Scientists Suggest Beer After Workout

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  1. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    Depends, are you critiquing the science or the lack of clarity on it? Making a sweeping statement like "this field is all BS" should require some credentials. If I said "All IPAs are terrible," you'd ask me to back up my statement.

    The media (arguably scientifically illiterate) is tasked with reporting to the public (demonstrably scientifically illiterate). Truth gets lost along the way. This thread is a great case in point; the scientist referenced didn't even say what the article claimed he did. I'm quicker to blame the media when I see contradictory messages.

    That being said, there's all sorts of sloppy science out there too. Every field has people who are bad at their jobs and people who do great work. But just as fast food workers who are bad at their jobs get filtered out, I trust that the academic system has similar protocols in place. I'm more inclined to trust them than the average guy who probably hasn't taken science since high school. Just because skepticism is healthy doesn't mean it is informed.

    I figured it might be something like this. It seems to be, handwavily speaking, that a lot of difficulty in biology-related experiments is even identifying which factors need to be controlled in the first place (not to mention controlling them at all, given how much human beings differ).
     
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  2. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    I agree with statement 1. But that confirms what I have been saying.

    A normal serving of gatorade contains far more HFCS than is necessary as well as more than likely using very low quality gmo hfcs.

    At any rate it is useless to argue one against the other, its better to build a post workout drink that suits your body and workout.
     
  3. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    How does one go about this?
     
  4. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    Doing some research.
     
  5. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    Well, thanks anyway.
     
  6. Tchfunkta

    Tchfunkta Initiate (0) May 14, 2009 Kentucky

    Water, dextrose & a broad spectrum of amino acids.
     
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  7. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    Yeah, I'd expect you to back up your statement, but I wouldn't discount it just because you aren't a professional in the brewing industry. I wouldn't even expect you to be a homebrewer, just familiar with beers.

    Can't disagree with that.

    My point, which was implied, is that despite lots of research, we have barely scratched the surface on the complexity of the human body and the interactions of various chemical compounds in foods when ingested. To then make some sweeping generalization like "we did a study and X food/drink is bad for you" is an example of the hubris of the scientific community. Releasing preliminary research and coming to generalized conclusions which are later contradicted by other studies contributes to my statement that what passes for nutritional science is a lot of BS, as evidenced by this simple thread where several BAs who seem to have a decent knowledge of nutritional chemistry have vastly different opinions on the effects of the same drinks.
     
  8. MikeTen

    MikeTen Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2009 California

    Agreed.

    My understanding is that it is press releases that say that.
     
  9. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    No, you initially said "low alcohol" then you changed it to "no alcohol." They are not the same, and what you "have been saying" is unclear. Yes, your second statement was accurate that no alcohol beer has benefits, as supported by the link you provided. No, your first statement that low alcohol beer is better than Gatorade was not accurate, nor have you been able to provide evidence otherwise. Perhaps it's my misunderstanding of your definition of "low alcohol," but you are not going to convince anyone.

    I am under the impression that you are not qualified for, nor do you have any evidence to support how much HFCS "is necessary" for people post-workout.

    Nor do you have any evidence supporting the implication that the quality of HFCS matters or that GMO HFCS is worse than non-gmo HFCS.

    Nor do you have any evidence supporting your claim that "low alcohol" beer is better post-workout than Gatorade.

    I won't get into this any further with you because it's clear you are just repeating information you heard from others without understanding the fundamental science behind this topic.
     
  10. tcanaday

    tcanaday Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2012 California

    I always have a shower beer after a work out.
     
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  11. crossovert

    crossovert Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2009 Illinois

    I never changed anything, you misunderstood and obviously have a hard time admitting it.
     
  12. BeerLoversInternational

    BeerLoversInternational Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2013 Germany

    I use to run with my company back at Bragg half drunk then next morning all the time. Felt that I ran better the night after a good time. Cant say that the guys behind me were enjoying the smell to much though:slight_smile: I think I am getting to old for that anyways:slight_smile:
     
  13. BeerLoversInternational

    BeerLoversInternational Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2013 Germany

    I love the shower beer!! Nothing is better after a long days work than an ice cold beer and a steaming hot shower!!!
     
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  14. BeerLoversInternational

    BeerLoversInternational Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2013 Germany

    I cant find the link, but I remember reading about this. It mentioned something along the lines of how a small amount of beer, perhaps .2 liters, hydrates the same or better than water. At such a small amount perhaps the added nutrients in beer do become more beneficial than the negative effect of alcohol. However, of course, .2 liters of anything is not enough to hydrate after a proper workout, and any more alcohol and you would definitely start to hinder the rehydrating effects. Its a win lose, thought I say more of a win because, well, you get to drink a beer.... Sometimes its just more fun to say, Yay Beer!!.. and move on, know what I mean:slight_smile:
     
  15. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    First off, I was talking beer vs. Gatorade in that post, not beer vs. water. To address the overall issue, your statement may be true for nonalcoholic beer or very low ABV beers (<4%). Any more and the alcohol starts to dehydrate the body through anti-diuretic hormone inhibition. I posted a link to a study on the NIH website that dealt with this same issue - it's worth reading.
     
  16. BeerLoversInternational

    BeerLoversInternational Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2013 Germany

    True, true. I'll look that article up... Thanks.
     
  17. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
    Pooh-Bah

    Vindicated by so-called science, you mean :wink:
     
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  18. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    So-called habits vindicated by so-called science so long as you drink so-called beer with low ABV.

    Sounds like a win.
     
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  19. alysmith4

    alysmith4 Pooh-Bah (1,738) Feb 11, 2005 District of Columbia
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    So-called.
     
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  20. Absolut

    Absolut Maven (1,353) Sep 19, 2011 California

    i'm not reading the article. afraid they will define "after a workout" as being too short of a time period for my liking. I worked out yesterday- I am going to have my beer today (no need to point out my beer consumption yesterday either).
     
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