Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout | Short's Brewing Company

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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme StoutShort's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout

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Short's Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Milk / Sweet Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
"A brew uniquely different from most coffee stouts, we cram Higher Grounds roasted fair trade espresso beans into every facet of the brewing process. Prominent aromatics of malt, espresso, and cocoa are abundant and create a flavor robust with big malt characters fused with cream and coffee. The perfect morning night capper." 
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Photo of tectactoe
4.39/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Served on tap at my local Old Chicago. Pours dark, dark, dark as hell with a tan colored head made of very fine bubbles with fine definition. Creamy and bold looking at first glance. Insane coffee aroma comes from the beer, even before you bring your nose to the glass. Thick, creamy, and milky sweet coffee with a touch of bitterness, but mostly sweetness. Some cocoa notes are present in the background, along with burnt wood and toasted barley.

The taste hits first with an intense sweetness that takes on a cream & sugar filled Colombian coffee profile. Then comes the crescendo of a woody character, very "oaky" on the palate - however the coffee presence is still in full force pretty much all the way through. Bitterness and nuttiness are abound - the bitterness comes a touch from the coffee but there are some noticeable hop flavors that are certainly overshadowed but still somewhat necessary for their balancing effect. Deep espresso aftertaste leaving the mouth with a dark, slightly bitter, mostly sweet casting. Medium body, super rich and creamy feeling with a pretty low level of carbonation.

I've had this on bottle and tap. Certainly better on tap, but amazing either way. I'm a huge fan of stouts and I drink coffee like crazy, so naturally I have an affinity to coffee-stouts. This stout is better than most people give it credit for, so if you see it (and you like coffee), make sure you give it a shot.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.55/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This isn't really doing it for me. Comes off a bit too bitter and somewhat tangy with a flavor ride that doesn't last that long. Or not long enough, imo. Body is nice. Still an okay beer, especially after it warms up a bit. Maybe I've had too many coffee beers until now and I have certain expectations.

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Photo of liamt07
3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared by Steve, 355ml into a tulip.

Pretty black, with some mild clarity at the edges. Tan head, and a ring retins. Nose has creamy, roasty coffee, cocoa powder, and a touch of pickle (good nose Steve!).
Taste has more roasty coffee, dark chocolate and a light sourness. Medium light body, but perhaps a tad on the watery side. A good creamy coffee beer, but there are some imperfections evident.

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Photo of alexanf
4.29/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours an oil black with minimum head.

S: Traces of smoke, chocolate, coffee, and earth. There is an additional presence of what I'm identifying as tobacco.

T: Hints of smoke, tobacco, coffee, vanilla, syrup, and cream.

M: Thick, heavy, and fully bodied all the way through.

O: Short's is spot on with this offering. What a beer!

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Photo of peensteen
3.85/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Steve

Deep brown and near black in colour, ring of tan head, little to no lace left behind. Smell is roasted with lots of coffee, a bit of chocolate, lightly lactic as well and a little metallic, light alcohol. Taste is creamy with lots of bitter chocolate and black coffee and coffee grinds, roasty and a bit lactic with some smoke in the finish as well. Medium-light carbonation, medium body, decent feel. Taste and feels much better than the way it smells at first, lots of coffee in here, not the best coffee beer I have had but still quite good.

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Photo of Rutager
4.17/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance. Pours black with a thin, light brown head.

Smell. Acidic coffee and roasty, toasty dark malts. A little woody. Smells good.

Taste. Lots of dark, roasty coffee, some roasty malts, slightly acidic, just a little sweetness.

Mouthfeel. On the low side of medium bodied, low+ carbonation, really smooth.

Overall. Nice coffee stout. Drinks really easy and lots of nice coffee.

Thanks Namarsha82!

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Photo of russwbeck
3.77/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Thick black pour with not more than a finger of brown head. Hardly any retention, there's hardly any head left just minutes after the pour.

S: Lots of sugars on the aroma. Cream and milk mix with a huge amount of coffee to make one sweet cup of Joe. This smells more like somebody dumped some milk stout in my coffee for a quick pick me up.

T: Like the aroma, the taste is very sweet, but absolutely focused on the coffee. Roasted malts, espresso, milk, and cream. Very nicely blended, this is a great take on coffee beer. The taste lasts forever, expect it to stick with you long after the final drops have gone.

