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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme StoutShort's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout

Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"A brew uniquely different from most coffee stouts, we cram Higher Grounds roasted fair trade espresso beans into every facet of the brewing process. Prominent aromatics of malt, espresso, and cocoa are abundant and create a flavor robust with big malt characters fused with cream and coffee. The perfect morning night capper." 
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Photo of liamt07
3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by Steve, 355ml into a tulip.

Pretty black, with some mild clarity at the edges. Tan head, and a ring retins. Nose has creamy, roasty coffee, cocoa powder, and a touch of pickle (good nose Steve!).
Taste has more roasty coffee, dark chocolate and a light sourness. Medium light body, but perhaps a tad on the watery side. A good creamy coffee beer, but there are some imperfections evident.

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Photo of Mora2000
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to tastetester for sending this bottle.

Pours black with a light brown head. The aroma is strong coffee with some light smoke. The flavor is strong coffee with some cream, about what you expect after reading the label. Good bitterness and some roasted malt and chocolate. Medium-thick, semi-creamy mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

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Photo of aasher
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This beer pours a midnight black with a light khaki head. It smells of bitter chocolate. It has the superb chocolate you would hope for. It wreaks of coffee and chocolate. It is the perfect mix. it tastes wonderful, smells wonderful, feels perfect. This is a quality offering from Shorts.

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Photo of Wasatch
3.97/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

Pours a nice black color, some carbonation, fizzy little tan head, with very minimal sticky lacing left behind. The nose is very nice, malty, with lot's of chocolate, coffee, and caramel. The taste is nice, sweet, malty, with loads of coffee/chocolate notes, and caramel. Medium body. Drinkable, I was expecting alot more from this brew with all the hype a year or two ago.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.29/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A solid pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a four-finger thick, richly brown colored head. The beer is an almost perfectly black color and remains opaque even when held up directly to the light. As I pour this beer the aroma of deeply roasted, almost acrid roast coffee is noticeable. A more focused inspection of the nose yields some weird aromatic combinations. Coffee definitely plays a big role here, but there seems to be a burnt vegetal edge to it. Underneath this is some dark chocolate character with a touch of sweetness to it. Roasted coffee joins roasted / toasted grain and there is even a hint of cherry character bound up in these roast notes. A touch too acrid and burnt-vegetal like, but actually the nose isn't really that bad.

Lightly sweet up front and this beer has a definite body to it from the lactose sugar, but the beer also finishes with a big tartness that I at first thought might have been contributed by the burnt grain and coffee, but it is too much and is in fact lactic in character. Unfortunately another infected brew from Short's, again it sort of works here somehow. I won't have any trouble finishing my bottle of this infected brew. The lactic acid blends pretty harmoniously with the lactose and the big roasted coffee and grain character found here. Both the roast character and the lactic acid compete with the lactose sweetness, such that the beer almost comes off as being dry. Somehow the infection has added flavors of cherries to this beer as well.

This is another clearly infected brew that works better than it actually should. Again, if you are open to the experience then give it a go, but if you are looking for a Coffee Crème Stout then look else-where.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.49/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Shorts Cup A Joe Coffee Cream Stout

Appearance: Into a large snifter. Pours a dark blackish brown with an off white tightly beaded foam cap.

Smell: Chocolate, roasted, black malts with vanilla latte coffee. An expressive and decadant aroma that highlights everything dark, ground and roasted.

Taste: Yummy. Tons of coffee, lactose sugar, roasted malts, bitter unsweetened chocolate, mild earthy hop bitters and more coffee. Everything there is good, and integrates well into the taste. Mild tang from the grounds used, typical of a better espresso. Coffee bean flavors abound!

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied and SO smooth, creamy and silky on the feel. Carbonation is right where it needs to be, medium/low and perfect.

Overall: If nothing else mattered, I would have a stockpile of this beer and start every day with one or two. Lovely stuff here.

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Photo of yourefragile
4.42/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle. thanks Weisguy!

I've been running more miss than hit with Short's lately so I reluctantly decided to open this the same day I received it. Pours a motor oil consistency milk chocolate brown with a thin mocha colored head. Average retention and minimal lacing.

Aroma is potent and hits you as soon as the cap is removed. Fresh ground coffee with a strong creme balance. Mild chocolate sweetness and pleasant, but not overbearing roast notes.

I've been getting tired of some coffee stouts lately that are one dimensional astringent, burnt coffee assaults and the creme really helps smooth out that sensation in the flavor and balance to this. Still not overly complex, but very enjoyable and a new favorite coffee stout for me. Mouthfeel is very thick and smooth with light carbonation. I'm happy to have found another Short's beer I can get excited about.

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Photo of John_M
4.6/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Was able to sample this thanks to the ever generous Dyan.

