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Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009) | Magic Hat Brewing Company

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Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009)Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009)

Brewed by:
Magic Hat Brewing Company
Vermont, United States

Style: Belgian Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-02-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 112 |  Reviews: 84
Photo of Knapp85
4.2/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I'm pretty sure that this is by far the best Odd Notion I've ever had. This one has really set the bar high in my opinion for others to follow after it. This beer poured out as a nice deep black color with a creamy tan colored head on top. The smell of the beer gave off some nice hints of dark chocolate and yeast. The taste of the beer is also chocolaty and has a good amount of Belgian flavors coming off of it. The mouthfeel was pretty thick, I thought this was a Stout more than a Dark Ale. Overall I really enjoyed this one... I'll actually miss it.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.08/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The beer pours Stout-like enough with a dark brown, opaque appearance. A loosely knit head gives lightly tanned foam that laces fairly and with little legging.

Very smokey for a beer that should be centered around roasted malts and spicy Belgian yeast. Malts bring a lot of roasted and char aromas and flavor with a coffee, burnt cocoa, and hazelnut hint here and there. Belgian character is slight but with light tartness of blueberries, black raspberries, and currants, and grapes.

Quite sweet and abrasive textures work to dry out in the end but can't hardly seal the deal. A lot of cola-like residual sweetness is left on the mouth's surfaces. The beer is kinda everywhere except for the focus on chocolate and Belgian traits. Smokey as hell though.

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2/5  rDev -46.5%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.15/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Empties out of the typical whimsical Magic Hat bottle a black body with a frothy, dark tan-colored head.

Smell: Chocolaty, lightly roasty, smoky aroma with round-about notes of cracked cloves, ripe plums, and oven-smoked 'nanas mingled within.

Taste: Roasty, toasty, but mainly roasty grains and semi-sweet chocolate with a medium level of sweetness. Midway into the taste, a staunch smokiness washes in. For me, the Columbus hops didn't add too terribly much character beyond a bitter that pairs with the roasted quality of the grains. Light clove spiciness ushers in a fruity mix of bananas and plums. Choco-roasty finish with a final kiss of smoke.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: Why, that's not bad at all! And such a sensible percentage of alcohol, too. Usually, I'm left looking like a bored ox on a hill when it comes to Magic Hat's offerings, but this, I dare say, is one of their better brews as of late.

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Photo of mikesgroove
3.55/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

reviewed from notes, this one was serve in a pint glass during a magic hat tasting i had with my brother in law down at his apartment.

the our was a nice dark brown color with this tin wispy head of off white that capped the top only for a slight time offering little in the way of side lacing. aroma of roasted malts, light smoke, and hints of chocolate, nice and warming, but lacked the punch i was looking for. flavor was more of the same, not bad at all, had all the right markers there with light peat, lots of chocolate, deep roasted profile, just too light for me to be honest. thin feel as i find with alot of these beers, but easy to drink and a smooth aftertaste.

overall not sure who piked the style on this one, but that is definitley off, but the beer itself was solid and decently put together.

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Photo of stakem
3.32/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a black color with a nicely tanned dark brown head. It doesn't offer up much retension and just a bit of lacing clings to the glassware. The nose caught me completely off guard and I had to do a double take at the style. Initially it smelled just like the smokey beef jerky found in a rauchbier. However, it also includes a prominent amount of licorice, chocolate and coffee as well. Taste has a bitter combination of burnt grains and hops. Also picking up on some yeasty off flavors masked behind chocolate notes and alcohol. Lingering taste of bitter chocolate is left in the mouth. It has a medium body with low carb.

