Vapeur Cochonne | Brasserie à Vapeur

204 Ratings
Vapeur CochonneVapeur Cochonne

Brewed by:
Brasserie à Vapeur

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002

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Photo of francisweizen
1/5  rDev -70.6%
look: 1 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Cool bottle, but a crap beer. This pours a still amber colour. No carbonation. funky, lambic-gone-bad, taste. No mouthfeel or drinkability...Horrible! This stuff truly sucks!!! One of the worst Belgians out there, if not the worst. Was this a bad bottle???

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Photo of mophie
1.18/5  rDev -65.3%
look: 2 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

First off, I got a bad bottle. Usually I give the brewer the benefit of the doubt that the beer sat on the shellf too long at the store, but A) I bought this beer at a reputable store, and B) at 9% abv I would expect that the shelf life of this beer would be fairly lengthy. But no, it was rancid. It poured like iced tea, except iced tea has more carbonation. Not a single bubble. At first, the aromas were fruity, tart apples. However, those aromas started giving way to a sour vomit-like aroma. At this point I was afraid to taste it, but I did anyway on the off chance that the smell was not indicative of the taste. Alas, no. One sip was all, and I felt like I needed something to wash my mouth out with. Absolutely disgusting. I know the beer is supposed to be better than what I had, but I think there are probably some quality control issues that need to be addressed.

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Photo of corby112
1.27/5  rDev -62.6%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Serving type: bottle.

Pours a hazy amber color with a thin white head that quickly dissapears. Smells like spicy rubbing alcohol and doesn't taste much different. Nothing interesting about this beer really. It is all alcohol and very little flavor. It smells and tastes disgusting.

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Photo of RoyalT
1.45/5  rDev -57.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Appearance – Orange in color with some carbonation but no head whatsoever.

Smell – Very faint and bland spicy aroma with a touch of yeast. There’s not much there, but I’m picking up a sour-type of smell that doesn’t remind me of any BSDA that I’ve had before.

Taste – Ouch! This is sour as hell. I can’t taste anything other than a horrible sour taste.

Mouthfeel – This was quite the pucker-upper. It was thin, fizzy, and lame.

Sinkability – There’s no way that I’m finishing this one.

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Photo of mzwolinski
1.63/5  rDev -52.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Call me a sucker, but I simply can't pass up an unfamiliar bottle of Belgian beer with a happy, large-breasted pig dancing around on the cover waving something (what is that, her brassiere?) over her head. Even if it did cost $12 for the 750ml.

Damn me and my impulse buys.

This beer is, quite simply, very poor. Not a bad looking color. Sort of a pale reddish/orange, but almost completely untroubled by carbonation -- just enough to produce a thin halo around the top.

There's not much of an aroma. But given the charcter of the aroma there is, this might be a blessing in disguise. Weak and obsequious smelling.

A harbinger of the flavor to come, I'm afraid. Again, the only blessing is that the flavors aren't stronger than they are. A bit of sugariness starts the sip and soon dissolves into cheap soda pop. The alcohol burns at the back end without contributing any flavors of interest. The mouthfeel, meanwhile, is thin and fizzy.

The *only* redeeming feature of this beer, oddly enough, is that it has a mildly pleasant aftertaste. Don't ask me how, but there's a gentle burnt toffee flavor that lingers in the mouth well after the sip, as if trying to convince you that the mouthfull you just had wasn't that bad -- go on, try it again!

Dumped down the drain. I won't even drink enough of this to get a buzz before bedtime.

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Photo of JBogan
1.94/5  rDev -42.9%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Pours a cloudy dark brown with ruby accents. No head or lacing whatsoever. Sitting in the glass it looks more like a glass of dark wine with a handful of dirt in it.

The aroma was of dark fruits, mostly raisin and some plum.

The taste was also of dark fruit and plum, but with a distinct earthy background which really dulled things down. The alcohol makes it's presence known in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel was thin to the point of watery. Zero carbonation. Just a really unexceptional sensation.

I don't enjoy slamming beers, but there's really nothing good I can say about this one. Even with a small 11.2 oz bottle I felt like pouring it down the drain before I was finished.

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Photo of Knapp85
1.98/5  rDev -41.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Perhaps I had a bad bottle of this brew but I was not into this one at all. Color, Mouthfeel and Aromas were fine. The flavors were just undrinkable for me. I really don't know why I found this brew to be so gross. After having half the bottle I had to send this one down the drain. Not a pleasant site I know...

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Photo of jfmorey
2/5  rDev -41.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

On tap at Pizzeria Paradiso in Georgetown (DC).

I do not understand calling this a Belgian Strong, a style that I have always enjoyed. The appearance was not bad, a hazy orange amber, and the smell was tart and funky, not unusual for a Belgian.

The real disclaimer that I must make is that this review is based upon only two sips, I could go no further. The predominant flavor was spoiled orange peel. Reminded me of the oranges with cloves stuck in them used as home-made room deodorizers when I was a kid; strong enough to smell up an entire room.

Now looking at the other reviews, and the variation in description of color and taste, I have to wonder if this is the same beer everyone else drank.

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Photo of Archemedies
2/5  rDev -41.2%

Photo of CasanovaCummins
2/5  rDev -41.2%

Photo of bsuedekum
2/5  rDev -41.2%

Photo of Tdrmoss84
2/5  rDev -41.2%

Photo of bultrey
2.12/5  rDev -37.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

I don't like this. Served in a 10 oz. glass at Spuyten Duyvil. I had tried the Cochonette previously, and thought it interesting, if not somewhat enjoyable. The Cochonne, however, had many of the same flavors (cinnamon, burnt toast, malt) drowning under a heavy medicinal character. No hops to speak of. Carbonation was non-existent from the beginning. I was surprised, because the Cochnonette (out of the bottle) had a tremendous and persistent carbonation that really improved the beer. But the Spuyten crew assured me that the low carbonation was normal here. If so, boo. I struggled to finish even a 10 oz. glass.
Pass on this puppy.

