Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout | Short's Brewing Company

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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme StoutShort's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout

Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"A brew uniquely different from most coffee stouts, we cram Higher Grounds roasted fair trade espresso beans into every facet of the brewing process. Prominent aromatics of malt, espresso, and cocoa are abundant and create a flavor robust with big malt characters fused with cream and coffee. The perfect morning night capper." 
20 I.B.U.’s

Added by BeerAdvocate on 09-26-2006

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3/5  rDev -25.6%

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3/5  rDev -25.6%

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3/5  rDev -25.6%

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3/5  rDev -25.6%

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3/5  rDev -25.6%

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3/5  rDev -25.6%

Photo of mikereaser
3.01/5  rDev -25.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

This was reviewed blind as part of the Blind BIF #5

#4 from johnbjaeger 

A - Poured into my pint glass as instructed, the color is a solid black that doesn't let any light shine through at all. There was a brief dark tan foam that quickly faded into nothing but a ring of bubbles around the glass

S - Its like sniffing an ashtray minus the having to stand outside in the cold with your not so well informed friends. Really, thats about all i'm picking up. Not my favorite smell, but lets see what awaits.

T - Now thats weird, there is little to no smoke, its hard to pinpoint any single flavor with this. slightly roasted malts, a hint of citrus here and there. I'm just really confused by this beer. I want to keep drinking it but there is nothing about it that really stands out.

M - smooth and kind of creamy mouthfeel but gives way to a bit of watered down feel. There is a slightly burnt finish that sticks around for a bit.

D - Again, I like it, but I just can't place it. Would I want another? Doubtful.

The reveal
Shorts Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout
huh? I guess I can now pick up the roasted coffee, but i'm getting bottom of the pot free coffee that we have at work. I'm really disappointed in this one. I'm glad to try it, I have wanted to for a long time, but its just not what I was expecting.


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Photo of bigfnjoe
3.04/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a bottle into a perfect pint. Thanks to duffcalifornia for throwing in this awesome extra

A- pours jet black with an AWESOME two finger dark brown head...that fades instantly. Well, that was a huge letdown. No lacing at all

S- dark coffee, and a slight bit of cola in there too...the coffee is the predominant scent, and it's different from other coffee aromas I've gotten. Getting a little vanilla too...I guess that would be the "creme" part of it

T- very weak taste of fact, I'm getting more chocolate than coffee in this. Getting some sweetness from the milk sugar too, but not a lot

M- thin. Flat. Weak

D- I was really wanting to try this, and it was a huge letdown. I hear issues like this are common with Short's...a shame, because I've heard good things about this beer

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Photo of n2185
3.07/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours black with three fingers of dark tan head that recedes into a frothy ring with a little lacing.

S: Lots of roasted coffee on the nose with some underlying creamy chocolate and roasted malt notes underneath.

T: Roasted malts and coffee dominate at first with faint cocoa notes underneath. The finish tastes strongly of char, to the point that it's almost sour.

M: Medium-thick body with medium carbonation, the sourness and relatively light body give this beer a slightly watery feel.

O: Not a bad beer, but the sourness of it sticks to me like a sore thumb. The nose promises wonderful robust coffee and then the flavor delivers an odd, sour finish that contrasts sharply with the other characters of the beer.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.09/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Sprecher nonic. No date or info.

Thanks to Sweemzander for another Short's Brew!

A - I hope it's not another infected Short's. The pour, which was moderate, unleashed a four-finger head that sprang up very quickly. Dark tan and noisy, it had low retention and no lace left over. Noticeably clear on the pour but totally black in the glass.

S - The very dark roasted coffee is actually one of the last places my mind goes after a whiff of this. There are so much dark roasted malts coming out they almost steal all the thunder. Bitter chocolate and cocoa too. The milk sugar is really noticeable as well. The coffee, like the malts, seems very heavily roasted.

T - I have a feeling this may be another infected brew right away. The flavor is good, but there is an overlapping sharp tart/sour punch. It's got a blast of dry bitterness to it too. Extremely roasted in the malt and coffee categories. Underlying cocoa powder and bitter chocolate too.

M - Immediately distinctive "off" trait of a sharp attack to the tongue of tart/sour that also doesn't go well with the extreme level of carbonation this has. Medium-bodied and really dry and bitter. There should not be this much carbonation in a beer like this.

D - Siiigh. The run of infected beers from Short's is surely disappointing. This one is by far the least offensive, but it's ridiculous none-the-less. I don't think I'll be finishing this one.