Really everything about this beer truely is odd. It has the look of a stout, the nose of a rauchbier and the taste of well; nothing I ever had before. I can't really say it was a bad experience, but at the same time it wasn't that great either. Labeled as a belgian dark, I wish it would of had more characteristics of that style.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
3.9/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Another impressive fall sampler selection from a large "micro" brewery who happens to make craft beer. Appears a pitch black hue body that absorbs all spectrums of visible light, large mocha tan head forms thick with some large bubbles scattered throughout. Streaks of lacing forms on the sides of my chalice, pretty nice looking dark brew from Magic Hat. Aroma very big with dark dried dark fruits like plum with another component of citrus fruit, big and roasted malt profile arises with dark cocoa and dry bittering coffee accents. Flavors bring big roasted malt complexity matched with lactic creamy tones and sharp acidic fruit qualities with each sip. By the way the website states that this is a Black Stout nowhere can I find any Belgian yeast strain mentions or strong dark ale info and frankly 6.2 is more in line with an American Stout than with a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. Finishes roasty with some dry bitterness from that, also herbal hops notes are expressed a bit watery in a since but definitely susbtantial enough to fulfill the shoes of a good stout. Drinkability is definitely doable, I enjoy dark brews from South Burlington it's a shame they don't release much anymore this is a welcome addition to brews of the past that I loved so dearly for example Heart of Darkness.

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3/5  rDev -19.8%

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3.5/5  rDev -6.4%

Photo of GarthDanielson
3.68/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into a pint glass, the beer is jet black, with a huge, thick, foamy, dense, milk chocolate head that starts out around three inches, but quickly settles into a thin layer of film. Aromas are heavy in coffee and dark, sweet, old world fruit like plum. The beer's flavors are heavy in coffee, dark roasted and slightly charred, with a hint of bittersweet dark chocolate and spicy peppering at the end. The aftertaste is sweet, with a heavy coffee bitter undertone. A little smokey, too. The finish is bitter and dry, almost to the point of puckering. This beer has been aging for almost 2 years, and it's actually pretty darn good. Held up well, and smoothed out considerably.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.03/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

In my opinion, this is not a belgian strong dark ale. The site has it wrong this is a porter/stout and I am reviewing it according to those guidelines.

Appears very dark engine oil with a brown head.

Smell is of faint chocolate, moderate espresso.

The flavor follows the nose with a robust roasted flavor, also some green hops are in there too adding moderate bitterness. Coffee notes are also there,just a hint of smoke.

Mouthfeel is full bodied and well carbonated.

A solid brew overall, would love to see something like this available year round. Good stuff.

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Photo of wrightst
4/5  rDev +7%

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3.75/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of DrDemento456
3.68/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Had this about a month ago when it was at my bottle shop. I thought I would review it since I recently had the winter release.

A - Dark red almost black yet transparent
S - chocolate and cherries.
T - Lived up to the taste but was kind of watery. Still it wasn't as bitter as most of the chocolate beer I have tried which was a plus.
M - moderate kind of dry. It was ok but I really wanted more creamy out of this beer.
D - I had one and it was enough. If it comes around again as a solid Magic had beer I would sample it again but I believe they could lower the abv and make it taste a bit better. Still it lived up to the name Odd Nation.

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Photo of ColForbinBC
3.98/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into a Chouffe tulip

Pours a viscous, used engine oil black with a brown head that rose to fill the tulip. The head fell slowly and left some mild lacing, but nothing to get too excited about.

The nose has a lot of roast. Deep roasted malt, dark belgian chocolate, molasses, raspberries, and spicy phenols. A very impressive nose. Not overly broad, but pretty deep. The layers of roast is extremely impressive.

Deep roasted coffee beans, almost charred with bitter dark chocolate. A spicy clove character seems to pop up towards the end. The finish is bitter with a touch of sweetness. Complex for sure.

The carbonation is tuned up a touch too much to really let this beer shine. A thick, creamy mouthfeel is inhibited by some fizzy bubbles. Full bodied for sure, but it lacks that truly creamy, robust mouthfeel I was hoping for.

The alcohol showed up towards the end and left a slight warming in its wake. Overall though, well hidden and drinkable for the style.

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Photo of ppoitras
2.55/5  rDev -31.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz bottle received as a trade extra from VanillaMike. Thanks for the opportunity.

Poured into an imperial pint glass, formed a 1/2" dark brown head over the opaque dark brown/black brew. Head recedes slowly, with leggy, slow-falling lace. Aroma is dark malts, prominent fruit, light tartness. Taste is cherries and rich, almost cloying sweetness, closes tart, with a chalky aftertaste. Mouthfeel is okay, but drinkability is knocked down by my unhappiness with the flavor. Odd notion, indeed.

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Photo of Brad007
4.18/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a pitch black color with a thin brown one-finger head into my fluted glass. Definitely stout-like.

