Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout | Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

BA SCORE
86
very good
1,018 Ratings
THE BROS
-
no score
Send samples
Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn StoutMadrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
Michigan, United States
jollypumpkin.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.10%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Shovelbum on 02-12-2006

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,018
Reviews:
381
Avg:
3.81
pDev:
16.01%
 
 
Wants:
69
Gots:
167
For Trade:
12
View: Beers | Events
User Ratings & Reviews
Sort by:  Recent | High | Low | Top Raters
Ratings: 1,018 |  Reviews: 381
Photo of FEUO
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of thegerm87
2.75/5  rDev -27.8%

Photo of KarlSpackler
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of MystikCelt
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of brbrocc
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of Woodysbeard
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of TMoney2591
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter at Bad Apple.

Figured this would go well with my awesome burger... It pours a deep dark ruby-brown topped by a short finger of tan foam. The nose comprises roasted malts, light red wine vinegar, light cocoa, and a touch of tart black cherry. The taste brings in more of the same, with the vinegar and cherry evenly matched with the chocolatey roast. At least to begin with: the tide turns in favor of the sour components, but the finish still holds hints of the fallen adversary. The body is a lithe medium, with a light moderate carbonation, a generally smooth feel, and a sorta/kinda dry finish. Overall, the classic sour stout, the best of both worlds. I can't see drinking this all that often, but it is indeed a fine treat on the occasions it's employed.

 780 characters

Photo of dumptruck81
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of t0rin0
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of bluckbeyes
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%

Photo of wordemupg
3.62/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle poured into tulip 15/10/12

A gusher nearly a fountain, big short lived mocha head leaves just a single ring of lace, liquids pretty dark but not quite black and a cola edge

S shes funky, infected alright but is that the Belgian aspect of this stout? intended or not this one has the horse blanket funk that's hard to miss, milk chocolate, sour cherries, nutty toffee and some raisin, happy accident or not this one works

T sour fruity notes and slightly less funk then I could smell but that still leaves a fair bit, some woody earthy notes and a little licorice and some faint booze

M thin and sour with just enough carbonation to give it some live, has a sour chocolate milk finish and well hidden booze

O If the sour funky notes were intended they shouldn't have bothered, if its an infection its sorta works with the beer, this is what I sound like when I talk out of both sides of my mouth, any questions?

I don't like reading reviews or more then whats written on the bottle because I know how it will influence my opinions of the beer. this beers sparked my curiosity and I'll be looking in to the sour notes to see if its intended

 1,158 characters

Photo of elcrawl
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of ystazi
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of litotes
4.65/5  rDev +22%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at The Brickstore in Atlanta.

A: The bar was dimly-lit, but the beer still showed a dark ruby next to my friends' Breakfast Stouts. Head was a creamy coffee color. Excellent retention, although I moved through the beer pretty quickly.

S: All of the roasted malt you would expect in an imperial, but already the coffee and chocolate notes are braced against bright, musky cherries.

T: Excellent. The assertive sour notes are more intriguing set against the backdrop of a rich, mountainous stout, and, to JP's credit, neither range of flavors dominates the palate. By far the best-tasting sour stout I have ever tried.

M: The body was substantially diminished from what the nose--or a regular experience with Imperial stouts--might suggest. Not watery, but thinner than I had hoped.

O: With such an expressive nose and taste, and basically perfect balance of two relatively indelicate flavor profiles, this is my favorite of Jolly Pumpkin's and my favorite example of the style.

 988 characters

Photo of freduardo
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of bryoung
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of biboergosum
3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle, batch 998, bottled 02-15-2012. What is with the Hawaiian references on this brewery's labels?

This beer pours a deep, dark cola brown hue, with highlighted edges, and one finger of thinly creamy chocolate milk head, which leaves some Swiss cheese lace around the glass as it duly abates.

