Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout | Short's Brewing Company

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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme StoutShort's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout

Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"A brew uniquely different from most coffee stouts, we cram Higher Grounds roasted fair trade espresso beans into every facet of the brewing process. Prominent aromatics of malt, espresso, and cocoa are abundant and create a flavor robust with big malt characters fused with cream and coffee. The perfect morning night capper." 
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Photo of craytonic
3.11/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Dark, black pour with a big, mocha head, probably the best part of the beer. Smell is more espresso than anything else, taste is similar. Perhaps needs more cream and sugar! I found an offensive, burnt element that is present in far too many coffee beers. Also some toffee, dark roasted bean, chocolate, and lactic malt. Mouthfeel is a bit thin. The acrid bitterness is just a bit too off-putting for me.

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Photo of ztaylor1
3.14/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance- pours black and opaque with the tiniest mocha head.

Smell- roasted coffee and milk chocolate are first in the nose followed by malts and milk.

Taste- very chocolatey brew. Milk chocolate and coffee are again the first on the scene, with milk chocolate lasting through until the finish.

Mouthfeel- a bit flat, I think I had a bad bottle, or at least I hope.

Drinkability- other than the mouthfeel, this brew is very drinkable... but I can't drink a flat beer.

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Photo of gregshead
3.15/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to NickD717 Tasted on 4/21/11. Reviewed from notes:

A: Pours a thin black w/ a very thin head

S: Strong sugary & espresso smells. Some milky/cream smell

T: Odd creamy taste, coffee bitterness on front end and a little on the back.

M: Very smooth. Thin feel. Very little carbonation

O: This beer is well made and fits the style. It just didn't offer me anything I loved.

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Photo of cetherid
3.17/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

poured into a tulip


Beer is a pitch black beer...don't really think there is another way to describe the color. I had a very thin brown head on this beer that dissipated rather quickly, leaving just a tiny ring of light brown around the surface/glass.


Pretty one dimensional. COFFEE! Basically smells like you're smelling the leftover coffee grounds from a freshly made pot of coffee.


Big time coffee (obviously) with perhaps a hint of VERY bitter chocolate. You can taste the lactose as well, giving this beer a slightly sweet and creamy touch. Unfortunately I get a slight sour taste in it, although not as sour as other Cup A Joe's I've had. This is probably the 4th bottle I've cracked of this beer before actually reviewing it.


a little on the thin side and carbonation almost non-existent. A slight tang from the sweet and sour parts of this beer which isn't really enjoyable IMO.


After 5 try's, this beer still isn't what I hoped it would be. I could go for more carbonation, less sour/more bitter and a little thicker in body. Don't think I'll ever try this again unless it's on tap. Too many other coffee dominant beers I'd grab over this.

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Photo of taylorhamrick
3.19/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Got in a trade with hotpipes29.

Pours a dark black color, with a brown fizzy head that goes away in a second. No shot at lacing. I was exited for a moment a the look, and then it was gone. Smells powerfully ofsweetened coffee, almost as if there's nothing else there. A little chocolate comes through, but there's not a whole lot of complexity to be found. The taste comes up slightly fruity, like plums or a little grape-y, but the roasted coffee is still predominant, with s nice little kick of sweetness to finish - though I'd say the sweetness starts to catch on a bit more as the drink goes on. Not impressive, but not too bad. The body is pretty good. Nice and creamy, a little on the heavy side of medium, with a nice little kick of carbonation. Pretty good. Overall, this is a decent beer. I think it's kind of average though - it's got it's highs and lows, but I don't know if I would come back to it, without some significant improvements.

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Photo of CuriousMonk
3.2/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 12oz bottle into snifter. Pours opaque and oily black with a thin tan head that recedes to a very thin collar of lace. The nose is very freshly roasted and earthy coffee along with some molasses and burnt brown sugar and light nuttiness. The flavor is more acidic than the nose would have suggested, but with all of the same roasted coffee, molasses, and nutty qualities. The body is medium with light carbonation and a very long roasted coffee finish.