MF: The body is too light, which actually makes it more like coffee. Thin and insanely dry (obviously).

O: This is pretty average overall. Really interesting, but just not really anything special.

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Photo of DrDemento456
4.28/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The BEST beer they make! Hands down!

A - As expected it has a very dark black hue, dense deep black, with about a 1/2 inch of creamy mocha colored head. Pretty.

S - Smell is of course coffee with mild lactic sweetness and an almost vanilla like smell. Roast is nice as I breath deep.

T - Wow like W+B but less ABV! I am at a loss of how balanced the milk sugars, coffee, and roasted malts flavors are! Man do I like my milk stouts sweet and this one is borderline dessert!

M - Creamy, silky, smooth coffee and vanilla sweetness.

Overall I have had a lot of coffee stouts and also milk stouts but this one is one of the better ones. To those with low reviews it must have been a bottle not refrigerated and to those in Michigan I still can not believe you can just buy this off the shelf! Damn good stout!

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Photo of amphion1065
3.51/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

16 oz. pour at Lord Hobo, served in a pint glass. Reviewed from notes.

Pours black. A tiny, dark tan head with minimal retention forms. I suppose it does indeed look like a cup of coffee.

Really deep, roasted coffee beans in the aroma. It's almost like walking into a coffee shop, the smell is that potent. A touch of chocolate, and a not insignificant element of burnt rubber creep in as well.

So many elements of the flavor are spot on. Coffee is here in abundance, as is a component of cream that adds a pleasant milky sweetness. But there's also a strange, vegetal, corn-like aftertaste that reminds me of a faded coffee stout. It certainly detracts from the overall package.

The carbonation is nice and low, though the mouthfeel could absolutely be thicker.

This is so close to being a superb coffee stout, though some slightly off-putting aspects of the flavor and aroma hold it back.

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Photo of inlimbo77
3.92/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into Boulevard snifter. Special thanks to stickman1220 for this one. I have had it since Novemeber I think.

A: Pours a really dark brown almost black color. About a half finger of dark tan head. A few lacing bits on the swirl. Fairly thin on the pour.

S: I smell coffee and chocolate. Ground coffee, not overly strong, and a milk chocolate smoothness.

T: Smooth easy coffee bitterness on the tip of the tongue. It's really smooth in the middle of the sip as well. I get that mild ground coffee and milk chocolate and creaminess. The close has a little coffee forward, but not as bitter as expected. The flavor sticks with you a while.

M: Full bodied but pleasant due to the lactose.

O: B+ for me on this one. It's a solid coffee stout, but in that arena I don't think you are going to sway me from FBS or W&B.

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Photo of CuriousMonk
3.2/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from 12oz bottle into snifter. Pours opaque and oily black with a thin tan head that recedes to a very thin collar of lace. The nose is very freshly roasted and earthy coffee along with some molasses and burnt brown sugar and light nuttiness. The flavor is more acidic than the nose would have suggested, but with all of the same roasted coffee, molasses, and nutty qualities. The body is medium with light carbonation and a very long roasted coffee finish.

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Photo of SickGnar
4.12/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Super, super dark brown, just the barest bit short of black, and completely opaque with just hints of mahogany / garnet when held to light. It has a small, medium brown head of fine bubbles that settles quick to a skim and a ring that keeps well but leaves very minimal lacing.

S: Up front is a nice mix of coffee & stout. Roast is quite robust with burnt and acrid notes (but not offensive at all). Coffee is perhaps more of a beans or grounds smell than fresh coffee – but nice all the same. Towards the end the lactose sweetness comes on strong backed by a malty contribution of molasses and scorched toffee. A very rich and pleasant aroma with good strength.

T: Initial flavor is less robust than anticipated. It is more focused on sweet lactose, and the nutty & dark toffee backbone malts. As sweetness fades, the roast really shows strong. A big roasty stout character with bitter-sweet dark cocoa and almost charred malts. Coffee doesn’t really show through until the end, and is less pronounced than I had hoped from the nose. Still good though, and it does linger in the finish with a nice mix of roast notes and lactose sugar. Right before the lingering finish there is a quick acrid & slightly tart bite at the very back of the mouth.

M: A slight bit over medium body with soft carbonation. Fairly creamy and smooth. A big amount of sticky sugars and some dextrins for texture. At the end there is a brief flash of biting tartness. The finish finally ends a touch drying from all the roast – both malts and coffee.

