Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout | Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn StoutMadrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout

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Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
Michigan, United States

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.10%

Availability: Winter

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Reviews: 380 | Ratings: 1,014
Photo of ASoftMachineMan
4.14/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Purchased in Tallahassee FL, consumed same day. 1 pint bottle poured half and half into snifters. Bottled December 8, 2015 and drunk April 22, 2017.

L: Pours black with one-finger dark tan-to-brown head which quickly fades to thin lacing. When lit the body reveals a very dark (as in phone flashlight barely shone through) garnet-red.

S: Brighter smell than one might anticipate, even from a sour stout. Cherries, cloves, cinnamon, dark chocolate, black coffee, and black currant all evident. Distinctive alcohol notes on the very end.

T: Very much the same as the nose. Cherries, currant, yeast, black coffee, dark chocolate, cloves and cinnamon more limited on the palate than the nose. Lingering notes of black coffee and roasted malt.

F: Smooth, but with substantial acidity. Back of the tongue/throat definitely picks up more of the bright acid and alcohol esters.

Overall: A very interesting and well-balanced Belgian-inspired stout. I have had plenty of beers that try for the "Belgian-inspired" badge only to produce overly-yeasty and boozey chuggers. Jolly Pumpkin's Madrugada Obscura is definitely worth the money if you're a fan of Belgian sour stouts.

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Photo of stortore
4.06/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle into a snifter. Bottled 12/8/15, had 9/20/16.

Pours an opaque, dark brown, with a fairly quickly dissipating one inch head, some darker tan foamy lacing. The smell brings a tart and sour aroma, malt, Belgian yeast, cocoa, raisins, some toffee and spices, light cherries. Smells pretty good. The taste also starts a bit tart and sour up front, but that mellows out as it warms. Malt, chocolate, cocoa, yeast, some molasses and caramel, cherries assert a little more than the nose. Fair amount of hop bitterness throughout. Smooth, although seemed a little acidic at times, a good, medium body, well carbonated.

A very good combo Belgian and sour stout, well blended and crafted. Very enjoyable to drink and well worth a purchase.

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Photo of FriedSlug
3.84/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A nice dark brew that leaves uniform, spotty lacing on the glass. The aroma is like moldy leather you dug out of the basement with your chocolate covered fingers. The taste is the same with moldy notes and tart dark cherries and chocolate. There is a massive amount of flavor in this unique and delicious beer.

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Photo of HattedClassic
3.81/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dark chocolate brown and opaque. A bit watery and thin looking but nice.

Really nice smell. Complex. Mix of oak wood and tart. Belgian yeast notes and light chocolate. Taste is wood, tart and hops. Not bad. Body is heavy but thin. Decent but off putting for the style. Not bad. Worth a try.

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Photo of Ciocanelu
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Black color, tan head. Aroma is roasty and acidic. Taste starts with bitter coffee, tartness, cherry pits and finishes bitter and roasty. Really dry, interesting and quite easy to drink.

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Photo of Bulabeers
4.17/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

L: Dark brew with a finger of sudsy beige head and massive amounts of lacing
S: Manzanita berry, roasted malt, oak, red wine
T: Red wine, oak, dark chocolate, roasted malt,
F: Thin but strong
O: Strange special brew.

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Photo of avalon07
4.04/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

L: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a black color and a thick texture. There was a two inch, foamy, tan-colored, somewhat long-lasting head. Sparse lacing.

S: A good aroma of dark fruit, malt, and some chocolate.

T: Tasted of roasted malt, a bit of chocolate, lemon (surprisingly enough), a hint of coffee, dark fruit (raisins), and a sour funky quality. It's hard to categorize this flavor. It's a weird mix of a stout, a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, and a little bit of a sour beer. Somehow it works (for the most part), though it could have used more of certain ingredients.

F: A fair amount of carbonation with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied; much lighter than most stouts.

O: Definitely an unusual beer, but well worth trying. Drinkable.

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Photo of jzlyo
4.21/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Aroma is raspberries/cherries, medium sweetness and fruit. The flavor is cherries/raspberries, dark malts, medium sweetness and a mix of acidity and warming alcohol in the finish.

