Vapeur Cochonne | Brasserie à Vapeur

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie à Vapeur
Belgium
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Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.00%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 06-27-2002

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#42,470
Reviews:
138
Ratings:
205
pDev:
20.47%
Bros Score:
4.04
 
 
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5
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Ratings: 205 |  Reviews: 138
Photo of jhu1995
3.88/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a cloudy, orange-brownish color with a thick, foamy head. Smell was tart and apple like, somewhat spicy. Taste had some sweetness with tart, sour apple flavor finish. Very interesting and different. Became quite foamy in the mouth, almost like the carbonation was jumping off my tongue. Felt very clean and refreshing. A very drinkable beer for the alcohol content.

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Photo of BeerBuilder
2.8/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottled 1996

Pours to a deep copper color with no head, just a ring of white for lacing. The aroma is musty, sour, and yeasty. The flavor is tart, sweet and a bit metallic. It is a bit funky and earthy in the flavor too. It is medium bodied and sour. Not too easy drinking, would have another.

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Photo of Sephiroth
3.9/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This is the best looking cork I've ever had from this brewery. It comes out with slight pressure behind it. The beer is a sunset like reddish orange with a moderate amount of foam. Smells a little sweet and slightly must/funky.

Tastes complex, and somewhat hot. Not in an alcoholic way, but the sweetness. The slightly sour aspect helps to balance the flavor. Mouthfeel is smoothly carbonated, and the drinkability is okay. Wish there was a bottling date.

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Photo of CharlesRiver
3.47/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I have the very cool naked pig glass so why not buy the beer?

Pours out a lighter amber color with very little head that does not last. Slightly cloudy with very small streams of bubbles that make thier way to the top. Smell is very interesting. Malty with some sourness coming through. Makes me expect a sweet and sour beer.

Taste is very unique. Very much like the smell. Sweet in the beginning and sour towards the end. Giving way to an almost maltly barleywine type flavors (less the hops). Unbalanced and out of place in almost every way however. The one thing this beer does well is hide it's 9% alcohol. I barely even notice that it is that strong.

Not a great beer but very interesting. A bit too malty and sweet. Great graphics non the less.

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Photo of jdhilt
3.04/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours with NO head, there are chunky bits on the bottom. Hazy, murky off-color amber. No carbonation and medium bodied. Sour raisin nose, starts and finishes with the sour raisins some hops in the background, some sour bitterness in the aftertaste. High ABV is not noticeable. $3.65 for a 330ml bottle from Blanchard's Allston, Ma.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.7/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours considerably murky with a dingy brownish orange color. If a beer could look gloomy and depressed, this would be it. Essentially no carbonation; you could count the bubbles it produced on one hand.

Smell: Markedly funky fruitiness, with green apples, pears, and yeast. A little sherrylike, all glossed over with a pronounced vinegary aroma.

Taste: Grapes, sour apples, and pears usher in a brief, vague sweetness, followed by a spicy, puckering tartness. Seems overly acidic.

Mouthfeel: Flat and syrupy, though unmistakably mealy, like a bad grocery store apple.

Drinkability: Sadly, it never really excels in any particular category. The flavor of this beer mocks me. The mouthfeel mocks me. Both hurt. For me, it failed, and I wouldn't recommend it.

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Photo of Boto
4.2/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz bottle: This one pours a fairly opaque brown color. There was very little head from the pour, and it whent down almost immediately. The aroma is good. There are notes of sour fruits and caramel. Maybe some figs and yeast also. It was similar to a port wine type of aroma. The taste is a little tart and sweet at the same time. Caramel, roastiness, and a hint of orange to the taste. Nice.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.2/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer poured into the chalice clear amber brown wtih a frothy and large bubbled head which rose tall and fell just as rapidly to the surface but made an attempt to lace the glass.

The aroma was fruity with a strong citrus impression but a distinct earthiness that was borderline vegetal. Raisins were prevalent in the aroma along with a slight spice. Dark caramel emerged as the beer warmed along with a strong biscuit aromatic.

