Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout | Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales

Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn StoutMadrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout
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Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn StoutMadrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout

Brewed by:
Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
Michigan, United States

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.10%

Availability: Winter

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Shovelbum on 02-12-2006

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Photo of redleg64
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

Photo of claspada
3.33/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color with a medium-sized, short-lived beige head that dissipates leaving minimal lacing.

Aromas begin with roasted barley graininess with notes of dark chocolate, unripened plums, toffee, dark baker's cocoa chips and licorice. Dark fruit aromas emerge more as it warms.

The tastes begin with the roasted barley with a chocolatey maltiness. Fruited sourness some next, masking much of the maltiness and never allowing the distant sweetness to take hold. As it warms you get some of the licorice, plum and herbal/earthy mustiness also comes out

The mouthfeel is medium bodied with medium carbonation. Finish is dry and minimall roasty, almost smoky with and evergrowing tart presence.

Overall this is one of my least favorite Dark Sour Ales I have ever had. The flavors jsut don't seem harmoneous compared to much better varients including Sour Black, Tart of Darkness and Mother Barrel Select. A bit jumbled and off-putting to the palate.

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Photo of Pinche_Oso
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

3.54/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Jolly Pumpkin Madrugada Obscura – Dark Dawn Stout

Appearance: Dark Dawn lives up to its name. This beer is nearly pitch black with just a suggestion of deep ruby color near the edges of the glass. The one finger of khaki colored head that is initially present on the (reasonably hard, in this case) pour is extremely evanescent. It vanishes with barely any trace of the ring one typically finds left behind in this style of beer. The bubbles that do remain are tightly packed and tiny, but they leave great lacing behind. Alcohol legs are relatively visible, but it is difficult to tell in such a dark stout. As the beer goes down, the ring of head that remained disappears completely. This beer looks intimidating and pensive (if a beer can be such). There is also a certain degree of majesty to it.

Aroma: Church wine comes to mind when smelling this beer. Heavy vinegar (which merely suggests wine, as there no grape notes to be found here) and sour apple notes hit hard up front, followed by typical chocolate and deep roasty, coffee-esque notes that one expects in a stout. There are certainly suggestions of cherry notes and perhaps dark fruit of some kind, but these are simply outlying hints, rather than full-fledged notes. This beer is nothing if not interesting and unique smelling.

Taste: The mouth is as complex as the nose, but not as pleasing. This one initially tastes like eating a cigar, but the tongue is quickly and mercifully relieved by a sour apple quality. Soon after that the roasty stout characteristics take over, only to be quickly usurped by sour cherry flavors. This beer moves extremely quickly from one flavor profile to another, which gives the impression of a sort of identity crisis. This is an extremely earthy taste through and through due both to the stout, the sourness, and the hints of yeast that come with bottle conditioning. It is not unpleasant to drink, but it is a bit unsettling. The alcohol is not present anywhere in the taste. This is unquestionably a sipper, as quick drinking will no doubt lead to gut rot and a trip to the bathroom. That said, the beer gets better both as it warms up and goes down.

Mouthfeel: This is a low-to-medium bodied beer that is a tad watery for a stout, but this is hardly a typical stout in any other sense of the word anyway. The medium-low carbonation does its job of ushering the flavors around and plays well with the sour characteristics of the beer. There is no alcohol presence here either.

Overall: This was a somewhat disappointing introduction to Jolly Pumpkin beers and sour beers in general. I have only ever experienced one sour beer and was not overly fond of it, so this may be a beer worth revisiting in the future after my tastebuds are more accustomed to the qualities of sour beers. Unlike many other reviewers, I found the sour and the stout characters to mix really well together; I did not fall in love with the flavor, but they suggest the same earthy quality that one expects from each individual style; perhaps this is the theme that Jolly Pumpkin decided to combine them around. Fans of sours should give this one a shot, but stout drinkers should look elsewhere. The stout flavors are too overpowered by the sours and buying this beer for the stout qualities would be a waste of $16. Drink this one slow, preferably shared with a friend, and when you finish be sure to save the bottle: it is awesome and evokes memories of Chernabog, the demon in Fantasia. The bottle itself might be worth the $16 simply for the cool factor, but the beer is not bad either; it just is not something I would actively seek out again. 14.5/20

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Photo of Jiatlas
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

Photo of szmnnl99
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of ToddT
4.08/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Black topped with a thick tan head, head lasts forever and leaves a nice lace pattern on the glass.