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Photo of beerpirates
3.21/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A :Pitch black beer with a one finger creamy, dense and copmact, beautiful head that lasts reasonably well, leaving some lacing.
Aroma is, obviously coffee. Unfortunately, coffee and more coffee; you have to really use your imagination to find a tiny little bit of cocoa, roasted malts in there.
Very creamy mouthfeel,
but the flavor, like the aroma, is coffee, more coffee. Everything else is buried in there. Now, it is very good and flavorful coffee, but still, only coffee. No room for complexity.
Some coffee lovers might like it, but in my opinion, if I want pure and simple coffee, I would have, well, coffee.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.26/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into two goblets. Thanks to MarcatGSB for the bottle!

Appearance - Pours a very dark brown with almost no head and no lacing. Not quite fully opaque. Light comes through on the edges, but not through the body of the liquid. Looks thin, really.

Smell - Strong coffee flavor. Almost smells like an over-brewed, burnt roast. Another review mentioned Starbucks coffee, probably for this reason. Roasted malts come through, but it's faint by comparison to the coffee.

Taste - Similar flavor. The coffee isn't as pronounced as it is in the nose. It's still strong, but it tastes more like a stout than just a cup of coffee. A lot of lactose sweetness comes through in the back and diminishes any bitterness.

Mouthfeel - Very thin. Fairly low carbonation, but it's not too low. It's an appropriate level. The body is what lets it down. I want something a bit chewier to stand up to the coffee. It doesn't taste like an 8% beer though. I would expect something with such little body to be a lot boozier at 8%, but it isn't.

Overall - Certainly tasty and pretty easy to drink, since it's so thin. The lactose and intensity of the coffee are a turn-off, though.

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Photo of gnemesis
3.28/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from 12oz bottle (bottled 11/20/10) into wine glass on 03/07/2011.
Pours a dark brown almost black color, with a thin tan head that disappears quickly, and leaves an oily lace. The smell of this one is pure coffee. Roasted malts and toasted notes are present along with a dab of chocolate and caramel. I find this beer tastes very bitter... too bitter for me to love. Bitter coffee, bitter chocolate, roasted malts, and a touch of cream for an attempt at balance. The body is full and it has medium carbonation. Overall I found this beer too bitter but I feel like the coffee lover will find it amazing.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.29/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a four-finger thick, richly brown colored head. The beer is an almost perfectly black color and remains opaque even when held up directly to the light. As I pour this beer the aroma of deeply roasted, almost acrid roast coffee is noticeable. A more focused inspection of the nose yields some weird aromatic combinations. Coffee definitely plays a big role here, but there seems to be a burnt vegetal edge to it. Underneath this is some dark chocolate character with a touch of sweetness to it. Roasted coffee joins roasted / toasted grain and there is even a hint of cherry character bound up in these roast notes. A touch too acrid and burnt-vegetal like, but actually the nose isn't really that bad.

Lightly sweet up front and this beer has a definite body to it from the lactose sugar, but the beer also finishes with a big tartness that I at first thought might have been contributed by the burnt grain and coffee, but it is too much and is in fact lactic in character. Unfortunately another infected brew from Short's, again it sort of works here somehow. I won't have any trouble finishing my bottle of this infected brew. The lactic acid blends pretty harmoniously with the lactose and the big roasted coffee and grain character found here. Both the roast character and the lactic acid compete with the lactose sweetness, such that the beer almost comes off as being dry. Somehow the infection has added flavors of cherries to this beer as well.

This is another clearly infected brew that works better than it actually should. Again, if you are open to the experience then give it a go, but if you are looking for a Coffee Crème Stout then look else-where.

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Photo of pmoore311
3.41/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance was great, deep with a beautiful cappucino head about 1 fingers worth.

Smell was all coffee, smelled like a cold expresso, with a hint of creme.

Taste was spot on for the style, which was dominated by huge coffee and expresso flavors and finishes with a nice creme flavor. I didnt notice much else, slight mocha notes as it warmed, but certainly dominated by the coffee.

Mouthfeel was good, thick and creamy, perfect for a nice robust stout.

Drinkability was good, the alchohol was non-existent. But given the coffee was so dominant, I could not drink more that 1.

If you are a coffee stout person this is one of the best. I just wish there was just a bit more in the complexity department. I think this would be a great morning brew to enjoy with a full breakfast.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.42/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Got this one from spdyfire83. Thanks for hanging out man!

From a bottle into a snifter.

APPEARANCE: Pours out black and very thick for the style. Yields a small, medium looking, mocha colored head with lousy retention. Head quickly recedes to a hazy wisp and ring. Body is jet black with no carbonation evident. A ring remains until the end but leaves no lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Big coffee nose. Roasted coffee beans, roasted malts and some definite cream and lactose sugar. Much like a milk latte, just as the label describes.

