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Freedom Of '78 | Short's Brewing Company

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Freedom Of '78Freedom Of '78

Brewed by:
Short's Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: American IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by surlytheduff on 12-16-2010

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Photo of sweemzander
4.09/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into an imperial pint.

(A)- Pours a clear orange color that produced a small off-white head with decent retention. Minimal lacing.

(S)- Wow, a huge burst of tropical citrus. That guava is really evident; bringing with it a peach, pineapple, and lime accent. Some minimal pine in there too. What a fresh and vibrant aroma. Unique for the style.

(T)- Very similar to the smell, only with more malts showing themselves in the form of light caramel. Very piney with pine-needle all over the place. The citrus takes a backseat to all this.

(M)- A good carbonation level and balance. Has a sharp dry piney bitterness, but is counterbalanced well with a good malty backbone and tropical citrus.

(D)- I always enjoy how Shorts pushes the envelope on what you can expect from a beer style. This is no different. A refreshing take on an overproduced style.

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Photo of silentjay
4.09/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bottled 3/30/12. about 6 weeks old.

translucent pale copper color with a decent sized almost white head that quickly recedes and leaves chunky lacing.

Holy Guava, batman. very distinct tangy aroma of tropical fruit. behind that is some more tropical fruit. after that comes a bit of grapefruit and more tangy tropical fruit.

again, guava! tangy and sweet. begins with some hop bitterness before the tangy fruit flavors come in and attack the palate. malts add some sweetness on the backend and a bittersweetness lingers.

thinner side of medium bodied with ample carbonation.

well.... I'm not a fan of guava fruit, but in this iteration combined with some bitter grapefruity hops and a touch of malt sweetness makes this a good beer. a novelty, maybe, but I enjoy it.

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Photo of otto251068
4.08/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a Chimay chalice. No freshness date.

Appearance: Pours a slightly rust, red, copper color. Lets plenty of light through, very inviting. A couple fingers worth of eggshell head rises after the pour, very dense and tightly packed. The head finally settles to a thin layer with some dense patches. Almost perfect.

Smell: Hoppy right off the bat, mainly a pine smell, very herbal and reminds me of the outdoors. Once you get beyond the pine, the is a ripe citrus aroma way back there. Grapefruit, just a touch of peaches, and then finally the guava.

Taste: Plenty of bitterness here. The hops have definite pine flavors, although I do get some soapy flavors. It isn't all hops though, there is a slight malt body hiding in the middle. There is also lots of citrus provided by orange and grapefruit. There is peach and guava that hits at the end and compliments the other flavors very well. It also almost erases the huge hops that were there only moments ago.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with medium carbonation. Finishes very clean with only the smooth guava and peach flavors lingering along with a slight hop bitterness. A little sticky.

Overall: IPAs are usually one and done with me, as I am not crazy about huge, hoppy beers. However, this gem from Short's has those fruity guava and peach flavors that give a great ending to each swallow. This is very enjoyable and drinkable for an American IPA.

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Photo of TreyIsWilson
4.08/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A - Pours a light copper with a thin white foamy head.

S - Lots of tropical fruits (guava, mango, & peach) with a faint floral hop aroma.

T - Follows the nose. Tropical fruit right upfront. The tropical fruits fade into a nice piney hop finish. Finish also has a somewhat sour citrus aftertaste.

M - Thin mouthfeel with medium carbonation. A bit watery. Dry crisp finish.

O - I really dig this beer. Lots of nice tropical flavors. Highly drinkable.

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Photo of portia99
4.07/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle poured into a Brooklyn snifter. Somehow I missed this at EBF this year and heard consistently that it was a highlight of the fest. Glad to get a chance to try it.

A - Pours a pleasantly clear and bright orange amber color. A finger of just off-white foam with pretty good staying power sits atop the liquid for a minute or two. Pretty sheets of lacing left on the glass as the foam falls.

S - This is a pretty great smelling IPA. Spicy and loaded with fruity hop aromas. The guava does its job well lending an intense tropical aroma here. Some grapefruit is noticably present as well as some light pineapple.

T - Bitter up front with some earthy hop flavors, dirt, toasted malt, bread. Hops are fairly intense in bitterness and also lend some fruitiness as well in the form of grapefruit mainly. The guava doesn't go unnoticed at all...I just wish that it was as intense as it is in the aroma.

M - Lightish medium body with equivalent carbonation level. Tropical and bitter overall and both leave lingering and lasting impressions after the swallow.

O - Overall...I like this. This is a good IPA - I had extremely high expectations for this (which were probably unrealistic)...so not unexpectedly, it is a bit of a letdown. But!...it is still a pretty good IPA, one that I could be very happy with a six pack and someone to share it with on a relaxing evening. I'd gladly have this again - one to go way out of your way for...maybe not, but if you do find this one, definitely give it a shot.