Aroma is creamy with a good hint of chocolate, coffee and candi sugar/spice. Nice.

Taste is full of cream, bitter coffee with only a small hint of chocolate. Dark fruits and a hint of raisin seem to be secondary flavors.

Mouthfeel has just a bit much carbonation for my liking. Still quite drinkable. Alcohol seems to be present quite a bit.

A decent beer that when it warms up, the flavors open up like a flower bouquet. Again, carbonation could be lower to make the beer smoother

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Photo of morimech
4.12/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Odd Notion is an odd beer. A very dark color with a small head that fades to a collar of bubbles. Very little lace is left on the glass. The aroma is a combination of dark or over-ripen fruit and roasted malt. A unique combination of Belgian yeast and English malt. The flavor is also a collaboration of styles. Starts with fruity fones but then it switches to roasted, almost burnt tasting malt. Hints of smoke and chocolate as well. The body is not as full as I would like in order to better compliment the flavors. The carbonation is nice. The combination of flavors is something I enjoyed but it might not be for everyone. Definately worth a try at least once.

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Photo of Monkeyknife
3.5/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle an opaque purple-black with a quickly fading thin tan head. Not even a whisper of lacing with this one.

Aroma of brown sugar, butterscotch, dark ripe fruit, and chocolate.

Tastes of raisins, chocolate, dark cherries, roasted malts, and charcoal. A slight plastic-sourness in the finish.

Medium bodied, slick, and lightly carbonated.

An average Belgian Dark IMO in which nothing really stands out.

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2.5/5  rDev -33.2%

Photo of waiting4lunch
4/5  rDev +7%

Photo of dsa7783
3.9/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Single, twelve-ounce copped from Joe Canal's in Lawrenceville...
"Fall '09" on the logo sticker along with a decorative skeleton...
Sweet, pungent, dark malt aroma with hints of chocolate raspberries...
Pours a deep, dark, mocha hue with a slight head and minimal lacing that gradually dissipated...
Heavy on the aroma and flavor with hints of dark fruits, dehydrated figs, prunes, and cappuccino... Interesting stuff from Magic Hat and certainly not a horrible rendition of the style...

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Photo of deapokid
3.83/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Liquid is a dark, chocolate color with a thin, brown sugar head. It's absolutely impervious to light, like a melted Hershey's bar in a glass.

The scent of cocoa, licorice, maple syrup and a faint whiff of alcohol permeate this brew.

Wait... hold on one second! This is a f'in stout, not a Belgian dark ale. All the stout flavors are there and they hit me immediately. There's coffee bean, oatmeal, chocolate, anise, etc. As a matter of fact, this is a pretty tasty stout, taking me back to the good old days when Magic Hat still brewed the Heart of Darkness.

As for the mouth, this smooth ale softly coats the tongue on the front end, followed up with a tingly big flavor finish.

Compared to most chocolate stouts, this is actually a bit more refreshing, since the flavors never overpower the clean finish. It elegantly packs the aromas and tastes of the big boys, but with an ABV that makes it easy to take down a few.

P.S. Isn't it time to make a Belgian Stout Style category? This would fit there perfectly.

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Photo of JoeyBeerBelly
4.15/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle from the '09 Night of the Living Dead mix pack served in a small snifter.

The beer is black with a creamy tan head that thinned to a ring and left a few streaks of lacing.
The smell is chocolate upfront with a bit of funk in the background.
The taste is smooth roasted malt with notes of chocolate, bourbon, and dark fruits, tasty brew.
The smooth feel plus a darn good carbonation level makes this brew very easy to drink.

The beer 'type' is listed as "Chocolate Belgian Stout" on the MH website which is not a BA 'style'.
Considering this brew is pretty much in nowhere man's land as far as style goes on this site overall it's a damn fine beer that should be enjoyed while available.

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Photo of allengarvin
3.4/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Very dark brown color with a dark-tan head. Is that style right? This smells like stout, with chocolate and roast malt aromas. No hint of any interesting yeastiness. Lots of roastiness in the flavor as well, with a bit of cocoa. Doesn't resemble any Belgian I've ever had.

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Odd Notion - Chocolate Belgian Stout (Fall 2009) from Magic Hat Brewing Company
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