Saison De Pipaix | Brasserie à Vapeur

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Saison De PipaixSaison De Pipaix
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Brewed by:
Brasserie à Vapeur
Belgium | website

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 04-16-2002

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253
Avg:
3.69
pDev:
19.24%
 
 
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Photo of Halcyondays
4.15/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Beachwood I,

A: Pours a burnt orange with a medium white head, some solid lace and head retention.

S: Mint, fungus, truffle, with some medicinal character. A unique smell even in saisons.

T: Mint and fungus with a lot of citrus. Some mango as well. Very rustic, full-flavoured, a great food pairing beer.

M: Moderate tartness and acid, crisp, medium-bodied, nice carbonation.

O: One of my old favourites, so it's nice to revisit it. A striking different beer for the adventurous beer drinker.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.2/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle poured into a De Struise chalice. No bottle information.

Appearance - Pours with a nice, but not necessarily fluffy, off-white head. Settles quickly and without event into just a couple of bubbles and hardly a collar of foam. The occasional archipelago of lace still clings to the side. The body is a clear apple cider (after drinking this, I have apples on the brain) with some floaties.

Smell - Apples upon apples. A slight musty yeast to it and a touch of spiciness. It's really all apples though.

Taste - Sweet malt and fruity apple flavors. It gets bready almost immediately and then everything succumbs to the apples. The finish has a little bit of spice and some alcohol.

Mouthfeel - It's light. Not really spritzy due to some idle carbonation. Easy to drink, though.

Overall - It's uninteresting, but easy to drink. Tons of apples. It makes me think it's some sort of off-flavor, but it isn't unpleasant. Just monotonic.

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Photo of ColForbinBC
3.58/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750mL bottle poured into a tulip; 2002 Vintage

Thanks to Keanlacrosse for the share

The body is a rather clear orange with a foamy ecru cap. Some nice spider web lacing clings to the glass as the cap fades. The nose is of bright lemons, pepper, and musky funk. Fairly straightforward. On the palate, prickly lemons leap while musty, earthy, dank, funk rolls in mid-palate. Some granny smith apples and green pear juice bring a sweetness in the finish, mixing with a bit of white pepper. An interesting flavor profile. Light bodied, crisp, and refreshing. I wasn't in love with the overall profile, but this was a good offering. I would seek this out again, great for a bottle share.

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Photo of spicelab
3.19/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330mL. Ridiculously overfilled - literally 1mm below the cap.

Hazed cumquat with a white finger of above average density for the style. Falls to a raised collar, with a moderately vigorous bead.

Leads with bright, tropical punchbowl aromas of honeydew, watermelon, peaches and curacao, before the sweetness is gradually reined in by lemon zest, green apple, ginger and heather, doughy yeast and a mellow mustiness. Impressively coherent despite the busy-ness.

Taste is mainly about a blunt cidery tartness, which all but obliterates the individual clarity in the aroma profile. Plenty of random spice here and there, and notes of mint and herbal freshness, but it's not obvious what its role is.

Medium, slightly oily, with lightly buzzy carbonation. Transitions to a moderately tart finish.

Almost gave the nose a five, but the flavours mash together into an inchoate hulk. Pity.

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Photo of tobelerone
2.82/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

2002 vintage, 750ml bottle shared with my wife during a broiling backyard barbeque. This beer turned out not to be the interesting but crisp refresher we were hoping for. Apparently and anecdotally there were tremendous batch and vintage variations and our bottle alas was not one of the better ones. Not much sign of carbonation upon popping the cork; pours a completely hazed over apricot color without head or lacing. Odd aroma with a bit of oxidation; some tart lemon; pepper; sweet bready malts; hay and barn funkiness. Not super appealing.