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Photo of alexgash
4.07/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle.

Pretty damn clear golden apricot body. Finger of tight, gauzy, eggshell-white head. Some lacing. Ridiculously citrusy nose! Definite guava too. Grapefruit and grapefruit rind, mandarin orange, and passion fruit as well. Sugary malt presence in the background.

Toasted malts up front. Big citrus juice flavor follows. Grapefruit, guava, and lemon dominate. Acidic, bitter, and even a bit tart. Spicy, cookie-ish malt underneath it all. Grassy, herbal bitterness mixes in near the finish. Candied malt sweetness resonates with bitter citrus hops in the finish. Medium-bodied, with a slightly slick feel. A very citrus-y IPA, and if you like that kind of thing, seek this out!

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Photo of gustogasmic
4.07/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a light-clear yellowy copper, with much, much carbonation and a thin white ring/ sparse hazy head.

The smell is a nice acidic guava/ mango, entirely tr-hop-ical.

Holy guava me! This flavor comes across HUGE in the nose... how cool to say there exists a GUAVABOMB! Fun, fun beer. Earthy hops deliver a bitter that carries the hops along well. Besides the bitterness, this is a clean-drinking beer- not sweet, and a little dry in the leave. Rarely do I want more sweetness in a beer, but here I think it'd be appropriate. Sticky-icky mouthfeel.

I think someone from Central America would have a better vocabulary to discern the tropical flavors in this beer. It's insanely tropical, and powerfully hopped. Love this one.

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Photo of rudzud
4.06/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received as an extra. I think the bottle date was 03/03/15...which...hopefully isn't true. But...taste and nose will tell.

A - Poured into my Duvel tulip a hazy orange hue with a one finger white head that fades to leave a thin thin head.

S- Aromas of light sweet malts, caramel, good tropical guava, earthy, almost musty, light citrus rind (mostly grapefruit).

T- Taste is sweet caramel malts, light bitterness, decent tropical notes, guava being the primary one. The guava is more candied and paste as opposed to fresh. Not much hop notes really just a fair amount of guava.

M - Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated, makes it feel a bit sticky.

O - Overall, this was a fun beer. Drank more like a guava ale, as the hops were a bit lacking, however, all around a decent beer.

Serving Type: Bottle

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Photo of ThickNStout
4.05/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from GRDave (thanks man!). No bottling date. Served in a Terrapin snifter.

Pours hazy amber with a full finger white head that fades fairly quickly and leaves a nice bit of lace.

Smells of tropical fruity hops. Orange, guava, papaya and candy.

Taste bursts with juicy guava followed by grapefruit, peel, a little sugar and cracker. The guava dominates.

Slick light medium body with moderate carbonation. Dry grapefruit finish.

Shorts was not kidding about the guava. It's a very unique and juicy IPA.

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Photo of jrallen34
4.05/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle drank in my Orval glas...A clear gold, decent carbonation...Sweet aroma of pineapple, mango, a touch of the guava, less than the Half acre...Taste starts off like fruit juice, acidic, a bite, and finally a little hops. The more you drink the hops come through. Not the best ipa but decent and worth a try.

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Photo of WeisGuy
4.02/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle from Plum Market. Bottled 11/24/10.

Pours a hazy, deep golden color with a two-finger white head. Head retention and lacing are moderate to good. The aroma of guava jumps out of the glass along with other tropical fruit and citrus smells. There is also a considerable biscuit malt aroma. Moderately sweet guava and tropical fruit flavors up front with a strong grainy, biscuity malt flavor cutting the sweeter hops on the midpalate. The finish is quite bitter and dry with lots of lingering tropical fruit/guava and lighter biscuit malt notes. Alcohol is pretty well-hidden. Medium-bodied with moderate carbonation and a dry finish. The intensely bitter finish limits drinkability somewhat, as does the interesting, but not very complex, flavors. Overall, a really good IPA from Short's and Half Acre. The guava really comes through, and the flavors, while not complex, are pleasant and refreshing.

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Photo of GarthDanielson
4.01/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a shaker pint, the beer is a hazy, caramel-gold coloring with a tall, frothy, foamy, clingy, off-white head. Aromas of pineapple, guava, melon, and mango, with subtle grassy hops notes. Flavors are very tangy and sweet tropical fruit notes forward, heavy on the guava and melon, but with solid pineapple, passion fruit, and mango characteristics, as well. Herbal and floral hops notes here and there, but this one is definitely fruit-centric. The body is smooth and mid-range, kept somewhat light by the steady flow of carbonation. The aftertaste is a tropical fruit smoothie, sweet and rich through and through. Smooth, slightly dry, slightly acidic finish. Good beer.

