Saranac Black Forest Black Beer
Matt Brewing Company / Saranac Brewery
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- Style:
- German Schwarzbier
Ranked #68 - ABV:
- 5.5%
- Score:
- 84
Ranked #30,243 - Avg:
- 3.75 | pDev: 13.07%
- Reviews:
- 578
- Ratings:
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- Matt Brewing Company / Saranac Brewery
- New York, United States
- Avail:
- Rotating
- Wants
- 50
- Gots
- 152
SCORE
84
Good
84
Good
Notes:
A Bavarian Black beer with distinctive caramel malt sweetness and a rich creamy trademark head. Flavorful, yet smooth…very drinkable!
Reviews: 578
| Ratings: 1,157
3.71/5 rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Pours a very dark brown with ruby highlights, a one inch tan head that left decent lacing. Smells of caramel, roasted malts and a bit of hops. Tastes of sweet caramel, toffee, roasted malts, bread, cherries and a touch of hops. Light to medium bodied, soft carbonation, smooth mouth feel, mild bitterness on the finish.
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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Pours a very dark brown with ruby highlights, a one inch tan head that left decent lacing. Smells of caramel, roasted malts and a bit of hops. Tastes of sweet caramel, toffee, roasted malts, bread, cherries and a touch of hops. Light to medium bodied, soft carbonation, smooth mouth feel, mild bitterness on the finish.
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3.88/5 rDev +3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Another decent brew from this brewer...
Not quite black, the beer pours out very dark brown with highlights of dark caramel. The smell was light on malt with a touch of caramel added in. Mouthfeel was light and light in carbonation as I prefer. I enjoyed the taste which followed along with the smell - malty and very lightly caramel sweet. Overall, this is a solid beer, glad to have it on hand during the long Thanksgiving weekend.
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look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Another decent brew from this brewer...
Not quite black, the beer pours out very dark brown with highlights of dark caramel. The smell was light on malt with a touch of caramel added in. Mouthfeel was light and light in carbonation as I prefer. I enjoyed the taste which followed along with the smell - malty and very lightly caramel sweet. Overall, this is a solid beer, glad to have it on hand during the long Thanksgiving weekend.
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3.71/5 rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Poured into a narrow pint glass: color is near black at the top and dark amber at the bottom, head is light tan with fine bubbles, initially presenting about 1/2 inch thick.
Smell is light roast, stronger caramel, light bread, hint of grassy hops.
Taste is light caramel, maybe some toffee, some bread; flavor reminds be of a light bock as the roast is a bit less than some other schwarzbier.
Mouthfeel is light carbonation and light lingering sweetness.
Overall a good darker lager with characteristics of schwarzbier and bock with the lighter roast and moderate caramel.
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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Poured into a narrow pint glass: color is near black at the top and dark amber at the bottom, head is light tan with fine bubbles, initially presenting about 1/2 inch thick.
Smell is light roast, stronger caramel, light bread, hint of grassy hops.
Taste is light caramel, maybe some toffee, some bread; flavor reminds be of a light bock as the roast is a bit less than some other schwarzbier.
Mouthfeel is light carbonation and light lingering sweetness.
Overall a good darker lager with characteristics of schwarzbier and bock with the lighter roast and moderate caramel.
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3.96/5 rDev +5.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4
Dark fruits, raisins, chocolate...delicious. Light and easy to drink like a lager but flavorful and fun too. I miss this beer! Is it still in production?
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look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4
Dark fruits, raisins, chocolate...delicious. Light and easy to drink like a lager but flavorful and fun too. I miss this beer! Is it still in production?
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3.66/5 rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75
A Dark beer, tan head, looks deep and dark, smells of mutated lemons, grapefruit, bitter caramel, hay, toffee, cotton candy.
On the tongue it is very sweet and malty, love the malt, there is however the usual American fascination with hops which put this slightly into the bitter category on the back end, but overall a nice balanced beer, slightly bitter, but passable.
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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75
A Dark beer, tan head, looks deep and dark, smells of mutated lemons, grapefruit, bitter caramel, hay, toffee, cotton candy.