The beer pours a dark black color with very good head retention and lacing. On the nose I get a huge blast of coffee grounds, chocolate vanilla, and maybe a hint of licorice and tar. On the palate this beer is just delicious. The beer offers up a huge, creamy, rich flavor profile of coffee and chocolate, with maybe some cherry vanilla in the finish. The creamy mouthfeel aside, this beer is amazingly drinkable and light on its feet. It's incredible how well disguised the alcohol is, and how outrageously easy to drink it is. Wow. Yummy. This beer is so smooth and easy to drink it's nothing short of amazing. Impressive.

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Photo of HopHead84
4.45/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Growler opened by a generous Carlos (seaoflament) on 12/18/2009 and poured into a snifter. The beer is black with the faintest trace of dark brown when held to the sunlight. For a 14 day old growler, the soft pour by Carlos yielded a quite generous creamy light brown head of 1.5 inch stature. Retention is good, and scattered lacing is left behind.

The nose is as advertised: coffee and cream. The coffee seems to be high quality, and there's a nutty character in the background that is undeniable. Almonds...perhaps with a light toast? The coffee is black with very little astringency. There's a whisper of dark chocolate and a dash of vanilla. It's mostly coffee and cream against a backdrop of almonds.

The characteristics in the aroma translate nicely to the flavor. It tastes like espresso with cream added. The almond quality is present here, as well. I can't taste the alcohol, but I do feel a warming sensation. A light bitterness is noticeable, and there's a very light astringency in the smooth finish. The beer is rich midpalate, but it finishes dry with lingering coffee, cream, and almonds.

The mouthfeel is excellent. It's smooth, creamy, full, and surprisingly light on the tongue. Carbonation is at a moderate level. The growler held up really well.

All told, this if this was heated up and served to me in a coffee mug in the morning I would think it was a delicious coffee with cream. The alcohol is so faint it's almost unnoticeable. It's not a beer that I could drink in quantity (one snifter was more than enough), but it was delicious.

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Photo of corby112
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Jeff for busting this out at our tasting.

Pours a deep dark pitch black color with a frothy 1.5 finger light beige creamy head with excellent retention, only slowly fading into a lasting ring. Sporadic spots of of soapy lacing left behind.

Deep roasted silky chocolate malty aroma with hints of toffee roasted coffee bean, caramel, toffee, and subtle hops. The roasted notes are not overpowering allowing the chocolate mocha note to shone through.

Very roarty up front with a slightly viscous medium body. Lots of bittersweet dark chocolate and bitter earth hops. Strong bitter roster espresso bean flavor with chewy chocolate malts, earthy hops, toffee and burnt toast/coffee notes. The roasted flavor is a bit overpowering, taking away from the silky chocolate notes but overall this beer is decently balanced. The strong roaster character makes it slightly less quaffable and a touch harsh but I'm still putting this one down pretty quickly.

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Photo of akorsak
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Telix and Heliosphann for this bottle in recent trades.

A: The stout is midnight black on a moonless night, black as oil with a dark tan head atop it. The head, threatening to overflow the glass, never quite musters up the strength and quickly retreats.

S: Stout and cream start off strong, roasted malts and smooth lactic sweetness. Java, freshly ground and roasted, lies just below the initial wave, a full coffee presence that smells like my french press.

T: Roasted coffee and malts, a fortified stout, jumps out initially. Plenty of cream follows in the heals of the stout. You'd think that oatmeal was added, what with the smoothness of the body. Coffee, while present, has been muted a bit. That allows the stout to assert itself a little more. An acrid bitterness, roasted (vs. hoppy) establishes itself at the end of a sip before allowing the cream to smooth things over.

M: The mouthfeel comes and goes, at times creamy and at times roasted. Coffee isn't as stand-out as the growler that I had over a year ago.

D: The first bottle was a drainpour. The second one was much better. Much more of a cream stout than a coffee stout.

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Photo of DrDemento456
4.28/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The BEST beer they make! Hands down!

A - As expected it has a very dark black hue, dense deep black, with about a 1/2 inch of creamy mocha colored head. Pretty.

S - Smell is of course coffee with mild lactic sweetness and an almost vanilla like smell. Roast is nice as I breath deep.

T - Wow like W+B but less ABV! I am at a loss of how balanced the milk sugars, coffee, and roasted malts flavors are! Man do I like my milk stouts sweet and this one is borderline dessert!

M - Creamy, silky, smooth coffee and vanilla sweetness.

Overall I have had a lot of coffee stouts and also milk stouts but this one is one of the better ones. To those with low reviews it must have been a bottle not refrigerated and to those in Michigan I still can not believe you can just buy this off the shelf! Damn good stout!

