Vapeur Cochonne | Brasserie à Vapeur

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Brasserie à Vapeur

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002

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5/5  rDev +46.2%

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5/5  rDev +46.2%

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5/5  rDev +46.2%

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4.75/5  rDev +38.9%

Photo of ballewblake
4.7/5  rDev +37.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up at New Beer in NYC.

Poured from bottle into the breweries nude female pig glass. Average pour gave it a one and a half finger white head on a light amber brew. Chunk of yeast that settled on the bottle also went into the glass. Yummy. Getting lots of honey on the nose, really mild hops, sweet malts. Wow. Very interesting taste here, in a good way, not what I was expecting for a Belgie SDA. Really good carbonation with a really complex character all around the tongue. Wish I had a few more of these around. Some strange childhood memories going through my head while trying to pin point flavors, thinking kid candies somewhere in this one. Really good flavors, just don't know how to describe them. Digging this one. Complex all around.

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Photo of gyllstromk
4.5/5  rDev +31.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

The "belgian strong dark ale" style seems an inappropriate label; I'd place it closer to Rodenbach/Red ale/saison.

Pours copper red.

Nose has fruity sweetness, cloves, vanilla, perhaps nutmeg or cinnamon.

Flavor has a nice acidity with an interesting and welcome sweet counterbalance. Acidity has a vinegar character, which makes it more like a flander's red style (rodenbach) than a lambic. The balance makes this a more refreshing and drinkable beer than rodenbach. Slight bitterness on the finish. The alcohol is well masked; in fact I was surprised to discover this beer at 9%.

Very interesting and recommended!

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Photo of welldigger888
4.46/5  rDev +30.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle no freshness date

Copper amber color with an off white head that gives a 1/4" cap all the way down glass leaving a blanket of lace.

Sweet earthy musty aromas, reminds of a white wine. A hint of ginger raisin and fig. No real hops detected, no booziness to speak of. Very impressive.

Flavors follow the nose, sweet musty earthy and BANG a BIG fruity sweet raisin grain citric melon berries and grape finish that lingers for days. Huge dry wine like finish- Wow the fruit.

challenging mouthfeel here for me, seems full and robust sweet and dry not cloying in any way easy drinker the ABV is well hidden.

Very pleased I found this, couple more in the hole.

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Photo of Sallerj
4.45/5  rDev +30.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Two comments on other people's reviews-- first, I'm surprised at all the hate this beer is getting. Second, everybody seems to know what year their's was made, and they all seem really old. Mine has no date, but looks worn, and now I'm curious.

It smells like tart cherry and spice, with a little bit of a funky red wine aroma.

The taste is a wonderful balance of fruity malt and esters, with a distinct but not overpowering sourness. It starts lemony tart and slightly bitter, and then the tartness fades and a rich caramel sweetness lingers with the bitterness.

The carbonation cuts the sweetness in the aftertaste. The mouthfeel is full and rich, without being overly sticky.

For 9% ABV, this is an exceptionally drinkable beer. I just polished off a 750 mL in about 20 minutes.

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Photo of KTCamm
4.43/5  rDev +29.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Champagne style bottle poured into a Duvel glass.

Pours dark amber reddish with a layer of foam sitting atop the brew. Cherries, cola, fruity nose. Rich complex flavor, very fruity. Raisins, plums. Some chocolate in there too - and it builds with warmth. Firm strong carbonation builds to a great mouthfeel. Very complex and flavorful. Excellent.

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Photo of geexploitation
4.33/5  rDev +26.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This brewery is total Jekyll and Hyde due to poor quality control. Some bottles are amazing, others terrible. Let's see what lot I drew...

Pours a slightly murky, almost rusty amber color with a light white head that leaves plenty of lace. Very light carbonation, but the head stays. On the nose, some odd but enticing aromas of vague spices (all below threshold and hard to identify individually), bubblegum and funk. A sweetish tea presence floats in the background. The palate is more oddity, but it's oddly delicious. Fresh acidity starts things off, along with sweet tropical fruits and the aforementioned bubblegum. Midway through the funk comes out, with lively sourness that tastes brett-derived. Tea-like mix of bitter and sweet that continues through the finish gives way to hops and creamy spices at the very end. Mouthfeel is not highly carbonated, but still seems lively in spite of it. Overall, this is a flavorful, funky saison. It looks like I got a good bottle -- it was excellent stuff.

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4.32/5  rDev +26.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I enjoyed this bottle at Ebenezer's Pub in Maine- poured from the 750ml into a snifter - this bottle was the '96 vintage

A - A slight caramel ruddy amber w/ no head at all except there is some evidence of lace on the glass.