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Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.01/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks Saisonrichbiere for the hook up on this bottle

The beer pours a slightly hazy golden orange a white head that dissipates quickly...into nothing. There is no lacing or sediment. The nose is ripe with sweet tropical/citrus fruits and a touch of pine. The sweetness comes on a bit harsh; definitely a stronger sweetness than I'd prefer. Honestly, it's very similar to mikkeller's tigerbaby in appearance and nose, but has a bit more bite from the hops. The taste is also rather similar to tigerbaby with a huge presence of sweet tropical fruits (guava, grapefruit, mild pineapple), but there is a touch of malty graininess involved as well. The mouthfeel is relatively medium bodied with way too much sweetness. I would have liked a subtle, drier mouthfeel with a crisp, lingering hoppiness. Great beer that meets my expectations from its description and the two collaborating breweries. Definitely worth trying.

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Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to RBlaszak for sending this bottle my way.

The beer pours an orange color with a white head. The aroma is very fruity. I get a lot of guava as well as some papaya and apricot. The aroma is very interesting overall.

The flavor is fruity, but what really stands out is how dry the beer is. The fruit is guava and some other tropical fruit such as papaya and mango. Low bitterness. The flavor is also a little bit tangy. Once again, very interesting.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation.

A unique take on an IPA. Bravo.

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Photo of nkersten
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was totally unaware that Short's bottled a version of this as well - Thanks to Erik for sending me one of these! Poured into pint glass, color is a slightly hazy apricot golden with a one finger white head that leaves a good amount of lacing. Smell is a lot different from the Half Acre version - much spicier, lots of fruity hops, bread dough, and a slight malt sweetness in the background. Taste is similar, but much fruitier. Guava stands out in a big way, tropical fruit hops, bread crust maltiness, bitter aftertaste. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a medium/light carbonation, slightly coating and semi dry. Overall a great beer. I prefer the half acre version to this, but it is always fun to taste the regional differences in ingredients. Hopefully each brewery will brew this again next time Ween is in town.

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Photo of Sammy
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Slightly orange fruity coloured with loads of white foam that later leaves a lace trail. Very floral citrus hops,and remarkably the fresh guava. Still, smells like an IPA. Very smooth mouthfeel, the guava flavour is pronounced and dominates though it does not overpower, and is blended with hop oils. Hop bitterness blast in the sediment. Very drinkable and a good one.Bottle from Steve. This was cellared somewhat and would not be as appreciated by pure hopheads. Certainly reminds me of CC Guava Grove.

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Photo of Kegatron
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle into a tulip glass. Thanks go to Stakem for splitting this one with me!

Pours a clear copper, with a thin covering of bright-white foamy head. This maintains a nice robust look, leaving back a rich foamy cascade that hangs in thick swathes down the sides of the glass. The guava is fairly forward here in the nose, with what I can only describe as a grassy or herbal juiciness in the nose. More floral and peppery tones give this some airiness in the nose, whiles sugary malts provide some tangy supportive sweetness in the nostrils.

The taste is bitter with green pith, spice, and herbal tones, which is then backed by the earthy juiciness of the guava and sweeter notes of bread and caramel from the malts. Raw bitternessand earthy fruit really sticks to the tongue and lingers for a good bit in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a firm crispness that is carried along by a good bit of underlying oily slickness that keeps this staying smooth in the mouth.

While I didn't get to enjoy this as fresh as I did the Half Acre version last summer, I could still definitely tell that, unlike that version, this Short's take seemed to favor more of the hop character over the guava addition, which was more of a supporting force here. I liked that this brought a little something different to the table than the Half Acre version did. Solid.

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Peter for this one. Dated 03/30/12, so about 5 months old. Will keep that in mind. Poured in to tulip.

A - Dark yellow with a tinge of amber and a small layer of off-white head.

S - A huge guava aroma up front with some lighter peach notes present. The bitterness seems as expected given the freshness and a touch of sweetness is evident in the background.

T - A fairly prominent bitterness up front, which is welcome given the freshness. A massive guava flavour is present, which compliments the bitterness well. The malt base, and perhaps the guava as well, contribute a sweetness that is a little too prominent but I would image that when fresh, this balance would be quite a bit different. The guava takes centre stage here, as advertised.

M - Medium body. Light carbonation.