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Photo of DrJay
4.38/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Black with a faint red/brown edge and a thin, dark tan cap. Spotty lacing, great head retention. Rich aroma, lots of coffee, roast and toffee, dark chocolate. Solid bitterness, but this didn't get in the way of the sweet malts. Lots of dark, bittersweet, and milk chocolate, roasty with a bit of coffee, toffee sweetness, and a hint of grassy hops. Full bodied with lowish carbonation, very smooth, creamy and luxurious. Quite delicious, great balance and very rich.

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Photo of sweemzander
4.16/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. No bottled date.

(A)- Pours a thick, pitch black color that produced a dense & fluffy brown head with some good retention behind it. The foam is just clinging to the sides of the glass.

(S)- Dense & potent rich roasted coffee grounds. A creamy hazelnut/peanut nuttiness behind the big coffee grounds. Bits of raisin on the finish.

(T)- Exactly as the smell foretold. Big & rich coffee with a caramel/brown sugar sweetness that turns into a creamy peanut-like nuttiness. Some bits of raisin & molasses to finish it off. Let it warm up, it only gets better.

(M)- A good carbonation level & balance. A great smooth feel to it. Not overly sweet or cloying; just right actually. Rich yet dry and creamy.

(D)- Very rich & bold & very enjoyable. Its actually almost refreshing for a stout. I like the creaminess it imparts along with the big roastedness. Definitely one of Short's best beers I have had thus far.

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.07/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The growler-version of this beer blew my socks off, so I had to track down a couple of bottles. Thanks, Nathan!

Jet black with absolutely no highlights, there's a MASSIVE dark brown head with great retention and no real lace.

The nose is excellent - coffee, cream, roast, all wonderfully balanced. The combination of medium-roasted coffee with the creamy character is excellent, and the bitterness that is perceived is spot on for my tastes.

The palate opens with a healthy dose of coffee and grainy bitterness. Plenty of coffee flavor is present. Lactic sweetness mid palate works well with the coffee flavors. The body is a little thinner than I remember from my previous exposure. There's a touch of sourness and acidity on the finish, even this tastes a little infected. Medium in body, medium high in carbonation, this beer could use a little more body. Great stuff.

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Photo of ColForbinBC
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a pint

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a light tan colored cap. Dots and lines of lace strewn about.

Deep roasted coffee beans, bitter dark chocolate, toffee, and a lactic sweetness on the back end. Big and bold up front with charred coffee and roast with just the right amount of milk sugar sweetness to take the edge off.

Oily coffee, deep roast and large amounts of bitter chocolate dominate the palate. A rush of sweet milk sugar peeks through in the middle and rides through the finish, taking the edge off of all that heavy roast/coffee. Think coffee and cream.

Lush and smooth, full bodied. Carbonation is spot on for the style. Once this guy got to room temp, it was glorious.

Easy drinker, delicious. Another quality Short's product.

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Photo of Viggo
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pint on tap at HopCat in Grand Rapids.

Pours a deep and dark opaque black, although some red shows up in the edges, very thick brown head forms, really tight lacing all over the glass, drops in sheets and settles down to a thick layer, great retention. Smell is really nice, lots of coffee, dark roast, toffee, creamy lactic sugary middle, more espresso, chocolate, oatmeal, very rich aroma. Taste is similar, lots of coffee and roast up front, chocolate, toffee, sweet lactic latte middle, touch of alcohol, some dark fruit, more espresso and chocolate in the finish, very rich, nice roasty bitterness. Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with low carbonation, super smooth and drinkable. Very nice coffee beer, nice and creamy, the roastiness is perfect. Really enjoyed this one.

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Photo of Bung
4.42/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

#400 12 oz. Into Bell's snifter. Brought down from Michigan with the in-laws.
Pretty sturdy black pour, some brown bubbles that spread to a ring around the glass.
Very roasty aroma, coffee, espresso, malt, dark chocolate.
Taste has all sorts of roast to it as well. Mocha latte with come cocoa sprinkled on top. The coffee lingers along with some chocolate milk or chocolate covered coffee beans.
The slightly lively carbonation makes it not quite creamy, but almost. Still a slick heavy medium body. Abv is nowhere present.
A beast of a coffee stout. Probably somewhere between an American and Double stout. Makes you want to keep sipping it, a rare quality. Outstanding none the less and worth seeking out if reasonable.
Probably even better on draft if you can get it.

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Photo of jrallen34
4.47/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I drank this from a 12 oz bottle into my Rochefort chalice.

The beer is dark black with a very dark tan head. There is tons of carbonation spilling over the glas rising at least 5 fingers. It falls pretty quickly but does leave a nice soapy head. The lacing is nice.

The aroma is all coffee, does not leave room for anything else. The smell is cold coffee that has been sitting for a while, a little roasitness left.