On the tongue it is very sweet and malty, love the malt, there is however the usual American fascination with hops which put this slightly into the bitter category on the back end, but overall a nice balanced beer, slightly bitter, but passable.
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3.68/5 rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
12oz bottle into Perfect Pint glass
BB 12/31/17
L- pours a dark brown/black, with a huge creamy tan head, and lacing
S- some sweet malt
T- slight toffee, followed by some coffee notes, and a smooth finish
F- clean crisp and smooth
Overall this a typical schwarzbier, light and easy drinking, with the bare minimum of roastiness
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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
12oz bottle into Perfect Pint glass
BB 12/31/17
L- pours a dark brown/black, with a huge creamy tan head, and lacing
S- some sweet malt
T- slight toffee, followed by some coffee notes, and a smooth finish
F- clean crisp and smooth
Overall this a typical schwarzbier, light and easy drinking, with the bare minimum of roastiness
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3.9/5 rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
This beer pours a crystal clear color that looks brown until it is held up to the light revealing a lovely shade of deep ruby garnett. The head is two fingers, creamy and tan.
Smell is sweet caramel malts with a touch of roastiness.
Taste is similar with a bit of green vegetal hop flavor that provides a moderately bitter finish.
Feel is light and smooth. There is a nice tingle from the bitterness on the finish.
Overall this is a very good beer. Very flavorful yet easy drinking. Happy Saranac brought this back so that I could finally review it as this is an old favorite of mine.
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look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
This beer pours a crystal clear color that looks brown until it is held up to the light revealing a lovely shade of deep ruby garnett. The head is two fingers, creamy and tan.
Smell is sweet caramel malts with a touch of roastiness.
Taste is similar with a bit of green vegetal hop flavor that provides a moderately bitter finish.
Feel is light and smooth. There is a nice tingle from the bitterness on the finish.
Overall this is a very good beer. Very flavorful yet easy drinking. Happy Saranac brought this back so that I could finally review it as this is an old favorite of mine.
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3.5/5 rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
The appearance has a dark, almost purplish-brown body with a small creamy colored head and had a slightly reddish beige color of the head with very small lacing. The smell has black cherries, some light malt, some berry aromas, and subdued chocolate. The taste is basically the same as the previously mentioned flavors through a decent bittersweetness. The palate is about a medium; comes across slightly creamy; with a quick clean finish, berry/chocolate aftertaste, slightly sessionable. Overall, this is good for the style and good for me.
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look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
The appearance has a dark, almost purplish-brown body with a small creamy colored head and had a slightly reddish beige color of the head with very small lacing. The smell has black cherries, some light malt, some berry aromas, and subdued chocolate. The taste is basically the same as the previously mentioned flavors through a decent bittersweetness. The palate is about a medium; comes across slightly creamy; with a quick clean finish, berry/chocolate aftertaste, slightly sessionable. Overall, this is good for the style and good for me.
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4.18/5 rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
Poured from bottle into tulip, little under a finger of tan colored head, recedes after a minute so so lacing. Dark ruby brown in the glass, little light filters thru. Smells of roasted malt, some caramel peeking thru. Taste is pretty complex for a schwarzbier, initial caramel sweetness, roasted malt taking a backseat here, more predominant on the nose than the palate. There is some dark fruit in the middle there, reminiscent of what you pick up in quads, but very muted. Finishes up with a very mild bitterness. This is a really nice Schwarzbier, perhaps beating out my old favorite Reasonably Corrupt (which I have to give a real review one day)
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look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
Poured from bottle into tulip, little under a finger of tan colored head, recedes after a minute so so lacing. Dark ruby brown in the glass, little light filters thru. Smells of roasted malt, some caramel peeking thru. Taste is pretty complex for a schwarzbier, initial caramel sweetness, roasted malt taking a backseat here, more predominant on the nose than the palate. There is some dark fruit in the middle there, reminiscent of what you pick up in quads, but very muted. Finishes up with a very mild bitterness. This is a really nice Schwarzbier, perhaps beating out my old favorite Reasonably Corrupt (which I have to give a real review one day)
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3.4/5 rDev -9.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5
Pours opaque, dark brown in color with 1/4inch head, Taste is fresh malt, grain, and light chocolate..Light bodied, sweet, with moderate carbonation..Very clean..Makes for a solid, average schwarzbier...Worth a shot if you like the style..
