Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu

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Strong Ale - Belgian Dark
4.06 | pDev: 12.07%
Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu
Retired (no longer brewed)
Very Good
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Reviews by TheLongBeachBum:
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TheLongBeachBum from California

4.35/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled from the Tap at Lucky Baldwin’s during their August 20-28 Belgium Beer Festival.
Number #29 on the List.
$3 for a Taster in a small Chimay Goblet Glass.

Now this one was a real turn up for the books, I (rather conceitedly) mistakenly thought that this was the Val-Dieu Bière De Noël until moments before leaving when I overheard someone say it was 10, doesn’t say that on LB’s list and I knew the Bière De Noël was only around 7% so something was afoot and it wasn’t 12 inches…..time to give this one a whirl.

Appearance: Dark brown chestnut body with a lovely creamy vanilla head that sat around for the first 5 minutes but slowly dissolves to a thin yet uniform covering.

Nose: Hazelnuts, dark fruits, plum skins and spices. Alcohol is virulent in the backend and reminds you that this is a double-digit brew.

Taste: Lots of rich dark fruits and Xmas spices meld into a fantastic middle that blends yet more spice variants, chocolate, nuts, liquorices, malts, toast, chocolate covered digestive biscuits, figs and a little prune juice in the finish. The ending has a high alcohol kick that stays around.

Mouthfeel: Super smooth with a finely dissolved carbonation. Sits nicely in the mouth and caresses the tongue, it needs to, the high grade pure alcohol is here for sure but the Tastes and Mouthfeel really help to take the edge of the kick.

Drinkability: Well it may well be 10.5% but gracious me it doesn’t drink this high, the nose entices you, the tastes enthrall and the Mouthfeel retains long term interest. Very nice. Good job I was leaving after this one.

Overall: Damn tasty I have to say, it seems that this 10.5% Winter is also bottled as well…..yet the BA Avatar has the same/similar label as the Val-Dieu Bière De Noël (7%)…the confusion this creates is annoying….is this a “souped-up” version of the standard Xmas brew!?! Maybe? Whatever it is, was, or maybe, it is well worth trying.

Aug 25, 2005
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puboflyons from New Hampshire

3.64/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

From a corked, caged 750 ml bottle stamped 22/07/22. Sampled Dec 4, 2020,

Golden appearance with a constant streaming upwardly mobile carbonation erupting with a lacing-leaving ivory head.

The aroma has a caramel malt presence, clove and spices, Belgian yeast, but a kind of distracting soapiness.

Smooth, medium or better mouthfeel.

The taste is a pleasing caramel malt sweetness with a hint of spice, pepper and a dry finish. Except for that soapiness, it was an easy drinking beer.

Dec 04, 2020
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BeerForMuscle from New Jersey

4.11/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Jan 24, 2020
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Pivopijak from Washington

3.84/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

bottle into glass
Fine mousse white head with sustain. Medium light golden orange with a touch of haze. Subtle, floral, cardamom? aroma. Light malty, fruity note to the flavor. Medium/light bodied with a quick finish, with the faintest trace of the cardamom/floral characteristics.

Jan 10, 2021
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TheLiterati from California

3.46/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a goblet a deep, rich brown. Smells of fruit - raisins and grapes as another BA mentioned. I also agree with that BA's assessment of this ale having a soda-like aroma. Sweet on the nose and the palate, but not necessarily cloying.

Mouthfeel is smooth as is the taste. Nothing overwhelmingly outstanding, but a good solid strong, dark ale.

Feb 16, 2008
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RoyalT from Ohio

4.42/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance – This one is a dark, blackish-brown in color. I wasn’t able to get much of a head on the first pour but by the time I got to the bottom of the bottle it was working.

Smell – The solid bready malts define the nose of this ale. The traditional Belgian dark fruits are here in spades along with a light chocolate and a warning of alcohol.

Taste – Well, where to start? The yeast steps back a bit. The fruits are enormous and very complex. I won’t list every dark fruit that I can think of, but they all show up in this flavor profile. They are mixed with some serious alcohol, too. The dark malt actually comes in at the end, which is unusual.

Mouthfeel – This one is almost full-bodied with some nice, fluffy carbonation and a noticeable alcohol slap in the mouth.

Drinkability – This was a solid BSDA that had two faults. First, the head could have been better. Second, the alcohol was just a bit too sharp for the style. Less those two concerns this beer was damn near perfect.

