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Short's Kind AleShort's Kind Ale

Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: American Pale Ale (APA)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Fall

Notes / Commercial Description:
40-50 IBU

Added by seaoflament on 12-06-2009

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Photo of largadeer
1.28/5  rDev -65%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

Thanks, Barry. Hazy gold with a small white cap that recedes to a ring. Bizarre vegetable aroma; cabbage, tomatoes, celery. There's not much I can pick out in the way of standard hop aroma, though the vegetable character seems to be coming from the hops. Maybe. On the palate it's rather slick and buttery up front, semi-sweet with more weird vegetable hop flavor. It cleans up quite a bit in the finish, ending on a dry and bitter note. What an odd beer. The diacetyl and strange hop flavor are pretty horrendous.

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Photo of HopHead84
1.28/5  rDev -65%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1


Consumed in a snifter, the beer is dark orange with a standard beige head and standard retention.

The aroma is of buttery tomatoes, cabbage, cooked carrots, and a slight white peppery floral presence. This a grainy buttery vegetable stew. I mean no disrespect when I say this smells horrendous. It's a DMS and diacetyl bomb of an aroma.

The flavor is equally as bad. It's of cabbage, carrots, tomatoes, celery. Wow. This is simply terrible. It's a buttery vegetable garden.

Two drain pours in as many nights from the same brewery. I won't recover from this...

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Photo of DefenCorps
1.53/5  rDev -58.2%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

I got a bunch of Short's beers in a recent trade with schro126. Thanks, Nathan!

The pour is quite gorgeous, crystal clear golden orange with a dense white head that recedes pretty quickly, leaving little lace.

The nose is rather awful - cooked vegetable with a blend of spinach, cabbage and some citrus hops, some honey and some sugar. It brings to mind the Bud Clamato and Mamma Mia Pizza Beer.

The palate opens with a blend of solvent character, bitterness with grapefruit zest and the cooked vegetables of the nose. Quite harsh, this beer is medium-light in body with high carbonation, causing a prickly session that worsens the flavors and sensation. Drying on the finish with some bitterness, this just isn't very good, a drain pour for sure.

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Photo of seaoflament
2.32/5  rDev -36.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

First I have to thank my buddy Derek for the opportunity to try a new beer from Short's. The only description on the label says "Wet Hop Ale--From Field to Fermenter."

The beer's color is a rusty golden tone and with a solid inch of foam on top that leaves a few scattered strings of bubbles on the sides. The head falls down in a few moments and leaves a thin white film on top and a nicely formed ring around the glass.

At first I picked up a nice layer of tropical fruits but then I was distracted by an odd nuttiness and a sharp onion or shallot aroma (could be summit hops). There also seems to be a hint of alcohol in the background that tries to come through as "hot" but doesn't really get there, just distracts a bit. The malt profile is mostly caramel with a bit of toffee butteriness. Very very odd hop profile, can't really get away from that earthy onion aroma. At times I can detect a candy-like aroma and some orange but the onion, and now garlic, is just too distracting. I should add, the aroma is not that "explosive" or "in your face" but when I lean my nose in the glass all I get is caramel and onion.

The taste is somewhat better and I think I can taste the summit hops as it reminds me of my first homebrewed IPA that did not turn out well. In fact, it tastes very close to even has a similar finish that is fruity, a little alcohol flavor, and "thick" on the palate...but this commercial brew is just a bit better than my homebrew. The malt flavor is quite odd as well, some subtle caramel, mostly just unidentifiable sweetness and some grassy hop flavor with a dose of yeast fruitiness.

As far as the mouthfeel the beer could be a bit drier for my liking, it feels a little thick and undercarbonated on the palate.

I was really excited to try this one and even though some Short's beers haven't been to my liking (Bloody Beer for example as I don't like tomato juice) but I think this is the first one I've had from them that I felt let down. Overall, the beer is pretty boring.

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Photo of billab914
2.53/5  rDev -30.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Redhook shaped pint glass. On the first pour I get about 3/4 of a glass full of foam. Way too foamy for a pretty relaxed and easy pour. This is going to take a while to get this beer into my glass. The color of the beer as the foam fades is a murky orange amber. It did leave some good lacing from that huge head though.

The aroma has a mild citrusy hop presence to it with a bready, sweet, yeasty flavor as well. Slightly tart and moderately fruity. The aroma actually reminds me of a Saison.