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5
Pours opaque, dark brown in color with 1/4inch head, Taste is fresh malt, grain, and light chocolate..Light bodied, sweet, with moderate carbonation..Very clean..Makes for a solid, average schwarzbier...Worth a shot if you like the style..
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3.33/5 rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5
Poured from a bottle into a pint glass.
Appearance: Darker reddish brown with a thin beige head.
Smell: Fruity tones and Malts.
Mouthfeel/ Taste: Smooth medium bodied. Taste of sweeter malts.
Overall: Good beer. I would have this one again.
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look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5
Poured from a bottle into a pint glass.
Appearance: Darker reddish brown with a thin beige head.
Smell: Fruity tones and Malts.
Mouthfeel/ Taste: Smooth medium bodied. Taste of sweeter malts.
Overall: Good beer. I would have this one again.
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3.59/5 rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
The beer pours a nice off white and creamy head that dissipates rather quickly. The beer itself is a very nice black color with a decent texture and sheen to it.
The smell is okay. It has a light dark chocolate and weak caramel note. There is a light roasted malt note but it does not come out much.
The taste is okay. It has a light dark chocolate and light roasted note with a slight hop note to it. It also has that slight 'clean' taste you get with a lager yeast. There is also a very light caramel note that travels with the chocolate but gets easily overtaken by the other notes.
The feel is okay. It's a beer that's bordering between light bodied and medium bodied but falls on the lighter side due to the biting carbonation. It has smooth and clean and slightly dry finish.
Overall, a less than stellar beer but not entirely worth writing off. The beer is drinkable and decent when it's fresh instead of when it's close to its expiration date.
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look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
The beer pours a nice off white and creamy head that dissipates rather quickly. The beer itself is a very nice black color with a decent texture and sheen to it.
The smell is okay. It has a light dark chocolate and weak caramel note. There is a light roasted malt note but it does not come out much.
The taste is okay. It has a light dark chocolate and light roasted note with a slight hop note to it. It also has that slight 'clean' taste you get with a lager yeast. There is also a very light caramel note that travels with the chocolate but gets easily overtaken by the other notes.
The feel is okay. It's a beer that's bordering between light bodied and medium bodied but falls on the lighter side due to the biting carbonation. It has smooth and clean and slightly dry finish.
Overall, a less than stellar beer but not entirely worth writing off. The beer is drinkable and decent when it's fresh instead of when it's close to its expiration date.
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3.88/5 rDev +3.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75
Dark brown with three fingers of light brown head that leaves solid lacing. "Lager-like" aroma of floral hops, with some sweet malt and, yep, a hint of cinnamon behind. Taste is malt forward, with a dry finishing roasty-caramel-and-stale-hop combo thing going. Just a hint of the muted sourness traditional to the style. A slight creaminess to the mouthfeel, too. Not my favorite schwartzbier, but it at least hits all the right notes.
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75
Dark brown with three fingers of light brown head that leaves solid lacing. "Lager-like" aroma of floral hops, with some sweet malt and, yep, a hint of cinnamon behind. Taste is malt forward, with a dry finishing roasty-caramel-and-stale-hop combo thing going. Just a hint of the muted sourness traditional to the style. A slight creaminess to the mouthfeel, too. Not my favorite schwartzbier, but it at least hits all the right notes.
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3.34/5 rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.25
I love a schwarzbier but this is entirely lackluster. How the "bros" rated this a 96 I'll never know. Arguably the worst I've had per style but still gets a marginal rating because these roasty German rarities are fairly few and far between and even a mediocre one is worth trying once imo.
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look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.25
I love a schwarzbier but this is entirely lackluster. How the "bros" rated this a 96 I'll never know. Arguably the worst I've had per style but still gets a marginal rating because these roasty German rarities are fairly few and far between and even a mediocre one is worth trying once imo.
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4.81/5 rDev +28.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75
It's been awhile since I have had this beer but it tastes exactly as I remember. A dark beer with roasted notes in the taste and a smooth finish. This is probably one of my favorite beers from Saranac.