D: Just a touch too much of a sweet, desert type beer to really grab the next higher score. But it is very close. Looks nice, smells great, tastes good, and it is a tad “more filling” – but oh well. A burly & robust & dark & sweet desert beer. Very nice.

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Photo of ChugginOil
4.02/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Raymo55 for the thoughtful extra.

Pours a thick and blackened color that settles solid black with a tad bit of cola edging around the edges. There is less than a fingers worth of tan colored head that has decent retention.

The nose is pretty awesome here. Big time coffee roast aromas fill my nostrils. The dark coffee roast dominates for the most part but there is a bit of leather and cocoa in there too.

The taste is coffee dominant as well. Very robust, roasted flavors. The black coffee is fresh and very present here. There is some cocoa and and sweet sugar involved behind the blast of coffee.

The mouthfeel is a bit strange as it begins creamy and falls a bit thin. Low carbonation. The only downside to this brew.

Overall, this is a really coffee forward brew that has a great nose and taste but the mouthfeel could be a bit thicker for sure.

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Photo of lackenhauser
4.12/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Midnight black and pours like motor oil. Nice tan/cocoa head on top. Great espresso aroma-really stands out in a big way. Heavy roasted malts up front with a very strong coffee flavor. Long, lingering coffee taste, with a decent sweetness as well. Nice mouthfeel-a bit prickly on the tongue. Really a nice coffee beer all in.

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Photo of azdback
3.84/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a standard pint glass. Dark black but not all light sucking. Edges bleed just enough 100 watt light to call them dark brown colored. Head rises quickly to a small one finger of dark cocoa color but dissipates just as quickly. Lace is minimal.

Smell is all dark roasted malts. Coffee is the initial winner but some charred wood smells come out as well as some cream an sugar for the cup of joe.

Taste is not as rich as I would have liked. Smoke or char come first. Then a weak coffee taste followed by some tart fruit. This is good but I wish it tasted like it smelled.

Mouth is silky but not quite velvety like I expected it to be. Carbonation is creamy to round with a disappointing, medium body and average finish.

Overall I have heard of this one for quite a while so when it showed up as an extra I was really excited to try it. IMO it doesn't live up to the hype but if you get the chance to pick one up at a reasonable price it's worth the time. Thanks to McNuts for the extra.

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Photo of ms11781
3.48/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Pours a thick solid black. A bit of a dark brown head rises and falls turning tan as it settles as a thin ring around the glass. No lacing to speak of.

Coffee leads the way in the nose. Freshly brewed coffee with some light chocolate notes. There is a nice roasted character as well.

The taste follows the nose with the exception of sort of tartness at the finish. Some nice coffee comes across first and it's followed by the nice chocolate notes. The roasted flavor is here but it's nowhere near as prevalent as in the nose. At the finish there is a fleeting but sharp tartness. It hits quick and then it's gone.

The body was a bit thinner than expected given how the beer poured. It's not bad, just unexpected. However, when coupled with the lower carbonation it just doesn't give the beer enough to get to the fuller mouthfeel that it feels it needs.

This was an ok beer for me. There isn't much depth to the flavors or aromas. They seem as if they could be a bit bolder and fuller. Definitely not up with the best of the coffee stouts but overall it's a decent one.

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Photo of auroracrisis
4.05/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz split into two snifters.

Viscous and black upon pouring with no head, only a ring of foam around the edges of the beer. Plenty of legging from residual sugars when you swirl it.

Medium roast espresso and cream on the nose, with other notes of fudge and rich chocolate cake. Hints at a little bit of lactic acid and tartness as well.

Big chocolate and roast on the tongue at first with a tweak of lactic tartness. Cream and a bit of fudge as well.

Decadent and creamy, full bodied. Low, low carbonation.

Creamy coffee and chocolate with a touch of lactic acid. A nice coffee cream stout but probably not one that I would attempt to cellar, I could see the lactic notes taking over.

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Photo of buschbeer
4.54/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle
Served in a perfect pint glass

A - It pours black as night with a skim of brown head on top.

S - I popped the cap and crossed the kitchen to toss the cap and could smell it. It has a bold coffee aroma. If I close my eyes I swear I'm smelling a fresh cup of coffee.

T - It is dominated by coffee flavors, rich and roasty. I get a little burnt flavor on the finish.