The taste has some of the tart and yeasty flavors found in the nose. It had a dry bitterness in the finish but overall the hops were pretty mild. It had a moderate bready malt presence to it as well. Overall not what I expected, and not really that impressed overall.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied and despite the huge foamy head the carbonation is pretty moderate. Drinkability isn't good, I really didn't care for it and wouldn't have another. It was moderately hoppy but had some other flavors going on that I just didn't care for. Perhaps something was wrong with it maybe?

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Photo of gordavidson
2.64/5  rDev -27.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A- A clear, light orange liquid with a thin white head that leaves nice lacing. About right for the style.

S- Cooked asparagus and a bit of fruit. Not my bag.

T- Sweet fruit, honey, vegetables. Not as vegetable oriented as the aroma would lead me to believe. Still, this is not what I look for in a beer like this.

M- A nice carbonation level and a bitter lingering at the end that is right on.

D- The vegetable aspect diminished the more I got into it, but looking at it objectively I realized that this is still not what I really enjoy. Drinkable, but there are many better options out there.

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Photo of jampics2
2.76/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle bought as a single on a trip to Michigan. This beer was probably 2 mos old when sampled, so not teh freshest, but I was surprised at how old it tasted.

Looks nice - golden orange with little head.

Smell is off - oxidized and perhaps some popcorn.

Taste has some nice clean malt and a touch of hops, but it's also got some cherry cardboard thing too. A tad buttery.

Mouthfeel was carbed and sparkling. Drinkability was average.

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Photo of BMoney575
2.78/5  rDev -24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Sampled on 4-17-10

Pours a cloudy golden amber color with a thin white head and clingy lacing.

Smell is nicely sweet with a light hop aroma, citrusy and tart. Not overly complex, but enjoyable.

Taste is odd. Slightly sour malt followed by a sharp hop bitterness. The aftertaste is very bitter and lasts forever, which completely ruins the beer.

Mouthfeel is good, a pleasant thickness with sizable carbonation that adds to the tartness.

Drinkability is poor, mostly because of the strange and intense bitterness.

Overall, not particularly good.

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Photo of nickd717
2.85/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle shared by bring on BA - thanks, Barry! largadeer was there and looking at his rating below, it seemed he really like this one.

Pours a hazy golden color with a small white head and decent lacing.

Aroma is rough fresh leafy and citrus hops and some very slight vegetal notes. Smells good, but hints at a little DMS.

Flavor is very vegetal with cooked corn and a little butter. Lots of DMS/diacetyl in this one. Leafy hops and sweet malt play a supporting role.

Medium bodied with a nice carbonation level. Mildly palate wrecking. Overall this was close to being a good beer, but the off-flavors really threw me.

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Photo of youngleo
3.06/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured to about a one fingered head. Head was a slight offwhite in color. Had some nice lacing that left rings with every swallow. Brew itself was golden in color. Smelled of citrus and pine. I actually thought the smell was a little on the light side. I didnt taste a lot of malt. Just the citrus pine taste. Also had a bitter aftertaste. Felt a little thin in the mouth. Carbonation I thought was right. Decent brew. Id buy again. I just wouldnt make it a session beer.

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Photo of corby112
3.11/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle courtesy of iceicebaby. Thanks again Sean!

pours a very dark cloudy amber orange color with light golden orange hues when held to a light source and a half finger white foam head that quickly fades into a lasting ring. Not much lacing left behind.

Slightly earthy aroma with only a subtle citrus and pine presence. Strong lactic creaminess, prominent malt backbone and sweet alcohol. The hops smell very fresh but i was expecting the hop presence to be much more prevalent in the nose. Unfortunately it's completely overpowered and almost unnoticeable.

Very chewy resinous mouthfeel with some nice dry bitterness up front with a lot of fresh earthy/piny hops. The bitterness lingers throughout but is countered mid palate by a strong biscuit/caramel malt profile that is a bit overpowering. There's also a good bit of heat and alcohol warmth in the finish. This beer's not bad but i was expecting it to be much hoppier considering the style. Kind of a let down really.

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Photo of tpd975
3.29/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jale for bringing the whole short's lot to Sexual Chocolate for me.

A: Pours a nice golden hue with a tall white head. Pretty nice retention with beautiful lace all the way down the glass.