TASTE: Not as impressive as the nose had advertised. Some roasted malts, sweet caramel and milk sugar on the palate. Sweet and sugary, but very little coffee flavor in there. Aftertaste is mild but lingers well with caramel, lactose and just a touch of bitter coffee as well. Not much coffee in this one, and quite sweet. Fine, but not as impressive as the nose, and more cream heavy over the coffee. More balance and a more integrated flavor profile would have been appreciated.

PALATE: Medium body and lower amounts of carbonation. Not overly creamy on the palate, but goes down fine and finishes slightly mouth-coating. Good here.

OVERALL: This one is alright I guess, but for a coffee stout, it doesn’t quite live up to expectations. It’s definitely got the cream and lactose areas covered, but for a coffee stout, I expected to taste a bit more of that element throughout the beer. Worth checking out, but like may Short’s beers, not worth going crazy for. Give it a go if you can easily find it.

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Photo of sugit
3.44/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Poured dark black and very thin. Some head and retention.

S: Very nice coffee smell with sweet sugar aroma at the end.

T: Like the nose, nice bitter coffee taste with a sugary backbone, nust the milk sugar. Unfortunately, the flavors didn't blend together as well as I was hoping.

M; Way too thin for this style. Nice cabonration and smooth, but not enough body to carry it.

D: Can't taste the 8% at all. The lack of body though brings the drinkability down quite a bit for me

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Photo of ColdPoncho
3.45/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - way wicked super dark black. Almost no head, just a medium brown thin ring.

S - Big huge bitter coffee smell. light sweetness in the background.

T - Definitely some sweetness from the "milk sugar" (lactose?) on the back. The coffee is also quite present, though not as bitter as expected from the nose. Were it more bitter, the balance could be pretty good and this would be very tasty. As it is, the sweetness is too much and it's just kinda meh.

M - Can a mouthfeel be pedantic? I don't know, it's thick and oily and heavy...not that pleasant.

D - Well, it's ok.

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Photo of RC0032
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Black, small head, almost no lace.

S - Starbucks type coffee, strong burnt

T - Not as much coffee as I smell but still strong.

M - Good carbonation not as "rich" as I would like

D - Decent couldn't do more than 1.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of ms11781
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Pours a thick solid black. A bit of a dark brown head rises and falls turning tan as it settles as a thin ring around the glass. No lacing to speak of.

Coffee leads the way in the nose. Freshly brewed coffee with some light chocolate notes. There is a nice roasted character as well.

The taste follows the nose with the exception of sort of tartness at the finish. Some nice coffee comes across first and it's followed by the nice chocolate notes. The roasted flavor is here but it's nowhere near as prevalent as in the nose. At the finish there is a fleeting but sharp tartness. It hits quick and then it's gone.

The body was a bit thinner than expected given how the beer poured. It's not bad, just unexpected. However, when coupled with the lower carbonation it just doesn't give the beer enough to get to the fuller mouthfeel that it feels it needs.

This was an ok beer for me. There isn't much depth to the flavors or aromas. They seem as if they could be a bit bolder and fuller. Definitely not up with the best of the coffee stouts but overall it's a decent one.

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Photo of dlello2
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Super dark and syrupy pour. Nice touch of coffee/mocha head dissipates quickly. Not all that much lacing.

S - Coffee coffee coffee. Smells like a dark roast, bitter. Not getting much else except maybe a hint of sweetness at the end.

T - A lot sweeter than I would have thought. It's a sugary sweet too, not much molasses/caramel sugar like I'd have hoped. Definitely getting coffee for the second 2/3 of the drink. Some hops at the end. Coffee bitterness stays with me awhile.

M - Creamy. Enough carbonation to balance the beginning of the drink but the end is syrupy and a bit slimy.

O - This was good. Something in the latter half of the drink that is off-putting. Can't get over the creamy sweetness there... hmm.

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Photo of vkv822
3.49/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into snifter.

Pours black with a thin chocolate colored head.

The aroma is of pleasant coffee with a sweet creamy malt backing.

The coffee is a bit more bitter in the taste than in the aroma and does not seem to quite blend as well with the chocolate and cream sweetness.

