, crisp white head

apples, light malt, slight piney hops

slight malty sweetness followed by slight apple leading to solid pine hops. semi dry hops on the finish followed by more fruit

light bodied, smooth, balanced with the malt starting and the hops finishing it off

smooth, crisp, a british pale with slight malty sweetness

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Photo of srandycarter
3.44/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Pours a murky amber, even an aggressive pour results in fast leaving scant head. Some cling lace and ring remains.

S - Sweet malt and a bit of port. Maybe a little oxidized?

T - Initial malt sweetness, ends almost excessively dry.

M - Somewhat creamy at first, light bodied, good carb.

D - Not one of my favorites. Had a 9.09 date on it. I gather that might be the best by and maybe why it has a bit of a stale port feel to it and doesn't finish the way I had hoped.

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Photo of flagmantho
3.48/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 500mL bottle into a pint glass. Bottle says 5% ABV rather than the above-noted 4.8%.

Appearance: deep copper hue with a light haze and light effervescence. Head is a thick finger of frothy tan foam. I like it!

Smell: malt aroma is very heavy on the caramel and there is only a light touch of earthy hops. Not bad, but it's a bit on the sweet side.

Taste: very caramelly malt flavor with a touch of earthy hops and a mild-to-moderate bitterness. Not bad but a bit sweet.

Mouthfeel: medium-light body with a mild carbonation. A bit on the watery side, sad to say.

Overall: not a bad beer at all, but it's got a boring mouthfeel and isn't my favorite flavor profile. It is moderately refreshing, though, and might not make a bad session beer.

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Photo of leinie13
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

Photo of beerthulhu
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

- Unfortunately as I later found out this is classified as a English brown rather a pale ale as indicated on label.

A: Old coppery-penny color with a bubbly and froamy sandy-beige had of average retention. A spacious macro-bubbly carbonation is stead-fast as it rises providing a fair and average coverage for lace.

S: Biscuity and dry maltiness on the opening aroma. A hint of peppery flower and dry fruit along with a leafy green hopping, vague in distinction that is followed by a trailing dry malt sweetness.

T: Spicy with a dry nutty and malty residue. Silty maltiness with a light peppery nature along with some green leafy character of fennel, tea leafs, and basil. A light fruity nature moves in with a warm holiday spicing. Nice malt-base more so then the hop level (I originally thought this was a pale from the label) with a fruitiness of green melon lying buried beneath the residual malting.

M: Milky feel with a nice tingle of carbonation. Malty lace with a spicy touch on the close.

D: Average enjoyment factor, malty, making for a nice fall style beer but in limited quantities.

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Photo of WHROO
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: golden amber, cloudy. Poured a 1 finger head, with average retention, although maintained a thin blotchy foamy film of froth throughout. Good carbonation & lacing.
S: Sweetness, honey malts, little chocolate, some dark fruits / plum
T: Not a very sweet beer, bitterness dominated as expected. Also a smidgeon of sourness detected too. Some fruits.
M: very sprizty on tongue...& a little thin
D: Felt this is definately one to serve at the right temp (reckon ours was a fraction too chilled) to release some more sweetness to balance this out. Also the palate copped a flogging the night before, so maybe the poor thing was still a little confused. Keen to try again to see if this was the case.

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Batemans XXXB from George Bateman & Son / Batemans Brewery
Beer rating: 68.8% out of 100 with 141 ratings
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