Unfortunately the taste confirms the nose; slight oxidized wet cardboard, some tart lemony notes that don’t save the beer; black pepper, vague spices, and bready malt without much sweetness. Still, doesn’t dry up enough. Acidic and with touches of hay and funk muddled in with the rest of the flavors. Maybe some green apple skins as well. Kind of hangs there in the mouth. Very little carbonation, medium to slightly thin body; lifeless. Not quite a drainpour, but close. An interesting experiment and thankfully an inexpensive one, but not an experience I’d want to repeat either.

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Photo of DenverLogan
3.53/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer has been around for many years, and I've had it many times and often at a decent price point. Drinking a bottle currently. Gold copper with minimal fuzziness. Big aroma of liquorice and funk. Flavor punctuated with big carbonation, lemon, funk, and orange. A touch of minerals, fruit rind, and lime.

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Photo of Filosoof
2.36/5  rDev -36%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This was an unlucky weekend. Tasting Texelse Skuumkoppe: sour headache beer-a so called whitebeer. Today I tasted this one. Another headache beer-being called a saison.

Is it fate that this awful saison tastes almost identical to the whitebeer of yesterday? This beer has nothing nothing nothing to do with saison. Elementary to saison is the good hopping. This one hasn't any!

The label talks about ginger and lemon rasp as ingredients. It is sour indeed but not plaisant.

Unfortunately the second bottle to throw away this weekend.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.31/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Like caramel apples? Then you'll love this beer!

But first, the beer opens with a yeasty amber color with the signature Belgiany haze. A part-froathy, part spritzy head caps the beer with stark white foam. Reducing to a thick sheet, the beer climbs the walls of the glass with intricate patterns of lace. Very bubbly, the beer simply looks lively, nearly as if champagne.

A mix of apple and apple pie aromas carry a mix of red apples, green apples, bruised apples, crabapples (am I leaving out any apples out there?). Bready with a biscuity crust, caramel, cinnamon, clove, and white pepper deliver the bredth of aromas that make up the beer.

Much can be said of the narrowly defined flavor spread- apples, apples, and more apples. Red and bruised varieties give a decidedly cider taste along with the spicy and sweetness of glaze and cinnamon found in apple pies. Light honey and spicy alcohols seem somewhat mead or white wine in comparison.

Medium and very bubbly, the beer has the dry-effervescent prickle of peppery carbonation and alcohol warmth that makes the beer effortless and drinkable.

Certainly a must-try for any fan of apple flavor in beer. But the off-kilter balance of one-sided fruity flavor doesn't allow the esters to develop the complex fruit notes that would have otherwise round out the beer better. Apple character takes away also from the peppery spice and the needed hop flavor and bitterness and leaves the beer lacking true 'Saison' flavor. The apple flavor here (acedaldehyde) is a certain distraction for me, to the point that it degrades the beer severely.

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Photo of charlzm
3.99/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Consumed at Blue Palms Brewhouse, Hollywood CA on January 27, 2012. Listed as 7% ABV on menu board.

Beer is a cloudy medium brown with a small and very fine foam head that provides barely-sticky lacing.

Aroma is tropical fruit and a touch of wheat bread.

Flavor is like fresh wheat bread up front. The middle brings white peaches and mangos (or perhaps the papayas the beer is named for?) and the finish has more bitterness than expected. Not terribly complex, but refreshing and tasty. Lacking in tartness and spice, but it'as not really missed.

Sort of wet up front and dry on the finish. Nice trick!

Overall - mark this in the "win" column.

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Photo of mlazzaro
3.65/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Fairly high carbonation. The cream color head wore off very quickly. Amber in color, very clear. Smell is very mild but it smells good - orangy and spicey. Not sure if I'm picking up on yeast or spices, which I think is a good thing. Taste is very unique. Citrus + bitter orange flavor - reminiscent of 'witbier' spices. Pleasant tartness - lactic in flavor. Pilsner grainy flavored malt body. Also some cork or wood flavors, which almost masks a mild oxidization flavor. Overall enjoyable unique saison.