S: Cooked veggies and a lot of them. Light earth with grassy green herbal hops. Not real nice to be honest.

T: Light caramel and some grassy hops. Mild citrus, and thank god no steamed veggies.

M: Medium in body, good carbonation.

D: Not too bad just don't inhale this one. It's not real pleasant.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.3/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed from notes.

The color is a light golden orange color. A bit of a white head without too much lacing. The nose brings some very light citrus hops but not too much else. The taste is some really timid hops as well as a bit of pale malt. Feel has good carbonation and the appropriate body, but utterly lacking in hops for an APA. Nothing wrong with the beer as brewed, but not a very good pale ale.

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Photo of BeerTruth
3.33/5  rDev -9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got this (among many other Short's brews) from iceicebaby, thanks man!

12 oz. bottle poured into a nonic.

Pours a somewhat hazy sunset orange hue with a full two finger off-white head. The foamy crown remains for a while leaving a sticky wall of lace on the sides of the glass, wonderful looking brew. Very nice wet hop aroma; hop forward with brown sugar sprinkled grapefruit. A touch of caramel malt with some gritty earth in the nose as well. Taste falls off a bit from the smell. A strange popcorn flavor with biscuits and orange candy flavor, not a fan. Aftertaste is sweet and bready with a cucumber taste...meh, weird. Mouthfeel is kinda strange, a bit too slick with very little carbonation. I was really disappointed with this beer. Not sure if the hops they used grew in between a vegetable patch but the flavor just seems off. I've got a Liberator waiting for me in the fridge...had it at GTOM and I'm pretty sure that will make up for this let down. Thanks for the chance to try this Sean!

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Photo of claminat420
3.35/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- poured a light copper color. one finger white head. little lacing.

S- notice a heavily earthy hop scent. not citrusy in any way. smells like a belgium????

T- the wet hop doesn't present itself which i would imagine. the malt really blends well in the brew tho.

M- medium bodied. good carbonation.

D- could work on a 6 no problem.

Overall- well short's went in a different direction with the hop choice. most wet hopped have the citrusy and strong kick going. this has the opposite thing going on. to be honest i'm disappointed!!! for 13.99 a six it's def not worth it. if you can grab a single then i would say do it. not really hoppy which i was hoping for.

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Photo of webmanspidey
3.36/5  rDev -8.2%

This pours a translucent golden/copper color with medium head. Smell is extremely fruity, primarily peaches with some apples, oranges, and lemons coming through as well.

Taste again brings out a mixed bag of gummi bear fruit flavors, finishing with a strong bitter hoppy punch. This is a pretty interesting and unique beer for the style. A pleasant surprise.

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Photo of 33nickadams
3.44/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Light amber color that's translucent with not much head. The smell is piney and grassy. This pale ale seems to be more malty than hoppy. I do pick up light citrus notes. The mouthfeel is light. Overall, a little disappointing but still an OK beer. I think I would look for other wet hops before this.

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Photo of FBarber
3.44/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light golden bronze color with a thin momentary white head.

Smells like a freshly mowed lawn with a hint of fresh orange and grapefruit.

Taste is very crisp and vivid. Lots of freshly mowed grass up front. Extremely bitter, hint of citrus rind is noted with a strong malt backbone. Again, very bitter on the back end with a lingering cat piss like flavor.

Feel is a bit too thick and heavy for a pale ale. This is solidly an IPA. Prickly carbonation. Bit syrupy.

Overall its not a great pale ale, but as an IPA its a solid beer. Definitely on the bitter side of things.

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Photo of abraxel
3.47/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Pours a light golden orange, very slightly hazy, with a finger or two of snow white head. It leaves some nice lacing down the glass.

S - Very nice hop aroma, lots of earthiness and citric acidity. I'm excited to take a sip. There's maybe a touch of simple, sweet malt in there, but the delicious hops are in charge.

T - Hmm... this does not live up to the aroma. There's some earthy, herbal hoppiness, but it's a little one-dimensional, with none of the explosive citrus that the nose hinted toward -- don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting an IPA, but the aroma set the bar and the taste fell way short.

M - Kinda thin, but perfectly reasonable for a pale ale. There's a nice prickle of carbonation.

Overall, I love Short's, but Kind Ale is kinda mediocre. Oh well.