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Photo of gnemesis
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle from 2010 poured into wine glass.
Pours amber mixed with orange, topped with a small white head. Dissipates quickly and not much in the way of lacing (wine glass perhaps?). I immediately pick up the citrus and some hits of guava in the nose. The hops are present but mingled with a touch of honey. The taste follows but the guava is more pronounced and mixes well with the citrusy bitterness from the hops involved. The sweet fruitiness of the guava and the touch of honey keep the bitterness from overwhelming this tasty brew. Medium body and a perfect amount of carbonation in this one. It doesn't finish as dry as some IPAs do. I liked this a lot and have already purchased more. Even better- the girlfriend loves it. Would be great nice and cold on a hot summer day.

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Photo of womencantsail
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Steve for this one.

A: The beer pours a slightly hazy amber color with two fingers of white head.

S: Smells quite a bit like guava, fortunately. Some citrus hops and other sweet fruits with a very strong perfume hop note. A mild sweetness of malt and a definite grapefruit and pine aroma.

T: Very perfumey and floral on the palate as well. A moderate fruit/guava flavor, but a bit more towards the grapefruit zest side of things. Some sweet bread and toffee malts, as well. A moderate bitterness.

M: Medium bodied with medium carbonation.

O: Still a nice fruit flavor to this with a nice citrus hop component.

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Photo of stakem
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Since having Half Acre's version of this collab via a growler that Kegatron shared with me, I've been wanting to try shorts take on it. Thanks to cmurren25 for making that happen by giving me a bottle.

Poured into a sniffer, this brew appears an orange copper color with a creamy cap of white froth that is stained with a hint of yellow coloration. The slow receding of the head produces a webbing of lacework on the glass. A swirl revives the creamy froth of yellowish head back to nearly a finger's strength.

The aroma is tangy with fruit. By now having been exposed to guava on more than one occasion I can without hesitation proclaim that I smell the guava's contribution to this brew's aroma. It smells fruity with a very earthy/grassy character that is also lightly peppery. A mellow sweetness is pleasant and the hops are present but a bit faded at this point.

The taste is herbal with a spiced aspect that mellows out with more sips. The alcohol also contributes a spicy accent. There is quite a modest bitterness that is clingy and oily on the tongue. A bit of a mango fruity flavor is present before turning grassy and herbal with the bitterness. It leaves a flavor of grapefruit rind inside the mouth that is citrusy and resinous.

This is a medium bodied brew with modest carbonation. Easy drinking but quite herbal and clingy with a lasting effect. The alcohol is evident in both flavor and warming factor but it's not distracting, it plays a good role in melding the transition of fruity sweetness to herbal bitterness. Not bad, my only complaint is not getting to have both brewery's offerings on the same playing field of freshness.

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Photo of webmanspidey
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a pint glass. This is a golden copper color with a decent half inch of head. Smell is a nice mix of citrus-hops and guava, making for an interesting balance. Taste is crisp mix of hops and guava, well balanced between the bitterness of the hops and sweetness of the guava. This is like a tropical take on an IPA, something you can imagine sipping outside in the summer. Excellent drinkability.

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Photo of pmoore311
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle on 12/23/10

Appearance - fantastic copper color, white head, and some nice lacing on the glass

Smell - this is where this beer really stood out for me, awesome scent of tropical fruit, you can really smell the guava, and piney hops.

Taste - this is a very unique IPA, tropical fruits shine through with an almost pine like aftertaste and dry finish, very tasty indeed, and unlike any IPA I have had before.

Mouthfeel - fantastic bubbles that compliment the style.

Drinkability - I could easily drink many of these in one session, the tropical fruit and hops are not overly ruinous on the pallete.

Overall this is a truly unique take on the style, and something I hope these breweries continue to brew. Truly great collaboration.

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Photo of hopfacebrew
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Note: This review was a re-post from my former account, jmkratt, which was hacked and I lost all my reviews...sorry for the redundancy.

Got this as an extra in a trade from my man jopl! Thanks again man!

Poured from a 12oz bottle to a pint glass.

A - Beer poured a slightly hazy orange/amber color with a 1 finger perfectly white head that seemed to slowly fade down to a thin film on the surface with nice lacing.

S - The beer has a nice strong citrus hops aroma mixed with an almost sour fruit tone.

T/M - Interesting flavor. Starts out right where the nose left off with a strong citrus grapefruit hop aroma and a slight sour tone. Then immediately the over powering tart guava fruit flavors meld with a slight malt undertone. The beer finishes crisp and tart.

D - Drinkable beer.

Overall, this is the one of the most interesting IPA's I've ever had and it was a pleasure to have. It's unsual to find such tart flavors to match the bitterness of an IPA.

Serving type: bottle

Reviewed on: 01-26-2011 03:29:39

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Photo of Pencible
4/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled at SAVOR 2015. 4.0 - Great Amarillo hops, but pretty one dimensional. Belgian yeast would compliment its character nicely. As is, this brew is a little flat.

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Freedom Of '78 from Short's Brewing Company
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