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Photo of BEERchitect
2.19/5  rDev -35.6%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I really hope that I received a bad bottle of this brew... because this was godawful. The rust colored beer poured without a hint of head retention, lacking in carbonation, and simply appeared lifeless. The aromas did not fare better; a pungent vinegar aroma dominated the red-wine character and disregarded any malt sweetness and artisan ale influence. Flavors resulted in much the same: sour and dirty. No real detection of the spices that were noted on the bottle, nor any variety, complexity, or balance. The body was watery, acidic, and astringent; nearly undrinkable. The beer was a near disaster throughout; I'm interested in revisiting this brew and updating this review. Potential buyers, beware of old / contaminated bottles.

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Photo of PatandDavid
2.23/5  rDev -34.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Believe it or not, I actually could not finish this beer. Me, the girl that glares at bartenders if they try to take my glass away and there's still a drop left in, actually pushed this beer away after 2/3.
I love Belgians, and if there's one on at Redbones that I've never had, I get excited. I've discovered so many delicious beers there, so naturally, I was delighted to see this beer on tap. Here goes: Dark cloudy apricot color. I picked up cinnamon in the aroma, but also some unpleasant medicinal notes. Unfortunately, the taste was more reminiscent of the medicinal flavor...and the mouthfeel was also syrupy. I thought there was an over-all medicinal flavor that was just unpleasant, and like I said, I just couldn't take it anymore and was unable to finish the glass (a 10.5 pour). Maybe this is better in bottles, but I don't think I'll take the chance again if I see it on tap. pat

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Photo of yossarian14
2.25/5  rDev -33.8%

Photo of nootch23
2.25/5  rDev -33.8%

Photo of illini4x4
2.25/5  rDev -33.8%

Photo of barleywinefiend
2.3/5  rDev -32.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Officially, the oldest brew I have ever had. 13 years strong.

Poured a orange color with ok carbonation and a small white head that disappears fast. Nose is fruits, sour and tart, thats about it. taste is tart, tart and mo' tart with fruit and spice. Undrinkable all the way around. Should be classified as a sour ale.

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Photo of Absumaster
2.31/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

A clear, copper colored beer with a thin head.

Smell is autolysed yeast, with some sharp spicy notes and a subdued malt smell.

Taste of higher alcohols and the spices are probably anise, one of the worst combinations that are out there. Together with the 9% alcohol and the yeast taste, this beer is not OK. The alcohol is warming and almost burns a hole in my throat. I have had more beers of this brewery and they all seem to taste like this. Bitterness is pretty low and body is low. Some candisugar notes are in here, but can't get around the sharp spice and alcohol taste.

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Photo of jcruelty
2.37/5  rDev -30.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.25

i didnt like the label nor the beer. spoiled orange peel is dead on

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Photo of GClarkage
2.47/5  rDev -27.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

07/13/05- Purchased at Ledger's Liquors in Berkeley, CA

Presentation- 750ml bottle, caged and corked. No expiration date listed. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

Appearance- Murky spoiled peach color, the smallest of head and minimal lacing.

Smell- Smells lifeless. Maybe some peaches and other fruits hanging on, but not much else.

Taste- Sour to the point of almost a red flanders. Maybe a little bit of sweetness as well from the fruity aspects.

Mouthfeel- Hardly any carbonation. Lifeless and somewhat watery.

Drinkability- Hands down the worst belgian I have had the pleasure of having so far. I wish I had read the reviews before purchasing. Glad I was able to share this with someone rather than drinking the whole thing myself.

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Photo of jmann40
2.5/5  rDev -26.5%

Photo of Imstillthegman
2.6/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Shared this one with some other good beer drinkers after dinner. Oh yeah...shared it with the sink, also. I thank my bro-in-law for bringing it, though.

Poured a dark amber color with a thin ivory head that quickly vanished.

Smelled musty. Vinegar, ginger, light fruit scent, cheap wine. Wasn't sure what to make of it.

Tart, slightly sour flavor. Sweet at first with a touch of spice before a sour mustiness becomes overbearing. Not my cup of tea (or beer). Possibly a bad bottle, or maybe just my taste buds. Either way, I don't like it.

Mouthfeel is a little thin, very little carbonation. None of us made it all the way through our glasses. Label was different, though.

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Photo of NEhophead
2.63/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 fl oz bottle.

A fizzy white head that fades to a thin sheet after a moment. A bit of spotty lacing with average strength. Slightly hazy, light brown in color. Some noticeable sediment.

A tart fruit aroma: lemon, orange along with an odd vinegar mustiness. A touch of candied malt sweetness. The aroma is more reminiscent of a sour.

The most obvious flavor is a fruity tartness: sour apple, grapefruit, and lemon with some vinegar. A powder candied sugary underlying sweetness. Some clove/herb spiciness that creates a dry finish. A mouth puckering and unbalanced aftertaste. The typical Belgian Strong Dark's rich malt character is absent. All of these flavors are unbalanced and unflattering.

Medium bodied; thin, very little carbonation. Weak on the palate. Leaves an unpleasant film on the mouth.

The one positive about this ale is how well its 9% abv is hidden. With that said, this ale is an unpleasant offering that I won't be going back to. A disappointment.

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Vapeur Cochonne from Brasserie à Vapeur
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