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Photo of dbmernin83
4.23/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours an amber tinted golden with a pillowy white head.
A slightly tart and delicious saison. Big carbonation with a light sour tart make this the real champagne of beers. Tart apple, with the normal farmhouse funk. A great beer, unlike most saisons I've ever had.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.01/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer has a very clear soft slightly aged copper colored body with a beige head that last a bit and a gentle carbonation of microbubbles.

S- The soft fusel white plastic aroma has some soft berry esters to follow but it is otherwise pretty clean in the aroma.

T- The brassy bite as a white wine characteristic with some cider and green apple notes. It becomes even more dry in the finish. There is a grapefruit pith note with a dry sugar note and some sherry hints linger with a slight tang to them.

M- The medium-light mouthfeel is crisp with a tight soft fizz and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- This beer has some odd off flavors and no yeast character or malt flavors. It was ok to drink but too dry and tart. I don't know if this beer is old or just how the brewer intended but it is not for me.

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Photo of vfgccp
2.08/5  rDev -43.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Couldn't find a date on the bottle.

A – Light maple amber. Off-white head has great lace and nice retention.

S – Overripe fruit with a sour overtone. Unfortunately the combination came off as rancid on my nose, but two of the tasters with me didn’t get the same effect. Brackish, salty notes deep in the nose.

T – Opens with guava and tart apricot, but a salty mid profile quickly overtakes the sweetness. A rancid funk creeps up behind the salt, with a sour, lemon acidity. This bottle has to have gone bad.

M – Medium body with a lingering salty, semi-sweet finish. Low carbonation.

O – Unfortunately, it looks like this got contaminated on its way to my glass.

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Photo of jslot38
2.93/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

No date marked on the bottle unfortunately. 750ml bottle to GL oversized snifter.

Appearance: Dark russet orange, touch of ruby. Head is white and circles around the edge of the glass.

Smell: Aroma is very muted, faint spices over top a musty malt.

Taste: Fairly rustic. Not as refined as some of the more popular versions of the style. The yeast doesn't take a hold of this beer as much as saison yeasts tend to. Lacking is the refreshing lemon and pepper flavors. In its place is a muddled mix of biscuit and faint coriander. In the back is a touch of barnyardness that barely manages to distinct this beer as a saison and not an ESB.

Mouthfeel: Fairly strong carbonation, but not as lively as some saisons. Doesn't detract from the beer though.

Overall: The beer gets better as it warms, and some more of spices come out. Still, it lacks complexity. A good example of the more rustic and less refined versions of saisons that were likely popular when this recipe was first created.

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Photo of CashMoneyVagrant
3.74/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Orange, clear in color with only a faint head of white foam.

Very strange in the nose. Has a weird crayon or melted wax aroma to it. Stale citrus, oranges and melon. Smells like a mixture of fresh sliced English cucumbers, honeydew, cantaloupe and melon rinds. Chalky, green herbal nose with some black pepper. I can't pick out any one herb. It just has that fresh, green garden smell to it.

Flat in the taste, with almost no carbonation. Kinda musty. Fruity, with some black pepper spiceyness. I really taste melon rinds and English cucumbers now as the beer begins to warm. There's really no carbonation at all, pretty flat and thin in the mouth. Has that crayon, melted wax character along with the green, herbalness. Which now has me thinking of tomatoes and wet spring earth. The fruit flavors are starting too really take hold in this beer. Lots of melon rind, English cucumber with new flavors of plum, figs and apples. Some vanilla, flower nectar, sugar taste as well. Dry and tart in the finish.

I was told this beer had arrived at the store only a couple weeks prior and was made this year. I've seen the older vintage bottles and I could not find any information on this bottle indicating the year. They did have the 1996 vintage there as well which was labeled with the date. That said I would not age this beer and try to get it as fresh as possible.

A very unique, odd tasting saison.

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Photo of iguenard
2.45/5  rDev -33.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

1995 bottle aged 10 years, from Vapeur's cellars.