M - Velvety smooth with low carbonation.

O - This is my favorite beer from Shorts so far. This beer is a little past its prime, but fresh, it is awesome.

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Photo of n2185
3.07/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours black with three fingers of dark tan head that recedes into a frothy ring with a little lacing.

S: Lots of roasted coffee on the nose with some underlying creamy chocolate and roasted malt notes underneath.

T: Roasted malts and coffee dominate at first with faint cocoa notes underneath. The finish tastes strongly of char, to the point that it's almost sour.

M: Medium-thick body with medium carbonation, the sourness and relatively light body give this beer a slightly watery feel.

O: Not a bad beer, but the sourness of it sticks to me like a sore thumb. The nose promises wonderful robust coffee and then the flavor delivers an odd, sour finish that contrasts sharply with the other characters of the beer.

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Photo of JizackFH
4.15/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - This beer pours a really dark brown color, almost black. It has a nice fluffy 2-finger mocha colored head on it. The head has good retention, and it leaves behind some scattered lace on the glass.

S - The nose is dominated by the smell of black coffee and dark chocolate. There are some roasted malt aromas, as well as some sweet cream and sugar.

T - The taste pretty much follows the nose. It starts off with some dark roasted malt and a huge coffee flavor. There is some cream-like sweetness and a nice dark chocolate presence. The finish leaves some lingering flavors of coffee, roasted malt, and chocolate behind on the palate.

M - This has a pretty full body, but it seems to thin out a bit as well. It has good carbonation, and it goes down quite easy. There is a nice smooth feel to this, but there is some roasted quality as well. Some cream sweetness is also present. Roasted malt bitterness lingers on the palate.

O - This has good drinkability. I could drink a few of these in a sitting. Overall, I thought that this was a really nice and interesting stout. You really get what the name says in this one. There is a ton of coffee presence, as well as some cream. I really enjoyed it and I recommend trying it, unless you dislike coffee flavor in your stouts.

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Photo of TheStove
3.85/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a mini imperial pint glass. Pours a nice inky black that finishes with a finger of mocha colored foam. Initial smells are reminiscent of an iced coffee.

Sweetness is instantly noticeable upon sipping. The milk sugar flavor combines with the malt to make almost a foamy consistency and slight chocolate richness similar to a latte. This transitions to stronger coffee flavors eventually tasting like a black cup of coffee. Some sweetness with the coffee flavors linger on the tongue between sips.

In the world of coffee stouts, this is a really nice one. It's smooth and creamy and the transitions are well done to the point where this is a beer latte more than just coffee flavored beer. The milk sugar is done excellently, it does more to diversify and enhance the flavor profile rather than to just provide "sweetness". Again, this one wins as being much more than tasting like just a stout with coffee.

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Photo of FosterJM
4.03/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1009th Review on BA
Bottle to Snifter
12 oz

No bottle date. Assuming recent batch

Thanks to ErikKoppin for this one

App- One of the most oily, chocolatey dark pours I have seen to date after 1000 reviews. A pure black color with a great 2 finger fast receding head on it. No cling or lace.

Smell- A huge amount of roast and coffee. Really malty stout with a good bit of espresso and cocoa.

Taste- A good stout with a lot of flavor packed behind it. A nice roast flavor with a lot of espresso/coffee. Had a nice bit of creme chocolate flavors as well.

Mouth- Medium bodied and a low viscious carbonation level. Good roast and chocolate flavors.

Drink- This was one of the better coffee stouts that I have had. Nice depth of flavor and good profile. Really packed a coffee punch behind it. Very enjoyable.

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Photo of 33nickadams
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It's a brew day today, and I love to have coffee stouts when I brew. I reviewed Java Stout earlier today and reviewed FBS about a month ago now.
Appearance is black, opaque, and a slight tan head that lines the glass. Smells of strong coffee and chocolate. It's very roasty, and robust. It has a stronger coffee flavor and smell than the Java Stout, which I was surprised by. Mouthfeel is heavy and smooth. Nicely carbonated. After trying FBS, Java and now Cup a Joe, I like FBS first, Cup A Joe second and Java Stout third. They're all great beers!

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Photo of StoutHunter
4.09/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I picked up a bottle of Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout a couple days ago for $2.09 at The Lager Mill. I am a big fan of Coffee Stouts and since I missed out on this beer last year I made sure to grab one so I can sit down and give it a try, so lets see how it goes. No visible bottling date but I know it's fresh. Poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a imperial pint glass.