The mouthfeel is a bit thin for the style, and while the carbonation is quite active, it still feels very light on the palate and drops off fairly quickly to give a slight watery feel overall. Though it does become a bit more thick as it warms.

Overall this was a decent beer with some enjoyable flavors and I am glad to have tried it, but nothing in particular really stood out for me unfortunately.

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Photo of hwy61mb
3.49/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a snifter. There appears to be a date stamped on the label, but it is very faint. I think it says 11-23-2010. I like to buy a single bottle of everything Short's brews since they have such a wide range of interesting concoctions.

This beer is nearly opaque and jet black. There is no head, but a khaki colored ring around the edge of the glass. The smell is mostly roasted coffee, also sweet and boozy, like Kahlua. Coffee is a hugely predominant smell here.

The taste is kinda weird. I can taste the usual stout roasted malts and roasted coffee beans. It tastes like strong coffee or used coffee grounds - I don't mean this in a bad way, also a little sweet. It seems a little watery compared to my expectations. There is little to no booze in the flavor. It feels nice and light in my mouth, with a little carbonation, but heavy on the flavor. I find this to be of about average drinkablity, the flavor is a little too odd and sweet to make me want to keep drinking this one.

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Photo of amphion1065
3.51/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

16 oz. pour at Lord Hobo, served in a pint glass. Reviewed from notes.

Pours black. A tiny, dark tan head with minimal retention forms. I suppose it does indeed look like a cup of coffee.

Really deep, roasted coffee beans in the aroma. It's almost like walking into a coffee shop, the smell is that potent. A touch of chocolate, and a not insignificant element of burnt rubber creep in as well.

So many elements of the flavor are spot on. Coffee is here in abundance, as is a component of cream that adds a pleasant milky sweetness. But there's also a strange, vegetal, corn-like aftertaste that reminds me of a faded coffee stout. It certainly detracts from the overall package.

The carbonation is nice and low, though the mouthfeel could absolutely be thicker.

This is so close to being a superb coffee stout, though some slightly off-putting aspects of the flavor and aroma hold it back.

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Photo of evanlarkin
3.52/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to redsand22 for this!

Dark brown, opaque, and a small amount of tan head. Pretty standard for the style.

Coffee and condensed milk. Slightly sweet. It's kind of like a a creamy iced coffee smell. No hop presence here.

Still, no noticeable hops, but no issues here. Lots of coffee, some creamy milkiness hanging around with it. Again, like a coffee with cream. That's the best way to describe this. Semi sweet with some chocolate notes in the background too.

Thickish, more like the milk than the coffee. I suspect that lactose is an ingredient here. Mediumish carbonation.

Not bad, but I'll admit that I take my coffee black. Milk stouts have never been my thing, but this is certainly ranking above most of them.

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.53/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Notes from 5/22/11
Poured in to Founder's Tulip glass

A - Dark black with a very small amount of light brown head.

S - Bitter dark roasted coffee completely dominates the palate. Some sweetness is evident as well. Not a very complex nose.

T - Follows the nose. Very bitter dark roasted coffee. Some sweetness in the middle, followed by a dry, bitter coffee finish.

M - Light to medium body; light carbonation.

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Photo of illidurit
3.53/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy iceicebaby. Pours a pretty black color with a solid fluffy brown head. Huge black roasted coffee nose, ash, cacao. Flavor is similar, old black burnt coffee with an additional tart red fruit note. Substantial roasted malt acidity, and no sign of the "creme." Underwhelming. Oily and a little thin.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.55/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This isn't really doing it for me. Comes off a bit too bitter and somewhat tangy with a flavor ride that doesn't last that long. Or not long enough, imo. Body is nice. Still an okay beer, especially after it warms up a bit. Maybe I've had too many coffee beers until now and I have certain expectations.

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Photo of elNopalero
3.55/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This is for folks who like a little beer in their coffee. Seriously, warm it up and cut out the carbonation and you’d have… flat, warm, coffee-flavored beer. It wasn’t horrible—but it’s not, to me, as enjoyable as a coffee stout or similar beer should be.

It’s a flat coffee black in appearance. Smell’s like today’s dark roast, after sitting out and warming all day. It has a strong, overpowering and harsh coffee flavor. Again, the burnt coffee notes come out. I had a taster and could barley finish this. Don’t think I’m up for a full pint. Short’s beers tend to be a love-it or hate-it kind of thing, but usually I’m in the former camp. Not this time, though.

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