The flavor was raisins with an odd vegetal flavor that melded with the dark fruit, the carbonation and the alcohol. The flavor contained a brief flavor of dark caramel that remained with some sweetness throughout but that was hampered by the vegetal flavor. A strong biscuit flavor became present as the beer warmed.

The finish was dry with a lasting slight caramel, a strong biscuit flavor and an overpowering vegetal flavor. The body was medium and the carbonation nice. The vegetal flavors were over the top and not well done at all. They really detracted from the beer. This one was not infected or off seeming so I would suggest to skip it.

11.2 ounce bottle.

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Photo of GClarkage
2.47/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

07/13/05- Purchased at Ledger's Liquors in Berkeley, CA

Presentation- 750ml bottle, caged and corked. No expiration date listed. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

Appearance- Murky spoiled peach color, the smallest of head and minimal lacing.

Smell- Smells lifeless. Maybe some peaches and other fruits hanging on, but not much else.

Taste- Sour to the point of almost a red flanders. Maybe a little bit of sweetness as well from the fruity aspects.

Mouthfeel- Hardly any carbonation. Lifeless and somewhat watery.

Drinkability- Hands down the worst belgian I have had the pleasure of having so far. I wish I had read the reviews before purchasing. Glad I was able to share this with someone rather than drinking the whole thing myself.

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Photo of Dukeofearl
3.19/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours a slightly murky brown with no carbonation whatsoever. Is there something worng here, or is it supposed to be this way?

Aroma is pretty pleasant- I bet it would be better with a head involved. But it's sweet with malty caramel and some plum/prune notes. Alcohol there to a slight extent.

Flavor is sharp- probably from the yeast I accidentally poured in. Alcohol is predominent around the toffee malts, caramel, and deep dark brandied candies. But overall, not all that exciting considering the things there. Maybe it's the yeast.

Mouthfeel is really disappointing, considering the lack of carbonation.

Not hot on this one. I would like to try it again if I run across it, just in case there was something wrong with this one.

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Photo of dgallina
4.2/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy brown with small creamy head and decent lacing. Smells of very sweet candi sugars and caramel malts on a base of fusel alcohols. Starts caramel sweet, develops into plums and dark fruits, and finishes with very strong chocolate-laced brandy flavors. Creamy and medium-bodied in the mouth; light carbonation. Sticky and sweet but quite tasty. A very nice dessert beer.

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Photo of tavernjef
3.85/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dull and unfocused dark brick orange color with a medium sized creamy lather of cigarette stained yellow. Thick stringy lace sticks and it prefers to keep close to the thick skim thats left over from the head.

Aroma is of red licorice, rosey flower petals, fresh dates, orange tea sprinkled with cinnamon, touches of tartness, and an overall pale earthy-like dryness.

Flavors are interestingly complex and subtle but without much concentration on any one thing really. Fizzy at first touch, fades off quickly letting in fruitish fun with cherry and grape seemingly in controll over some lighter date and red licorice candy, and not the twizzler kind, the real old fashion stuff found in authentic candy stores. A nice addition to the flavor. Yet its keeps a bit to dry overall across the palate for me but I like whats there. Tartness flips around, in and out. Simple hints to cinnamon, persimmon, and sour earth.

Feel is shy of medium, has firm carbonation, fizzy at times, uniquely dry with a slight chalky parchment laced within its overall sweet and tart charm.

I could possibly get used to it and it does kinda grow on ya. But for 11.2oz at $4.49 its gonna be passable in the future.

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Photo of yoko
3.82/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I was told the difference between this and the larger bottle was not only that the petite is odorned by the very spirited dancing female pig in pink, the larger the male, but that literally it implies a petite pig vapeur (fart). The contents of the bottle, on the other hand, are the same. Thought I'd pass this tibit on . <smile>

She poured a beautiful rich honey with a one finger head that soon dissapates to a film with retentive lace. Present are an up surge of small bubbles producing a sound similar to that experienced when placing a seashell to your ear. The divine nose, I love Belegians for this, was that of a sour plum, sweet, and tart. The medium soft body carries a gentle sweet and sour nectar. The finish is smooth with a light syrup ending with a slight tang -- is this the black pepper?. Other spices were a challenge for me to find.