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Photo of Ozzylizard
3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

$ 13.35 (Including tax)/25.9 oz bottle ($ 0.515/oz) at Oppermann’s Cork ‘N’ Ale, Saginaw, MI
Undated bottle at 42 degrees into a hand washed and dried JK snifter, allowed to warm to 50 degrees
Aroma – smells like sour fruit
Head average (Maximum 2.8 cm, aggressive pour), light brown, frothy, diminishing to two mm ring with legs and a partial layer
Lacing - none
Body dark brown/black, opaque
Flavor – begins slightly sour but not overpowering. No hops, no roasted malt, no alcohol, no diacetyl.
Palate – medium, almost creamy, soft carbonation

Other than color, very nonstout-like. The roasted malt is obscured by the sour fruitiness. I can’t decide if I like this or not. It is definitely better than most of the sours I’ve had from New Braunfels Brewing.

Appearance 3.5, Aroma 3.5, Flavor 3.5, Palate 4, Overall 3.75

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Photo of justinp444
4.56/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter it has a black body with a beige ring head. Smell of funk, hay, cherry, apricot, peach, some light oak, and a bit of coffee chocolate on the end. Taste is nice bittersweet chocolate, light coffee, strawberry, little bit of lemon, cherry, green apple, and funk. Full crisp slight acidic mouth feel, full body, and moderate to light carbonation.

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Photo of Sabtos
3.74/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Black with surprisingly large fluffy brown head at first, that dies down to some whisps.

Heavy whiffs of smokey, almost bacony notes up front. Toasted sunflower was thrown out there by a friend as well, and that's definitely spot on.

Slightly acetic, definitely another extremely off the wall and unusual sour by Jolly Pumpkin

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Photo of The_Snow_Bird
3.11/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Very dark beer with a light caramel head on top. Smells boozy with a little dark fruit smell. Taste is very sour with a roasted malt after taste. Definitely a sour stout.

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Photo of PorterLambic
4.15/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

This bottle was stored nearly 15 months before opening.

Pours black as tar with a decently restrained, dark tan head. Good lace left behind in ragged sheets from the pour as it recedes to a thick, irregular film.
Smell is heady during the pour with notes of tart cherries, oak and malt evident before getting close to the glass. Once nearer the nostrils wet cardboard and some yeast are found.
Taste is tart for a Imp. stout. Notes of tangy cherries, oak, roasted malt, yeast, even some hops and licorice hiding in the background.
Body is light for the style, effervescence is very restrained. Still, at over 8%, it's a sipping brew. It reminds me of a Flanders red oddly. Good, but certainly outside the norm for style.

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Photo of frasergrove
3.61/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2/19/2013 bottle

L: quickly fading dark tan head, deep brown/black with a tinge of amber when held towards the light

S: hints of tart cherry, wood, tobacco

T: light tartness and funk up front, chocolate and roasted finish. Expected more complexity based on the nose. Not much bitterness.

F: quick bite up front, semi creamy sweetness in middle, hint of roasted bitter on the finish.

O: aroma lead me to believe this would be a very complex beer, however the flavor fell a bit flat. Dichotomy of funk and roastiness fail to blend together.

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Photo of monkeybeerbelly
4.19/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

my first sour stout. such an odd style but i really see why people like them so much. deep dark color is very attractiva and yet deceptive. the aroma is that familiar Jolly Pumpkin sour/vinegar/ funk but kicked up a notch with roasty notes clearly coming through. tastes exactly like i hoped it would, nice and sour but not too acidic and blends very nicely with the dark roasty flavors. some coffe notes are also present.
very well done!

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Photo of BlurryVisi0n
2.62/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Served in a snifter glass from a vintage bottle (dated 02/14/2012).

Appearance: Deep dark browny oil color. Thin body with medium bubbles creating a tan head that rises to roughly a notch below a finger's length.

Smell: Desirable smell but awkward for an imperial stout. Hints of lemon and yeast, get what I mean.

Taste: Honestly Having a a boatload of imperial stouts, this one has to be the worst. Very sour with a hard hit of lemon, feels like your chewing into the skin as well. Also feels like they breweres threw wheat grass into it and to call this an imperial stout is a disgrace.

Mout: Because of the fact it is somewhat sticky, that's why I am not grading it any lower. Chewy, kinda reminds me of rye bread.

Overall: Honestly do yourself a favor and leave it alone, God knows how much money I paid for it but do not see myself finishing the bottle. I have at least five other choices Iimperial stouts) which blow this out the water. Salud!