Feb 05, 2005
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Crosling from Colorado

3.77/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Burgundy color, with a full and creamy foam that lasts. Lightly aromatic, with hints of burnt popcorn, brandy, dark fruit (plum) and the attributes of Belgian Yeast. Flavor is very rich and full, with extremely well hidden alcohol, fruit, chocolate and Belgian yeast. Not complex, nor polite, but quite tasty.

Mar 26, 2006
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merlin48 from Kentucky

3.95/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark, but clear, chestnut body that appears ruby mahogany when held to the light. Lots of bubble activity going on in the goblet. Smallish offwhite head leaves profuse patchy lace. The aroma has lots of fusel dark fruits, spicy clove and nutmeg, and a note of black licorice. Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied, with medium carbonation and an alcohol bite. Taste has lots of dark fruits, with prunes being most apparent. Some Concord grapes are also noted. Anise, or black licorice, is prominent in a spicy array that also includes some clove and nutmeg. Drinkability is decent, and this is a well crafted Belgian Winter Ale. Similar to other Val Dieu offerings, but this one seemed to have more of a spicy anise component.

Feb 17, 2005
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PorterLambic from Florida

4.7/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours a mahogany brown with a big, fluffy, light tan head (bad pour by yours truly) that left an island of foam floating til the bottom of the glass with great lace all around it. Smell is sweet, fruity (white grape), malty, some spice (ginger & nutmeg). Taste is malty, sweet, white grapes, nutmeg & ginger spices, earthy, and some alcohol smooth and late.Great balance and complexity. I was pleasantly surprised by the grape note to this beer. Unexpected but exquisitely well done. Mouthfeel is full-bodied, smooth, creamy, chewy and pleasantly warming without being overpowering. Drinkability is top of the chart! I could drink this all day long. The 10.5% ABV is not noticeable at all, drinks like 6-7% tops. Spice could be a bit more noticeable in the smell and taste. Not a bad thing to be found anywhere in this brew. This is an truly amazing beer. If you like any of Val-Dieu's other offerings, you must try this!

Jan 11, 2005
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BuckeyeNation from Iowa

4.65/5  rDev +14.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

What is the value in putting a 'best by' date on the cork when it can't be seen until the cork is pulled from the bottle? This one reads 07/07. Good thing I decided to drink it today and not next winter.

Murky chestnut with orange and amber edges. The khaki colored head is of high quality, but doesn't have the typical, rocky Belgian ale look. It's densely creamy and melts rather than deflates. There's also a tremendous amount of thick, spackle-like lace that is probably my favorite part of the appearance.

The nose is intensely dark fruity with raisins, plums and figs coming immediately to mind. It smells more sour than sweet, a situation that I hope is reversed on the palate. Spices are present as well, with a particularly funky cloviness front and center. Complex doesn't even begin to describe the aroma.

Val-Dieu Winter is darker and richer and thicker than I was expecting. Is there such a style as Imperial Belgian Strong Dark Ale? It looks like we'll have to invent it to describe this wonderful beer. Like the nose, complexity is the operative word on the palate. It's a good thing I have 750 ml to figure this one out.

There's at least half again as much malt as in most versions of the style. Each mouthful simply oozes with dark malty goodness. As a result, the tanginess that I appreciated in the nose is still present, but sweetness easily overtakes it and is, by far, the dominant flavor sensation. As far as flavors themselves, I'm still not sure that I can identify them all. How do those Belgians brew such amazingly complex beer? I'm guessing that witchcraft plays a role.

I'm tempted to compare Val-Dieu to a dark holiday fruitcake. The flavor profile consists of roasted malt, cocoa, darkest caramel, black currants, dates, figs, tobacco and clove. Oh yeah, and a few huge scoops of candi sugar. It really doesn't matter in what circumstances one enjoys a world-class beer such as this, but it occurs to me that the optimal situation would be as an after dinner treat, in place of dessert. In other words, as the beer version of a tawny port (which it resembles by the way).

Truthfully, I didn't notice any alcohol until I went looking for it. It's easily identified, but is such a well-buried contributor that it deserves stealth status. One expects to taste alcohol and to feel its spreading warmth in port wine, so why shouldn't one expect and enjoy the same in a port wine-like beer? I have a sneaking suspicion that Winter will be good long after 07/07.

The mouthfeel is the best of both worlds. It's as big, as thick and as lush as the finest Imperial stouts, yet it manages to convey the lightness (to some extent at least) of the finest Belgian ales. It's a hard line to straddle, which makes its success at doing so all the more remarkable.