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look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75
It's been awhile since I have had this beer but it tastes exactly as I remember. A dark beer with roasted notes in the taste and a smooth finish. This is probably one of my favorite beers from Saranac.
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2.92/5 rDev -22.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3
The other Saranac beer that I don't mind drinking, this one was actually a bit of a disappointment. I went through a Schwarzbier kick after visiting a different brewery, but this one didn't cut it. Thinner than I expected, poured more brown than black. There is not much in the form of aromas, a little roastiness, a little bit of German hops. The flavor is dominated by a bad tasting yeast, and the beer is slightly more dry and bitter than I would expect.
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look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3
The other Saranac beer that I don't mind drinking, this one was actually a bit of a disappointment. I went through a Schwarzbier kick after visiting a different brewery, but this one didn't cut it. Thinner than I expected, poured more brown than black. There is not much in the form of aromas, a little roastiness, a little bit of German hops. The flavor is dominated by a bad tasting yeast, and the beer is slightly more dry and bitter than I would expect.
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2.74/5 rDev -26.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75
Thin brown pour, it is lighter than the name black forest would imply the color would be. Thin light brown head. Nuttiness in the aroma, chocolate malt kind of missing, same with roasted qualities.
This lacks the pop of a schwarzbier, the hops, the carbonation, the roast. Comes off more like a watered down brown ale. Not bitter enough. Not roasted enough. Not enough of what this beer should have to be classified as such.
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look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75
Thin brown pour, it is lighter than the name black forest would imply the color would be. Thin light brown head. Nuttiness in the aroma, chocolate malt kind of missing, same with roasted qualities.
This lacks the pop of a schwarzbier, the hops, the carbonation, the roast. Comes off more like a watered down brown ale. Not bitter enough. Not roasted enough. Not enough of what this beer should have to be classified as such.
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3.98/5 rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Pours a very nice dark brown color with a very robust cream color head. Smells faintly hoppy. Initial taste is light and fruity with a slight malty, coffee aftertaste. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised with this brew. I will definitely enjoy more of this.
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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Pours a very nice dark brown color with a very robust cream color head. Smells faintly hoppy. Initial taste is light and fruity with a slight malty, coffee aftertaste. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised with this brew. I will definitely enjoy more of this.
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4.03/5 rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4
On the docket: Saranac Black Forest Black Beer with a date of 1/25/15. Pretty old, I blame the establishment from which I purchased it, and the fact I didn’t look until I got home. Caveat emptor.
Poured into: Sam Adams perfect pint glass
S: A deep, amber-brown body with violet highlights supports a dense, pockmarked beige head. Tiny bubbles zip to the underbrush of the head’s bottom. Eventually, the head subsides into a clearing, a small ring on top. Lacing is sporadic due to the beer’s age, or a non-beer-clean glass, or both.
A: Clean, with a hint of caramel, a touch of sweetness, and white-bready grain. Subtle hop aroma of earth and a twist of lemon.
T: Smooth clean malt, a dash of roast. Sweet start but drying finish. Reasonably bitter and hoppy, with earth and lemon carrying through from the aroma. There’s something a little off, I just can’t quite tell what. DMS? Am I crazy?
F: Medium-light, persistent, tiny bubbles. Sweet on the start, but chalky and drying on the finish. Crisp, drinkable.
O: Consumed fresh, I’m sure this one is fantastic, as evidenced by “the brothers.” Old, it’s certainly drinkable, but not how the brewer’s intended. It does, however, sport all the hallmarks of a well-made Schwarzbier.
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look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4
On the docket: Saranac Black Forest Black Beer with a date of 1/25/15. Pretty old, I blame the establishment from which I purchased it, and the fact I didn’t look until I got home. Caveat emptor.
Poured into: Sam Adams perfect pint glass
S: A deep, amber-brown body with violet highlights supports a dense, pockmarked beige head. Tiny bubbles zip to the underbrush of the head’s bottom. Eventually, the head subsides into a clearing, a small ring on top. Lacing is sporadic due to the beer’s age, or a non-beer-clean glass, or both.
A: Clean, with a hint of caramel, a touch of sweetness, and white-bready grain. Subtle hop aroma of earth and a twist of lemon.
