Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout | Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn StoutMadrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
Michigan, United States
jollypumpkin.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.10%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Shovelbum on 02-12-2006

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,021
Reviews:
383
Avg:
3.81
pDev:
16.27%
 
 
Wants:
68
Gots:
168
For Trade:
12
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Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A sipper,but a good one. Wild yeast aroma and a tad of sour. A stout, a wild, a sour. Very brown to black coloured body and lacey. The sour, or should I better call it tartness, makes it so drinkable.The sourness does build up, so share this with another sour fan.

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4/5  rDev +5%

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4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle I brought to share at Retsinis' tasting.

Blend 3. Bottled 1/14/11.

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour and tart with dark roasted malt, cocoa, and woody aromas. Taste is much the same with fruity and cocoa flavors on the finish. There are mild amounts of roasty bitterness and acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is a solid sour stout.

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.07/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

hard to put that farmy funk into a darker beer sometimes. it can get crowded out by the roasty malt, but not in this case. here, its exactly dialed, and given BA's penchant for funky brews, im shocked this doesn't have higher scores. it pours an intimidating black color with a creamy thick mocha head with fine retention. the nose is almost sour, bretty maybe, definitely strange on the yeast front. that hits me before its intensely dark roasted malts do, which have a touch of smoke to them and quite a bit of attitude. the flavor is quite the opposite, finishing with that wild ale taste and starting with the bitter barley. there is some vanilla, charred oak, and almost fungusy earthiness to this. its dense in feel, but the carbonation is there to make it a bit more drinkable. still, it leaves a considerable residue in the entire mouth, reminding me of that dark funk that was. you could blindfold me and give me this, and I could tell you it was made by jolly pumpkin. not sure what it is, but they have a distinct character to their beers that is entirely their own. I really enjoyed this, and will anticipate my next bottle with much vigor. super stuff.

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2/5  rDev -47.5%

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4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of Knapp85
4.32/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Damn, this beer poured out as a beer black color, there was a fizzy head that vanished rather quickly. The smell has no hints of sour at all. All roasted and burnt malt wooden aromas. The taste is sour as hell in my opinion, it gets more sour as it warms. The beer also gives off plenty of smokey qualities along with burnt or toasted malts. It has a touch of chocolate in there too. A stunning brew for sure. The mouthfeel was smooth and lightly carbonated. Overall it was a really great pairing with the spicy French toast, chocolate dipping sause and coffee cotton candy.

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

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4/5  rDev +5%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of metter98
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is jet black in color and poured with a finger high creamy tan head that died down but consistently left a thin layer of bubbles covering the surface.
S: There are strong aromas of dark fruits in the nose.
T: Like the smell, the initial taste has flavors of dark fruits and a bit of sourness; however, these are quickly followed by roasted malts and finishes with a light to moderate amount of bitterness.
M: It feels medium-bodied and smooth on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The combination of fruity and roasted malt flavors is rather interesting yet it also makes this beer one that needs to be sipped slowly.

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Photo of BEERchitect
2.63/5  rDev -31%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Shocking the palate with sharp acidity, mouth puckering tartness, and coffee-like bitterness- this takes the taste buds on a journey miles long in a single sip.

The vinous ale pours with a dark barkish brown with the haze of suspended cocoa with the thin off-white head of lattes. Light on structure, the foam falls quickly with minimal lace. A fairly still beer in short order.

Very tart to the nose with acids that range from red wine vinegar to sour grapes, limes, and under ripened cherries; all are backed by a woody and coffee-like scent.

A burst of sourness and fruit tartness invade the palate with the serious flavors of the soured white grapes, tart cherries, and lemon rind have absolutely no mercy on the palate. The odd malt back of charred grains, roast coffee bitterness, and wood never allow any meaningful sweetness or starch to support the sourness- only providing an odd bitter-sour-ashy interplay that disagrees with the palate.

The mouth feel takes the brunt of the unpleasantries. Sour fruits start with a delightful and clean acidity before the ashy roast bitterness and oak derived astringency attack the sides of the tongue, inside jaws, and back of the throat with a powdery pang of saliva sucking needles.

Sourness and stouts are a complicated blend of textures, tastes, and balances- if it's going to work, I hardly believe that it could happen in a dry beer as it would almost have to have much more residual sweetness and body than what's on display here.