I had no idea how good this beer is. It's been sitting in a box in a corner of my cellar for at least a year and I'm sure I've passed it by more than once while awaiting the onset of winter. Well Winter has arrived and I couldn't be happier. I might just light a fire tonight and I might just pour the rest of the bottle into a snifter. This outstanding offering from Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu deserves nothing less.

Dec 06, 2006
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Sammy from Canada (ON)

3.95/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This reportedly is the Grand Cru. It pours a muddy brown with little head. It is about three years old and so understated carbonation. Overall pleasant, and a drying rich taste. Definite dark fruit, pepper, and cocoa, well balanced. Medium mouthfeel.

Sep 16, 2007
WOLFGANG from South Carolina

4.5/5  rDev +10.8%

Jul 04, 2013
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brentk56 from North Carolina

3.42/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a burnt caramel brown body with a thick tan head; excellent retention and lacing

Smell: An awful lot of yeast in the aroma (reminds me of proofing baker's yeast); some grape and caramel odors in the background

Taste: As with the aroma, the yeast flavor is very prominent and somewhat overwhelms the caramel malt, grape and dark fruit; mid-palate strkes a strong herbacious bitter flavor (perhaps there are some seasonal spices in there, too) which, however, provides balancing complexity with milk chocolate flavors through to the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with lots of carbonation; warming alcohol appears on the finish

Drinkability: Complex and different; not my favorite BSDA because of the yeast profile, but intriguing nonetheless

Jan 28, 2006
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GClarkage from California

4.62/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

04/13/06- Had on tap at the Toronado in San Francisco, CA during Belgian Beer Month.

Presentation- Via the tap into a tulip style glass.

Appearance- Brown and a touch mahagoney. Light 1/4 inch frothy head. Decent lacing.

Smell- Nice dark fruit scented brew. Grapes, figs and dates. Maybe some winter spices thown in as well...cloves?

Taste- Heavy grape flavor. Dates and figs combine to make a very dark and mildly sryupy sweet taste. A nice roasted dark sweet malt under all the fruit.

Mouthfeel- Not super syrupy, but a touch thick. Lower carbonation. Slides down your throat.

Drinkability- Super easy drinker. Wonderful flavor and high recommended.

Apr 14, 2006
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Raymond69 from Ohio

4.08/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 06/06, Edit:
Just realized this is the best before date and re-evaluated the hit I gave it for mouthfeel.

Pours a dark hazy reddish brown , very little head, minimal amounts of lacing.

Smell is slightly yeast, some caramel,.

This beer has a sweet, grape-like taste to it. The hops balance out the sweetness almost perfectly.

This beer has a thick sweet mouthfeel. This particular bottle might be a little off because the carbonation is a little low.

Overall this beer has great drinkability for a high ABV beer. I kinda wished I'd saved this for the winter, but loved it nonetheless.

Jul 23, 2007
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jettjon from Florida

4.33/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

OK, it’s a cold winter night (well as cold as it gets here in Florida), and It’s time for a good Belgian Strong Dark ale. Presented in a caged-cork 750ml bottle, best before date on cork 10/07. I actually had to use a corkscrew on this one; that’s a rarity. Slight pop as the cork is extracted. Into the tulip, served at about 45 degrees.

Pours a very dark, practically opaque brown/black with a reddish tint when held to a light. Somewhat vigorous pour yields a solid fingers-worth of tan foam that fades slowly leaving solid sheets of lacing in its wake. Damn fine looking beer. Nose of sweet dark fruits, lightly bready malt and boozy alcohol. Cherry syrup. A bit of peppery spice in there as well. I’m betting that the nose really intensifies with warming. Tastes very well balanced with a combination of sweet, fruity malts matched against a subdued hop background with a firm alcohol presence. Damn fine dark ale flavor. Wine-like flavor complexity. Bitter, dry finish. Mouth is nicely balanced between a viscous, slick wetness and moderate, lively carbonation. Drinkability is excellent; I will be sipping this 10.5% ABV beverage all night.

Overall: An exemplary strong dark, and damn fine beer by any measure. Highly recommended.

Jan 29, 2007
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beerogre from New York

4.25/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Once again my senses are treated to the extravagance that is the Belgian Strong Dark Ale. This is yet another fine example of the style.

My first few sips reminded me immediately of the Ommegang version, with the bready taste initially most noticeable but then it began to take me in a sweeter, more licoricey direction, though not to the extent of some, such as Gouden Carolus Carolus D'Or - Cuvée Van De Keizer.

I don't think the mouthfeel is quite there so much as in some of its peers, but what it may lose here it easily picks up in the drinkability category.