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Photo of Tballz420
3.84/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Big bottle with a pig having some fun.

This brew is a dark brown color, with almost no head, some bubbly whites. Some grape scents, along with a hint of alcohol. The main crux of the flavor is coming from myriad fruits, some sweetness from malt as well. Alcohol adds to the spiciness. Fairly sticky med mouth. I see some of the other reviewers dont like this one as much, i think its not great but doable nonetheless

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Photo of tatterdash
3.57/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a mahogany red, with a white head with not much lacing. Aroma of sweet raisins, with sourness creeping in as it warmed. Taste was caramelly, with some dark fruits and raisins. Mouthfeel was not as smooth as I would have liked. This is a good beer, but the naked pigs kinda turn me off... I once got a Rochefort 6 served in the glassware for this beer and it almost ruined it... Luckily the bartender apologized... He bowed his head and said "I have failed you." I love my Smokeless Joe...

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Photo of rkhaze
3.45/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours out amber with a light red hue. Big bubbled, quickly falling head.
Not real powerful in the aroma department. Sweet malt, a smidge of fruit and lemony yeast.
Tastes of sweet malt, brown sugar, mild yellow fruit flavors(apricot/peach) and tart Belgian yeast. All the flavors were subdued and it was a bit acidic for the style.
Light bodied with a full, creamy and highly carbonated mouthfeel.
The alcohol was well hidden in this 9% offering. It went down real smooth but ultimately, for the style, not enough flavor or complexity to hold my interest.

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Photo of shapudding
4.24/5  rDev +24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

No dating. Cloudy, dark and oaky brown, with tons of sediment floating throughout. Cannot see through it. Massive almond head finally settled down to only a small ring of creamy bubbles with a bit of a small island in the center. Lovely fruity scents of sherry, dark cherry and orange peel. I allowed this to warm a bit before opening, nice! Good amount of carbination, but smooth and flowing, silky....
Flavors of cream sherry and dried bing cherries. Caramelly sweetness, roasted malts, spices poking through in the background. Great flavors so very well blended. Leaves alot to savor on your tongue. Good sipper beer.

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Photo of MrNuggets
3.69/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Starts off with a very bubbly almost white head that soon fades to just about nothing all too quickly.
Funky! I'm not sure what it is that I'm smelling.
This is pretty sour for the style. Kinda like biting into a grapefruit rine. Aftertaste is very light and lingers for some time. Very enjoyable, reminds me of flowers. The only time I notice the ABV is in the nose. One 750 is plenty.

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Photo of tjd25
3.65/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Lasting and dense although slightly irregular head on a nice-looking purple to mahogany color body. The smell is fruity – red fruits – sweet and smooth like an infusion. Floral too. The taste is harsher, with stronger notes of wood getting close to tartness. Winy, almost kyr-like (cassis and white wine) (or royal kyr, with champagne). Definitely cassis. Enjoyable, although a bit harsh on some sips. Mouthfeel almost gets syrupy at times. Hops appear in their full dryness in the back of the mouth. Nothing that really makes it a “vapeur cochonne”, as stated on the label, but interesting and drinkable.

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Photo of Cwrw
3.27/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Extremely wacky labelling, with a pig running holding a feather?? or something. A green cap, nothing on it. This is an amber coloured beer, forming a large-bubble head which seemed to go away fairy quickly. Lacing is fair, leaving pactches of off-white foam. Honey brown, some red in the colour. The aroma is definitely sour, in the wet-cardboard style. There is not much complexity in the smell, though I do detect sweet caramel, butter, extreme malt, and sourbread. There is a fleeting note of hops in the smell. The taste is also not extremely mystifying: sweet malt up front, followed by a sour middle, and ending with a tart fruity note. There is little to excite the tastebuds. An aftertaste of sesame, honey, and syrupy sauce. The mouthfeel is decent, besides the everpresent sourness. Drinkability is low for me; this would become far too tart for more than one bottle. I am not impressed with this. There is little balance and even less complexity. The alcohol is well-masked in the sweet and sour taste, however. It is hard to believe that this is 9%. Overall, I would not go out of my way to purchase this again. There is something in the mouthfeel and taste that puts me off. The lees are a dirty-milk white, less sour and smoother.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.95/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I like the label on this one. Piggie's got a clean bottom, don't he?
Murky, deep amber, little floaties dotting the landscape, under a fine, pudding-y head that softly drifts down from an impressive several inches thick at first pour.
Funky and sour in the nose, with bright fruit to complement, a lemon/peach tango. Spices are prevalent, and oddness prevails.
Taste: ooo! The weirdness continues. Starts fierce, then fades with all those flavors found in the nose at play on the palate. Dark fruit, citric, and spices, but they take a powder a bit too quickly, and do very little in the mouth.
Medium bodied, with a fruity, but brief finish.
This is a nice, tasty brew, but very quirky. I feel as if I got a "good bottle" when I see some of the other reviews here, but hey, you get lucky some times...or ...do you?