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Photo of kbeals
3.48/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- 12 oz. bottle poured into a pint glass reveals a slightly hazy golden colored brew. A good finger of fizzy white foam forms the head which leaves pretty decent lacing. Head dissipates down rather quickly but leaves a good ring of foama round the outside.

S- Definitely a sweet malt bill in this one along with a bit of a fruit smell (tropical fruits perhaps?). A little different and not really what I was expecting, but still good.

T- A good shot of sweet malts hits you up front ended with a good, bitter finish. In between reveals the tropical fruits that were alluded to in the smell, although the fruits seem somewhat artificial in the taste. Sort of like gummy worms.

M- Light bodied with good amounts of carbonation. Nice and crisp feel like a good pale ale should have.

D- Light body makes it a good quaffer, but I'd be interested to see what the ABV is on this one, it seems pretty high.

Overall, it was pretty good. Would I buy it again? Yup, sure would. This was definitely interesting and a good change from a normal pale ale.

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Photo of SerialTicker
3.48/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

My first wet hopped beer.

Appearance: Poured with a surprising two-finger, creamy head. The lacing lasts from beginning to end. The beer is slightly translucent and orange. Probably this beer's highlight.

Smell: It smells pretty good, but it doesn't rock my socks off. Hops. Mostly of the earthy variety. Pretty much bursting with the hops.

Taste/feel: Almost all hops from beginning to end. This beer gets more and more bitter throughout the sip... I really didn't mind it that much though. I'm not familiar with wet hopped beers -- as I said, this is my first -- but it could have used a bit more malt. There was some spice and a touch of malt maybe at the end, but not quite enough. The feel of this one makes it pretty drinkable... appropriate for the taste. It's fairly thin, but not bad.

Overall, meh. It has a good bit of hop flavor, but there's just not enough malts in here, and the bitterness is a bit too much for me. This beer was best enjoyed -- for ME -- with a small bag of munchies. Funyuns, to be exact. A decent offering by Short's.

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Photo of JordanEllwanger
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A golden copper with great transparency topped by a tiny dense white head. Smells hopoliciuos. Berry fragrance mostly strawberry swirling in there. An earthy metallic taste of hops takes over the mouth. A smoked meat after taste dwells on my pallet. Feels like a bitter punch biting my taste buds. Not bad.

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Photo of buddha5050
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Serving: Poured out of a 12 oz bottle into a Duvel tulip glass

A: Hazy apricot color, with a 1.5 finger white head, well carbonated.

S: Apricot, grapefruit, citrus, alot of hops

T: Apricot flavors with citrus and well hopped. I did'nt pick up much malt flavor, it finished with a big dry bitterness.

M: Mouthfeel wasn't bad a little thiner then I expected, nice carbonation to cleanse the palate.

O: Decent beer, refreshing but a little harsh on the bitter finnish too me. I would drink it again just not as a session beer.

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Photo of spartanfan
3.52/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a clear honey color with a luxurious, fluffy white head that shows great retention and leaves a wall of lacing all around the glass.

S: Powerful aromas of fresh grassy, herbal hops. A bit of pale malt sweetness as well.

T: I'm not a huge fan of fresh hop beers in general, but this one is pretty good. Flavors of grassy, earthy hops, not much malt there, and perhaps to the detriment of the overall flavor.

M: Mouthfeel is quite light and refreshing. Good carbonation level adds to the body and flavors.

D: As noted above this one is not too heavy and it would be easy to knock back quite a few.

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Photo of grub
3.6/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Viggo shared this one. thanks eric!

12oz bottle. sampled jan 16/2010.

pours hazy pale orangey amber with a small pure white head. the head drops fairly fast but leaves a bunch of spotty lace behind.

aroma is nice. light alcohol. resiny hops. grapefruit and orange. bit of pine. woody and a bit floral. cracker, white bread, and a bit of biscuit. bit of cat pee.

taste is nice. orange and tangerine. light grapefruit. much less pine and a less resiny hop presence overall. touch of sweetness, but more citrusy than caramel or sugar. cracker and white bread. touch of biscuit. light alcohol. about medium-low bitterness level. the hops are less assertive than i expected from the aroma.

mouthfeel is nice. fairly night body. just under medium carbonation level.

drinkability is pretty good. fairly balanced, but everything seems more muted than i expected. i thought there'd be more hops, more body, more malt... it just leaves me wanting more.

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