( 19/50, 6% alc/vol, Home) Nicely lacey head of pearl drops to a disc within a few seconds. A brass colored ale with a minute suspended 'dust' of sediment. Small amount of carbonation. Heavily corked aromas, lightly soured, and a wee bit malted. Hard to grab anything else since the beer has aged through the cork, all the way to the metal cap. Apple cider, sour and moist cork. Soured and corked saison. Dry and metallic, yet very hoppish saison that has seen a few seasons too much. Sour, metallic and acidic mouthfeel that evidently shows it's age. Dry cardboard paperry and grapeskin sour. Although the taste is quite interesting, the age of this brew has it tasting paperry, mettalic, corked and dusty. Aged in the bottle for 10 years. Blended with a younger saison could have yielded something special. This however, is a ruined ale.

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Photo of macpapi
3.65/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a 750 of this brew at my local bottle shop, having heard nothing about it in advance.

Pours a beautiful burnt-orange color. There is a very thin and quickly dissipating white head, leaving behind the aura of crisp autumn days.

On the nose, there is a potent whiff of sour and tart essences. Cherry is prominent, along with hints of green apple, and a bit of grape. Also a bit of funk and flecks of freshly mown grass are both present. There is a lot going on here.

Taste is a bit tart and pretty funky, with a low hop profile. Initial fresh wheat pull is quickly overwhelmed by sour, yet not overpoweringly so, flavor. I am not a sour beer lover, and was not turned by the strong presence of cherry and apple fruitness on the palate. There is also a somewhat cloying honey sweetness. Completed with a pretty dry finish.

Low carbonation, and cloying tartness define the mouthfeel. Somewhat dry on the whole as well.

This is a nice change of pace from most of the saisons I have tried. A bit more sour than most, funk to at the very least match the mid-range of the style, and much more fruitness than average. Is it a great saison? Probably not. Still, for this saison-lover Saison De Pipaux is a nice and drinkable beer. Low abv makes it easy to enjoy the entire bottle by yourself. Also not bad to share with someone who has an open mind, and is willing to try a different sort of beer.

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
3.22/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2003 vintage. Thanks to Jeremy (JAXSON) for this fossil of a beer and what I'm sure will be a unique experience. There's dust all over the bottle (which I cleaned off) and even the cap is rusting. Poured from a 11.2oz capped and corked bottle into Lost Abbey stemware.

A: Cork comes out without so much as a plop. Beer pours nearly flat with a single layer of coarse white bubbles that sits atop a semi-clear orange-peach brew. Great head retention though. Lacing is apotty with no cling but real nice legs. Lack of head formation hurts but given the age, its not bad. Stunning color though.

S: Nose is very unique... and not in a good way. Hints of cork, cherry puree, spice, and an uncleaned public restroom. Yup... now that's what I call funky. Notes of crap (literally) and cooked blood. Very subtle and I'm glad since the aroma is so off-putting... it makes me not even wanna take a sip.

T: Opens sweet cherry spice, mint, wet wood, and metal. Pretty enjoyable actually until the middle which tastes like a sour cherry (which I appreciate) bloody nose (which I don't). Dries a bit at the finish with a metallic taste coming in again along with a puckering red fruit tartness. Blood fades only to come back in the aftertaste and cling to my palate. I'm very torn about the taste here. On the one hand, the sour part of this beer is one of the best I've come across in a long time... on the other hand, tasting blood in a beer just can't be right.

M: Light to medium bodied and as flat as a traditional lambic. Oily and filmy in the mouth and smooth and puckering going down with a dry finish and a lingering aftertaste. I tend to really like flat or almost flat beers so this scores highly even though its totally against the style.

D: The trader who gave me this told me that it would either taste like a) Aged supplication or b) a bloody nose... I can totally see where he's coming from and I get a bit of both in this one. The sour part is very very good but the bloody part is just awkward. In addition, the smell is absolutely atrocious. Still, I'd give this another shot just to see where the true flavor lies in the spectrum it presents.