All in all a very decent effort, if not quite Top of the Class.

Dec 24, 2006
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Rochefort10nh from New Hampshire

4/5  rDev -1.5%

Nov 25, 2011
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rallison from California

4.55/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

A: Beautiful ruby red black with a 1 finger off-white head that leaves some nice lacing.

S: Mmmm, tasty dark fruits. Raisins, plums and yumminess.

T: Delicious. Port soaked raisins, plums and some other sweeter fruits and flavors that I can't quite place. A bit of Candi Sugar sweetness, with just a touch of alcohol. Wonderfully rich and delicious.

M: Perfect. Nice bit of carbonation to keep this 10.5% light enough, but with a perfectly rich coating too. Nice.

D: Extremely drinkable. 10.5%? This is how you do a beer of this gravity. I could drink this all day.

Highly recommended. One excellent winter beer.

May 16, 2007
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ygtbsm94 from Utah

4/5  rDev -1.5%

Jan 05, 2012
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clickpush from Pennsylvania

4.61/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pour: 750ml bottle to tulip glass. Comes out with a half inch tan head over a dark, cherry-wood colored body. Lots of bubbles active throughout, and the head clings to the glass on it's descent, leaving great lacings both on the walls and over the surface of the beer.

Nose: Chalky & sour, chocolate and very dry cocoa powder. Faint but attractive.

Mouth: Super malty, sweet & sour. Faint sour notes immediately upon entering the mouth give way to lots of sweet fruity esters as it moves back: plums and sour cherries, brown sugar. Mouthfeel is superbly carbonated all the way back, sparkly and creamy at the same time.

Dec 06, 2006
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Beauregard from Maryland

4.35/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Mahaffey's recently during the wonderful winter beer months. I was extcited to see it on tap and find out how it compared to my favorite Belgians, so I quickly ordered and received a *very* generous serving in a goblet glass. Now, some beers loosely adhere to their style; in this case, the Val Dieu lives up to its "strong dark" title in every way. Beautiful, intimidating rich dark color with creamy head and noticable carbonation. Medium-body feels smooth in your mouth until the prominent alcohol taste hits you. At the same time, this beer is quite flavorful, with malt and fruit sweetness that balances things out nicely. Deep taste that is very drinkable despite its strength. I'd say it ranks as one of my favorite Belgians.

Mar 20, 2006
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Stoutsman from Kansas

2/5  rDev -50.7%

Jan 14, 2012
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ccrida from Oregon

3.6/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml poured into my Gouden Carolus goblet, the Winter abbey is a hazy deep Garnet with a small, creamy, off-white head that leaves foamy sheets of lace. Served at cellar temp, this year's vintage.

Smell is fruity and one dimensional, like grape soda. Soft, to reserved for my taste.

Taste, actually, is pretty much the same, grape soda wise. But I really like grape soda...especially when it's packing 10.5%! This is a really sugary quad, loads of red wine and raisin, with a nice rumminess. Lacking complexity but enjoyable nevertheless.

Mouthfeel is light, highly digestible. The sugar coating in the mouth is thick.

Drinkability is high if you can handle the sugar and don't mind the thin fruitiness, but this is strong and rich by any standard, it's probably much better with a year or two on it, and good enough that I'll grab 1 or 2 more and try.

Dec 22, 2007
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Beerzebub from California

4.3/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Very dark brown color. Quarter inch of beige head mostly dissipates, but leaves sticky patches of Havarti-like lace.

Smells of sweet toffee and caramel, grapes, raisins, prunes, black figs, floral honey, solventy rummy alcohol.

Tastes fairly sweet, pleasant smooth cane sugar flavor. Fresh dark grapes, papaya, dried fruit, floral honey, caramelized sugar, milk chocolate, bread crust, coriander, cinnamon. Some aspect of fortified wine: port, sweet Marsala. Subtle roastiness and mildly bitter astringency helps balance the sweetness and alcohol. Alcohol is forthright, but manages not to overwhelm. It works, fairly cohesive.

Silky mouthfeel, with fine carbonation, but becomes thin. Some astringency, like grape skins. Very drinkable, considering.

Good interesting beer. For the style and the alcohol content, the dark sugars and dark malts seem restrained, white sugar must be a major ingredient. It makes for a relatively light and drinkable Belgian strong dark ale, despite the sweetness - the high gravity beer version of a good snickerdoodle?

Jan 10, 2007
Winter from Brasserie de l'Abbaye du Val-Dieu
Beer rating: 88 out of 100 with 41 ratings