A- I like the label on this beer, it's nicely done, eye catching, and I like the fact that it says what type of coffee was used in this beer. It poured a nice jet black color that didn't let any light come through and it had three quarter of a fingers worth of mocha colored head that quickly faded to nothing. The color is nice but I want more head and retention.

S- The aroma of this beer is really nice, and it smells very similar to a mocha latte, if I smelled this and didn't know it was beer I would be sure this was a cold mocha latte. It's got some nice and sweet coffee and chocolate aromas along with a very present cream aroma that you don't always get in coffee stouts so this makes it a little different. Some reviewers say that it smells like a coffee house and I fully agree with that statement. It has a nice aroma that is more mocha latte then plain black coffee.

T- The taste is pretty much exactly the same as the aroma. It starts off with some dark roasted malts and a pretty nice coffee flavor that mixes very well with some chocolate, caramel and sweet cream. This beer has a high amount of sweetness but the coffee and cream flavors seem to cut through it a little. This is like drinking a Starbucks mocha Frappuccino in beer form. The finish was sweet with a medium amount of roasty bitterness and it had a creamy coffee like aftertaste.

M- Rich, creamy, on the high side of being medium bodied and it had a low amount of carbonation that worked well with this beer. The mouthfeel was pretty coffee like and worked well with this beer.

Overall I thought that this was a pretty good American Coffee Stout, it had all those nice coffee flavors that you would expect from a Coffee Stout, but it also had a heavy milk/cream aspect that sets this beer apart from some of the other Coffee Stouts. This beer isn't too drinkable, I would only want one at a time when it comes to this beer, the sweetness would be too much after drinking one of these. What I liked most about this beer was the coffee and cream profile that this beer had in the flavor and aroma it was really nice and the mouthfeel was equally as good. What I liked least about this beer was the high amount of sweetness in the flavor, ir was just a little to sweet for my tastes and it would help the drinkability if it was toned down a notch, I also would have like more head. I would buy this beer again, I think a six pack would be just enough for the winter season and it would be a good beer to start your day off with. This beer is worth trying especially if Coffee Stouts are your thing and even more so if you like Mocha Lattes. In the end I thought that this was a solid coffee stout that was unique, but the high amount of sweetness keeps this beer from being on the same level as Founders Breakfast Stout, so FBS is still my favorite Coffee Stout. I like how Short's made this beer more Mocha Latte like then just black coffee, just like all their beers it is different from the mainstream versions, good job Short's this is a worthy and unique Coffee Stout.
UPDATE- 2012, This years release doesn't seem as heavy on the milk sugar and cream flavor, it's just about as good, but I think I like the 2011 release slightly more, the score stays the same.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.42/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Got this one from spdyfire83. Thanks for hanging out man!

From a bottle into a snifter.

APPEARANCE: Pours out black and very thick for the style. Yields a small, medium looking, mocha colored head with lousy retention. Head quickly recedes to a hazy wisp and ring. Body is jet black with no carbonation evident. A ring remains until the end but leaves no lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Big coffee nose. Roasted coffee beans, roasted malts and some definite cream and lactose sugar. Much like a milk latte, just as the label describes.

TASTE: Not as impressive as the nose had advertised. Some roasted malts, sweet caramel and milk sugar on the palate. Sweet and sugary, but very little coffee flavor in there. Aftertaste is mild but lingers well with caramel, lactose and just a touch of bitter coffee as well. Not much coffee in this one, and quite sweet. Fine, but not as impressive as the nose, and more cream heavy over the coffee. More balance and a more integrated flavor profile would have been appreciated.

PALATE: Medium body and lower amounts of carbonation. Not overly creamy on the palate, but goes down fine and finishes slightly mouth-coating. Good here.

OVERALL: This one is alright I guess, but for a coffee stout, it doesn’t quite live up to expectations. It’s definitely got the cream and lactose areas covered, but for a coffee stout, I expected to taste a bit more of that element throughout the beer. Worth checking out, but like may Short’s beers, not worth going crazy for. Give it a go if you can easily find it.

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Short's Cup A Joe Coffee Creme Stout from Short's Brewing Company
4.03 out of 5 based on 737 ratings.
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