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Photo of aracauna
3.83/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pretty, deep red, hazy body with a large, noisy cream-colored head on top. The aroma is grapelike and sweet, almost like a port. The flavor is soft and warm, dark, nutty malts mingle with raisins and more port-like grapes. I thought I was getting coffee-like notes, but after reading the description, I’m betting it’s from the chicory intead of the malt. Tasty.

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Photo of silenius
2.95/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Pours a dark copper with a light head that disappers quickly. Clarity is a little obscured, a little hazy.

Smell is slightly vineagery with a slight lemon hint.

Taste is canned mandarin oranges at first and then more like an orangey syrup. Maybe a little maple in there, too. Not offensive or bad, just unidimensional and slightly cloying. Sort of like an orange soda pop with some iced tea mixed in.

Mouthfeel gets a little syrupy with sparse carbonation making this feel odd.


I'll finish half the 750ml bottle but that's it.

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Photo of NEhophead
2.63/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

11.2 fl oz bottle.

A fizzy white head that fades to a thin sheet after a moment. A bit of spotty lacing with average strength. Slightly hazy, light brown in color. Some noticeable sediment.

A tart fruit aroma: lemon, orange along with an odd vinegar mustiness. A touch of candied malt sweetness. The aroma is more reminiscent of a sour.

The most obvious flavor is a fruity tartness: sour apple, grapefruit, and lemon with some vinegar. A powder candied sugary underlying sweetness. Some clove/herb spiciness that creates a dry finish. A mouth puckering and unbalanced aftertaste. The typical Belgian Strong Dark's rich malt character is absent. All of these flavors are unbalanced and unflattering.

Medium bodied; thin, very little carbonation. Weak on the palate. Leaves an unpleasant film on the mouth.

The one positive about this ale is how well its 9% abv is hidden. With that said, this ale is an unpleasant offering that I won't be going back to. A disappointment.

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Photo of mzwolinski
1.63/5  rDev -52.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Call me a sucker, but I simply can't pass up an unfamiliar bottle of Belgian beer with a happy, large-breasted pig dancing around on the cover waving something (what is that, her brassiere?) over her head. Even if it did cost $12 for the 750ml.

Damn me and my impulse buys.

This beer is, quite simply, very poor. Not a bad looking color. Sort of a pale reddish/orange, but almost completely untroubled by carbonation -- just enough to produce a thin halo around the top.

There's not much of an aroma. But given the charcter of the aroma there is, this might be a blessing in disguise. Weak and obsequious smelling.

A harbinger of the flavor to come, I'm afraid. Again, the only blessing is that the flavors aren't stronger than they are. A bit of sugariness starts the sip and soon dissolves into cheap soda pop. The alcohol burns at the back end without contributing any flavors of interest. The mouthfeel, meanwhile, is thin and fizzy.

The *only* redeeming feature of this beer, oddly enough, is that it has a mildly pleasant aftertaste. Don't ask me how, but there's a gentle burnt toffee flavor that lingers in the mouth well after the sip, as if trying to convince you that the mouthfull you just had wasn't that bad -- go on, try it again!

Dumped down the drain. I won't even drink enough of this to get a buzz before bedtime.

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Vapeur Cochonne from Brasserie à Vapeur
Beer rating: 3.42 out of 5 with 205 ratings
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