S- Toffee, caramel, hints of wood char, peat moss, and wood smoke.

T- Roasted malt and hints of wood char at first, this is soon washed away by dominate sour fruit notes. This continues to get more sour right up to the finish which is almost puckering, dry and earthy. Candied cranberries come to mind to describe the sour notes.

F- More than medium in body and low in carbonation, creamy and silky in the mouth, the body is very well done.

O- Interesting, I don't think I have ever had anything quite like this. I do truly like the contrasting tastes in this. The 8.1% ABV makes it a sipper and drinking it at cellar temperature does make the flavors work together much better. I would not recommend this to everyone, definitely for an adventuresome palate. Of course it could be fun to surprise a friend or two with this by not giving them any warning of what they are in for.

Notes: From Blend #10, bottled on 2-16-11, been aging this one a bit myself in the back of the beer closet.

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Photo of kbuzz
2.87/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a snifter...Batch 998, bottled 2/15/12.

A: Pours an opaque pitch black. Some bigger tan bubbles when first poured out, but faded pretty quickly to a rim. Alcohol legs are present.

S: Two notes dominate: a faint bit of char at first, and then the JP funk. The line between them is blurred however, because they both give off a degree of they fade back and forth between each far it seems to be working. Magic marker, vinegar...maybe even a bit of a floral hop note. Some faint chocolate notes.

T/M: First sip...kind of boring. Not at all complex. Some hop bitterness, vinegary tartness, not much char or roast whatsoever and then finishes with a little dose of baker's chocolate that lingers on the palate. The mouthfeel is even more dissapointing. Very thin. A little slick on the tongue. They did manage to dial down the carbonation for this, but it doesn't make up for how thin the beer is overall.

O: Easily the most dissapointing JP beer I've had. Just a really simple, forgettable beer. Not a lot of stout characteristics nor any of their typical sour notes. It's almost as if the styles cancelled each other out. I would say they missed the mark on this, except I don't know that there is a mark for sour stouts...that said, this is average at best. To be competey honest, it tastes REALLY similar to Duck Rabbit's unintentionally infected stouts.

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Photo of meanmutt
4.25/5  rDev +10.4%

Photo of dhbiker0889
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%

Photo of MarkyMOD
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of gshackles
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

Photo of rarapacz
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%

Photo of twkirkby
3.25/5  rDev -15.6%

Photo of angrybabboon
3.53/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cheers to Goblinmunkey7 for sharing this beer and subsequently farting constantly (to ruin my ability to smell this beer?)

Appearance: Dark brown, pours with a fluffy tan head, retains a nice cap, leaves some gobs of lacing behind

Smell: Dark malts with some sour in the background - chocolate malts, with some grainy dryness - lactic acid, funk, and some straight-up sour - some earthy hops, some citrus, some overall complexity

Taste: Roasty, slightly burnt malts, at the front, then a rush of sour - lactic sourness, some wood, some pepper, some lemon - chocolate malts, dark chocolate, cooked, lightly toasted grains - kind of more like a porter base than a stout - some earthy and burnt bitterness

Mouthfeel: Medium body, fizzy carbonation, a bit too carbonated, a lingering, sticky acidity

Overall: Good for a sour stout

This is good for what it is, but I must admit that I am reaching the conclusion that I do not really care for sour stouts. It's just such a weird style. I guess I can't take off many points for my own personal issues, however, as this is a great example of how to sour a stout.

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Photo of Goblinmunkey7
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split the bottle with angrybabboon. Bottled 2-17-2011.