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Photo of avalon07
2.27/5  rDev -38.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a murky brown color and a slightly hazy consistency. There was no head at all. No lacing to speak of either.

S: An average aroma of malt and mild spices. very little dynamism.

T: Tasted of malt and a little spice, but mainly this was a thin watery brew. Very little flavor or personality at all. None of the typical Belgian yeast or barnyard funk we've come to expect from a saison. Didn't taste like the style at all.

M: Almost no carbonation with a watery, flat finish. Light-bodied.

D: I wonder what happened with this bottle of beer, because it has been reviewed rather well on this site. Hard to believe considering it's undrinkable.

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Photo of Meeg
2.41/5  rDev -34.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Completely flat. Tried at the Winking Lizard in Bedford, OH. I asked if there was a problem with the beer, and was told by the beer "expert" that all of them had been coming out that way and that I shouldn't have been sold the bottle. They kindly credited me.

I tried drinking the beer, and if it had any level of carbonation it may have been enjoyable. The star anise was very up-front, but no ginger, as had been advertised, was to be found. Other than that, nothing else of note.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
4.12/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by mdfb79. Thanks Dan!

Vintage 1995

This beer is hazy and yellow with a small white head and little carbonation evident. Nearly two decades in the bottle could be largely responsible for the reduced carbonation level, methinks. The aroma is fantastic, and strongly resembles an authentic Belgian gueuze. So far so good. The flavor doesn't quite live up to the promise of the aroma, but I found the beer to be quite tasty nonetheless. Funk and barnyard flavors are there, but not as grandiose as the smell would indicate. The beer seems to have held up rather well after sixteen years of aging. Overall, this was a fun beer to try and I would be interested to sample a younger, or perhaps fresh, bottle.

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Photo of drabmuh
3.87/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

1995 vintage shared by Dan, thanks.

Beer is yellow and hazy with a white head, haloed and minimal lacing and low carbonation.

Aroma is lactic and acetic, smells like a gueuze almost.

Beer smells much much better than it tastes. Beer is stale tasting, sourness is minimal, the finish is nice but overall after the aroma it was a disappointment.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.02/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From 01/22/11 notes. Brought to a tasting, 1995 vintage.

a - Pours a clear golden color with 2 inches of white head and light carbonation evident,

s - Smells of sour fruits, spice, yeast. Reminds me of a Drie Fonteinen gueuze. Really enjoyable

t - Tastes ok, of spice, lgith fruit, and yeast, as well as slightly metallic and cardboard. A definite step down from the nose.

m - Medium body and almost no carbonation, very light. Very easy to drink.

d - I thought this was a very drinkable beer with an amazing smell. The taste didn't hold up quite as much as the smell, but I enjoyed it none the less. Interested to see what other vintages taste like.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.09/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by mdfb79--thanks, Dan! 1995 vintage served in a snifter.

Pours a moderately-darkened golden color with a thin white head and not really any retention or lacing. Can't fault it too much given the age. The nose brings forward some really nice funky notes with a lot of barnyard. There's also a bit of burnt rubber in the background, though it works. The rubbery component is stronger in the taste, which also isn't nearly as gueuze-like as the nose was. Body is medium with a really dry finish. It's also ever-so-slightly metallic, though all around drinks quite well and has held up nicely.

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Photo of beerdepartment
2.86/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A 1995 bottle. Probably not cellared properly. Cork sunk into bottle. Empty bottle has residual stain on it with upright beer mark. Saison, from what I've heard, is not the best at sitting for 15 years before being drunk.

Rim of bubbles along the rim. Rich gold by a candle.

Smells a little pruney, little saison funk, orange cheesy.

Tastes doggy or "canine" (as D.O. says); geuzy; tart with less bitter.

Watery juice mouthfeel.

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Saison De Pipaix from Brasserie à Vapeur
3.69 out of 5 based on 253 ratings.
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