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Photo of craytonic
3.11/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Dark, black pour with a big, mocha head, probably the best part of the beer. Smell is more espresso than anything else, taste is similar. Perhaps needs more cream and sugar! I found an offensive, burnt element that is present in far too many coffee beers. Also some toffee, dark roasted bean, chocolate, and lactic malt. Mouthfeel is a bit thin. The acrid bitterness is just a bit too off-putting for me.

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3.14/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance- pours black and opaque with the tiniest mocha head.

Smell- roasted coffee and milk chocolate are first in the nose followed by malts and milk.

Taste- very chocolatey brew. Milk chocolate and coffee are again the first on the scene, with milk chocolate lasting through until the finish.

Mouthfeel- a bit flat, I think I had a bad bottle, or at least I hope.

Drinkability- other than the mouthfeel, this brew is very drinkable... but I can't drink a flat beer.

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3.15/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to NickD717 Tasted on 4/21/11. Reviewed from notes:

A: Pours a thin black w/ a very thin head

S: Strong sugary & espresso smells. Some milky/cream smell

T: Odd creamy taste, coffee bitterness on front end and a little on the back.

M: Very smooth. Thin feel. Very little carbonation

O: This beer is well made and fits the style. It just didn't offer me anything I loved.

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Photo of cetherid
3.17/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

poured into a tulip


Beer is a pitch black beer...don't really think there is another way to describe the color. I had a very thin brown head on this beer that dissipated rather quickly, leaving just a tiny ring of light brown around the surface/glass.


Pretty one dimensional. COFFEE! Basically smells like you're smelling the leftover coffee grounds from a freshly made pot of coffee.


Big time coffee (obviously) with perhaps a hint of VERY bitter chocolate. You can taste the lactose as well, giving this beer a slightly sweet and creamy touch. Unfortunately I get a slight sour taste in it, although not as sour as other Cup A Joe's I've had. This is probably the 4th bottle I've cracked of this beer before actually reviewing it.


a little on the thin side and carbonation almost non-existent. A slight tang from the sweet and sour parts of this beer which isn't really enjoyable IMO.


After 5 try's, this beer still isn't what I hoped it would be. I could go for more carbonation, less sour/more bitter and a little thicker in body. Don't think I'll ever try this again unless it's on tap. Too many other coffee dominant beers I'd grab over this.

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3.19/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Got in a trade with hotpipes29.

Pours a dark black color, with a brown fizzy head that goes away in a second. No shot at lacing. I was exited for a moment a the look, and then it was gone. Smells powerfully ofsweetened coffee, almost as if there's nothing else there. A little chocolate comes through, but there's not a whole lot of complexity to be found. The taste comes up slightly fruity, like plums or a little grape-y, but the roasted coffee is still predominant, with s nice little kick of sweetness to finish - though I'd say the sweetness starts to catch on a bit more as the drink goes on. Not impressive, but not too bad. The body is pretty good. Nice and creamy, a little on the heavy side of medium, with a nice little kick of carbonation. Pretty good. Overall, this is a decent beer. I think it's kind of average though - it's got it's highs and lows, but I don't know if I would come back to it, without some significant improvements.

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3.2/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 12oz bottle into snifter. Pours opaque and oily black with a thin tan head that recedes to a very thin collar of lace. The nose is very freshly roasted and earthy coffee along with some molasses and burnt brown sugar and light nuttiness. The flavor is more acidic than the nose would have suggested, but with all of the same roasted coffee, molasses, and nutty qualities. The body is medium with light carbonation and a very long roasted coffee finish.

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3.21/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A :Pitch black beer with a one finger creamy, dense and copmact, beautiful head that lasts reasonably well, leaving some lacing.
Aroma is, obviously coffee. Unfortunately, coffee and more coffee; you have to really use your imagination to find a tiny little bit of cocoa, roasted malts in there.
Very creamy mouthfeel,
but the flavor, like the aroma, is coffee, more coffee. Everything else is buried in there. Now, it is very good and flavorful coffee, but still, only coffee. No room for complexity.
Some coffee lovers might like it, but in my opinion, if I want pure and simple coffee, I would have, well, coffee.

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3.25/5  rDev -19.4%

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3.25/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.26/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into two goblets. Thanks to MarcatGSB for the bottle!

Appearance - Pours a very dark brown with almost no head and no lacing. Not quite fully opaque. Light comes through on the edges, but not through the body of the liquid. Looks thin, really.

Smell - Strong coffee flavor. Almost smells like an over-brewed, burnt roast. Another review mentioned Starbucks coffee, probably for this reason. Roasted malts come through, but it's faint by comparison to the coffee.

