Vapeur Cochonne | Brasserie à Vapeur

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie à Vapeur
Belgium
vapeur.com

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
204
Reviews:
138
Avg:
3.4
pDev:
20.59%
 
 
Wants:
5
Gots:
10
For Trade:
1
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Ratings: 204 |  Reviews: 138
Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

An interesting tasting beer to throw your friends off. Mix it up with others. In a spicy meal you can share a bottle. Not sure it would hold up by itself. ALcohol and carbonation there and a bunch of spices and tastes on the tongue that seemed like spiced rum. Bottle's wild picture makes you contemplate your life.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.68/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

On tap at Lucky Baldwins in Pasadena, CA.

Pours a murky dark honey orange with a foamy khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Foamy swaths of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is sour and tart with malt, vinegar, and fruity aromas. Taste is much the same with malt and sour fruit flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with a nice sour presence that works with the beer whether intended or not by the brewer.

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Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.31/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

weird brew here, this from 1996 it says. thats pretty old for what this is, and it pours real flat, maybe as a result of its age. apple juice color with some yeast sediment and no head at all, just some quickly bursting white bubbles, then no activity at all. the nose is like cider vinegar, its got that orchard fruitiness on the front end, and moves into a lactic tartness that may be an infection, not sure this was ever supposed to be a wild type ale, but it is now. the flavor follows the nose, moving from fruity and stale cereal grain beginnings to an acidic tartness in the finish with the yeast lasting quite awhile on the tongue. sharp acidity is exacerbated by the alcohol, which comes out when this warms up just a bit. a very strange mix of flavors here, it may just be well past its prime at this age, but for me it was a miss.

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Photo of djrn2
3/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of Knapp85
1.98/5  rDev -41.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Perhaps I had a bad bottle of this brew but I was not into this one at all. Color, Mouthfeel and Aromas were fine. The flavors were just undrinkable for me. I really don't know why I found this brew to be so gross. After having half the bottle I had to send this one down the drain. Not a pleasant site I know...

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Photo of t0rin0
3.5/5  rDev +2.9%

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3/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of BEERchitect
2.19/5  rDev -35.6%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

I really hope that I received a bad bottle of this brew... because this was godawful. The rust colored beer poured without a hint of head retention, lacking in carbonation, and simply appeared lifeless. The aromas did not fare better; a pungent vinegar aroma dominated the red-wine character and disregarded any malt sweetness and artisan ale influence. Flavors resulted in much the same: sour and dirty. No real detection of the spices that were noted on the bottle, nor any variety, complexity, or balance. The body was watery, acidic, and astringent; nearly undrinkable. The beer was a near disaster throughout; I'm interested in revisiting this brew and updating this review. Potential buyers, beware of old / contaminated bottles.

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Photo of zeff80
2.64/5  rDev -22.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a somewhat hazy, copper color with a tan , foamy, bubbly head. It left some nice lacing.

S - Simply put, it smelled like Heineken. It was a little skunky and smelled like a Euro Lager. Not good for a Belgian.

T - It tasted bitter and grainy. Not at all like a Belgian ale. Not very good at all.

M - It was crisp and sharp. A medium-bodied beer.

D - From other reviews, it looks like they have quality issues and this must have been one of the bad ones.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.06/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma consists of sweet malt with some funky notes which don't balance well with the malt. Taste is also dominated by some nice medium sweet Belgian malt notes with a weird funky finish which I can't say for sure that I really enjoy. Full body with limited filtration and some great carbonation. Interesting but not sure I would go for this very often.

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Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Amber-colored, not particularly light or dark, and mostly opaque. The first pour creates a fizzy, champagne-like head. Subsequent pours produce more of a standard oversized Belgian head.

Smell: Initially it's pretty earthy with a mustiness that reminds me of gueuze or lambic. Aromas of dried fruit are present as well, namely dried peach.

Taste: Simultaneously sweet and sour, but not in an over-the-top way; it's a fairly subtle beer. Apple cider and mead both come to mind. Spices are noticeable but I can't pin down specific flavors - it's pretty unusual. The finish is a touch dry and slightly metallic, with a mild herbal bitterness.

Mouthfeel: Fairly light-bodied with a sharp champagne-like fizz on the tongue.

Notes - An unusual beer, not one I'd revisit any time soon.

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Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev +10.3%

Photo of Thorpe429
3/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.77/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

On-tap 12/31/2014 at Doherty’s Ale House in Warwick, RI, served in a snifter glass.

A: The beer is a deep coppery red color, with a large off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a very thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains tart fruit, caramelized malts and touches of chocolate and spice.

T: The taste starts with a quick burst of sourness and then some flavors of tart fruit and caramel come in. The malt character is hearty but not too heavy and brings a good balance. The after-taste is slightly tart.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is dry and slightly sticky.

O: Tasty with good complexity, goes down ok, not too filling, good kick, good variation of style, this is solid beer to drink for while.

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3/5  rDev -11.8%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.7/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours considerably murky with a dingy brownish orange color. If a beer could look gloomy and depressed, this would be it. Essentially no carbonation; you could count the bubbles it produced on one hand.

Smell: Markedly funky fruitiness, with green apples, pears, and yeast. A little sherrylike, all glossed over with a pronounced vinegary aroma.

Taste: Grapes, sour apples, and pears usher in a brief, vague sweetness, followed by a spicy, puckering tartness. Seems overly acidic.

Mouthfeel: Flat and syrupy, though unmistakably mealy, like a bad grocery store apple.