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3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, batch 998, bottled 02-15-2012. What is with the Hawaiian references on this brewery's labels?

This beer pours a deep, dark cola brown hue, with highlighted edges, and one finger of thinly creamy chocolate milk head, which leaves some Swiss cheese lace around the glass as it duly abates.

It smells of sour, somewhat musty fruit - cherry, lemon, and red grape, some mildly roasted chocolate malt, earthy yeast, and herbal, grassy hops. The taste is moderately sour black liqorice, nutty roasted malt, dry cocoa, mildly astringent wood chips, fruity plum esters, a wee bit o' musty funk, and persistent herbal, leafy hops.

The bubbles are fairly tame, but do sustain a low-level raspy edginess, the body definitely on the light side for the style, and so-so in its smoothness. It finishes off-dry, I suppose, the sourness of the fruit muffling any lingering malt, with the wood taking up the vacated space.

An interesting big-ass stout, to be sure - light, sour, hoppy, and boozy (thought you can't overtly tell on that last one). Not the norm, but enjoyable enough for its melding of styles.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.33/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

1 pint 9.4 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into an EKU 28 snifter in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a one finger head of nice tan colour, great cream, good thickness, and pretty good retention for the ABV. Colour is a nontransparent solid black.

Sm: Bretts and funkiness. Some fruit ester hops. Not at all what I expected from the style. I'm intrigued. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Funky yeast with fruit esters. Very different for an imperial stout, but still good. Not complex, but enjoyable. There's sort of some layering going on. Some wild yeasty sourness.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Not too thick or too thin. Complements the flavour pretty well.

Dr: Very drinkable for the ABV, and unique for the style. I like it, but I find myself wondering why they chose this style for the base. I'd get it again at a good price.

B-

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Photo of emerge077
3.98/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark umber-black in the glass, plently of foam, sticky lace, slowly settling over time.

Roasted malt in the aroma, and some fruity plum. I know the house yeast is in here from the taste, but it doesn't assert much in the aroma.

Roasty chocolate malt, slightly sour brett, tart cherry, leather, almonds. Rough, yet still some degree of complexity. A unique take on a Belgian Stout, hybrid qualities of American/Belgian origin.

Mouthfeel is smooth, dry with tart fruit in the aftertaste. One 750 is ok if you're prepared for a wild ride. Probably best shared, it's still a solid experimental offering.

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Photo of brentk56
4.38/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch 360/362

Appearance: Pours a suitably obscure dark color with a magnificent foamy head that leaves an impressive pattern of lace

Smell: Oak and sour cherries dominate the aroma, but underneath one can find, plenty of roast, dark fruit and chocolate

Taste: Opens with a wild and musty flavor of oak, sour cherries and roasted/charred meat; by mid-palate, a hint of sweet chocolate sneaks in underneath; after the swallow, the lactic sour flavors dominate the other subtle aspects into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body, somewhat creamy, with a lovely delicate foamy carbonation

Overall: Lots of complexity and very interesting; Jolly Pumpkin is a master at presenting lactic sour beers in a range of styles; my first review of this beer had lower scores but re-reviewing Batch 5 (bottled 1/21/11) was an eye-opener that bumped the scores up considerably

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2.75/5  rDev -27.8%

Photo of Phyl21ca
2.73/5  rDev -28.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle courtesy of Hogtownharry: Poured a deep black color stout with a big light brown foamy head with some good retention and minimal lacing. Aroma of roasted malt is mix with some sour bretty notes. Taste is also a mix between some roasted bitter malt notes with some sour and bretty notes which didn't mix very well IMO. Medium body with some good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. I am usually one up for experiment but the mix between stout and bretty Belgian is something I could do without.

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Photo of largadeer
3.71/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Black with brown highlights, totally opaque. The first pour produces a perfect 3 finger head and the retention on this thing was ridiculous, it never came close to receding.

Smell: Typical stout aromas of cocoa and roasted malt are mixed with a big wild bretty aroma, notes of oak and slight sourness. Strange to say the least.

Taste/mouthfeel: Flavors of baker's chocolate, charred malt, woody tannins and tons of brett funk. High carbonation on a medium body. The mouthfeel is bone-dry. The finish is a bizarre mix of roasted malt, funk, sourness and oak.

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3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
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