Taste - Similar flavor. The coffee isn't as pronounced as it is in the nose. It's still strong, but it tastes more like a stout than just a cup of coffee. A lot of lactose sweetness comes through in the back and diminishes any bitterness.

Mouthfeel - Very thin. Fairly low carbonation, but it's not too low. It's an appropriate level. The body is what lets it down. I want something a bit chewier to stand up to the coffee. It doesn't taste like an 8% beer though. I would expect something with such little body to be a lot boozier at 8%, but it isn't.

Overall - Certainly tasty and pretty easy to drink, since it's so thin. The lactose and intensity of the coffee are a turn-off, though.

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Photo of gnemesis
3.28/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from 12oz bottle (bottled 11/20/10) into wine glass on 03/07/2011.
Pours a dark brown almost black color, with a thin tan head that disappears quickly, and leaves an oily lace. The smell of this one is pure coffee. Roasted malts and toasted notes are present along with a dab of chocolate and caramel. I find this beer tastes very bitter... too bitter for me to love. Bitter coffee, bitter chocolate, roasted malts, and a touch of cream for an attempt at balance. The body is full and it has medium carbonation. Overall I found this beer too bitter but I feel like the coffee lover will find it amazing.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.29/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a four-finger thick, richly brown colored head. The beer is an almost perfectly black color and remains opaque even when held up directly to the light. As I pour this beer the aroma of deeply roasted, almost acrid roast coffee is noticeable. A more focused inspection of the nose yields some weird aromatic combinations. Coffee definitely plays a big role here, but there seems to be a burnt vegetal edge to it. Underneath this is some dark chocolate character with a touch of sweetness to it. Roasted coffee joins roasted / toasted grain and there is even a hint of cherry character bound up in these roast notes. A touch too acrid and burnt-vegetal like, but actually the nose isn't really that bad.

Lightly sweet up front and this beer has a definite body to it from the lactose sugar, but the beer also finishes with a big tartness that I at first thought might have been contributed by the burnt grain and coffee, but it is too much and is in fact lactic in character. Unfortunately another infected brew from Short's, again it sort of works here somehow. I won't have any trouble finishing my bottle of this infected brew. The lactic acid blends pretty harmoniously with the lactose and the big roasted coffee and grain character found here. Both the roast character and the lactic acid compete with the lactose sweetness, such that the beer almost comes off as being dry. Somehow the infection has added flavors of cherries to this beer as well.

This is another clearly infected brew that works better than it actually should. Again, if you are open to the experience then give it a go, but if you are looking for a Coffee Crème Stout then look else-where.

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Photo of Filabee
3.3/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of pmoore311
3.41/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance was great, deep with a beautiful cappucino head about 1 fingers worth.

Smell was all coffee, smelled like a cold expresso, with a hint of creme.

Taste was spot on for the style, which was dominated by huge coffee and expresso flavors and finishes with a nice creme flavor. I didnt notice much else, slight mocha notes as it warmed, but certainly dominated by the coffee.

Mouthfeel was good, thick and creamy, perfect for a nice robust stout.

Drinkability was good, the alchohol was non-existent. But given the coffee was so dominant, I could not drink more that 1.

If you are a coffee stout person this is one of the best. I just wish there was just a bit more in the complexity department. I think this would be a great morning brew to enjoy with a full breakfast.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.42/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Got this one from spdyfire83. Thanks for hanging out man!

From a bottle into a snifter.

APPEARANCE: Pours out black and very thick for the style. Yields a small, medium looking, mocha colored head with lousy retention. Head quickly recedes to a hazy wisp and ring. Body is jet black with no carbonation evident. A ring remains until the end but leaves no lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Big coffee nose. Roasted coffee beans, roasted malts and some definite cream and lactose sugar. Much like a milk latte, just as the label describes.

TASTE: Not as impressive as the nose had advertised. Some roasted malts, sweet caramel and milk sugar on the palate. Sweet and sugary, but very little coffee flavor in there. Aftertaste is mild but lingers well with caramel, lactose and just a touch of bitter coffee as well. Not much coffee in this one, and quite sweet. Fine, but not as impressive as the nose, and more cream heavy over the coffee. More balance and a more integrated flavor profile would have been appreciated.

PALATE: Medium body and lower amounts of carbonation. Not overly creamy on the palate, but goes down fine and finishes slightly mouth-coating. Good here.

OVERALL: This one is alright I guess, but for a coffee stout, it doesn’t quite live up to expectations. It’s definitely got the cream and lactose areas covered, but for a coffee stout, I expected to taste a bit more of that element throughout the beer. Worth checking out, but like may Short’s beers, not worth going crazy for. Give it a go if you can easily find it.

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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout from Short's Brewing Company
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