S - The smell has vanill oak notes and a cherry-like aroma similar to a baked tart w/ mild currant and subtle toast notes w/ sugary odor and floral yeast esters

M - The feel is tart and juicy w/ mild acidity and light spice w/ slight sweetness, very mildly carbonated and subtle drying in the finish

T - A creamy taste w/ cherry juice and subtle pine w/ mild vanilla and toasted oak notes. The taste is bready like grandma's homemade pie crust w/ slightly sour cherry flavor and gentle lemony accent w/ a moderately tannic dry finish

D - The beer is slightly oxidized but drinks well - a tasty treat from Chris and our friends at Ebenezer's Pub who shared graciously. The drinkability is great now I need to get a bottle of Supplication since it is the supposed nearest thing

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4.25/5  rDev +24.3%

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4.24/5  rDev +24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

No dating. Cloudy, dark and oaky brown, with tons of sediment floating throughout. Cannot see through it. Massive almond head finally settled down to only a small ring of creamy bubbles with a bit of a small island in the center. Lovely fruity scents of sherry, dark cherry and orange peel. I allowed this to warm a bit before opening, nice! Good amount of carbination, but smooth and flowing, silky....
Flavors of cream sherry and dried bing cherries. Caramelly sweetness, roasted malts, spices poking through in the background. Great flavors so very well blended. Leaves alot to savor on your tongue. Good sipper beer.

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Photo of dgallina
4.2/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy brown with small creamy head and decent lacing. Smells of very sweet candi sugars and caramel malts on a base of fusel alcohols. Starts caramel sweet, develops into plums and dark fruits, and finishes with very strong chocolate-laced brandy flavors. Creamy and medium-bodied in the mouth; light carbonation. Sticky and sweet but quite tasty. A very nice dessert beer.

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Photo of Boto
4.2/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz bottle: This one pours a fairly opaque brown color. There was very little head from the pour, and it whent down almost immediately. The aroma is good. There are notes of sour fruits and caramel. Maybe some figs and yeast also. It was similar to a port wine type of aroma. The taste is a little tart and sweet at the same time. Caramel, roastiness, and a hint of orange to the taste. Nice.

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Photo of BeerResearcher
4.12/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz thick brown bottle. No Date.
It pours a murky amberish/tan with a big beige head a smattering of lacing.
The aroma is this beer's best attribute. Smells of cut hay, sweet caramel malt, citrusy hops, lemon hard candy and white rum mix quite nicely.
Fresh bread dough, malt, caramel, plums and ripe bananas provide an ample body.
Lemony hops, cloves, coriander and peppery spices make up the hop department.
The alcohol, while noticeable, is a good supporting team player in this brew.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.11/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

To say that this bottle was ancient would be putting it mildly. It predates my move to my "new" house over two years ago.

As such, I was very gentle in my initial pour, so as not to disturb any dormant sediment and I got no head as a result. Color was a deep copper with only hints of carbonation, making it seem more like liquor than beer. Nose was rich with a molasses scent - slightly bitter, slightly smoky, slightly licorice. Mouthfeel was medium-to-full, so the cap had done its job after all that time, really retaining the carbonation. I got an initial heat, followed by a very molasses-like flavor on the tongue. Finish was still hot and left me almost breathless. I would imagine that this must be quite the item when consumed fresh. I am also sure that its brewer, my inspiration for wearing an apron, Jean-Louis Dits, would not mind that I waited this long to open my bottle.

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Photo of SeanChouffe
4.1/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

She pours a dark amber color with some chill haze a beige head, some carbonation rolling up from the bottom of the glass, and plenty of sediment. It keeps a lasting layer of foam and some nice lacing. The aroma is like sherry, fruity esters, bubblegum, tart and some plum thrown in. The Mouthfeel is full-bodied, creamy, effervescent, with a dry finish, and yet unusually light on the palate. It has a nice mellowing, warming effect as it goes down. An interesting brew with good balance and complexities, but not overwhelming.

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Photo of FarmerJOrganic
4.08/5  rDev +19.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Great sour raisin, malty amber here.

Prefect 1/4 hat of pure white head. Glass was trimmed with foam as I imbibed.

Mouth feel is dry, could be from the sourness. I'd say more along the lines of a alcoholic apple cider, there is a sure crispy bite to each sip.

Smell is all malt with a quick note of sour on the backside.