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Photo of pat61
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L: It pours a dark coffee brown with a rich 1” tan foam collar that hugs the glass.
S: The aromas are fruit, wild yeast, and perhaps a touch of rotten fruit or barnyard funk in the aroma and a suggestion of port.
T: A creamy start immediately gives way to tartness that expands through the mouth. Fruit, spice, faint caramel, and complex layers of lemony, vinegary tartness. Soft roast flavors. Nothing burnt or harsh. Faint bitterness on the finish.
F: Has a very fine and soft texture, medium carbonation and body.
O: A very unique imperial stout that high lights wild yeast in a very nice way.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.7/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Brief write-up. I knew what to expect here - a tart imperial stout - and I wasn't let down. The aroma reveals more stout characteristics than the flavor. Subtle roast and chocolate give way to tart fruitiness. I like it a lot, but I can see why someone wouldn't.

3.7/5: Total marmite beer

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Photo of Mikus
4.6/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Birthday beer. Blew my mind. Deep black with a tint of brown in the light. Slim ring of tan bubbles. Dark cherries and lactic goodness on the nose. Acetic vinegar notes meld with deep roasty malts. Dark, balanced, refined, and delicious. End of palate has a nice roasty coffee note popping up out of the background sour noise. Bit of a dry finish. Perfect. Exceedingly outstanding brew. Can't wait to try the next JP take on a beer style.

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Photo of cryptichead
2/5  rDev -47.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

I generally enjoy sours and most other Jolly Pumpkin offerings out there, but this is way too sour for a stout and besides the dark appearance there are no other stout characteristics. Plus too much of a vinegar taste. Definitely outside of the bell curve on this one.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
4.2/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

On tap at the Owl House in Rochester, NY.

This one pours a dark, oily black, with a quarter inch head, and not a whole lot of lacing.

This one smells like bright tart lemon, some funk, a bit of coffee, and a bit of roasted malt.

This is a sour stout- that's definitely more sour than stout. The bright, intense lemon acidity is really nice, with a good amount of citrus, some hay, some funk, and a bit of roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate. The main connection to the stout world is the coffee flavor, which, when mixed with the lemon flavor, makes a really classic flavor combo that I enjoy.

This has a tart and juicy mouthfeel, with a higher level of carbonation, and a good amount of drinkability.

This was my first Jolly Pumpkin and hopefully not my last.

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Photo of Beeroness
4.74/5  rDev +24.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Jolly Pumpkin brews a truly interesting tasting stout. The sour notes add complexity and balance to the richness of the chocolate and coffee flavors. This is quickly becoming my favorite stout.

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Photo of CelticBelly1
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Wow, I'm amazed at the number of reviewers that didn't realize this was a sour stout.
Well done beer, very drinkable. When I want a dark beer on a hot July day I hope I can reach for one of these. Great food beer also

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Photo of 57md
3.34/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Looks like balsamic vinegar; thankfully it does not taste like balsamic vinegar. Mild sour notes on the nose and in the flavor profile. It's relatively drinkable and i could see myself drinking this on a warm summer day if only the body were a touch lighter.

That said, this sure as heck is not anything like a traditional stout.

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Photo of AdamMac
1.12/5  rDev -70.6%
look: 3 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Q: Can a good beer go bad in the bottle while waiting for a good home?

I am so sorry to rate like this, but this Stout had all the markings and ambiance I was looking for, but is the only beer in my known history that I leapt from the table to wash my mouth out upon first taste. Please, someone tell me the whole lot is not this way.

But just in case... This beer poured black as a cold night, just what I like! But didn't head very much. And what little head (foam) appeared was brownish and collected around the rim. The smell was acidic, sour, and had a full body underneath, but was overpowering in the sour. Upon first taste, it was not a swell of flavors, rather a sharp and staunch attack on the taste buds. I tried to stomach through, but could not withstand. I did, literally, jump up and run for the sink.

I double-checked afterward, and had the same reaction. I asked for a second opinion, and my wife, too, thought there was something wrong.

If anyone believes a beer could go bad, like it sat on the ocean floor for 100yrs after a shipwreck, just got brought to the surface and we're tasting for posterity sake, please let me know. I hate to give a bad rating if something was wrong with the juice. But if this is the way it's supposed to taste, believe me, it's not for the weak at heart.

I was really looking forward to a stout with my T-bone. :-(

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