Appearance: Pours almost straight black. Moderate carbonation produces a huge dark tan head that drops to a chunk collar after a few minutes. Notches of lacing.

Smell: Sour cherries and chocolate malts in abundance. Cocoa and milk chocolate layered over oak barrel. Slight lactic sourness. Roasted malts and some hints of leather and tobacco leaf.

Taste: Roasted malts and Jolly Pumpkin barrel. Cocoa and a slight lactic bite. Some mild coffee bean. Sweet roasted malts. Slight oxidized edge. Leather coupled with tobacco leaf. A damp earthiness. Cocoa powder. Some hay and grass. Like licking a battery covered in chocolate malt.

Mouthfeel: Moderate to light body. Carbonation is moderate and helps spread the dryness.

Overall: Cold this thing is a mess. The flavors are all over the place. As it warms everything comes together. The roasted and chocolate malts work really well with with Jolly pumpkin barrel sour flavors. My suggestion, drink it warm.

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Photo of GregoryMo
4.25/5  rDev +10.4%

Photo of Bearski-Beerski
5/5  rDev +29.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Batch: 981
Bottled: 02/07/12
Consumed: 08/17/12
Appearance: Pitch black with plenty of golden brown lace.
Smell: Instant vinegary sour presence with coffee and chocolate notes; (Complexly challenging, but lovely).
Taste: Skips tart and goes straight to sour apple or so. Notes of coffee bitterness and dark chocolate bitterness do shine through as well. Roasted flavor lingering a little bit too, (All awesome).
Mouthfeel: Smooth, light bodied feel with a mild tickle sensation.
Overall: I found it hard to rate such an ingenious brew negatively.
So far I haven't had a Jolly Pumpkin that's done anything except make my taste buds sing. Sour is sour. So, if that doesn't work for you, don't be ashamed. It might simply be an acquired taste.
Stay parched my friends!

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Photo of hickmancase
3/5  rDev -22.1%

Photo of adamant1912
4.5/5  rDev +16.9%

Photo of bmur112
4/5  rDev +3.9%

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4/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of jmdrpi
3.06/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

750 mL capped bottle. Sticker on bottle says "Batch 962 Bottled 01-16-2012".

opaque black, thick creamy off-white head. nice lacing and retention.

well the aroma answers whether it's a sour beer like Jolly Pumpkins other offerings. I wasn't expecting it, as I thought they'd ferment an Imperial Stout with a regular yeast. Big aroma of sour cherry.

taste starts extremely roasty, then finishes extremely sour. vinegar, fermented fruit, puckering. I don't think the flavors jive with each other. medium thickness and carbonation, a little oily.

overall - unfortunately, not for me. Honestly, I don't see much difference between this beer and the few non-intentionally soured barrel aged stouts I've had that were recalled by their brewers.

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Photo of RuckusDu
3.41/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - There is a lot of head on this beer. Like three fingers worth or something. The color, is like, a little brown, and a little tan, and a lot of coffee. Body is so dark I can't see anything behind the beer. Really goes down to about 2mm for any light. Some alright lacing on this beverage.

S - I think this beer is confused. Is it a sour or a stout? I'm like, come on here. Ok, I think it is meant to be both, but does that really work? There are some smells of raspberries and other tart fruits, like sour milk. Then it is chocolate and sweet chocolate. Mmmm, I loooove chocolate.

T - Oh my Jesus. So sour and so dark. Definite lemon/lime and a little rind on the hangy thing behind my tongue. Not a lot of sweet stout on this one until late in the finish. Just a hint, tiny hint, of chocolate.

M - It feels like beer in my mouth. A little bit drying, but super carbonation and body. Sexily done.

O - I would say I'm in love with this beer, or that I love this beer. The sour milk is just, I don't know, not super. Probably just not my type.

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Photo of JustinMatthew
4/5  rDev +3.9%

Madrugada Obscura, Dark Dawn Stout from Jolly Pumpkin Artisan Ales
Beer rating: 71.6% out of 100 with 1,021 ratings
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