Taste is prefect, if you like the more sour crazy examples of the Belgians. Hard to note all the flavors here, Raisin is on the front and it starts off sweeter than the smell you would lead you to believe. As soon as the raisin pass you get this sour citric melon, lemon thing that lead straight into the malt. The maltyness carries into the yeast. I get notes of honey and plum but neither last and both changed back and forth on each sip. More honey to start with metal plums towards the end.

Overall a great, interesting beer. I've got two more in the cellar and I may update my review as I drink those.

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Photo of Antyk
4.07/5  rDev +19%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of sjccmd
4.07/5  rDev +19%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Roasted chicory in the aroma with lots of baking spices. Clove is pretty strong. Cocoa, raisins, hazelnut. Fruity pear and apple notes creep up as it warms. The phenols seem to calm a bit revealing walnuts and fig.

Pours beautiful clear amber with a wispy light tan head. Ok lacing and retention.

Hearty, roasty, fruity palate. Fig and plum with chicory and light roasted coffee. A touch of acidity brings out the fruit character. Hints of berries.

Surprisingly light on the palate with light carbonation and a tickle of acidity.

I can't say it's my favorite from Vapeur, but it's fascinating. A real thinker.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.07/5  rDev +19%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

A - Murky brown body, thin carbonation on top. Brown soot on the bottom, swilled and poured.

S - Tangy, fruity esters, aromas of apple butter and fig newtons. Carmel mineral water.

T - Good complexity with flavors of apple skin, wild cherry, honey, apple butter and dry wood. A certain mineral twang, sweet, tangy and metallic.

M - Fizzy carbonation, medium body, clean the whole way through.

O - A wonderful beer; complex yet clean, fruity and refreshing.

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Photo of kingcrowing
4.05/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

33cl bottle poured into a tulip glass, had at Delirium Cafe.

Pours a nice deep dark amber/ruby color with a small while head. Very nice. Nose is hoppy, crisp and sweet with a nice malt backbone to it.

Taste is awesome, very rich and smooth lots of carbonation and sweet caramel flavors. Very tasty with a very full mouthfeel, check this out if you can find it.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.05/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Massive, intensely fizzy, cracklin' loud cap of foam. Rice Crispies in milk bow to the noise currently emanating from my glass. The hugely stiff, blown styrofoam-like head is falling quickly (how could it not, given the deafening roar of bursting bubbles) and leaves no lace. The initial pour is as bright tangerine as any IPA from the U.S. left coast and the final pour is indistinguishable from fresh, sweet apple cider. Ultimately, the aural sex is over and I'm left looking at a spotty, spent film on the surface of the beer.

The nose is butterscotch fruity and smells like golden raisins swollen with dark rum. Alcohol is front and center, but is so completely integrated into the flavor of the beer that is doesn't bother me at all.

Cochonnette reminds me of a sweet dessert wine, some variety of port perhaps, with notes of dried fruit soaked in honey liqueur, an appetizing sourness and an oakiness that gives it a stately character. Candied orange peel completes the picture; hints of Grand Marnier. The syrupy slick mouthfeel is perfect for the flavor that it carries. Sip and savor.

I didn't expect to like Vapeur Cochonnette nearly this much. I have yet to cultivate a love affair with Belgian beer, but perhaps I just haven't had the right one. I have no illusions that this is among the elite, but so what. I like it and that's all that matters.

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Photo of Jason
4.04/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 11.2 oz slender Euro style bottle with no freshness date, this is no problem for this brew being that it is at 9.0% abv and bottle conditioned.

Appearance: Lots of foam for the initial pouring, sadly it drops down to a ring of lace. Chunks of yeast stay whole a in suspension within a semi-clear reddish amber.

Smell: Solvent alcohol, tropical fruit punch, citric peel, musty powdery yeast and a vague sugary malty sweetness make up the complex and inviting aroma.

Taste: Slick mouth feel with an apparent medium body. Big viscous carbonation that slowly flows through the mouth. Solvent and fusel alcohols dance on the taste buds with a never ending and ever warming spiciness. Fruity is not even the word to use, tropical punch with a ripeness that you would never think would be in a beer is more like it. Musty powdery yeast with hints of coriander. An earthy bitterness comes out of nowhere, obviously from the roasted chicory. Hints of a rum and triple sec mixed drink from the fruitiness and raw sugar like flavour hits hard with a spicy phenolic surprise in the finish.

Notes: An in your face Belgian beer, it wakes up the taste buds shakes them a couple of times and then does it over and over again. This brew is all over the place but in a great way.

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