It smells of sour, somewhat musty fruit - cherry, lemon, and red grape, some mildly roasted chocolate malt, earthy yeast, and herbal, grassy hops. The taste is moderately sour black liqorice, nutty roasted malt, dry cocoa, mildly astringent wood chips, fruity plum esters, a wee bit o' musty funk, and persistent herbal, leafy hops.

The bubbles are fairly tame, but do sustain a low-level raspy edginess, the body definitely on the light side for the style, and so-so in its smoothness. It finishes off-dry, I suppose, the sourness of the fruit muffling any lingering malt, with the wood taking up the vacated space.

An interesting big-ass stout, to be sure - light, sour, hoppy, and boozy (thought you can't overtly tell on that last one). Not the norm, but enjoyable enough for its melding of styles.

 1,108 characters

Photo of spoony
3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From a 750 ml bottle with a date of 1/12/12 into a snifter.

A-This is a dark, cola colored brew without much head or carbonation to speak of. The tiny head that rings the glass is dark, dark brown.

S-An interesting mix of some sour cherry, raisins, black licorice, hints of cocoa and roasty malts. Perhaps it was me, but every time I took a whiff of this beer, I got something a little different.

T-Tastes a bit like a chocolate covered cherry. The cocoa and chocolate flavors are more pronounced on the tongue than in the nostrils and the tartness faded a little as the beer warmed and my palate adjusted. Some roasted malt. A bit messy.

M-The beer is just on the heavier side of medium bodied with very little carbonation. It's not hard to drink for a sour stout, but definitely not a beer for chugging.

O-I liked this beer because I thought it was sort of fun and weird. That being said, both the smell and taste were a bit confusing and a little messy for everyday consumption. A little rough around the edges, but not a bad effort.

 1,042 characters

Photo of arash1000
4.75/5  rDev +24.7%

Photo of emilylee
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of mattsander
3.85/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Deep brown, modest head that recedes quickly.

S: Rich cocoa and roasty malts, cherry-fruit like lactic twang. Acidity is present but muted compared to oro de calabaza. Nice, but the pairing feels a little 'crude' or unrefined. Nicer after it breaths a while.

T: Like a sour cherry dipped in bittersweet chocolate. I prefer the taste to the aroma here, but I still feel like the bitterness of the stout retracts from the acidity.

M: Very slick and slippery mouthfeel. A sipper.

A very cool stout from JP. I'm curious if the acidity will increase over time, an interesting cellar candidate.

 596 characters

Photo of doucmehu
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of redleg64
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of claspada
3.33/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color with a medium-sized, short-lived beige head that dissipates leaving minimal lacing.

Aromas begin with roasted barley graininess with notes of dark chocolate, unripened plums, toffee, dark baker's cocoa chips and licorice. Dark fruit aromas emerge more as it warms.

The tastes begin with the roasted barley with a chocolatey maltiness. Fruited sourness some next, masking much of the maltiness and never allowing the distant sweetness to take hold. As it warms you get some of the licorice, plum and herbal/earthy mustiness also comes out

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium carbonation. Finish is dry and minimall roasty, almost smoky with and evergrowing tart presence.

Overall this is one of my least favorite Dark Sour Ales I have ever had. The flavors jsut don't seem harmoneous compared to much better varients including Sour Black, Tart of Darkness and Mother Barrel Select. A bit jumbled and off-putting to the palate.

 957 characters

Photo of Pinche_Oso
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
3.81 out of 5 based on 1,018 ratings.
  • About Us

    Founded in Boston in 1996, BeerAdvocate (BA) is your go-to resource for beer powered by an independent community of enthusiasts and professionals dedicated to supporting and promoting better beer.

    Learn More
  • Our Community

    Comprised of consumers and industry professionals, many of whom started as members of this site, our community is one of the oldest, largest, and most respected beer communities online.

    Learn More
  • Our Events

    Since 2003 we've hosted over 60 world-class beer festivals to bring awareness to independent brewers and educate attendees.

    Learn More
  • Our Magazine

    Support uncompromising beer advocacy and award-winning, independent journalism with a print subscription to BeerAdvocate magazine.

    Learn More