The taste is much lighter than the coffee aroma, but its still all coffee, if it was as strong it would not have been drinkabile. This is very smooth and drinkable.

The feel is nice, with a lasting a flavor and a very dry finish.

The drinkablility is very high.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
4.14/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, extra from Wadsey, among other Shorts beers I can't easily get a hold of. The beer is dark brown and opaque, with a thick tan froth that quickly receded to a thin spotty film. The aroma is rich coffee with roasted malts and a lactic sweetness, the lactic acid adding a little something new that I haven't smelled in other coffee stouts. The coffee is the main thing I taste up front, with the creme coming through in a long sweet finish. There might be oatmeal in here too, at least the body seems creamy and coating like an oatmeal stout. Really good, not my favorite coffee stout but a solid stab at the style.

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Photo of maximum12
1.84/5  rDev -54.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Well, my friend malty, I'm down to just a few bottles from our epic Short's/Surly swap in early August, & this is one of them. I'll always remember those few minutes we spent just inside the door of your hotel while the rain poured down outside...

Popped the cap cautiously, phhhssss. Poured into my waiting & willing Surly pint glass, slowly, & a flagrant head rose all the way up over the four ounces of overflow. A couple pours later, we're all set. A couple minutes to let the head settle, & in goes the nose. Oooh, really nice roastiness on this one, coupled with a creaminess that doesn't cross the line to lactose (which I'm not too fond of). Nice start.

Cup A Joe isn't quite right. The great nose leads into a promising sip of beautifully roasted coffee, backed with a creaminess, that's signigicantly undercut by the whiplash of tart, sour, lactic ugliness. I can taste what this brew was, almost, & I suspect his one could have held it's head high in the pantheon of the best coffee brews out there, but not this one. Even slightly warmer, the fungal rudeness becomes much stronger.

Not going to be able to take more than 2-3 ounces of this one. Too bad, because the nose, & the initial hit on the tongue, were extremely promising. Down the drain it goes.

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Photo of Rutager
4.17/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance. Pours black with a thin, light brown head.

Smell. Acidic coffee and roasty, toasty dark malts. A little woody. Smells good.

Taste. Lots of dark, roasty coffee, some roasty malts, slightly acidic, just a little sweetness.

Mouthfeel. On the low side of medium bodied, low+ carbonation, really smooth.

Overall. Nice coffee stout. Drinks really easy and lots of nice coffee.

Thanks Namarsha82!

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Photo of THECPJ
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

reviewed from notes:

appearance: dark brown almost black with a 1 finger mocha head

smell: coffee, malts, chocolate

taste: coffee, bitter backend

mouthfeel: mild carbonation, medium to full body, smooth

overall: not a bad coffee stout. but there are better ones.


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Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.09/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 oz bottle poured into a Sprecher nonic. No date or info.

Thanks to Sweemzander for another Short's Brew!

A - I hope it's not another infected Short's. The pour, which was moderate, unleashed a four-finger head that sprang up very quickly. Dark tan and noisy, it had low retention and no lace left over. Noticeably clear on the pour but totally black in the glass.

S - The very dark roasted coffee is actually one of the last places my mind goes after a whiff of this. There are so much dark roasted malts coming out they almost steal all the thunder. Bitter chocolate and cocoa too. The milk sugar is really noticeable as well. The coffee, like the malts, seems very heavily roasted.

T - I have a feeling this may be another infected brew right away. The flavor is good, but there is an overlapping sharp tart/sour punch. It's got a blast of dry bitterness to it too. Extremely roasted in the malt and coffee categories. Underlying cocoa powder and bitter chocolate too.

M - Immediately distinctive "off" trait of a sharp attack to the tongue of tart/sour that also doesn't go well with the extreme level of carbonation this has. Medium-bodied and really dry and bitter. There should not be this much carbonation in a beer like this.

D - Siiigh. The run of infected beers from Short's is surely disappointing. This one is by far the least offensive, but it's ridiculous none-the-less. I don't think I'll be finishing this one.

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Photo of xnicknj
3.92/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

on tap at sunset tap and grille in boston during the post-EBF brunch

Pours a thick nut brown, nearly black with a thin tanned head, leaving a few spots of lacing without much retention.

Strong scents of coffee and hazelnut, milk chocolate, creamy sweetness and nuts. It's like a sweet cup of coffee, but much richer.

A bit sweet up front with huge chocolate and coffee notes. Toffee swirled with hazelnut, syrup and some more roasted nuttiness. Plenty of cream and burnt sugar. A bit of bitterness and small heat towards the finish.

Medium body, decent carbonation, sticky and smooth on the tongue. Really tasty drinking, and worked out well during brunch. I tried a ton of Short's beers over the weekend and this was definitely a solid one.

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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout from Short's Brewing Company
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