Drinkability: Sadly, it never really excels in any particular category. The flavor of this beer mocks me. The mouthfeel mocks me. Both hurt. For me, it failed, and I wouldn't recommend it.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.05/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Massive, intensely fizzy, cracklin' loud cap of foam. Rice Crispies in milk bow to the noise currently emanating from my glass. The hugely stiff, blown styrofoam-like head is falling quickly (how could it not, given the deafening roar of bursting bubbles) and leaves no lace. The initial pour is as bright tangerine as any IPA from the U.S. left coast and the final pour is indistinguishable from fresh, sweet apple cider. Ultimately, the aural sex is over and I'm left looking at a spotty, spent film on the surface of the beer.

The nose is butterscotch fruity and smells like golden raisins swollen with dark rum. Alcohol is front and center, but is so completely integrated into the flavor of the beer that is doesn't bother me at all.

Cochonnette reminds me of a sweet dessert wine, some variety of port perhaps, with notes of dried fruit soaked in honey liqueur, an appetizing sourness and an oakiness that gives it a stately character. Candied orange peel completes the picture; hints of Grand Marnier. The syrupy slick mouthfeel is perfect for the flavor that it carries. Sip and savor.

I didn't expect to like Vapeur Cochonnette nearly this much. I have yet to cultivate a love affair with Belgian beer, but perhaps I just haven't had the right one. I have no illusions that this is among the elite, but so what. I like it and that's all that matters.

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Photo of Jason
4.04/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: 11.2 oz slender Euro style bottle with no freshness date, this is no problem for this brew being that it is at 9.0% abv and bottle conditioned.

Appearance: Lots of foam for the initial pouring, sadly it drops down to a ring of lace. Chunks of yeast stay whole a in suspension within a semi-clear reddish amber.

Smell: Solvent alcohol, tropical fruit punch, citric peel, musty powdery yeast and a vague sugary malty sweetness make up the complex and inviting aroma.

Taste: Slick mouth feel with an apparent medium body. Big viscous carbonation that slowly flows through the mouth. Solvent and fusel alcohols dance on the taste buds with a never ending and ever warming spiciness. Fruity is not even the word to use, tropical punch with a ripeness that you would never think would be in a beer is more like it. Musty powdery yeast with hints of coriander. An earthy bitterness comes out of nowhere, obviously from the roasted chicory. Hints of a rum and triple sec mixed drink from the fruitiness and raw sugar like flavour hits hard with a spicy phenolic surprise in the finish.

Notes: An in your face Belgian beer, it wakes up the taste buds shakes them a couple of times and then does it over and over again. This brew is all over the place but in a great way.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.11/5  rDev +20.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

To say that this bottle was ancient would be putting it mildly. It predates my move to my "new" house over two years ago.

As such, I was very gentle in my initial pour, so as not to disturb any dormant sediment and I got no head as a result. Color was a deep copper with only hints of carbonation, making it seem more like liquor than beer. Nose was rich with a molasses scent - slightly bitter, slightly smoky, slightly licorice. Mouthfeel was medium-to-full, so the cap had done its job after all that time, really retaining the carbonation. I got an initial heat, followed by a very molasses-like flavor on the tongue. Finish was still hot and left me almost breathless. I would imagine that this must be quite the item when consumed fresh. I am also sure that its brewer, my inspiration for wearing an apron, Jean-Louis Dits, would not mind that I waited this long to open my bottle.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.32/5  rDev +27.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I enjoyed this bottle at Ebenezer's Pub in Maine- poured from the 750ml into a snifter - this bottle was the '96 vintage

A - A slight caramel ruddy amber w/ no head at all except there is some evidence of lace on the glass.

S - The smell has vanill oak notes and a cherry-like aroma similar to a baked tart w/ mild currant and subtle toast notes w/ sugary odor and floral yeast esters

M - The feel is tart and juicy w/ mild acidity and light spice w/ slight sweetness, very mildly carbonated and subtle drying in the finish

T - A creamy taste w/ cherry juice and subtle pine w/ mild vanilla and toasted oak notes. The taste is bready like grandma's homemade pie crust w/ slightly sour cherry flavor and gentle lemony accent w/ a moderately tannic dry finish

D - The beer is slightly oxidized but drinks well - a tasty treat from Chris and our friends at Ebenezer's Pub who shared graciously. The drinkability is great now I need to get a bottle of Supplication since it is the supposed nearest thing

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Photo of womencantsail
3.5/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The pour is a hazy copper color with a thin layer of off-white foam.

S: Very sweet on the nose with caramel, vanilla, and butterscotch. There's a strange aroma of tart fruits, too, like raisins, green apple, grapes, and cherries.

T: The flavor is almost a mirror image of the aroma. The tart fruit character is perhaps a little more intense, and (at the very least) provides a counterpoint to the rich butterscotch and caramel flavor.

M: The body is medium and so is the carbonation.

D: The combination of intense sweetness and tartness was not at all what I was expecting. This was a really interesting beer, if nothing else.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.07/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

A - Murky brown body, thin carbonation on top. Brown soot on the bottom, swilled and poured.

S - Tangy, fruity esters, aromas of apple butter and fig newtons. Carmel mineral water.

T - Good complexity with flavors of apple skin, wild cherry, honey, apple butter and dry wood. A certain mineral twang, sweet, tangy and metallic.

M - Fizzy carbonation, medium body, clean the whole way through.

O - A wonderful beer; complex yet clean, fruity and refreshing.

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Photo of InspectorBob
3.5/5  rDev +2.9%

Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +17.6%

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Vapeur Cochonne from Brasserie à Vapeur
3.4 out of 5 based on 204 ratings.
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