T: Smooth clean malt, a dash of roast. Sweet start but drying finish. Reasonably bitter and hoppy, with earth and lemon carrying through from the aroma. There’s something a little off, I just can’t quite tell what. DMS? Am I crazy?
F: Medium-light, persistent, tiny bubbles. Sweet on the start, but chalky and drying on the finish. Crisp, drinkable.
O: Consumed fresh, I’m sure this one is fantastic, as evidenced by “the brothers.” Old, it’s certainly drinkable, but not how the brewer’s intended. It does, however, sport all the hallmarks of a well-made Schwarzbier.
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4.51/5 rDev +20.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5
I haven't had this beer in a long time...had one tonight, forgot how good it was!
To me, it's a light dark beer. Nice flavor, smooth, very drinkable.
Saranac does it again, nice work Utica.
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look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5
I haven't had this beer in a long time...had one tonight, forgot how good it was!
To me, it's a light dark beer. Nice flavor, smooth, very drinkable.
Saranac does it again, nice work Utica.
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4.52/5 rDev +20.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75
Had some trepidation, fearing this beer would not be as good as I remembered it.
Well, it's as good if not better. Hard to imagine how a brewery with so much mediocre offerings can nail one style so wonderfully
Two finger dense head from a slow pour. Gorgeous dark brown with garnet edges. Inviting
Smell is pilsner like with plenty of grain and noble hops.
Taste is on point for style. A great beer for an autumn session or barbecue chicken pairing. I want another after I finish this one.
If Saranac would reinstate some of their old winter favorites into their lineup and focus on their lagers with mor care they could be a good brewery. In the meantime I'll remain dubious yet curious. Either way, this beer is going into rotation. Big time
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look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75
Had some trepidation, fearing this beer would not be as good as I remembered it.
Well, it's as good if not better. Hard to imagine how a brewery with so much mediocre offerings can nail one style so wonderfully
Two finger dense head from a slow pour. Gorgeous dark brown with garnet edges. Inviting
Smell is pilsner like with plenty of grain and noble hops.
Taste is on point for style. A great beer for an autumn session or barbecue chicken pairing. I want another after I finish this one.
If Saranac would reinstate some of their old winter favorites into their lineup and focus on their lagers with mor care they could be a good brewery. In the meantime I'll remain dubious yet curious. Either way, this beer is going into rotation. Big time
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4/5 rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
I don't usually like dark beers, but this one is really well balanced and delicious. A lot of dark beers tend to be too malt-forward for my taste, but Black Forest has a great hoppy bite that complements the dark malt. It tastes like a really solid lager, just with a little more of the dark roasted malt flavors coming through, and a slightly thicker mouthfeel.
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look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
I don't usually like dark beers, but this one is really well balanced and delicious. A lot of dark beers tend to be too malt-forward for my taste, but Black Forest has a great hoppy bite that complements the dark malt. It tastes like a really solid lager, just with a little more of the dark roasted malt flavors coming through, and a slightly thicker mouthfeel.
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3.52/5 rDev -6.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Once the dust settled it was just an average schwarzbier. Smooth and dark but lacked much flavor. I've made much better schwarzbier at $25 for a 48 bottle yield.
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
Once the dust settled it was just an average schwarzbier. Smooth and dark but lacked much flavor. I've made much better schwarzbier at $25 for a 48 bottle yield.
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3.67/5 rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
Another beer I picked up in bottle from a sampler pack. Was really good, surprising that my wife liked it too. Very nice color and aroma with just right taste and balance for me.
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look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
Another beer I picked up in bottle from a sampler pack. Was really good, surprising that my wife liked it too. Very nice color and aroma with just right taste and balance for me.
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4.75/5 rDev +26.7%
Pours clear, deep reddish-brown color. Small head that dissipates quickly. Some minor lacing. Notes of caramel and burnt coffee with a mild bitterness. Full flavored without being heavy. Excellent!
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Pours clear, deep reddish-brown color. Small head that dissipates quickly. Some minor lacing. Notes of caramel and burnt coffee with a mild bitterness. Full flavored without being heavy. Excellent!
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Saranac Black Forest Black Beer from Matt Brewing Company / Saranac Brewery
Beer rating:
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